What Happened to Pontiac? | WheelHouse 

Jaime they really nailed that mood

I shed a tear...

Same here. Really sad to see an American brand that has such history go.

I bawled like a baby

Bruhhhh I shed a tear looking out the window at my GTO.. Hit deep

One of my friends once asked what kind of car my father owned. I replied "he's 63 years old." The follow up question was "what kind of Buick does your dad drive?". Again, "he's 63 years old." The follow up... "So a Century?"

Boomers.... but their customers are literally dying off

@@Olds_Pwr the power of marketing... how many people in their 20's and 30's do you actually see driving them?

@@Olds_Pwr that's fair for sure.. we share that frustration.... Im talking to you Oklahoma... get out of the left lane!

here in michigan all I see is girls driving grand prix may I remind you I also have a grand prix which makes my car seem like a girls car 🤣🤣🤣

Damn I see Pontiacs here and there

@@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335 come to the Midwest you literally see them all over the road and dealerships full of them

@@andrewsan5756 They are really everywhere in the Chicago area, and not even just the latest models. Grand Ams and Grand Prixs are common, not to mention the G6/G5 and more utilitarian vehicles like the Vibe. The brand isn't going away quietly here.

PONTIACS are supposed to be the best car brand to me and the best looking classics:( :(

Rust in pieces

Me too :(

I even cried there :(

It's a really depressing thing for sure... loved that they pushed boundaries, now we just have "cookie cutter" cars... I want to keep my aztek on the road as long as possible..

It's sad That's Pontiac is No longer Dealer Shipped It sucks Cuz It's an American M3

Legit nearly cried.

Made me let out a heavy sigh.

Pontiac GTO in 2018!! check out my project GTO ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-odtroBb0eHc.html

True. I truly cried. Because I love ALL of those new Pontiacs (yes, including the Aztek). Same as when GM quit India last year (probably for good..it was their 3rd attempt in fact)

holden VE commodore

Ya, I have a 1 owner g8 gt

I like the g6 to pretty nice car overall

I agree so is the g6 the g8 just that on steroids

@@nolangietzen4668 fr i want one so bad i saw one today n they’re meannnnnnn

@Dannny Lockridge: Amen Brother!

I agree.

With what money? GM spent DECADES fucking around trying to flood the market with so many damn cars and so many brands that they ran out of resources Which is similar to what Toyota did with scion But they were smart enough to pull the plug although Toyota took a while...

It takes massive amounts of money to bring back a brand like that

Danny Lockridge yes. YES YES YES

Thank you for your respect

General Motors stfu gtfo it’s ur fault

@@good-tn9sr SHUT UP

@@firenerf2197 I was talking to GM

Pontiac for Port Aurora 1926-2010 (Port Aurora from Sunset Paradise)

Facts! I’m going into my third Fiero(reasons not going into) and Pontiac will live on at least until I no longer live!

My fisrt car is a 01 Grand Am that I bought in 2012 with 177k miles. It now has 327k miles and my neighbors want to buy it. I have taken care of it and made some mods. In 2020 I bought an used 07 G6 Gt at dealership thinking the Grand Am would die soon. The G6, specially, is an attention grabber. There is always other drivers looking at it or trying to race. This coupe has a 3.9L v6 and a standard transmission. Not a fan of the green color, but oh well.

And Holden got closed too. Classic GM

David Salazar holden australia wa building them

David Salazar iso true. I was just thinking the same thing

David Salazar

Yeah I mean just imagine a 2018 gto or firebird

Well the 04 Pontiac GTO was essentially a 2 door version of the Australian Holden Commodore SS. Since then the Commodore SS has been updated (In America it's rebadged as a Chevrolet SS). A 2018 GTO would most likely look like a 2 door version of that (which doesn't exist).

Thank You Sir!

Honestly, merger between pontiac and Buick might have been a better option. The more distinctive and sportier offerings of pontiac from an 'old people car company' and of course, bucks, so they could appeal to two demographics.

Buick was and us trash which is why Pontiac outsold them 3 to 1. When they stopped making the firebird it signaled the end in my opinion

The Cadillac CTS-V is the only thing keeping people in interest in Cadillac

@@Medium-RareSteak not really. All cadillac cars are much nicer than a lot on the market currently (ya'know, with automotive designers bouncing from company to company and basically making the same cars in different manufactures) their designs are distinctive from others. What cars in the Cadillac segment are better for an equivalent or lower price? 😞 Unless you go for older models, probably won't find a lot.

Braden Sorensen yes. My family owns a blue metallic ‘08 g6, we have had it since 2010. Very reliable and very nice for a sedan. Imagine the Pontiacs today ;(

@@joshuaw_270 I know I looked up with the trim levels for the G6 and I was honestly shocked and all the things that had for being a 2004 to 2010 vehicle they were so f****** nice and I'm surprised that they didn't do as good as they could have

the epic ethan gamer on of the best sedans ngl I’m glad my parents own one

I'd like a 2020 Bonneville ssei

GM incompetence and Chevys whining can forget about that.

I've got a fiero

Absolutely true. Everyone loved the mid engine design, but they put an i4 in it, and that totally killed it. Sales in it sucked, so they finally realized they needed a better engine and they released the Fiero GT. This one had a V6 and it was a fantastic car. However, by the time the GT came out, people had already written off the Fiero as a trash economy car. It ended up never getting popular. That’s why we are all hoping that Chevy gets it right with their next mid engine, the C8.

I miss mine

@@aszimansk6937 If I'm not mistaken then 1987 model had a V6 in it with revised displacement to improve performance.

@ussling - I'm sorry, but you will never convince me that the Fiero was ever in danger of taking away Corvette sales - come on, man! I'll guarantee Chevy wasn't concerned at all with that either - two completely different cars at completely different price and performance levels. That's like thinking Dodge would have a problem with the Fiat 500 possibly taking sales from the Hellcat! Not gonna happen.

Get a Chevy ss. Same car but was produced until like 2015 or something so you can find a newer one without much trouble

@@doctajuice it's OK. I love old cars.. Less technology the better..

I have a 2002 Trans Am and a 2009 G8. Best cars I've ever owned.

Same

why would get that piece of crap its a really boring car and it would fall apart in front of your own eyes.

Buick has people with more disposable income. Pontiac had people just starting out and having some success. As a business it only made sense. Still, Buick has some of the ugliest and blandest cars/SUVs I have ever seen.

@@chrismarzarella2106 what i dont understand is why theyd offer two luxury brands that are very similar in both consumers and products. theyre effectively splitting their market in half. Why not cut it down to just Cadillac, rebadge some of the more unique buicks as new cady models, then youd have a larger consumer base with more options to offer them. And pontiac (at least for a while) had the fiero, arguable one of the cheapest sports cars ever mass produced. Had they continued making the trans am/firebird, maybe introduced a hot hatch and a couple smaller sports cars to compete with the imports that were blowing up, and maybe even a successor to the fiero, i think they couldve done pretty well.

I have a Buick and can pretty much confirm this. They attempt a cross between luxury and sportiness but are ultimately lacking and just a lesser, restyled Caddilac. They are decent but are basically slightly less for slightly less, might as well just stick with Cadillac.

Aren't GMCs just reskinned Chevrolet utility vehicles though?

No Anime Allowed thats fair to say but they do have some exclusives as far as i know, or at least heavily changed versions. And theres a much more diverse market when it comes to that sort of vehicle. With luxury, theres not much in terms of variation besides body style and horsepower.

Yes

Unfortunately, while KITT was a cool concept, that era of Pontiac Trans Am where shitty cars. Gutless and the interior basically fell apart after a few years.

@@TheRockinDonkey yeah i know... especially the leaky t-tops that would rust the whole floorpan

Don't forget KARR lol

Thank you

If you got the V6 option maybe. The one I had was a fully loaded GT model that was $35 grand.

@@Kenneth_Rogers Same, I still have mine, it’s got the premium sport and luxury package or whatever it’s called

Look into the Aussie Holden Commodores mate, the G8 is just a rebadged one of those. Though I prefer the Aussie Ford Falcon myself

@@Kenneth_Rogers Most people don’t need a v8. Although a v8 is cool. V6 is great too. Nowdays 4 cylinder turbocharged engines sell with a sports car over 30 grand.

Legit

Maloo anger intensifies

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@@user-wd5mx9ec3p LMAO

LS

LOL

That was hilarious haha

DAMN ! ya beat me to it lmao

Hummer is back maybe we'll see Pontiac again😢😢

Cck 5018 with previous generations it was either Packard or Studebaker but with this generation it was Pontiac!. When you consider from 1998 to 2010 we lost 8 makes of cars here in the US.

Same

Nice PFP CCK5018

Lonely Drivers for life.

Ugly p.o.s. with transmission problems out the ass.

ForzaS1 my families always owned pontiacs and fords. I’ve had multiple grand prixs, a grand am, a gto, g6 and now a g8. You obviously don’t know cars if you think Pontiac cars are pieces of shit

@@tylermelott6559 well excuse me for you winning the lottery, while the 3 I've had the "luxury" of dealing with had faulty gearboxes and cheaply made solenoids

ForzaS1 winning the lottery? Bud I’ve worked my ass off for the cars I have, I didn’t win any money or have daddy pay for them. I’m sorry if I offended you, or upset you, but Pontiac makes a good ass car man.

@@tylermelott6559 He meant not getting a lemon. He wasn't implying a windfall paying for them, just the fact that you got one that continued to work.

Cameron Mell I tried not to cry but it was difficult and I cried

BTW Obama was also the one to blame.reasons why 1: he is a non car guy 2: want to support people we hate (non car guys) 3 he dose not want his daughters driving Pontiacs 4 he thinks we ( young people ) should focus on being the future than muscle cars 5 he thinks muscle cars a just more problems

I was about to cry

Lancia 💔

SPicy rEns lamo, u rite, and thats he isnt president

Brad you spelled Chevrolet wrong.

every gm division sucks nowadays

@@johnjames4593 Chevy is full of shit nowadays and their passenger cars are unreliable

Jaden Reyes at least it’s not a F- Fix O- Or R- Repair D- Daily Or a F- Found O- On R- Road D- Dead Chevy doesn’t sell cars to people who run over crowds. They also don’t sell cars with the death wobble

@@jar1005 yeah crowd control is hard to deal with

That's when they stuck their foot in the grave!

billygowhoop hahahhaa true 😂😂😂👌🏽 or gto in need for speed

Who is Walter white?

Kera Atkins he was the protagonist in Breaking Bad

No I like to remember him with that SRT 8 Chrysler 300 lol

Exactly 😁👍

I'm curious, are you selling it over another sportscar ?

What’s your new car you’re gonna get.

B Rumph geeze..right now a clean gto like yours was is selling between 15-20k. They really did give it to you.

Ghost jerker!

04 gto doesn't look like a gto 04 monaro doesn't look like a monaro

Me

me

I have always had and known pontiac, even since childhood, it was a shame to see them go. Currently i have a 03 Aztek that has almost 300k miles, still rockin too! So I shed some tears at the end :(

I'm a ford guy and i cried

I was sad 😿😿😿😿☹️😢

Eh that was just a rebadged comaro. F body shit.

Yeah, because it wasn’t memorable hahah

The ws6 is what it was called and holy shit that car was awesome, fast, and comfortable I would know I had one. I had to sell it cause my wife.

@@robbieperry136 uh not quite. WS6 was a performance package available for the Trans Am. Not all Trans Ams have the WS6 package, in fact it's pretty rare to find one compared to just a regular trans am. But the hood is the easy way to spot one

@@sambert96 Yeah they were both F bodys but that doesnt make it just a rebadge lol They're pretty different looking cars, and in my opinion the firebird looked a whole lot better, especially in its final years

Kevin Rodriguez image a similar story, but Dodge is the parent company. Done.

colormesarge Chrysler was the parent company. Well, it was Daimler - Chrysler at the time

Kevin Rodriguez i daily drive a Plymouth

everything plymouth had was rebadged and sold under dodge

Plei-moth or ply-mouth?

Jacob You too funny LOL

Im crying

I'm crying to dude

I understand GM killed off a great auto manufacturer and people don't like it, but to be crying about it is just fucking ridiculous.

Since you said this for no reason after all you did it that means you're the only one who's crying

I have a white 2006 g6 doesn’t have any issues

@@connerSphotography mines one of the bluish green ones, and I have a local friend with a last month production that's identical to mine. Hers has all the same issues sadly

@@SOAxZIPPER white 09 gxp here, one of the issues showing its head lately are the lights in the interior (switches and such) are going out. sucks because I have taken apart the dash 3 times now replacing these 0$.03 bulbs

Jarrett Clark my family owned 2pontiac grand am, pontiac grand Prix, Pontiac grand am gt, and a Pontiac vibe, all those were in a car crash except the vibe we still have that one.

I have a V6 4th gen Firebird

I love my fiero! With its grand am heart... check out GARAGELESS for fiero content

GamingExtraordinary Don't tell people that. It's a v8 but you can't race because you got too many tickets.

I have a Pontiac g3 hatchback with a small 1.8l engine, that car really pulls after small mods, was actually thinking of turning her into a rally car this year, Shes good offroading on dirt roads at 160 kms both winter and warm weathers. And pulls on the street's, raced afew cars already😂😂

Elon musk will

And in a year you wouldn’t be rich anymore

@@Blake-dv9xf ehhh just depends

yeah

@@ahboi489 gimme a sub

yeah,i'm crying in the end ;-; #prayforpontiac

Armour Shooter How about for my thumbs down?

FFFFFFFF

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Armour Shooter who cares jdm for life

Knight Rider was my introduction to Pontiac!

@@adamc7987 SAME!

Guys I love Trans Ams, but it’s all about the GTO. And not just any GTO, I’m talking about the Judge.

The modren Knight Rider Series was a 2009 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 which didn't get many audience.

The fiero to. Fr. Like the 87 and 88 gt models are so amazing dude. I have a friend with one and its fucking killer

It's very simple - Buick is making money for GM, Pontiac was costing it money. Which one would you keep based on that?

You're mostly right, but don't say that to anyone who owns or owned a Buick Grand National !

No --- Buick fits into GM's global strategy, and sells millions of cars in China. Pontiac was a relative niche even though it was making money. It just wasn't making enough money to satisfy the folks who decided to kill it.

@@DHW256 - BAM! You hit it right on the head. Buick survived because of Chinese sales. In fact, Buick is the best selling car in China, and more are sold there than here...

Here's a solution rename Buick to Pontiac

what car on your profile pic?

@@aidaaliten8817 ginetta g60

And rip and good riddance shittyac!

and its a good thing gran turismo added his car to commemorate his death...R.I.P Burt Reynolds...

I drove my sunfire like a TVR !!!

The killed the viper

@@maryamkaita2529 good the viper sucked

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@@maryamkaita2529 took em over 8 liters and 10 cylinders to make the same power as a cammed small block chevy

For real, kinda bummed out knight rider wasn’t mention in this video

Dionysius Thrax Holy shit same here. It's not normal for a grown-ass man to cry, but god dammit, I sure did.

Lol same Amazing how a brand can evoke such deep emotions. I have some of my earliest memories and concepts from Pontiac. My uncle drove my cousins and I in one and made us all laugh when he took his hands off the wheel and drove with his knees. We laughed so hard. Memories like that have a lasting impression and losing the brand of car that was a part of that feels like we are losing a part of ourselves. But it helps refine us so it is all necessary. It slims us down like GM after '08

*You're crying over a car manufacturer? The fuck is wrong with you?*

Dionysius Thrax omg me too

Schmdty and youplay Roblox for a living shut up

YoungVolks I know ALOT of old people who actually own Buicks LOL

Buick is the #1 selling car in China if I’m not mistaken. I saw a gull winged Buick at an auto show with blue suede interior that was remarkable. Had Chinese letters on the trunk

YoungVolks I have a 2009 vibe and I totally love it

YoungVolks the Vibe is a rebadged Toyota Matrix... that’s why the Vibe still runs.

Park avenue ultras were the shit. All their cars were decently powerful and extremely comfortable.

My mother would beg to differ

@@BiggusJakeus I bet your mother drive a Honda

I just got a 2006 the other day

Nolan here- The Aztek is one of my guilty pleasures. Ugly, but misunderstood.

I always wanted to see Hellcat with diesel engine xD. 6.2L supercharged *DIESEL*

Y’all can keep those mulletmobiles. This Mopar guy would take a 66 GTO

I was thinking the same thing about that ending. My train of thought: "I wonder why this ending is sooo sad?" "I wonder what the comment section has to say about it?" Lol

Wily Kingpin...Hell Yeah!

I’m a Mopar guy my dad use to be a Ford man his first car was a Ford Maverick when he bought a 1985 D100 4x4 he never looked back we left ford on a good note MOPAR come to the Dark side 🔥😈

I"m not crying I just heard a GTO

Finn Ross youre making me cry

What do you mean, Pontiac?

Yes he ment pontiac

Also would love a 65 gto

Do you mean “ I wish I could see my children again.”

Thank you! It means a lot :)

They are doing the lords work

I don't... I don't want to go!

Lolololol most badass comment ever!!!

😂😂😂

TRPproproductions yup :/

Lol XD

Ben Dover, Ackshually *pushes up glasses*

Dan Knifechief lmao

As +Ben Dover said said, It was "the quintessential V8 engine swap". However that is not what defined a Muscle car. A muscle car had a higher tier performance engine equipped into a lesser model. GI's from WWII after they returned home invented the Hot Rod and modified vehicles such as the 32' Ford that was also noted by Ben Dover. They installed things such as larger engines, better wheels and tires, as well as anything that could to get their vehicle to go fast. There certainly were cars that may have been fast for their time as well as powerful but a muscle car is not just those things in a vehicle. A muscle car is a car that has a factory performed engine swap sold as a package. Using a vehicle from the video, If you had a Pontiac Tempest with the exact same mods as a GTO it still would not be a GTO. It would be a GTO Clone or a GTO tribute car as it was not performed at the factory and bought as that option.

Ben Dover but Pontiac invented the formula that would become and form the muscle car they didn't just credit John DeLorean with that title for no reason

Nobody forgot. Gm financial issues caused them to penny pinch the hell out of pontiac and saturn.

My favorite cars from each marque. Pontiac: Firebird Trans Am, GTO Judge, Bonneville, LeMans, & Tempest. Plymouth: Fury, Superbird, Cuda, & Prowler. Mercury: Cougar, Comet Cyclone, & Marauder. Olds: Cutlass 442, Tornado, & Aurora GTS-1. These marques also had some dope concept cars that sadly never made it to the market. Plymouth Pronto Spyder, Pontiac Banshee, Pontiac Salsa, Pontiac Rageous, Oldsmobile Aerotech, Mercury Antser, Mercury Messenger just to name a few.

@1% Evan Ł Isn't Saab Swedish?

@@PTSayoriD That's actually a pretty decent list. Some of my favorites are on that too.