😂 yeah that is a failed plan cuz ichigo aizen never came close to defeat yhwach@@kennethaizn1763and aizen wanted someone to defeat yhwach but it failed the one who actually did most of the work is ryuken arrow who stole yhwach almighty or else he was doing 1vall
Correction: Aizen doesn't need to show Ichibē his release, at least not if we're talking about TYBW Aizen, since he's one with his zanpakuto he can put pretty much anyone under hypnosis if he so much as appeared in someone's eyesight, I'd say if it worked on Soul King Yhwach it has no reason not to work on Ichibē + if we take hogyoku and immortality into account I can't see Ichibē winning in any circumstance
@@thomasmicaelcannon7867the hogyoku is made of a part of the soul king and in the video, he assumed ichibei’s bankai (name writing powers) not to work as the almighty didn’t work
Well Ichigo was in his sight and Aizen said it himself that it’s a good thing that Ichigo was never affected by his illusions, so him just being in eyesight wouldn’t be enough, at least not without effort in turning the release/ equivalent of it on. Aizen is broken, hut not that bad, at least not yet.
@@calebcollins5887 he said it was a good thing he kept kyoka suigetsu's release hidden from Ichigo, meaning Ichigo's always been unaffected cuz Aizen chose to do so, if he wanted to he could've probably put him under it but what would be the point in that?
Aizen took the precaution of transending before entering the Soul King Palace, knowing full well the power of Squad Zero. Likely he would have been able to get past at least 3 of the first 4 capatains, but I'm unsure how he'd fair against an Unsealed Bankai member or Ichibei. My guess is that he would transcend again while facing the four who become one unsealed bankai, win, and then proceed to fight Ichibei. Considering Ichibei's foreseight and that he didn’t even step down to greet Aizen when he was about to make the Ouken, he probably didn’t see Aizen as a true threat. That said, he may have been aware that Ichigo would still win, or he could have been underestimating Aizen. Regardless, i think Ichibei has the capacity to seal Aizen, so I believe he can actually win against him. However, it’s a 50/50, so out of 1000 battles, each of them win half.
I'd like to think it goes without saying that Aizen would absolutely clown on the rest of the Zero Division. The only one I could see putting up an actual fight is Oetsu. Even then, it stands to reason that Aizen would be able to recover from pretty much anything Sayafushi could do. The only way I could see those four "winning", would be with the Blood Oath Seal, and we can assume that Aizen might have some at least peripheral knowledge about it and a potential contingency. Or he would just tank it, and regenerate/evolve past whatever damage gets done to him.
Lol a bunch of nonsense considering the concept of the hogyoku which is set in stone an Cannot be changed now an aizennis its perfect host therefore he is basically a God no one is beating the true power of the hogyoku lol stop dreaming an understand the concept of the hogyoku. It was so powerful that Aizen had to stop desiring power which halted his evolution which is just nonsense to written in a plot to give other people hope of fighting aizen lol yall astonish me on how little yall understand
@@hikoakatsukisamI agree with you. I don’t think nobody in the series can beat Aizen because of the hogyoku. When he reaches a limit. That thing reraise the limits. I’ll damn near say it’s better than the heart of the soul king that gerard has.
Even if Ichibei‘s ink would weaken Aizen the hogyouku would amp him out of it. It would have even saved him from Urahara‘s sealing if his heart wasn’t bewildered.
@@therealzacrich It's unknown whether Ichibe would be defeated or not. However, Soul King is the ultimate power in Bleach. Ichigo and Aizen were the 2 candidates to replace soul king. So, there is a possibility that Ichibe could be defeated by either of them. However, so far, whether Ichibe can be defeated or whether ichibe would win is only head canon as we don't know where the author stands. But, I feel that there is some foreshadowing that Ichibe is evil. So, maybe he maybe a hidden boss that will later reappear. We never know.
Aizen is smart and he had a plan. If the Hougyoku wasn't enough to beat Ichibe, he would never reveal himself and betray SS. My bets are on Aizen, because he only lost due to the combination of the powers and the intelect of two of the most powerful characters of Bleach.
@Blackreapxr Azien was lonely to put it short. He got both wishes granted. He wanted to be the strongest but at the same time he started to hate the loneliness of being so strong
Exactly, and even at one point aizen was fighting Ywhach all by himself, Ichibei got clipped as soon as Ywhach activate almighty. Aizen was soloing him for a bit while Ywhach had the almighty and more
@@noelogbeide7135 brother, go reread the manga and see for yourself. The ichigo and renji that were present during the fight wasn’t really them. Keep in mind ywhach was affected by KS since way before he even re-obtained the almighty, now go read
Even Yhwach said that it'd take too much time or trouble to kill/take Aizen with them and then the same Yhwach just casually played with Ichibe ... (Yes he played with Ichibe, the first fight was same as Yamamoto fighting Royd/Loyd... And Ichibe too was too arrogant, he's not smart enough)
That is so wrong it's even funny. Yhwach used a hundred percent of his powers to try and kill Ichibe, but Ichibe "killed" Yhwach by taking away his name, which undid the seal on Yhwach's Almighty ability. Base Yhwach is not stronger than either Yamamoto with both arms or Ichibe. Yamamoto would have been considered a War Potential if he had both arms, and this is backed up by many facts. Remember when Grimmjow only had one arm? He was immediately kicked out of the Espada for being too weak, but as soon as Orihime brought his arm back, he killed Luppi and got his spot back. Kenpachi only ever swung his sword with one hand, but against Nnorita, Kenpachi needed both hands, making his swings much more powerful. Kubo has shown time and time again that only having a single arm makes you weaker than normal. Just like in real life, if two kendo masters fight and one only has one arm and the other has both, the winner will be the swordsman with two arms. Yhwach, like Rylod, who had eighty percent of Yhwach's power and 100 percent of his memories, has lost to Yamamoto's Bankai, which is why he had Rloyd weaken Yamamoto before showing up. There's a reason why both Aizen and Yhwach made plans for Yamamoto instead of facing him themselves while he was fresh.
@@dantejohnson7796 Base Yhwach still has much better hax which can neg Yama, he uses Sankt Altar to take away any kind of power/ability and use them, or simply uses Auswhalen which boosts him tremendously. Base Yhwach>Yama prime both hands. With Almighty he obviously one shots. Royd had 70-80% of base Yhwach's power, not exactly 80% Kubo said 70-80%, so it could be only 70%. And databook states that captain Aizen and Yama are equals, they have te same stats, so Yama cant beat normal shinigami Aizen without going all out+Aizens KS still perfectly works on Yama which can fool him. Yes Aizen said Yama probably can win due to his more experience and ver bid DC capabilitys in bankai, but it could go both ways, captain Aizen also could kill Yama
@@dantejohnson7796yup! they knew he could beat them easily. they played it smart. always send in someone almost as strong as him to fight and weaken him and then go in for the kill.
@@Twixzyboy Dude Tousen can fight without an eye , basic logic just doesn't applied in most shounen. Even ichigo feats fighting aizen without looking at his blade should be borderline impossible because they both fight with a sword. Yet ichigo is still able to catch Aizen blade bare handed.
@Hansen_0101 Literally, everyone knew that they were under Kyoka, and still all were affected and fooled. It's irrelevant knowing about it if you have no counters. And we aren't just giving people feats that they have never showcased. If Aizen wad able to affect "SOUL KING" Yhwach then he for dam sure would affect Ichibei. Also the whole Ichigo scenario doesn't even make sense and isn't what happened
Aizen doesn't need to show his release anymore. He is fused with Kyoka Suigetsu now so all you have to do is look at him. That's how Ywach got put under KS when he visited Aizen while still sealed in the chair. Plus he has the highest SP in Bleach and can cast the highest level Kido without incantations. He is truly the definition of OP.
@donaldmonroe6823 come to think of it: I see it reversed. Aizen is truly immortal; he can't die. Ichibe has the power to take names amd essentially others powers amd abilities
@rileyduncan3927 ok understandable, but ichibe is hax bro so I think he is 100 percent a transcendent being he has been alongside the soul king for thousands of years
You're absolutely right. I've always wanted someone to say this. If Aizen actually entered the soul palace, he would be hard countered by both Ichibei and Oetsu Nimaiya. Nimaya forged and Ichibei gave the name. But the deciding factor would be the Hogyoku. Love you, @TheSenpaiYT
Aizen is virtually untouchable, Ichibe's ink would simply be erased from existence the moment it get close to Aizen. Not even Kyoraku could even think of getting close to Aizen without being erased, Ichibe should only be a few steps above Kyoraku, transcending shinigamis and hollows implies being superior in basically everything
Yeah, Aizen with Hogyoku is just GG under any circumstances. The only reason he even lost in the first place was because he wished deep down to lose and the Hogyoku granted that wish
@DestinyKeeper it's on a few of the data books, and the cover of the volume 46 and 48, although those cover are kinda implying it more loosely, but the data books have more direct statements
Had Aizen won against Ichigo and went to the Soul Palace. Aizen has already fused with his zanpakuto so all of Squad Zero would be hypnotized just by looking at Aizen. Ichibe would put up a fight but Aizen would still win. The only way to counter Kyoka Suigetsu is to touch the blade or Aizen himself but that's easier said than done.
Completely forgot about this but watch Why Aizen vs Squad Zero Isn't Close (At All) by Clyde it has the source listed in the video and it has other reasons why this is true
i would like to point out that captains have released their bankai without saying bankai before. so wordless activation seems possible its like how you can condense kido activations or do wordless kido activations. just like how words have meaning and your release states can be different on how you say it. saying it in full might release its whole power but you might be able to get a whole activation just by thinking it. this could be possible if you were aizen because his reiatsu is so damn high that he probably has full power over his sword. he has enough power to just make his sword his slave and force it to comply. even yamamoto couldnt tell aizen was tricking everyone because his reiatsu is so damn high. so aizen could make it seem like his bankai is actually his bankai with saying a fake release activation and just force a full bankai release. aizen might also be able to change what his sword release states look like. for instance. what if kyoka suigetsu is actually the name of his bankai. what if his shikai doesnt actually do that much and he forces his shikai to look like a regular zanpakatou. so when he releases his bankai it just seems like its his shikai. after all his shikai is way too powerful to be a shikai. and he has enough reiatsu to use a bankai if he wanted to cause he would just dominate his sword spirit.
I know that many people think that aizen will oneshoto ichibei. But in my eyes is ichibei is far more deeper. He is literally one of the first and strongest beings in verse, his story and narrative role tell us that he is beast. Ichibei didnt show us whole set of his arsenal, he was defeated for obviosly reasons(almighty). I think that its not impossible for ichibei to seal aizen, he is haxed as hell and i am sure that he is ancent book of hax's and abilities P.s. i cant agree that ichibei is transcendent being, we dont have reason to trust in that. Aizen however is. But ichibei will not be overpowered by aizen's reiatsu because gap betveen them is not enormous
Ichibe can rewrite names of presumably anything. He named practically everything related to the Shinigami. Would that not mean that he can simply change the name of the Hogyoku so it no longer functions or strip Aizen of his Shikai?
@@ariasabuunian2985damn fuck it’s just now that I realized that his color scheme as he merged hogy is white which could be a counter to Ichibei’s power against all black
btw, aizen hasnt more reiatau than ichibe, its exactly the opposite, and no zanpakuto can be used agains ichibe, since hes the one that names the zanpakutos and even the soul reapers lol
You're forgetting, Aizen doesn't need his physical zanpaktō to put someone under Kyoka Suigetsu since he fused with it. He did it to Yhwach, he could definitely do it to Ichibe.
Aizen mastered his Shikai though and now he doesn’t even need to show his Zanpaktou because it’s a part of him. Perhaps maybe it still wouldn’t work but the power of the Hogyoku that he still possesses is definitely bigger than Ichibe’s power if we are talking about attack potency…
Aizen fused with his zanpakuto so his shikai can be silently released at any time instantaneously (so Ichibe wouldn't know when and if he can look at Aizen or not), you just look at him and your under his shikai's genjutsu
I think aizen bankai is full subjugation as his shikai is 5 sense subjugation so it would fits his character as he is a subjugator like imagine him waiting ichigo till he reaches his peak potential and then control him like til now we didnt know why aizen even created ichigo
Ichibei is also immortal and Ichibei also has pieces of the soul king. It's on his bones. Ichibei also used to have one of the soul kings arms 1000 years ago. I don't see how Aizen can beat Ichibei. The man who was called the strongest Shinigami.
Ichibei is the captain of Royal guard who protects soul king .. Guys how can you thought about lose in front of Aizen .we didn't even know the full potential of ichibei
might I humbly suggest changing up the background music in these shorts from time to time? every short I have seen here has had the same background music and it drives me batty 😭.
I know Aizen is strong like literally Op. but I don't know why, I just can't see Ichibei losing. He's the founder of soul reapers. The only reason he lost to Yhwach was because of the ALMIGHTY. Which for me it's the most hax power ever. Aizen might give him a very tough fight. Like out of 10 I see Ichibei winning 6 and Aizen 4
aizen as arrogant as he may be is super smart i 100% believe he had at least several plans/ideas on how to deal with squad 0 and ichibei meanwhile we saw ichibei being arrogant and cocky against yhwach so i 100% guarantee he would have sae attitude towards aizen and that would cost him just like in fight against yhwach
Kubo already explained how Yhwach got caught by Kyoka Suigetsu and that this version of Kyoka Suigetsu is actually weaker than the original. And the explanation Kubo gave for how Aizen new Kyoka Suigetsu works it is actually the motive he would loose agaisnt Ichibei. That representantion of Yhwach talking to Aizen in the Muken was figurative, Yhwach never met Aizen and they spoke through their Reiatsu. Yhwach allowed Aizen reiatsu to get in contact with his (so that they could talk to one another) enabling Aizen to put him under the effect of Kyoka Suigetsu. Ichibei already knows about that.
I think the gap in Reiatsu is huge enough to be a variable. If they were close enough that you wouldn't really consider it, then there is no point in treating Aizen as a special power purely for his Reiatsu. Like you have a dude who is old as time, he knows a lot and he has an energy of 90. While the other is just a normal dude in terms of everything else, but has an energy of 100..... Would you even bother considering him? - He isn't nearly as smart as Kisuke, only reason Kisuke is having a hard time against him is due to the sheer difference in level of power. Kisuke literally managed to seal him due to sheer planning and playing his cards right. - He doesn't have nearly as much potential as Ichigo, who can replace the Soul King itself. Even Ichigo during the battle with Ywach just recently got his new powers, meaning he lacked time to perfectly master it (in short, it still has a lot of room for growth). - He isn't even close to as old as Ichibe, who's Aizen is probably like an infant compared to his age. Point is, I doubt his Reiatsu would be considered a threat if it was merely 10% better than Ichigo or Ichibe.
I think another theory to include in this is that it's at least been theorized that the Oken gives a boost to Squad Zero. If Aizen made his own Oken would it boost him immensely?
I actually think someone who withstood an enhanced Almighty might’ve the advantage over someone who couldn’t withstand the basic one. Also, Aizen no longer has to show the release to put someone under Kyouka Suigetsu and we’re yet to see how powerful is Aizen’s reiatsu without his seals so I feel his reiatsu forcefield may let him go untouched by Ichibei’s ink
I haven’t read the manga, but Aizen was like, stronger than Ichigo without his Shikai/Bankai. The same Ichigo, if not weaker, went blow to blow against Yhwach even after being battered and very tired.
Without the Hogyoku Ichibe wrecks Aizen. It's not even close. The reason I mention that is because anybody can get a Hogyoku. And I don't know why people keep mentioning Aizen's Bankai. Aizen has already stated that he's transended soul reaper powers. He's already beyond his own Bankai. He would've just used it against Ichigo if he had something more.
It's not about the Kyoka Suigetsu. Do you think Aizen hadn't thought this through ? The lichpin of his plan was always the Hogyoku, which would allow him to evolve no matter the circumstance, in order to adapt and overcome.
Aizen is not the type of guy who pick flights without knowing he can win and he was gonna attack royal palace so what countermeasures he would be having against ichibei can't be known. Plus how much hogyoku is affecting against ichibei or vice versa is not known
