What happens if these two true dragons clashed?  

No doubt. Rudra be getting all the heat

Both are complete package la

Still taking mommy Velgrynd anyday, i love a tsuntsun who is loyal bro

I would love to have both.

List your top 10 atleast from tensura then

@@areenbhalekar949 1. Velzard 2/3. Luminus and Testarossa (can never decide which I prefer), 4. Beretta, but only if it's true that she looks like Rimuru/Shizu under that mask but with white hair. If not, it'sTreyni 5. Albis. 6 Velgrynd 7. Ciel 8. Shion 9. Souka 10. Adult Chloe. Honorable mention to all the elf girls in the Night Butterfly Club in Dwargon.

@@D00MTR33 beretta💀if had a demon

She will as it's the only way she'll escape feldway's control and she's actually still stronger than both which is why neither of them went to confront her as remember leviathan is the weakness of all ultimate skills as it can degrade them to unique status

@@Tempura-kf9cd a CPL of points: 1. Yes most likely she will get an upgrade to escape feldway however it should be stated that unlike the (now non cannon) WN, she is not actually under his control. Mentioned by Guy, she's actually only doing this because she kind of wants to. In the LN guy already stated that (same as WN) he could alter her skill but it won't stop her as she actually wishes to do this ( force Guy to fight her for real). 2. Neither LN nor WN does the leviathan skill downgrade other skills. In fact I don't recall a single skill that downgrades other ppl's skill, do u mean negate? Cuz in that regard that is true, however Velzard's OG ability already does this. As mentioned during Dagruel's fights, natural phenomenon (amongst other things) can't be activated in a suspended world, which as Velzard's ability is about "freezing", stopping time itself is easy for her. 3. Lastly, whilst unproven atm, I do agree with u that velzard most likely can still beat velgrynd & veldora. This is more or less supported by that fact that in the past only Guy was capable of defeating her 1v1. Whilst Guy still hasn't had any good on air fights (as of LN), by everything that's stated it still seems Guy is considered the strongest (except Rimuru) currently as of LN vol 21. P.S. Whilst I don't recall Leviathan abilities having the power to degrade Ultimate skills. I don't want to leave the conversation with me just saying it's incorrect. If u can, pls find the volume ( WN or LN) that info is mentioned ( or slime wiki, whichever) so that I can check it out. As for me, from what I know, LN hasn't stated such as of vol 21, and in the WN, Velzard only faced Guy, Velgrynd, & Chloe. Chloe was under enemy control and was focusing on Guy but easily showed her superiority to Velzard. Velgrynd was capable of moving even though Velzard was preventing it but Velzard was shown to easily be superior to velgrynd (, as stated by Velgrynd herself, telling her allies, that she can't hold off her elder sister for long). Guy ended up altering her skills but even then he needed velgrynd to keep Velzard busy ( and veldora to stall Chloe)..... That said I don't see a time in either LN nor WN that Velzard's Leviathan skill downgrading other skills

@@victorlee4482 actually degrade was auto correct and the part about unique skills was meant to be anything below ultimate is useless

@@Tempura-kf9cd I see in that case I think we share the same views....something interesting I want to share with u & all other fans tho..... Ultimate skills don't necessarily override unique skills. This was confirmed by Rimurur himself. Chloe as Chorna/Hinata defeated Veldora ( & locked him up) using unique skill absolute servance even though Veldora is a true dragon & already had an ultimate skill. Rimuru brought it up a few times in the LN/WN ( especially when they were fighting the Eastern Empire). Whilst normally Ultimate Skills do "conquer" all other skills, Rimuru came up with a different conclusion after noticing it isn't always the case ( example # 1 Chloe vs Veldora, example # 2 Diablo vs # 7 & # 9 of the Eastern Empires best ( whom had the Ultimate enchant skills)). What Rimuru discovered was that in their world, the thing that is necessary for unique and ultimate skills, are a strong will. Therefore even if a unique skill user is matched with an Ultimate skill user, it doesn't mean defeat, it just means that it's gonna be really hard for them to win even if their will is stronger than the opponents. The most obvious example of this though is Dagruel, whom as Ashura ( a near god but has no ultimate skills) utterly defeated Luminous & Shion ( both of which are Ultimate skill users during said fight).

​@@victorlee4482veldora vs chloe part is wrong cause veldora only got his US after meeting rimuru and became a demon lord, and the seven luminaries with ultimate enchantment does it belong to US? From what i understand in tensura the greater being u are the stronger u are, even tho veldora is a godlike being cause his a true dragon, chloe is a demigod cause she is a true hero, she won because veldora is a dumbass (and cause he was shaken by her beauty) if its true only veldora knows. On diablo part he is a greater being, he is a demon peer on that part and it is said that he is on par with true demon lords already, to defeat him you should alteast be a hero, you should know that humans in tensura are weak asf, those luminaries aren't even saint level, hinata, a saint, defeated them it means they are not of her level and she cant beat luminous, a true demon lord, it means they have no chance to diablo to begin with

Yes

Velzard is older and has far more experience and skills than velgrynd. She also has 2 ultimate skills , thats why

@@electrongamerz01 in light novel there is no statement about her having 2 ultimates "yet" it's stated that she has lord of patience Gabriel

@@Velzard_tempest She also has envious king leviathan

@@electrongamerz01 it's not "yet" stated in the light novel which is cannon or official series , she has envious king leviathan in web novel which is non-cannon

Velgrynd already has Rudra whilst Velzard has Guy Crimson so i doubt that

That aint a question its a fact

milim father......