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Go to brilliant.org/... to sign up for free. And also, the first 200 people will get 20% off their annual premium membership.... Remember the days when you had to define a separate music card and sound card for DOS games? When your mate's Wavetable Soundblaster AWE32 was the bees knees? When you had a vast collection of .MID files to listen to? Ahhh, the days of MIDI. What happened to those days? Where did FM Synth and Wavetable cards disappear to? Let's delve in.
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@Nostalgianerd 4 года назад

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@Choralone422 4 года назад

That's pretty cool. Shame there's only about a dozen selections there.

@Dimondminer11 4 года назад

Aaaaah so you ALSO own a Sapphire R9 Fury. It seems like that specific variant is everywhere these days. I picked mine up off ebay for just $101 USD.

@Richie016 4 года назад

Awesome legacy PCs for music production! MIDI 🎹configs for previous windows versions🎖

@Foebane72 4 года назад

No mention of tracker formats like SoundTracker / NoiseTracker / Protracker or anything like that? MIDI SUCKED in comparison with those formats, because at least they carried the instruments as intended by the creators. I personally think that MOD / IT / S3M / XM are the best formats for music ever made, before CD and MP3, perhaps. Fuck MIDI.

@Foebane72 4 года назад

And what's so fucking good about Creative? I used their app called WaveStudio many years ago and I was shocked at how crap it was. Every time I zoomed in or out, the selected area would wander, and caused many unwanted audio artefacts! Actually, if I remember correctly, everyone said that whilst Creative hardware was fine, their software SUCKED.

@WarrenPostma 3 года назад

Non musician: What happened to midi? Musician: Nothing.

@PendelSteven 3 года назад

See my comments. In fact, we've been using it more and more.

@WarrenPostma 3 года назад

@@hamishfox You got anything better to do than hang out online and be a Chad, Hamish?

@5izzy557 3 года назад

I was looking for this comment.

@thethrashyone 3 года назад

Exactly what I was thinking, I use MIDI all the time. It's just that the songs that come out of it don't all sound like primitive Microsoft GS Synth Wavetable tunes ( _a la_ RuneScape) anymore.

@JC20XX 3 года назад

Not a lot for a while. But now polyphonic expression (MPE) is gaining traction.

@talideon 4 года назад

MIDI never went away: it just went back to where it started, which is professional sound synthesis devices.

@shadowflash705 4 года назад

Keith Gaughan I can still play mid files on both my windows and linux machines. Even better on the latter with 10Gb sample bank. Also there's no problem connecting actual synthesizer or midi keyboard to PC either. The reason why last games that used actual midi standard were released in late 2000s, mostly for the arcades and just a few for actual PCs is simple. Huge game sizes made 70-500Mb of digital audio with music recorded using professional hardware which will play the same on every PC is more preferable. For small games programming a dedicated software synth is also preferable to the actual chip. You can't make dedicated high quality wavetable + FM synth cheap. And quality of 90s hardware can't be accepted by most people.

@Chaosbar 4 года назад

As of this day, the 5-pin DIN 31.25 Kb/s serial connection remains standard on the vast majority of devices supporting MIDI. Look at just about any modern instrument or controller, and it'll be right there sitting on the back (very occasionally in the form of a space saving 3.5 mm TRS connector, and even more rarely, only via class compliant USB interface).

@KuraIthys 4 года назад

@@shadowflash705 How do you get around Microsoft's boneheaded decision to remove the midi mapper from windows? Just curious. I haven't been able to get any midi hardware working with Windows 10... Kinda wish I could get my MU-128 working with a PC again, but I haven't had much luck...

@bencharles4459 4 года назад

@Jacob Turnbaugh But... All professional DAWs use MIDI. Everything is based on MIDI, you just don't realise.

@theantipope4354 4 года назад

@Jacob Turnbaugh The fact that you think that Midi affects the sound of the music - it doesn't - when it's just a communications protocol, is what shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

@danpreston564 4 года назад

You know how good Midi is as a protocol? They’ve just announced 2.0 after being on 1.0 since the early 80s.

@JellyFlavoredGerman 3 года назад

Wasn't that a couple of years ago? Still haven't seen it in the wild. Who needs it. 127steps is all I need :D

@danpreston564 3 года назад

@@JellyFlavoredGerman even with midi 1.0 you’ve got NRPNs with 16384 steps. I’ve not seen any 2.0 devices in the wild either. May take a while.

@Persun_McPersonson 3 года назад

@@danpreston564 Yeah, new protocols and such always take a long time to be widely adopted. USB type-C came out in 2014, but is only just starting to actually be adopted.

@doramilitiakatiemelody1875 3 года назад

Im waiting for Midi 3.0

@danpreston564 3 года назад

@@doramilitiakatiemelody1875 see you in 2060!

@melonenstrauch1306 3 года назад

As a musician this feels like saying "What happened to USB?"

@joechristo2 3 года назад

yeah

@legoboy7107 3 года назад

I know right?

@lol-wc3ld 2 года назад

lol

@AlanTherby 4 года назад

One thing you didn't address was the fact that major record labels started suing websites with libraries of midi cover songs. So then we couldn't find midi versions of our favorite songs. That partly killed midi. Just when instruments started sounding more realistic.

@jannejohansson3383 3 года назад

Wow.. that is same thing that someone start suing sheet music books. There was no technicly any bit their music.

@AlexandreLopsz 3 года назад

@@jannejohansson3383 but they do sue non authorized sheet music songbooks

@phuturephunk Год назад

@@AlexandreLopsz If there's one thing that's as sure as the Sun rising in the East each morning it's that the RIAA and MPAA will sue for literally any new emerging tech until they get the point across that they will sue anything that moves that has to do with either music or cinema/tv and unauthorized reproduction.

@hooch1981 Год назад

@@AlexandreLopsz yeah. Back in the day a lot of guitar tab websites went down as well, for the same reason.

@countzero1136 Год назад

@@phuturephunk Yeah like that ever worked out for them...

@SyntheticFuture 4 года назад

*every music producer* "What do you mean... I use it every day...."

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 4 года назад

YEP. That was my immediate reaction. "It... Went away?!"

@Floyd1138 4 года назад

yip, midi files are alive and being used in 2020

@lucaskhlck 4 года назад

I came here to write this

@BlaBla-pf8mf 4 года назад

2:20

@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 4 года назад

@Lava Croft I know, it was just my knee jerk reaction

@KevSmithMusic 3 года назад

MIDI is still heavily used in music production, and I love it.

@raven4k998 Год назад

just not pc's anymore😭

@zaholykrusedar1459 Год назад

@@raven4k998 nah it still be used man, mostly to edit your own music track like remix it or sort like that

@countzero1136 Год назад

@@raven4k998 Using MIDI on modern PC hardware is as easy as installing one of the many DAW packages and a GM Soundfont. Maybe a bit of overkill if you just want to play .mid files (which are still out there and easily found with a google search) but very powerful and many, such as LMMS are totally free and open source. LMMS was originally developed for Linux but Windows versions are available and work on the latest versions of Windows without issues. Of course if you have even the slightest interest in actually making your own music, then chances are that you already have a similar setup :)

@pathagas 4 года назад

as a music producer, MIDI is incredibly important. it’s basically the backbone of everything i do. not just interfacing between pianos and my digital audio workstation. it’s how i write each note in music and how all of my virtual instruments know what, when, how loud, and how to play. for almost every electronic music producers, MIDI is never going away.

@xotmatrix 4 года назад

NN: "My Atari ST..." That's a pretty humble way to describe an actual fucking Atari Falcon 030. I would never stop bragging about having one of those.

@ianstahl8579 4 года назад

This is a very misleading title... MIDI never went anywhere - average consumers just stopped having direct contact with it. It's a pet peeve of mine that people associate MIDI with low grade consumer sound cards and cheap synthetic sounds when midi actually has no sound. If you're using notation software, there's probably midi standards being utilised. If you're working with soft synths, there's midi being utilised. I use midi to control my guitar effects and I've used it as well to manipulate video in real time. The video is interesting but it perpetuates this false association people have with the word MIDI.

@ianstahl8579 4 года назад

@@lucidattf Yeah, you're right. He did address the points mentioned in the video. Like I said the video is interesting - I think it's informative and well done. What annoys me is the association most people have between "midi" i.e. .mid files and how they sound when played back by a cheap sound card. I guess because the focus is on consumers it's easy to read this interpretation out of the title of the video.

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад

I actually use it in both ways. For notation/daw use and to listen to it. The first sounds I made were in some crappy MIDI piano roll tool. By now I'm pretty close to reading those piano rolls like people read notation sheets. It really helps being able to "see" sound.

@sepg5084 4 года назад

MIDI went somewhere: it went out of mainstream.

@calebfuller4713 3 года назад

@@ianstahl8579 Yeah - I think most people don't realize that MIDI is the electronic equivalent of a piece of classically notated sheet music, and likewise is still in use by musicians. It has all the instructions for HOW the music should be played, but no control over WHAT the instrument it's played on sounds like. So just as a Mozart Piano Concerto could be played on a Steinway grand piano, or a cheap Casio keyboard, so a MIDI track could control ANY instrument from a professional hardware synth to a cheap, nasty soundchip on a 90s soundcard.

@calebfuller4713 3 года назад

@@HappyBeezerStudios A lot of DAWS will show classical notation too, but to me it's hard to read, while the piano roll - yes, I can understand it easily too, and find it easy to compose in.

@ryujijitei 4 года назад

As a composer, MIDI is still extremely valuable for quickly workshopping ideas. But yes, I do miss the sound of it as well, it's sad that there's such a stigma around the format nowadays.

@Bagofnowt 4 года назад

Stigma around the format is just bullshit, any complaints about it can be addressed to my hole. The whole thing with electronic music is the sound design above all else really, and with the quality of samples you can get these days, most orchestral stuff on TV these days are cues recorded with sampled instruments. MIDI is just super versatile, one of the only things in music tech that isn't massively complex

@Nostalgianerd 4 года назад

Absolutely. This video is very firmly from a general user perspective.

@YoshiLightStar 4 года назад

The windows built in GS softsynth is horrible due to sound quality and lacking samples now due to that a lot of people believe that midi "sounds" like that despite the fact the midi doesn't have a sound and that its just playback data

@Gamez4eveR 4 года назад

There's stigma around MIDI? One of the cornerstones of digital music production??

@nigelrhodes4330 4 года назад

I picked up an Akai S1100 the other week, for me midi is still very much alive :) .

@Dronian 4 года назад

Who here felt like MOD files were left out?

@DLWormwood 4 года назад

Yup, he should have mentioned MODs as a point of comparison when he was discussing wavetable vs FM, as MODs store sample data while MIDI normally doesn't

@zaxxon4 4 года назад

I expected it when he mentioned the Amiga after the Atari ST.

@JimmiG84 4 года назад

Mod files were mostly an Amiga thing. By the time PC soundcards widely supported the playback of multiple PCM channels (required for MODs) in the mid 90s, CD-audio had pretty much taken over, followed by MP3 when CPUs got powerful enough. However there are some examples of Mod music on the PC, like Unreal and Unreal Tournament which used the Mod format to pack a large number of music tracks into a small amount of space. With only CD-audio, those soundtracks wouldn't have been as varied and dynamic.

@Nostalgianerd 4 года назад

MODs were very Amiga, or used by actual composers. This is much more focused on the IBM-PC Compatible.

@MikaelLevoniemi 4 года назад

@@JimmiG84 4 PCM channels was quite enough for mod music in games and the first ever sound blaster supported 8. MODs were not used because it was new technology not used by established composers at that time. Today, software sequencers are used everywhere. In effect MOD didn't go away at all, because those methods have grown up and are used by everybody today, even if they are not fully aware of it. Software like Cubase, FL-Studio, Renoise and many others used by composers have a sample sequencer as their beating heart. One of the best examples in mod music in games was star control 2 and its soundtrack still kicks ass.

@millennialchicken 4 года назад

Dad: ''Son, what's a midi file?'' Son: ''I'll show you.'' **Sad Cena noises**

@LilPolemistisXL 4 года назад

SHUT UP CAT I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO JOHN CENA!

@poble 4 года назад

"felix, have you been fucking with my piano?"

@pjlgaming860 4 года назад

Oddly enough for some reason, my mind played what I remember of Orbital's 'Satan' after reading that comment. (I mean the original comment, not the replies).

@SleepyRaccoon 4 года назад

Joel you little piss child

@Eyetrauma 4 года назад

Millennial Chicken I hate that I read this and heard his voice (who am I kidding I love it)

@PNW_Marxist 4 года назад

MIDI was how I was introduced to video game music back in the 90s. Being able to find MIDI versions of all my favorite Final Fantasy tunes was kind of mindblowing as high schooler.

@mresturk9336 3 года назад

I remember having some pretty darn accurate midi recreations of the FF4 soundtrack. Technically I still have them buried somewhere on my harddrive, but last I checked modern PC midi support makes them sound like rubbish.

@JacobWrecker Год назад

Same! Now I'm a musician after starting out by writing songs in MIDI.

@SlyHikari03 Год назад

Same. VGMusic and Fl Studio was the reason I started with music production. As well as Animusic.

@GALuigi 4 года назад

That first MIDI version of "Beat It" was FIRE!!! 🔥

@snazzymcnazmy 4 года назад

"What happened to midi?" *looks at all my DAWs*

@NathanChisholm041 4 года назад

Same i have over 13,000 high end midi files from artist like Testo Armin Van Burren BT ect

@100thschool 4 года назад

@@NathanChisholm041 "high end midi files" wut it's literally data

@pwabd2784 4 года назад

@@100thschool premium 0's and 1's

@100thschool 4 года назад

@@pwabd2784 reminds me of those memes from edmcirclejerk on reddit about midi chord packs that people actually buy

@pauljs75 4 года назад

I like the demo midi of "Take 5" that came with the General User 1.47 Soundfont Set that I use with LMMS. So it's not like that format has gone away just yet.

@surject 4 года назад

Me in the 90s: "MIDI sucks! Fast and Impulsive Scream Trackers all the way!" Older me switching to DAWs: "Oh..."

@thromboid 4 года назад

Gotta say though, the workflow and UI efficiency of some trackers was unbeatable, especially if you were just programming drum patterns.

@WardenWolf 4 года назад

I still listen to MODs and derivatives.

@aceathor 4 года назад

@@WardenWolf Yeah Ultimate Soundtracker, FastTracker, and MilkyTracker. ect...

@alexthejapanfan7905 4 года назад

@@aceathor And FamiTracker? oh wait, that's The Best Nes/FC Music Maker To Date, And That Get's So Much Better With OCC-FamiTracker And J-OCC-FamiTracker. #MIDI #FAMITRACKER

@Cybornut 4 года назад

@@aceathor Mmmm... the endless hours of trying to get EVER SO CLOSE to replicating AXEL F on my PC was... painful, but brought back memories.

@djukor 4 года назад

"Remember the days when you had to define a separate music card and sound card for DOS games?" Yes i remember and as a kid i hated it. i never realy knew what to pick as many older games didn't have support for my card so i had to guess or try alternate selections. And i didn't have the internet so i had to do everything by experimentation.

@crunchychips8123 4 года назад

Don't forget IRQ conflicts and modifying batch files. If you were really lucky, you'd bring home an upgrade for your PC, and actually get to use it within a week (after your Dad called up his PC expert friend).

@everyonesloopy 4 года назад

or the sound card wasn't supported at all and you had to play the game silently, or hope that your parents would get a supported one for christmas or birthday

@chrismoffa464 4 года назад

I had a pro audio spectrum 16 and went through that. Limited native support. Had built in SB 8-bit support though.

@shawa666 4 года назад

When in doubt, Sound Blaster.

@pelgervampireduck 4 года назад

most common was sound blaster 220 irq5 or 7, dma 1. I miss those days. I never had problems with that, ISA sound blaster cards were the most compatible, they worked with everything both in DOS and windows.

@adamb89 3 года назад

Sort of bridging the gap between MID and MP3 files there were also four-track MOD files, and other variants like .XM which included more than 4 tracks. Similar to MID files in that they included a set of instructions on how to play instruments, these also included their own instrument samples. This allowed the song to sound the same on any machine they played on, while still not chewing up anywhere near as much storage as MP3. Even with just four tracks though (two left, two right), you could get some pretty detailed songs because while you could only have four sounds playing at any one time, you could swap out which sample was selected. So if you have a hi-hat, snare, and bass drum sounds but only one is ever being played at one given time, just dedicate one channel to percussion and switch back and forth between them, leaving you with 3 channels for other instruments.

@Roxor128 2 месяца назад

Mixing samples is actually pretty demanding. One of the selling points for the Gravis Ultrasound was that you could offload that work to the card, and it would not only mix the samples, but would also do interpolation as well. Just tried an experiment in DOSBox. Loaded up a 28-channel XM file in Cubic Player v1.7. Here's the results for cycles settings needed to play it without breaking up: GUS: Never breaks up, but plays slow below about 1500-2000 cycles Software mixer: Needs about 10000 cycles for no interpolation, about 18000 with interpolation High-quality software mixer: Needs about 35000 cycles without interpolation, 45000 with interpolation The slow playback on the GUS is clearly due to the playback program not being able to feed the card quickly enough when the emulated CPU is set so slow. If we call 2000 cycles the benchmark for just feeding the card commands quickly enough, then software mixing needs at least 5 times the processing power, and the GUS could be considered to be analogous to having a second CPU that's around 10-20 times faster and dedicated to just mixing audio.

@barkmonster 2 месяца назад

@@Roxor128 Soundtracker software ran on 8Mhz 68000 CPUs on Atari ST and Comodore Amigas with 8 bit samples using as little as 512K. I had an 8 bit stereo master sample cartridge that could record samples up to 50kHz and used it with a 4 track sound tracker called audio sculpture and because I had the 1040 STE, that could handle 8 channels on another tracker called octalyser too. The essay wasn't necessary or remotely relevant to the system requirements of running trackers. Even ones for the Mac or Atari falcon that could use CD quality 16 bit samples and more than just 8 tracks that came later.

@Roxor128 2 месяца назад

@@barkmonster Recording and playback is not mixing. You can just dump samples to any sound card and play something. The early 4-channel trackers for the Amiga did just that. The Amiga's sound chip could play 4 simultaneous sets of samples at 4 different sample-rates. All the early trackers had to do was throw sample-data at the chip. No mixing required. In the PC space, sound cards were and are mostly dumb. You play one stream at a time. If you want anything more, you have to mix, and if what you're mixing isn't at the rate you're outputting, you have to convert it as well, and that's the demanding part: the sample-rate conversion. More channels to mix and convert, more CPU usage. Which is why most DOS games have an option in their setup program to let you pick how many channels to mix and what rate to do it at, so you don't eat up too much of your CPU with just the sound.

@tsm688 2 месяца назад

@@Roxor128 An 80286 was good enough to mix samples at 22khz or so. That's like 1 MIPS. So not that demanding in modern terms

@pakiucs151 4 года назад

Midi music is not gone, just evolved to impossible: Black Midis

@partitionhlep 3 года назад

true, kinda

@Gibusnipu 3 года назад

Also the music of master boot record

@zaholykrusedar1459 Год назад

Especially bad piggies, that black midi version is trully beautiful

@allluckyseven 4 года назад

"It sounds pretty decent!" I see what you did there. Also, I'd like to know what happened to MOD files.

@morsine 4 года назад

Generally It's being used in cracks

@charlie_nolan 4 года назад

MODs had less parameters for notes than MIDI and were less compact, so they died out as an inferior format. Also, they weren’t entirely standardized and weren’t supported by large corporations unlike MIDI.

@roflmagister5 4 года назад

@Luke schismtracker is today's Impulse Tracker.

@Ford.Prefect 4 года назад

modarchive.org/ You can always listen to your favourite MODs (and other tracker formats) there. For a short time travel to the past, this is my go to site.

@GeirEivindMork 4 года назад

mp3 (and other formats) happened. mod in any form is redundant when you got that.

@QuizzingHobbit 4 года назад

Anyone else notice that he's not running Windows 3.1? He's running Windows for Workgroups 3.11.

@tuz100 4 года назад

Better networking functionality at the time.

@gabormiklay9209 4 года назад

@@tuz100 Can you believe this: in Hungary, Win3.11 Hun version was flawed and didn't worked normally. It wasn't obvious what is the problem, so after installed it at a company with at least 15 computers, we had phone calls the next day, that some users have this and that problem. Going to the company, to correct the problems, after 2 hours we were perplexed about the situation. There wasn't one obvious problem, but overall the whole system was just unreliable (15 computers). It was so embarrassing after 2 days of troubleshooting, and thinking every 2 hours we solved it, something come up again and again. On the 3rd day, running out of ideas, my colleague told me to try to install the English version of the software. And magically, all our problems solved. The only problem was: the company bought Win 3.11 Hun from Microsoft (paying for software in 1994 in Hungary wasn't obvious). And they had to use Win 3.11 Eng, which were basically pirated versions. And also we had 4 extra workdays for 2 people (2 for trying to troubleshoot, and 2 for reinstalling the Win 3.11 Eng version).

@girhen 4 года назад

Piccolo: NEERRRRRRRRRRRRD!

@grasstails9737 4 года назад

how we supposed to tell between Windows 3.10 and 3.11?!

@LoPhatKao 4 года назад

@@grasstails9737 0:16 WfW splash screen

@Froobyone 4 года назад

As an electronic musician, MIDI has been the entire backbone of my life. But, there was no thrill greater than when I hooked up my Atari ST to an MT-32 and played Space Quest III. My two worlds collided. Nice to see MIDI getting some love.

@0ne01 2 года назад

Messing with the MIDI stuff for games and downloading MIDI songs is what lead me down the path to electronic music. That and Skinny Puppy.

@SoundBlaster1998 4 года назад

MIDI is like magic, not everyone likes it but it has some sort of special thing to it. I still love listening to my MIDIs everyday and also play a bit on my Roland VA-7 synth, listening to how Doom MIDIs sound, making my own music, it's just fantastic. Gotta love the 90's and the innovation it brought to us.

@amogus7 3 года назад

2:50 "Usually with these 5-pin dim connectors" MIDI over USB: ooh okay.

@KSPAtlas 3 года назад

I have a keyboard (music kind) and I use MIDI over USB

@KSPAtlas 3 года назад

Hello me

@Kimmobiino 3 года назад

I thought it was DIN as in 70's connection standard..

@armyofninjas9055 3 года назад

5 pin is better.

@PendelSteven 3 года назад

We have MIDI over 1/8" jackplugs now. Especially in guitareffectpedals.

@neversleeps1 4 года назад

The title should read General midi.. I use midi pretty much every day

@100thschool 4 года назад

yea wtf. imagine modern pop music without midi triggering samples. this video is really bad, i thought nostalgia nerd was credible, but this feels like shіtpost

@WarDimensionOfficial 4 года назад

@@100thschool that's why the channel called nostalgia nerd, not modern every day life nerd...

@Acorn_Anomaly 4 года назад

@@100thschool The video's fine, but "What Happened to MIDI(in PC gaming*)? *This clarification added to satisfy pedants who don't get the point" wouldn't fit in the title. FFS, he even says in the video multiple times that musicians still use it.

@darkcoeficient 4 года назад

@@Acorn_Anomaly thank you

@DarwinsChihuahua 4 года назад

LOL, "Sounds pretty decent. (plays Descent)"

@crypticzen9194 4 года назад

It was the first video game I ever played. I was about 5 or 6 years of age. Good memory’s using my after burner, cruising around killing stuff.

@LizzardXYZ 4 года назад

I've kept a large library of midis on my phones SD card for years and using them as ring tones and alarms. My wake up alarm has been the System Shock intro cinematic song. It works really well for a wake up alarm.

@Krobar 4 года назад

Those few seconds of testing the Descent music just brought back a wave of memories....

@finkelmana 4 года назад

I miss the 90s. You laugh at your friend still using a PC speaker, when you have a Sound Blaster. Then you hate your other friend with his Roland MT32.... Also, all the MMA members agreed on the MIDI 2 standard... Can you imagine if all those mixed martial artists disagreed?

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад

Hah, got a player for DOS that can output actual PCM audio through the PC speaker. Sucks if you're stuck with one of the buzzers they use nowadays, but with a decent actual "speaker" ...... well it still sounds bad, but you can actually make out what is happening instead of emulated static.

@danielkeller6610 2 месяца назад

I see what you did there

@Phunker1 4 года назад

I was just gonna say. Midi is very much alive and kickin'.

@psychowsky 4 года назад

Indeed... At least professionals still use it...

@l1ghtd3m0n3 4 года назад

Phunker1 It’s still the form of choice for remixes.

@TheRealWinsletFan 4 года назад

I'm using it every day!

@smartl4d 4 года назад

TheRealWinsletFan same!

@Yakez42 4 года назад

@@psychowsky and bunch of amateur musicians as well from MIDI keyboards just to play on your shiny iPad synth or to control instrument processors, from guitars to vocals and everything in between.

@alubto 4 года назад

Almost every song you hear from Spotify uses MIDI in it's production. MIDI just went back to be used for what it was intended to be. MIDI 2.0 is a great news for music producers, doesn't really matter for end users.

@MLennholm 4 года назад

Nah, almost every song I listen to on Spotify (or elsewhere for that matter) was produced in the 60s or 70s, so...

@melkiorwiseman5234 4 года назад

Does MIDI 2.0 fix the "not enough note velocities" problem?

@olympicmew 4 года назад

@@melkiorwiseman5234 yes

@huleyn135 4 года назад

@@MLennholm cool, nobody cares. you're not special.

@MLennholm 4 года назад

huleyn135 Ooh, so edgy! Sounds like I hit a nerve there :)

@thedrunkmonkshow 4 года назад

When I was a teenager in the 90's and we got our first computer which was the IBM Aptiva, one of the first programs that truly fascinated me was a Windows MIDI Composition program that came pre-installed with the computer's software suite. Not only could I create my own songs by clicking in the notes to a digital score sheet with 16 tracks, but I could load up other compositions either from certain video games or from other composers sharing their MIDI songs on places like AOL or Geocities where I could listen and visually analyze the tricks and techniques they used to pull off particular sounds. MIDI was the initial building block that kick started my journey into music production and full blown audio engineering that I still do up to this day. I also appreciate websites like vgmusic.com for still hosting and maintaining it's massive archive of MIDI video game cover songs including many that are still there that I submitted as a kid. This episode was nostalgic indeed so thank you for this! 😇

@sixstringedthing 4 года назад

I remember playing with that MIDI scoring program too, I believe it was part of the early SoundBlaster software suite (along with the classic "Dr. Sbaitso" speech synthesis program) but it wasn't included with every card.

@thedrunkmonkshow 4 года назад

@@sixstringedthing Dude now I remember completely from your comment and thanks so much for taking the time lol! Back in the day I used a Windows 3.11 program called Midisoft Recording Session and that IBM Aptiva had a generic SoundBlaster suite but yeah it lacked the voice synthesis program. Either way I enjoyed the hell out of that setup when I was younger 😃

@sixstringedthing 4 года назад

@@thedrunkmonkshow You're welcome mate, the nostalgia trip is nice. :) The time period we're talking about is 30-odd years ago for me (and about the same for you, from your original comment) and I'd pretty much forgotten about these early experiments with digital production. The father of a school friend of mine was the very definition of "early adopter", he had all the coolest toys and appreciated my passion for music (which his son lacked). I remember being absolutely blown away at what we could do with his Yamaha SY87 synth, Roland MT32 and Cakewalk software. This has been a cool little trip down Memory Lane, cheers!

@mixmashandtinker3266 4 года назад

sixstringedthing Oooohh! Cavewalk 4!!! I miss it!

@thedrunkmonkshow 4 года назад

@@mixmashandtinker3266 Real talk! :)

@leonkernan 4 года назад

I never heard it called A W E, it was always awe, as in shock and awe, when I heard it.

@Tahngarthor 4 года назад

"what happened to MIDI?" It still exists today, it just isn't really used for games anymore.

@TheTurnipKing 4 года назад

More accurately, it's not a core part of the functionality included in most PC sound devices anymore.

@Tahngarthor 4 года назад

@@TheTurnipKing I mean that's not really more accurate, as all PCs today can generally still do midi. and if you do music synth, you're probably connecting all that hardware up to a PC at some point.

@TheTurnipKing 4 года назад

@@Tahngarthor it's not really built in, nor is it a standard feature though, requiring at least a usb adaptor in most cases. There's no hardware synth chip.

@Tahngarthor 4 года назад

@@TheTurnipKing It still is, just google canyon.mid, any modern PC can still play it. Even if your sound device doesn't have hardware for it, it's trivial to do in software for today's PCs. (Admittedly canyon.mid actually sounds pretty awful on my sound device)

@TheTurnipKing 4 года назад

@@Tahngarthor yep, but that's kind of the point, it's all software emulation fallback. I think 64bit XP is about the cutoff at which there was basically zero point of their being any actual hardware support for it, because at that point you can't even run most 16/32bit games that expected native hardware support without a software emulation layer. I think the licenced software synth may still be in there as part of direct music, but I can't even find the feature test in dxdiag anymore. Otherwise it's a bit like saying Win 10 is compatible with DOS because you can run dosbox

@ramdom_assortment 4 года назад

"I miss MIDI." Me: Goes and installs OGG remasters of MIDI soundtracks for DOS and Windows 3.1 games.

@cones914 3 года назад

You dont install .ogg files you download them.

@ramdom_assortment 3 года назад

@@cones914 I don't remember making this comment.

@jaysistar2711 4 года назад

You should really check out the Mod Archive and Nectarine: Demo Scene Radio.

@TugAndThugComputing 4 года назад

Canyon.mid and passport is the best ever

@adventureoflinkmk2 4 года назад

@jorcyd 4 года назад

It simply scream "90s"

@DynamixWarePro 4 года назад

Also OneStop.mid

@TugAndThugComputing 4 года назад

@@DynamixWarePro oh yes that sounds epic

@Henk717 4 года назад

Search for the Jazz Castle midi conversion from Jazz Jackrabbit 2, that one is midi gold!

@astrahcat1212 3 года назад

Composer here of 20 years. My process is to use a GM MIDI keyboard to make MIDI files, then I work with my orchestrator/arranger friend to "mp3/wav/ogg" the MIDI file using samples. I know the inner workings of my sample libraries enough to edit all the CC data blind, including dragging the notes forward the right amount per sample library. I don't think people realize to this day how incredibly AMAZING gm midi actually is. I can make full compositions in record time, and these days running them through samples (if you know what you're doing) you can make the final result sound very believable. MIDI files are insanely convenient because you can make different arrangements out of a single MIDI file and often times they average out around 20KB in size. I would check out the sample libraries like RealGuitar, Cinematic Studio Strings, Emberton Joshua Bell Violin, and especially SWAM instruments. You'll be blown away and often ask your see elf why you'd ever go through the trouble of hiring a musician.

@blacknapalm2131 3 года назад

13:27 The *iMuse Engine* soundtrack for 'Tie Fighter' might still be my favorite of all time. It really DID what it was intended to do which was to make the entire experience more IMMERSIVE.

@cericat 3 года назад

That was always the point of iMUSE, as a design it was what brought Lucasarts games to life since Monkey Island 2 (precisely because the composer was unhappy with the limitations of basic playback he'd contended with in the first) allowing for transitions that were seamless. Quite an audacious bit of software design for the time, and just not readily possible with prerecorded tracks unlike MIDI which could be controlled as the design team required. Love or hate Lucas' studio releases across media they had some of the best audio experiences consistently.

@markcummings150 4 года назад

“Sounds pretty decent”. Cue “Descent” game. I see what you did there.

@BrucesWorldofStuff 4 года назад

Loved that game but it made me sick after a while because of the vertigo effect it gave me... :) Nice catch I did not catch it! LLAP

@Vostok7 4 года назад

Every piece of music Descent ever inspired is incredible, both the MIDI and Redbook CD audio.

@CakePrincessCelestia 4 года назад

@@BrucesWorldofStuff You literally had motion sickness before it was cool. Just like my brother how couldn't play Ultima Underworld for the same reason.

@BrucesWorldofStuff 4 года назад

@@CakePrincessCelestia Yep I had issues with that too along with Microsoft flight simulator. Did not have any problems with Duke Nukem or Doom! Lol LLAP

@Oddasatan 4 года назад

Still use Midi in Cubase all the time, alive and kicking as ever. Perhaps midi-tracks or midi-music is what you are missing? Awesome topic tho!

@100thschool 4 года назад

well, you can still release in .mid in fact it's very convenient to do so as you dont need to worry about the mix or all nasty things audio brings like samplerates and bit depths

@johnandnoah 4 года назад

You will never go to an obscure Geocities website and have a poorly made MIDI blow out your ear drums ever again.

@RBSVader 4 года назад

Yep, they just will pour video ad at you. And your ears.

@Kattywampus 4 года назад

Poorly made MIDI, or crappy ass soundcard?

@UrsaFrank 4 года назад

Thats more a product of the time not the format. Websites are still fully capable of playing audio files and music at any volume, they just choose not to do so because they dont want to drive users away (most of the time)

@Feelthefelt 4 года назад

Remember "Justin's High Q Midis"

@Infernape7890 4 года назад

Neocities.

@99Vood99 4 года назад

The jump from the crappy SoundBLaster 16 clones to an AWE64 was incredible. It legitimately felt like you were playing a new game.

@KennethDPedersen 3 года назад

I remember the music wars of the 1980’s, I served under General MIDI.

@Robert08010 2 месяца назад

Unfortunately nobody is keeping SCORE! LOL.

@MrFairhill 4 года назад

A middle ground between midi and cd auto are mod files. FastTracker, ImpulseTracker and the like. Deus Ex, Unreal Tournament and Death Rally used those files for game music. Deus Ex also used sequencing to play a specific part of the mod file depending on what happened in-game.

@compmanio36 4 года назад

I remember getting Winamp plugins to play .MOD and other such middle ground formats before everybody just used MP3 or CD audio in their games.

@seraphina985 4 года назад

Pretty sure there are more modern formats even post XML ones that work similarly to the likes of SVG and Collada but for audio instead of 2D and 3D graphics can't think what they are off the top of my head though but they do exist in specialist applications.

@OutlawMantis 4 года назад

I used to enjoy finding game music in these formats waaaay back. Particularly, Final Fantasy music from SNES and PS1 sounding almost identical to the console or OST, crystal clear at a small file size. It sure beat waiting up to an hour to download crappy 128kbps MP3 albums. (That takes a second for me now. Crazy how far we've come.)

@seraphina985 4 года назад

@@OutlawMantis True enough though as much as it feels almost a given these days does sometimes still hit me usually when installing a game on steam and the ETA is up in the new long ass download territory of minutes. Then it hits you how utterly crazy it sounds that minutes feels long for a download but it is easily 10's of GB dose of first world problem cold water there lol.

@noop9k 4 года назад

@@OutlawMantis PC port of FF7 had sound fonts for AWE32 cards that made its MIDI music sound exactly as on the Playstation, if not better. With voices and all.

@KowboyUSA 4 года назад

One of the best things about 90s computing was MIDI music.

@tinyguy9398 4 года назад

14:30 - and that my friends is the Windows 95 Weezer file. Let the nostalgia commence!

@gamophyte 4 года назад

For me it's filter's Nice Shot man

@WR3ND 4 года назад

Yeah. Good times when I found it on the CD installing Windows 95 on my work PCs.

@TV4Fun2 4 года назад

@@WR3ND good times and bad times.

@slob12 4 года назад

@@TV4Fun2 yeah loved that too...hell got to look that up again now and weezer have always been a great band

@Tall_Order 3 года назад

These days the only way I can enjoy midis on a modern PC is VirtualMidiSynth and various downloaded soundfonts. I like a soundfont called Arachno. I use it when I play games in dosbox. It makes the music sound great IMO.

@shawno66 4 года назад

Nothing. I use it every day, just like I have since the mid 1980's.

@KingCanadane 4 года назад

The fact vgmusic is still up and running and looks exactly like it did 20+ years ago was great.

@RodBeauvex 4 года назад

Except for the fact the fact that they switched to HTTPS, so now I can't brows with the old windows 95 machine. :p

@streeterville773 4 года назад

Brings back memories of connecting through AOL and downloading midis on 56k lol

@happysmash27 4 года назад

I was surprised when I pasted "vgmusic" into my URL bar and apparently I have already been to the site at some point. Apparently I was looking there on March 27th? Maybe it was related to the video game sprite site I was browsing.

@KRAFTWERK2K6 4 года назад

A moment of appreciation for this glorious site.

@neoasura 4 года назад

I still love midi music. I always make a visit to vgmusic every now and then and listen to game midi. Been going to that site since 1997.

@Cuzjudd 4 года назад

Epico

@adrianozambranamarchetti2187 4 года назад

Never though I'd be able to post this, but I made a lil script to download all of vgmusic's midis, and the collection is now a sacred possession of my hard drive.

@jeremym9011 4 года назад

@@adrianozambranamarchetti2187 Interesting! However, the only problem with that site is that they ONLY do MIDIs of the famous games.

@artsyomni 4 года назад

Jeremy M that and since the midi files on the site are often transcriptions by fans, they’re not always accurate

@AcornElectron 4 года назад

Aw, remember that weird point before smartphones where mobile phones could play polyphonic then midi but not MP3..... And I had an Amiga so I just used soundtracker. Not exactly comparable but it was useful for popping tunes into rsi.

@Dknob 4 года назад

Ah, that's when all the carriers had a ringtone store. There was an article I read a while back interviewing ring tone composers from back then. It also discussed how licensing the music worked and how profitable it was. Good read. I still have my 99 Red Balloons ringtone, lol.

@JoeStuffz 4 года назад

I went to study music again, and Hit Trax actually makes high-quality MIDI files that convert well to sheet music. They also sound fantastic

@homebody0089 4 года назад

Hearing the first few bars of 'At Doom's Gate' gave me nostalgia chills. It sounds exactly as I remembered it did back when I first played it in 95 on our familie's first home computer. Thank you for this and all of the videos you do that keep computer history alive. Have a great week!

@UltimatePerfection 4 года назад

To be fair, midi is still being used by musicians due to its simplicity, it's just that they import these to the DAWs they're working with (usually FL Studio or Reason) and replace standard midi instruments with something of much better quality or some sounds that isn't even in the General MIDI to begin with. Also there are programs designed to make MIDI music specifically, such as Anvil Studio.

@Kattywampus 4 года назад

Anvil is still my favorite tool.

@DoomKid 4 года назад

This man knows what he’s talking about. It’s all about DAWs and soundfonts.

@metascrawlmusic 4 года назад

Jagielski Gaming Well, most musicians don’t use MIDI that way. We generally sequence external gear or software instruments using MIDI instructions we generate from scratch within our DAWs, rather than importing MIDI files. Those MIDI tracks are then saved as part of a session along with any audio tracks, and are rarely separately exported as MIDI files. By the way, FL Studio is maybe the most common DAW, but Reason is way down the list, behind Ableton Live, Cubase, Pro Tools and even Garage Band. Cool program though.

@tfksworldoflinux 4 года назад

MIDI is still quite big on Linux. MuseScore for notation, QJackCtl to manage devices and even the possibility to use a kernel optimized for audio production.

@toniokroger1051 4 года назад

Wish I had something as good as Fluidsynth sf bank when I was using SB Live and Audigy in Win 98 and XP. :-D

@tfksworldoflinux 4 года назад

@@toniokroger1051 Oh wow! That takes me back! I still have a SB Live lying around. Kinda want to build up a PC as in the video now...

@toniokroger1051 4 года назад

@@tfksworldoflinux LOL, I still use M Audio 2496! It was hard to find a mb with pci support last year, when I bought a new Ryzen computer. But I did. And Mageia 7 comes with Envy mixer too! Greetings from Serbia!

@tfksworldoflinux 4 года назад

@@toniokroger1051 I'm familiar with M-Audio. My dad is into this. He has several devices. A sound device, mixer device and a small keyboard. I had to set everything up for him with QJackCtl as a base, he uses Linux too, that's why I remember. Cheers!

@tfksworldoflinux 4 года назад

@Marti van Lin Great suggestions! Yes, the development is still very strong in this field. This is one area where Linux really shines.

@kemi242 4 года назад

MIDI didn't disappear at all. It is no longer used in games, but it's a well established standard for connecting electronic musical instruments to computers, and as such it is still used by professional musicians.

@FyberOptic 4 года назад

MIDI is one of those things where if you were a kid and all you had was a MIDI sound card, you had that honeymoon period where it was cool, but then you hated not having a proper Sound Blaster, sometimes even the PC speaker sounded better. I have a better appreciation for it nowadays, and do recall my brother using it to connect his music keyboard to his PC.

@joncarter3761 4 года назад

MIDI still gets used today, me and my friend share notes/harmony/melody ideas with each other using midi files, I'm a Reason user and he's a Fruityloops user and we're both too old and too stubborn to learn new programs! :D

@Pandaxtor 4 года назад

Midi is amazing as a universal save file. 90% of music composer software can import it easily and use midi editor.

@g10118 4 года назад

I don't use those DAWs any more but honestly there's nothing 'wrong' with them. Easy to spend a ton of time (and money) reinventing the wheel and not progressing.

@TheGrelots 4 года назад

@Luke I read somewere that Midi is the oldest digital i/o standard still in use today. Plus it doesn't feel one bit dated.

@user-lt2rw5nr9s 4 года назад

@Luke Just wait for MIDI2. They are planning on expanding MIDI for computer musicians. Finer velocity values among other things.

@FeelingShred 4 года назад

I wonder if there's a program capable of capturing notes you're playing in a real acoustic guitar through a laptop or phone microphone and translate (transcribe) the frequency of notes directly into Midi notes

@cutchyacokov 4 года назад

Small correction. "Container" has a very specific meaning in digital A/V. A container is a file type that can support multiple different audio and/or video formats along with varying metadata. MP3 stands for "MPEG layer 3" and is an audio codec designed for use with MPEG tools and containers. Files with the extension ".mp3" are raw MPEG layer 3 audio data. ID3 tags are technically non-compliant junk data since the file is supposed to be the raw audio stream only but have become widely supported. Since .mp3 shouldn't have them some people consider .mp3 files with ID3 tags to be "ID3 containers."

@AxlePineapple 4 года назад

my original doom experience was with internal PC speaker. oh i love those blips and bloops! but then my music college days were steeped in midi. SO much midi..

@Nostalgianerd 4 года назад

Mine too... and in many respects it's still my favourite way to play it.

@homebody0089 4 года назад

Oh god, I can still hear them! I had an old B&W ThinkPad that had no music capability, but I was able to use the PC speaker to enjoy that game in particular.

@KLiNoTweet 3 года назад

Ah I loved midi too but could never afford a real good soundcard though.

@fllthdcrb 4 года назад

It's remarkable to think that MIDI is almost 40 years old. If you go by when it was dreamed up, it'll reach that age sometime next year; if by when it was standardized, then in about another 3 years.

@Dragoonoar 4 года назад

I love the fact that you can isolate and turn off specific instruments in a .mid file. want to know how to play nothing else matters on the guitar? just mute the other instruments and play along. there are also unique midi players like midijam that shows you the hand position etc. mamplayer that shows intervals, and gsxcc which turns midi files into 8 bit chiptunes

@countzero1136 Год назад

Yeah a very good point there. MIDI files are a great learning tool and great for music practice as well as composition. And yes, MIDI files are still available all over the internet - in fact if anything they're way easier to find online now than they ever were

@wolfieamadeus 4 года назад

MARRY ME! I forgot about the hours I used spend saving my favorite midi tracks 😭😭😭

@ghost.8836 3 года назад

They all went to Vargskelethor Joel's hands.

@cykkm 2 месяца назад

A bit late to the party. There's a lot of confusion here. MIDI was invented by the legendary Dave Smith of Sequential Circuits. The same company that makes Prophet and Oberheim synths, and the same Dave who invented no less legendary Prophet-5 in 1977, the first polyphonic analogue synth with fully digital control and on-board preset memory. Later he wanted to add a capability to control multiple synths from a single controller (hello MIDI Thru!) and external sequencers, and thus MIDI was added to Prophet in 1981. The MMA had been established mainly due to Dave's push for standardising MIDI. The spec 1.0 was composed by investigating and standardizing de facto way different manufacturers adopted MIDI, and finalised by 1985. The _consumer_ simplified General MIDI 1.0 was adopted much later, in the 1990s, for use in home electronic keyboards and computer cards-10 years after the birth of the first professional MIDI hardware. This had been driven by the Japanese home keyboard makers; I don't know if computer sound companies were on board from day one, or simply took it as it was. GM defined 16 groups of instruments (Piano, Organ, Strings, Effects etc), 8 instruments in each, 128 total in a single bank 0 of 128 MIDI presets, with 15 multi-timbral channels; channel 10 was reserved for unpitched percussion, a note per percussion instrument. The goal was to standardise how to make a sound card or home keyboard play the sound, e.g., _most similar to_ the acoustic guitar pluck. Tone and effect controls were dropped from GM; basically, the spec stripped down everything to pitch bend and CCs for volume, pan, mod wheel and foot switch pedal. **This** is what is the most people here are experiencing nostalgia about. GM2 was later adopted some time around 2000, give or take, but I have no idea what had been added to it. So... MIDI 2.0 is right on time. MIDI 1.0 (current spec is v1.1) has been around for 43 years. Now most instruments and controllers speak USB when talking to a computer, but for direct controller-to-instrument connection the 43-year-old 20 mA current loop serial interface is the only option. Dave had a God-given engineering genius.

@mvShooting 4 года назад

I still have a small MID collection. I really like playing them on different older phones so I can hear how their MIDI implementation sounds 😉.

@EberKlaushartinger 4 года назад

The real King of Midi was the AtariST.

@francoisbasquin6974 4 года назад

Agreed! With a Soundpool MO4, providing 4 extra output, I can drive up to 80 individual instruments. For a 35 years old computer, not too bad!

@arnone1862 4 года назад

the REAL king of MIDI is Dave Smith 😉

@itwsntme 4 года назад

This video has really brought back memories. Back then I was an amateur musician and had convinced my dad to get me a couple of pretty good, for the time, keyboards (the musical type). Both supported MIDI and were hooked up to my computer where I made my music, I was also studying computer engineering and had programmed my own sequencer, so I understood MIDI pretty darn well. That eventually landed me a job in Voyetra (but that's another story) I was stoked when Sierra started supporting MIDI in their games. I would route the game music to my keyboards to get better than MT-32 sound. My best one was actually a pro-keyboard, used by bands I listened to at the time. Thing is, my keyboards did not support the general MIDI spec, so I had to create MIDI maps for them. I would actually create custom maps for specific games, to get the absolute best sound I could. My crowning achievement was my map for Kings Quest 7. I actually experienced the game, for the first time with my own map, I would tweak it as I played ensuring each section of the game sounded its absolute best. I was playing the game and being the musical arranger for it. To this day, in my memory, that's how KQ7 sounds. Awesome times.

@calebfuller4713 3 года назад

That's actually really cool! It must have sounded amazing. Now map it to some wobble bass and electro instruments and have Kings Quest - the Dubstep Edition!

@msxwiki 3 года назад

I think most people still confuse MIDI with Midi files and General MIDI. 3 different concepts. Nothing has happened to MIDI. All professional music gear is still equipped with MIDI and it has evolved recently to MIDI 2.0 (although in the real life, everything is still 1.0 and is usually enough for everyone).

@Aeronaut1975 3 года назад

MIDI never went away, ask any music producer, it's still widely used today. How do you think drum programming is done?

@andrasszabo1237 4 года назад

Midi to MP3?! And what about: .MOD, .S3M, .XM? Yes, lived only a few years after midi - before mp3, but it was there. Good old FastTracker II :)))

@deedd4401 4 года назад

an enemy from the impulse tracker camp slowly approaches from the back

@Formedras 4 года назад

But were they prevalent among PC users?

@andrasszabo1237 4 года назад

Among my acquaintances, yes. Thats why I wrote it. Maybe this is also a region related stuff, our PC-s were not fast enough to decode mp3, so if we wanted to listen music on PC, mod/s3m was the way. And there were really good ones, sounds like the real song itself.

@iCraftDay 4 года назад

What is xm? Is it like .mod?

@alexthejapanfan7905 4 года назад

*Laughs in Famitracker (And OCC-Famitracker And J-OCC-FamiTracker.)*

@stephenpointon 4 года назад

i cringe when i think how many time i typed "set blaster 220 etc..." in dos!

@rutgerb 4 года назад

In red alert it was a joy

@TheJamieRamone 4 года назад

Ooo, r we close 2 a documentary on the Amiga MOD format and the demoscene? :D

@JohnyG29 4 года назад

I hope not.

@Nostalgianerd 4 года назад

Mayperhapsbe.

@TheJamieRamone 4 года назад

@@Nostalgianerd LOL!

@poundingpussy 4 года назад

@@Nostalgianerd Come on Mr Nerd, do it. Imagine the hits from a juicy clickbait title like "Jesus on E's".

@HECKproductions 4 года назад

i thought i was the only one who likes the "terrible" midi sound i still listen to midi versions of songs today and i also write that way{like write for real instruments but on midi}

@gelatinous6915 3 года назад

Midi can literally sound like anything

@djcantross1631 Год назад

MIDI was never gone. Professional sound uses MIDI today. Windows still has the GS Wavatable MIDI synthesis emulation.

@xan1242 4 года назад

11:50 but that's not how the mt-32 sounds in doom...

@tiaxanderson9725 4 года назад

To be fair, Doom doesn't 'support' the MT-32. In fact, a good deal of DOS games I own have a custom PLAY.BAT file that I made for each of them so that the MT-32 would be GM patched before launching the game with GM as the music card (Dosbox configs handle the rest of making sure my old MT-32 is used).

@cougar02000 4 года назад

After watching this I just had to scan through my archived music collection to see if I'd still got any midi files, and yes I still had 63 of them a massive 1.8 MB in size, it's been almost 20 years since I'd played any of them, and they still work on a modern computer with a standard Realtek hd sound card. I'd forgotten how pleasant they were to listen too, I'm going to have to listen to them more often now I've found them again. Now too see if I can find any more.

@freeculture 4 года назад

I have them as well, but found it easier to just download them again. I takes some searching (and darn those cheapstakes that only let you download 5 mids a day, as if they could incur in heavy bandwidth usage over 1k file downloads or something) but look long enough and you will find them. I have even found newer music i never thought would be made in gm. Ie: Gagnam Style!?!?

@NathanPa-xo3zj 4 года назад

Somehow i Gettin smarter from RU-vid instead 3 months of online classes

@adventureoflinkmk2 4 года назад

And with brilliant you can get smarter off youtube... for a fee, of course

@Tom2404 4 года назад

The internet is a powerful tool to obtain new information. There is nothing wrong with using it to learn something.

@MeadowStargazer 4 года назад

>Makes a video about MIDI on PC No mention of Yamaha's XGMIDI daughterboards for SoundBlaster nor its software implementation in a form of SXG50/SXG100 (SXG50 WDM version was even available for free from M$ update site) that used real hybrid wavetable oscillator synthesis with just a shy of 4 MiB sound banks capable of synthesizing almost thousand of different instruments. The one that blew M$ Synth garbage out of water even when playing General MIDI/GigaSampler files and were the de-facto standard among us gamers for MIDI synthesis, which only died out because Yamaha never bothered to create a 64-bit version of it. In fact, you can still find a working XG50 VSTi and use it in conjunction with any VST Host (Reaper or VSTi MIDI driver for Windows even). If you are unfamiliar with XGMIDI and the reasons why it's a really awesome thing, listen to this demo recorded from MU80, a hardware MIDI module sibling to DB50/SXG50: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jH8zfyr1_8M.html

@guybrushthreepwood1090 4 месяца назад

This remains an outstanding video. It fills in the gaps in understanding 7-11 year old me had wondering why there were so many soundcard options in setup.exe. Delightful!

@my4trackmachine 4 года назад

Damn. I want to hear your modular synth setup playing game music. That would be amazing.

@Hachiae 4 года назад

i never knew Brian Eno did the Windows 95 start up sound, lets just say after looking up canyon midi live performance i went down a rabbit holw.

@MyNameIsBucket 4 года назад

Yes, I remember an interview where Eno said he got a bunch of direction for subjective feel, mood, and experience the music should have... and then they said, "Oh by the way, the song has to be 5 seconds long."

@MCChubbyUnicorn 4 года назад

I played some midi songs on my 3D printer. It was amazing. Now that I've upgraded it, the motors are most likely going to be way to quiet to hear it :(

@jimjimx5418 3 года назад

0:28. Your a Microsoft sucker. You work for your computer. Change the motherboard, PSU, etc..... Get an Apple, that just works, and don’t need a right / left click...

@DanielGBenesScienceShows 3 года назад

For MIDI to control all aspects of a near endless variety of old-school computer video games, vintage hardware synthesizers, modern software synthesizers, and all of their provocatively musical parameters, as well as control-and be controlled by-an unending array of MIDI controllers, mixers with flying faders, wireless mice & qwerty keyboards, mobile devices and their apps, and the most sophisticated modern DAWs is nothing short of the musical equivalent of getting the flying cars we were promised in the 1950’s.

@srlorch406 4 года назад

Me: *plays midi with floppydrives*

@rookmaster7502 4 года назад

I haven't used my floppy drive in years!

@ianmi4i727 3 года назад

So lucky!!

@uK8cvPAq 4 года назад

I think the solid state tesla coil community use MIDI for their tesla coil music.

@yosyp5905 4 года назад

3:05 "With no noticeable delay". Yeah, tell that to recent Windows.

@danielgreen878 4 года назад

press key, 50ms later - plays note. they seemed to drop the support in windows 8+

@yosyp5905 4 года назад

@@danielgreen878 Do you know why? Or an alternative method do ASIO4all

@hgbugalou 3 года назад

What happened to MIDI? All the equipment ever made for it it is at LGRs house.

@CRAZYHORSE19682003 3 года назад

LOL SO true

@SudaNIm103 4 года назад

𝗚𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼! I certainly share your MIDI nostalgia! - ’𝑳𝒆𝒊𝒕𝒎𝒐𝒕𝒊𝒗’ is one of those weird lone-words and is pronouned (/ˌlaɪtmoʊˈtiːf/) or rather like “𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩-𝙢𝗼𝘁𝗶𝗳“ though a more literal translation might be "leading motif".

@wrmoose6542 4 года назад

Nice video. edit : oh hey am first, that nice also Canyon.mid is the best.

@root42 4 года назад

"It relied on L33tmotifs" -- say what? Ah! Leitmotivs (Leitmotive in German). Just pronounce it like "light"! Nice video!

@KRAFTWERK2K6 4 года назад

Lightmoteef ^-^ yeah it's funny how english speaking folks always mess up the ei as "ie". Like when they spell "stein" as "stien".

@ktvx.94 4 года назад

Listening to that Doom song over and over again made me realize how often old school metal songs use that kind of riff, AND how much it sounds like Master of Puppets

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад

Lots of the Doom soundtrack is "inspired" by 80's and 90's metal, and you'll find more riffs if you go through the other songs. There is Metallica, Judas Priest, Slayer, Pantera, King Crimson, Alice in Chains, AC/DC, Alice Cooper, Overkill, D.R.I., and more.

@raziyatheseeker 4 года назад

I unironically love MIDIs. I blame VGMusic dot com. Doom and RPG Maker 2000 MIDIs are also awesome.

@DavidGreen_au Год назад

My computer had a Roland SCC-1 in it, and I was quite surprised when a game I played found that card, and piled the music through it; knocked my socks off. But that was many years ago. I have just recently gotten back into listening to midi files, and an App acquired on my phone, combined with a hefty 500Mb soundfont file, I am building a substantial library of midi files which I listen to instead of the usual mp3 files. Of course, it depends on the quality of the midi file, but generally the results a quite realistic, which is probably not Nostalgia Nerd would prefer, but I do. One of the best parts of the midi music can also be the ability to see the music as well as hear it. The App I use has a keyboard representation for each track, so as the music plays, the respective keys light up with each note. It is a great visualiser.

@macsnafu 3 года назад

Midi was fun to play with, but mod tracking was even more fun. Finding and creating your own samples, and then creating music with the samples. A weird cross between midi and mod files were the Ad Lib trackers, where you could edit the FM synth sounds on the sound card and then use those to create music. Mod trackers made the leap to Win32 versions, like Mod Plug Tracker, but Ad Lib trackers were only DOS versions.

@jmcc000 Год назад

Aminet mod archive for the win

@macsnafu Год назад

@@jmcc000 I looked it up. The Aminet mod archive definitely looks old school cool. But I think that The Mod Archive has more mod files available than Aminet.