The narrator sounds like a Sophmore in H.S. reading a paper that he wrote for his music class . But I learned some things about the DC5 that I never knew , all in all enjoyable .
THANK YOU for telling the world of The Dave Clark 5 - they were one of the greatest bands of the 1960s - thank you again , Joe Nania a.k.a. "Hollywood" Joe
@@arricammarques1955 yes much more AMERICAN rhythm and blues related songs ! True to their roots - where as the Beatles went out there and started a whole new direction in music !
Thanks for the info. I was wondering what happened to those guys. Their songs were and still are iconic, absolutely legendary to those of us of that age, especially 'Glad All Over'. Best wishes.
Narrator contradicts himself a few times, mispronounces words, and sounds as though he never rehearsed his script, making a few historical mistakes in the process.
Growing up with the Dave Clark Five to me they were my favorite group in the British Invasion. It really should have been called the Mike Smith five. Mike sang practically all the lead vocals it is known also known for playing the
Two Dave Clark trivia tidbits, if you watch the video of the Seekers recording Another You, the guy who's back you see entering the recording booth to get them set was Dave. Next on the reason the Dave Clark 5 were the most booked band on the Ed Sullivan Show. Ed Sullivan personally booked all entertainment for his show himself. Dave Clark booked all dates for his band himself and controlled all decisions. Ed dealt directly with Dave Clark and the two of them hit it off like a dad and lad mutual respect family. Dave learned a lot from Ed and used it through out his life.
Mike Smith was on the Paul McCartney level in vocal talent back in the day. He is underappreciated because he was not the song writer that Paul and others developed into over time.....in my opinion. BUT he was a great entertainer. sorry he met an early demise.
When Mike Smith had his bad accident falling off his roof in Spain ! And was Paralyzed! Peter Noone was really the only one! That stepped up and really helped him out along with his wife ! Peter Noone was beyond kind ! Dave Clark did nothing ! Even gave Mike A Problem With His Rock Engine Band ! Using The DC5 Songs! That Mike Sang Lead On All The Signature Hits!
@@keithhyttinen8275 Because of audio quality and other technical issues, most acts didn't want to perform live, and many television Producers wouldn't permit live performances.
I actually lived 300 yards away from Daves house in the 60s, if you wanted to make sure that you had a good party then, all you had to say was Dave Clark will be there, nuff said.
I would’ve liked more info on Dave Clark’s obvious business acumen , including his ownership of a British Soccer Club. It is so refreshing to think that a person out of that era took the business end of things directly into his own hands & didn’t totally get screwed over like so many artists of that era.
To You Dave Clark Fans..... They were the Group that Was Eddie's and Alex Van Halens Inspection to Start Playing Drums and Guitar... True Story from Eddie.... RIP Brothers..... See you in Rock n Roll Heaven ❤❤
You did an Awesome job on the Dave Clark five, I love that bad and you did them justice, and so now I'm a new subscriber and look forward to your next vlog. Thanks for the quality work and the history you shared with true music fans. P.S. can't wait for the next one. 👍👍
I was one of their biggest fans as a kid. I loved them. I wanted to be a drummer. Oddly, so many of their songs were about relationships...and I was just a kid. But after Catch us if you Can, which was a movie too. They were big. Anyway, they did not translate at all into the psychedelic transformation that music went into. They were of their time.
The reason DC5 were booked to Ed Sullivan right after three weeks of the Beatles was that they toured in the UK at various US bases & built up a fan base with our servicemen.
*No...it was a question of booking and talent agents who were frantic to promote anything remotely 'Beatles-like' in terms of pop music* *There was 'money to be made' from the new phenomenon from England, and it was exploited relentlessly by everyone in show-business* ( *Even 'Gene Simmons' jumped on that train with both hands with his 'Think Yiddish and talk British' approach to show business..."I knew if other guys could do it, I could do it too because it was all about 'look & feel & how you 'sell yourself' to a teen audience...our record sales as "Wicked Lester' were shit, but we gave kids the best 'Live-on-stage' show we could despite we could barely manage to play 3-chords from memory...that's how the all the 'make-up & costumes' started...we weren't that good musically or lyrically, but our 'stage presence' was killer doing live shows"* ) *EVERYTHING evolved from the 'Beatles' becoming a 'force unto themselves' after that first show on 'Sullivan' and virtually every 'somebody that was nobody' became in-demand because there was $$$$$$$ to be made!* ( *Even the 'Fabs' themselves weren't above 'copying' proven acts in the early days...wearing 'twat-hats' as Lennon called them because they were distinctive and known from 'Gene Vincent' and his band the 'Blue Caps'* )
@@RedArrow73 *Yeah...its an instance of 'truth is stranger than fiction'...I was ten when the 'Fabs' hit America on the 'Sullivan' show and people who didn't live that era can't imagine the aftermath it created!* *'Teen Idols' like Frankie Avalon and Fabian found themselves 'washed under' by the tsunami of the Beatles...even Elvis was forgotten for awhile, except for his movies* ( *In 1964 the 'Beatles' out-sold every other recording artist on Earth COMBINED in total sales* ) *Record companies in America were working '24/7' just to keep-up with demand, and little outfits like 'Chess' and 'Coral' joined-in...but, they never paid any 'Royalties' that were due from sales* ----------- *What used to be 'Supper Clubs' and 'Lounges' turned into 'go-go bars' overnight, complete with 'girls in bikinis and 'go-go boots' dancing in a cage* ----------- *The first time I heard the 'DC-5' on radio...I thought 'Well, the Beatles have 'upped their game' with this "Glad All Over" that was deliberately engineered to 'sound like the Fabs' and every kid I knew thought so too...it took awhile to realize 'it's not them'* *The first time I heard 'The Hollies' with "Bus Stop" I thought "That's damn good...I wonder how much John put in it because it sounds like a 'Paul' song to me" and I honestly didn't know it wasn't the Beatles at all, even though I would've bet money "Those are Ringo's licks on there!"* *"Nobody else plays like that!"*
@Dave Fairburn Yes they did play live gigs for U.S servicemen in the U.K but the DC5 were at the London Palladium on Feb 9 1964 the same day the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan! DC has said in a few interviews that when Ed Sullivan called, he didn’t know who he was and declined ... we know by March 8 1964 that would all change! Lucky us!
I grew up with the DC5 and The Beatles battling it out in 1963-64. The Beatles obviously "won" but it wasn't a sure thing at first. I remember the movie as a darker movie than the Beatles ones, and it always stuck with me. But I was only 10 at the time. This is great video with lots of good info. Thanks for doing this. I'll always be a great fan of the Dave Clark Five and still listen to their songs frequently.
@Stone Hobson We're about the same age (I was born in '52) and I remember some of the music magazines having articles about how the DC5 were going to outlast the Beatles because they were so much better since they had keys and sax.
@@deirdre108 Yes, exactly. It was a media fueled event. But in my young eyes I saw them as equals until it became obvious the Beatles led the way. I liked the keys and sax from DC5 and all bands that use them, too. Not much sax from the fab four. Thanks
@michael macbean I’m a’52er as well and remember those magazines. As groups, both bands called it quits by the time I graduated high school in 1970. Too bad DC pushed the fan base aside and held the music hostage for so many decades. I bought those bootleg cds...what’s a girl to do when her albums got ruined in sflooded basement 🎶😱🎶
To me Mike Smith was far and away the STAR of the band. They were a pure pop confection and maybe for a year they were up there at the top of the British invasion groups but for me they never had the greatness of the Beatles or Stones or The Who or The Kinks but for that brief period they were cool!
It could be because he was a horrible, disgusting, dishonest human beings who took writing credits for songs he had zero input for. I did love a lot of those singles but that wasn't Dave Clark on those records, rather session man extraordinaire Bobby Graham. Most those songs he claims he wrote were written by Ron Ryan. Don't believe me? Google is your friend. Dave is a piece of shit as a human being.
By 1966 the rock scene was changing . Many acts ( solo too ) tried to get the hang of psychedelia , and belly flopped . Ask Herman's Hermits , Johnny Rivers , lots of talented guys who couldnt do the new style well .
Can someone explain to me how pronunciations have changed with millenials? He says "Paydon" instead of PayTon. He says "Bri-an" instead of Britain. I always want to scream when instead of saying a word like "Important" it is now pronounced either "Impordant" or Impor-ant." I heard cheerleaders at a high school football game yell "Go Spardans" instead of Spartans...Yeah, Im annoyed. Decent info here none-the less, but dang...
In some ways the DC5 were one of the most successful groups because: they all remained friends AND they continued to receive royalties. They did their business well.
If my memory serves me, they were the first group to knock the Beatles out of the number 1 slot on the charts. I am more rock, but enjoyed a few of their songs.
Actually, re-listen to some of their songs such as "I Like It Like That", "Everybody Get Together", "Do You Love Me" and many others. They could Rock as much as any other band. Mike Smith could belt out a gravelly Baratone vocal that could make the Jaggers, McCartney's, and Daltry's take notice. In fact, while The Beatles made fans clap their hands, the DC5 made them stomp their feet. Lots of bands credit them as an influence. You'd be surprised on which artists are fans.
@@jayanxiety thanks for the tip. I was speaking of their whole package of music. Eagles and Beatles had a few rock songs, but overall they were pop or soft Rock. Just my thoughts from an old rocker that got in the ground floor. Thanks.
I really enjoyed your post! And the pop sends Dave Clark five was like pound for pound one of the best pop acts out of the '60s. They just have so many songs!
@@joebrewer4529 Their contemporaries included the Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Who, the Hollies, Spencer Davis, Cream, and Them. All of whom, in my opinion, were superior to The Dave Clark Five.
@@GlenWood47 early rolling Stones is mediocre at best. All those bands share the same thing in common is half a lesson of things they were putting out especially album was was mediocre. The same goes for Dave Clark five. But the one thing they all share is they put out a lot of great singles in that time period. With really only the Beatles exclusively having both great singles and great albums. That's truly what makes the Beatles trailblazers is there the first band to put out albums that didn't suck. I mean even the Beatles first album is a great album. And with the Beatles is truly their first grade album. I can't really think of any band from that time period that put out great albums except for maybe the sonics!
@@joebrewer4529 Excuse my lack of understanding of the subtlety of your perspicacious response, but does that not just reinforce the point I was making?
This would of been Good to Excellent IF the narrator could Speak Properly and Not Trip over every other word! It's called Practice Practice Practice! THUMBS DOWN on Narration! Thumbs UP on Content!
Bob Graham played drums. Rob Ryan wrote songs and Mike Smith wrote songs. Dave Clark never wrote any songs, yet his name is listed as song writer on most of them. That was part of the deal. That's why you will never hear Dave Clark talk about any of these things in any interviews.
Never knew that about Dave Clark sounds like a really greedy bad man. Suppose now that's why if you look him up and see how bad he looks now trying to look younger and he had blotched plastic surgeries.!
@@dengelking2121 I had a long conversation with Rob Ryan on RU-vid in one of the comments sections on a DC5 song. He set the record straight. He was a ghostwriter who didn't get any credit. He wrote Anyway You Want It and Because by himself, both songs credited to Dave Clark. Dave made the millions and put the band on a salary. Even Rob had to fight to get any money for his contributions.
@MAGNETO Yes , songs that only credit “Clark”are the Ron Ryan compositions.”Because “ and “Any Way You Want It” are on that list. I believe “Bits and Pieces” (Clark:Smith ) was also one of Ron’s. Not sure what happened there.🤷🏻♀️
@@fangirllinda correct. He put the band on a salary while he made the big profit. For years he had promised Ron that he would get paid but never paid him. He finally gave Ron something to keep him quiet, but it wasn't the same as earning the profits that a songwriter would earn. Ron told me all this himself in one of the threads on youtube.
@Magneto Yes, I “met” up with Ron on the now defunct Glad All Over Message Board and also on various RU-vid threads. He’s very gracious with answering our questions. It’s a shame he got short changed. Nothing bothers me more than when people aren’t compensated properly.Boy if we had a go fund me page back in the day...💰💰🎶🎶
The way Mike Smith sang the D C 5 should have switched to a bit harder Rock style plus explore real Blues and R & B and ditched the pop songs. they would have weathered the 1967 change in the music style. Blues and R & B never leaves, It always weaves in and out of what ever music trend is going on at the time.
The song I Need You I Love You sounds eerily like The Beatles. I played this song to a friend and he said, "The Beatles right?" I said "no, The Dave Clark 5"
There were a set of VHS tapes of the Ready Steady Go shows released in the early 1980's in the UK. These featured a song performed by the DC5 on each. I still have them somewhere but I bet they don't play any more even if I could find a VHS player that worked!
They were a bit like an earlier take on the Monkees, with a ghost writer writing their songs and a studio musician drumming for Dave, but their songs were a part of my childhood and I enjoyed them.
When the British invasion happened I was a teen.... The most popular early bands were Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Animals and Dave Clark five. As I remember the Beatles and the DC5 were early and billed as the "good" guys...and their image and sounds backed this. The Stones, Animals and Kinks came later as kind of the "bad" boy image. All were great in my opinion ...in their own way. The DC5 were huge in the US and their music was great. I purchased their Greatest Hits vinyl a couple of years ago and treasure it along with my massive collection of Beatles albums. Thank you.
You're exactly right. The first wave was sunny and also included Gerry & the Pacemakers and Billy J. Kramer & the Dakotas, peter & Gordon and Chad & Jeremy. But that fall brought in harder, darker groups, also including the Nashville Teens and the Honeycombs.
After Badfinger scored a hit with Come And Get It, a Paul McCartney composition, they fell out of favor. Afterwards they were never heard of. As for suicide, I doubt it. Most likely the members were members of other bands.
Didn't write one song either. He demanded that his name be put down as writer when in fact Rob Ryan was the ghost writer of some of their biggest hits. Others were written mainly by Mike Smith. The band didn't make any money from all of their efforts, they were put on salary wages.
@@royrice8597 Clark produced the DC5 records, but he used a session drummer to drum on them. He also did not co-write the songs he got credit for. Ron Richards wrote them by prior arrangement with Clark. Clark was supposed to reimburse Richards for the lost royalties but eventually he stopped doing so. The DC5 didn't last because it wasn't a group like the Beatles or Stones. The members were Clark's employees, not his partners. Clark did not play drums on DC5 records. The irony is that Clark might have made more if the DC5 had been a real group. The Stones and Hollies have lasted decades. The DC5 had flamed out by 1968.
Thanks for providing the information. But the narration was so clunky. I would suggest doing multiple takes to smooth it out. Apologies if this is due to a disability or condition.
they missing that really happen to DC5 was DC lost the use of one hand from a bobsled where he went off track. it made it impossible to play the drums any more.
@Johnny Hicks Found the clip of that 2003 Letterman show where Mike sat in with Paul’s band while Paul filled in for David Letterman. I had no idea that Paul Shaffer was a big fan of Mike’s.That must have been a fun night for the audience 🎶🎶 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mlyudBn-TpQ.html
They never played live - a solid clue to who really was on the records - not them. They never changed their sound / like Herman hermits they were outdated in a couple years - and narration is god awful
I found a live performance. The Royal Command Performance. That’s all I could find. The rest is all mimed. Not even plugged in to look live. Plenty of Beatles and Stones live but they could all play and play well.
The Hermits played live on Ed Sullivan five times. Peter Noone (Herman) says they did the songs "better than the record." Do not diss the Hermits. They were my favorite band when I was 13.
I always listened to the DC5 in their early days ... they had the glamour of the 60s.. the looks of the 60s ... the only thing is that they didn't survive the change of trend like most early 60s bands... my favourite song is "Glad all over" thanks..
Really a well-researched video. But the audio/narration absolutely must be re-rehearsed and overdubbed to exclude the grammatical errors and associated gaffs. What happened to The Dave Clark Five?.......the best answer was in an excellent review I read in 1993 with the release of the CD compilation that year: "They failed to cross Abbey Road". And that's about as concise as it gets!
Hey my friend...thanks for this video. Now In answer to your question...my favorite band of the 1970's and the 1980's is the JGEILES BAND. They were totally outstanding and yet, how come they are not in the rock and roll hall of fame??? Their selection committee must be out to lunch somewhere.
This is just more proof that the. DC5 were more than the Dave Clark 5 haters say about them..When other performers join in at their Induction ceremony like Billy Joel and many many others ,it kind of dispells all the opposition..
Rascals always reminded me of a studio created group....like the Monkees and Cowsills and Partridge Family etc. Came late with none of the cred of the earlier groups that came up through the survive or die club and dancehall world of that day. Maybe i'm wrong but they seemed kind of created for the moment. Some good songs though.
