What if America Had Nuked China? 

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Provocateur they aren't going to do that and even if they do they will fight later over the spoilers of war

Is-lame haha thats a good one

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Chaotic good

Piroclanidis Russia called they said nope...

Ringkun Mori I will never understand your kind

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+Ringkun Mori You do realize your theory is already happening right? Their population is aging, recently has to repel the one-child policy because birth rates were too low. They hate Japan's waifu cultural power so much that they had to develop crappy anime knockoffs.

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Someone should have assassinated Truman and let McArthur gained approval. I seriously despised North Korea. Its a mockery that shouldn't even exist.

@@rogueascendant6611 As much as I hate North Korea, I do not by any stretch believe that assassinating Truman would be the answer

@@rogueascendant6611 isint north korea an irrelevant state nobody cares about though? hardly worth getting rid of a president over.

@@tctlunar3488 it wasnt the answer, Its the question. THE ANSWER IS YES

@@sorcierenoire8651 No

Jeffrey Herrera dude your really messed up what’s wrong with you?

Jeffrey Herrera you fat illbred boy

Jeffrey Herrera I think you’re crazy

@Jeffrey Herrera oh come on that's a bit harsh, sure he/she smells a bit but I wouldn't say they're revolting!

Jeffrey Herrera I’m in charge now to the GULAG

A-Bomb: How Are YOU?? H-Bomb: I'm YOU, But Stronger!!!

Atomic bomb really said: Use me for once.

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*_"It's not a phase mom!"_* *_-Hydrogen bomb_*

@@justarandomsovietofficerwi2023 nice.

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We'd live in a paradise where no-one wants for anything and theres never any war

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TyOrca 5 We would have a better games industry.

Sorry I don't get this reference, what are you talking about

@@duncanreeves225 On March1969, Sino-Soviet relationship broke apart due to The Battle of ZhengBao Island.

@@milokaw4193 but the USSR didn't nuke China in that conflict

@@duncanreeves225 After China took over ZhengBao Island, Soviet threatened China to return the land or else they will nuke Beijing. During 70's~80's, China has tight relationship with USA. In order to further tightening the relationship, USA provide nuclear protection to China (if Soviet nuke China, USA will nuke Soviet) Hence, Soviet then not dare to nuke China

@@milokaw4193 thanks, I didn't know that

For real, Chinese actually warned the U.S

@Justin y’all dropped bombs on our factory saying it was a “mistake” multiple times and sent planes to take picture of our military bases yall expect us to just sit and do nothing?

That's a good one, hope he sees this

That's awesome.

The 115 YES IT MUST BE DONE

Poland*

YES MAKE IT HAPPEN

Girl? Friend? What are these things?

oh there unpredictable females who can be greedy gold diggers crippling you financially till you run dry and go for another.

Multiple universes would break

Blasphemy!

Ryan Mckenna Well thats a little far fetched isn't it, lets stay within the realm of possibility.

Usa and russia: *takes notes*

The power to annihilate an entire city in an instance is still too dangerous.

it would be but the problem is no working pure fusion bomb exists as its a very damn difficult prospect but there also is a bit a fallout, it lasts about 3 times less but has way more radiation than normal fallout

@@30cal23 If we can learn to store antimatter, then you can use a few micrograms of that to initiate a fusion weapon. But we don't have that tech yet.

No, because the main problem with nuclear bombs is not that they leave behind radiation. For example, under normal circumstances it takes around 2 days for 99% of the generated radiation to disappear. You actually have to make special "dirty" bombs in order to have massive long lasting radiation.

Ahmed Mustafa My god...

Ahmed Mustafa black hole

Ahmed Mustafa ww3

Ahmed Mustafa we wouldn't have made fun of him

CJ would have followed the damn train

no because we’d all be dead

@MrOverCritical1989 Then the soviets would have a reason to use nukes,and then we would all die.also i know this is an old comment

@MrOverCritical1989 Honestly, we would not die immediately, but by 2018 we would all be at best dead, at worst, living in a primal nightmare of winter, starvation and disease.

@@suggestiveguy they wouldn't use nukes because then USA could directly nuke russia. Big dumb dumb

Alt. univ. Cody: Hey its me again, today itll be another one of the Cody's campfire stories. Audience1: Is it another one of those alternate history things again ? Audience2: C'mon Cody, everytime its your turn you always go with this. Can't you tell something else ? Audience3: Dudes, be thankful that you CAN hear stories at the campfire like this. From tommorrow morning we will be moving through another one of the city ruins. Till we cross it, which might take a week or two we have to be constantly on our guard. That means no stories from tommorrow night. Thats why it is better you shut up and enjoy what you get. Cody: Yes, now listen, try to think what could've happened if that big nation...USA i think, would not have used that world ending bomb on that country...er, China probably. Audience2: Thats the thing that started all this ain't it ? But why would it matter? Such a dangerous thing would have led to ruins eventually anyway don't you think ? Cody: It might appear like that but think a bit harder. If that weapon wasn't used back then,...

Ya but it becomes a pyrrhic victory in a way. Cause it leads to WW3 and end of civilization.

Probably yes.

Nuke'em

Yes, along with Hungary

Warsaw Pact memebers could be nuclear test sites by this point

Daniel Awesome no fallout refe- oh wait your pfp

But the Chinese shot first...

@@xxheartbrokexx100 we must repay Alaska!

Cedric Crow It’s not that simple... I heard that if CCP did not enter the war, the USSR would, and meanwhile occupying the northeast of China, which was the most industrialized region at that time.

@@bigwhitesheep4451 Soviets did fight Japan for a brief period. For about a month. But USSR still got back some land Russian Empire lost in Russo-Japanese war.

Artemis lmfaoo 😭😭

Europe:- DUDE!!?

I read that last statement in torrette's guy's voice

Artemis Hahaha i dont get it.

Why? I don't. We would have known more about the impacts of nukes very soon after that, and I don't see it not going back to MAD for very obvious reasons here.

He was a little bit screwed in the head whenever he saw himself humiliated

Someone should have assassinated Truman and let McArthur gained approval. I seriously despised North Korea. Its a mockery that shouldn't even exist.

@@rogueascendant6611 now now, let not talk about assassinating anyone, north korea wasn't meant to exist, but I don't think by taking out Truman The consideration would have been revoked.

It'll be better if communism never existed

Also, tactical nukes are low yield where strategic are high yield

@@Stacknasty69 True. Though, (AFAIK) the former have never been used so far. Doing so would have far-reaching diplomatic consequences and possibly open a floodgate no one wants to ever see open. So it would make sense that, even if they are low yield, their launch would need approval from the government rather than being 100% a military decision.

Honestly an important distinction to make. Macarthur might not have been the most humble of men, nor the most reasonable, but the thinking surrounding nukes have changed quite a bit. For all the likes of macarthur was concerned, it was just another bomb, another cog to abuse in warfare. Now we have a different understanding, one that the atom bomb is more than just a tool. It's something that could end mankind.

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I’d play it

@@v4mp1anth3m4 me 2

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Francesco Azzoni This is amazing

"Our words are backed with nuclear bombs"

it's so true XD

all the ppl who watch this that don't play Civ are going to be so confused... :P

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Why?

I am also curious.

Probally cause of tensions in China and Korea

because there Covid outbreak is gonna kill more people than those nukes would have

and Russia says cyka blyat

SolarSunou we did that a few years ago didn't we Ukraine wasn't smart enough to cover its borders with lego bricks. So when we invade, boom dead.

@Wilhelm II. lol

I'm from Ukraine and i like it!

MacArthur: FUCKING NUKE THEM.

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I can do you one better I flattened japan by nuking every province at once

PylonBuffering A million people would suffer from depression.

We would be even dumber

PylonBuffering we will all be dead without Cody's sexy voice

Another channel would be.

PylonBuffering you wouldn't be here

Tym Avice lol, Fallout reference xD

Tym Avice XD

We'll never know for sure. But it's fun to theorize.

Tym Avice II

Interesting theory... Let me process that. ***Tactical asessement: red chinese victory... Impossible!***

Kim Jong The Choo Choo Train of Bel-Air then I'd probably be ded

plot twist,it was actually detroit.

While we cannot know for sure, I think that it would kill at least a couple dozen people living there.

would Detroit really be any different?

Well then the name of the place of the place would become a lot more accurate. Also Michigan in general would probably become a radioactive wasteland. So not much would change, in fact it'd be an improvement as it would help balance the federal budget somewhat. That effect might be counterbalanced by increased spending in healthcare for the surrounding states though.

Carolus Rex maybe a french or british hitler but definitely not as bad as the one we had

But there would be no democracies in Europe

(would have been pretty easy on Britain and France) nop certainly not

I said easier on Britain, not France. The US would try to protect Britain because of the close ties they had, even in the face of an vengeful Germany. France on the other hand, would get fucked just as hard as Germany did in our timeline.

+Carolus Rex but... if it wasn't for France America wouldn't have been here in the first place.

Wololo l how can china declare war on US when chinas in ruins? oh wait

+Biggie Cheese One problem with that assumption - as previously stated, the nukes would have been used tactically rather than destructively. The targets would be along the Chinese/North Korean border, only a small fraction of China. There would be plenty of China left to declare war afterwards.

you got instantly nuked by china and earth is doomed.

You know what NATO is? That is why russia would nuke europe, they are what's the closest danger.

It was right after world war 2 Europe was still pretty much in ruins and American military was basically in control especially Germany and France

Cisco Blue good question

Lin Manuel Miranda couldn't have written "one last time"

assassin's creed?

Cisco Blue in reality that would never happen, mainly because the Americans didn't want another monarchy. The phrase "No taxation without representation" perfectly illiterates the reason as to why that would never have possibility to happen, because the people wanted to be represented and not be forced to follow a single person

It would be made into DLC for Assassin's Creed

LuckyTuxRBLX That's worse than a nuke

LuckyTuxRBLX ｃｙｋａ　ｂｌｙａｔ

That is such a savage thing to say, when I did that the hospital was full of reporters who wanted to hear my story XD

Bill Anderson id say its a tie

LuckyTuxRBLX thats what im gonna say for now on

Roman Snow that is a fantastic reference, well done my friend

Roman Snow Stimulate your senses.

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The_SkyDragons but their is only 7 bil people also not everyone in china lives in beijing

@@genericname5909 he meant 10 million

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AlphaChocolateTruffle (USING 55 YEAR OLD TANKS INTENSIFIES)

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AlphaChocolateTruffle (SOVIET UNIFORMS INTENSIFIE)

I know this is a joke, but both USSR and the western allies started cold war. Just saying.

What if you were elected president of Colombia?

What if you spelled Colombia correctly?

Or maybe he meant the State of Washington, that was formerly named Columbia

Hell he basically was for a while.

Your spelling of Colombia just triggered me, please don't mispell it anymore.

Justin Widle yes 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Do you have a geiger counter?

Alternative history.....has changed.

I just want to start a flame in your heart

I don't want to *set* the world on fire I want to watch it *burn*

lol

i only want to tear it apart

Actually, if there is no fire in the area of a nuke, i believe it's not going to be on fire. Nukes just have the massive pressure inside of a bomb the size of a couch. No fire included, just HUGE HUGE pressure

Man is Man How appropriate.

Man is Man what is U.S. fucked China lmao

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Mart kenyon In a way, America and the USSR wouldn’t be the biggest enemies. China and the USSR would be, since they share borders.

Then China will be like India right now. Like, I hate both of them, however, it was indeed the communist China that really bonds people together at that time, at people really trusted them. The communist is egregious after WW2, so what I want to state is that both of them are assholes, that's why I like the concept of Capitalism better. Just keep in mind that there were two slightly different generations of Nationalists, therefore their concepts alter, and the new one is much much worse. Judging from that, I still prefer the government people get right now, as it won't last any longer, not more than 30 years. Still, I don't want China to become India.

My PC glitches a lot, so there are a few typos as I didn't get the chance to correct them.

You'd be able to say this "天安门广场大屠杀" without the cops kicking in your door, and shutting off your internet.

@@jess8847 A genuine question, why do you hate both India and China?

Viet_balla We would probably be on Mars already by now.

Lord Beerus Eh probably not. It was the conflict that was driving the space race. We were going to send astronauts to the Mars, but then the USSR collapsed so a pin was put in that.

it almost happened but since JFK was assasinated, Khrushchev didn't trust Johnson and the deal was broken

Viet_balla That's almost what happened. A lot of projects like the ISS are collaborations.

the ISS was launched in 1998, well after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Yeah, that sounds more plausible.

This could potentially lead to the Soviet Union winning the cold war, as more countries in Latin America and Africa would allying with the Soviet Union

ohh... nice move, Stalin would have seen the chance to swing the pendulum against us and would have taken it whole heartedly.

That's unrealistic. First off, the UN doesn't have power over jack shit and nobody cares. Second, the balance of power in the UN wouldn't change in the slightest as all the countries that side with the US would never side with the USSR no matter what the US does because they need the US to protect them from gommunism, and all the countries that side with the USSR would always side with the USSR. Worst case scenario it sparks a gommunist revolution in France that's quickly supprssed by the military. You're assuming that the politicians in the UN actually have any morals. They don't, they never did, they just use moral-sounding excuses to do what benefits them in the long run. And after that kind of show of force by the US, especially in a time when the USSR didn't have that kind of raw power yet, it would benefit absolutely none of the US allies to distance themselves or to stop siding with the US in the UN. World politics is much less about morals and image than it is about interests and profiteering. It's much easier to do what you know is in your interests and then trying to justify that as moral through propaganda among your populous than it is to do what would actually be the moral, ethical thing, because in the end of the day people care much less about morality and ethics than they do about self preservation, which is entirely reasonable since ethics and morals is shit we made up and doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

Well that's true that communism was a threat, but what was a bigger threat was "gommunism"! Communism's more sadistic brother. Founded by Gollum in the pursuit of total equality and to find "The Precious". It was said that Franco's Fascist Spain was still fighting gommunism up until the 1970's.

@Chet Ripley turtledove.fandom.com/wiki/The_Hot_War

Its not really fallout tbh

It didn't take long either to make the bombs bigger. 10 years and they were already too big. The what if's and the atomic scare were more than a mere scare but an inevitability. Another war and more technological leaps and Starship Troopers Mecha robo-suits with automatic nuclear machine guns woulda been real. The Death Star was already dreamed up by the Nazis in WWII just think what we would have in WWIII.

Negative because Russia would have nuked us

@@kirkmcdirt3803 Cowardly acts by piece of tvrd CCP Pig eat bat thief of asia by Mr. Weiner The Poo

Yeah better without humans

@@tidaltidaltidal This is why nobody takes America seriously

​@@kirkmcdirt3803They couldn't hit us in 1951.

that sounds like good idea

From what I understand, China warned the US about crossing the border. UN forces simply got "relatively close" (my words) to the border. I'd liken it to someone saying "don't punch me or I'll fuck you up" and you swinging at him but stopping a few inches from their face and they just fucking deck you in the face.

Stefan Ivanovski Then how illegal is the Cuban blockade? Cuba isn't even actually boardering the US and the US itself had already built missiles in Afghanistan against the Soviets, and yet the US made such a big deal out of it. How legal is that?

@@papel6280 well dumbass they are 90 miles away and u literally look over to come from key west

@@papel6280 Do you mean the ones in Turkey that the US quietly removed after the crisis?

Legitpenguins69 I’d say it’s more along the lines of them warning you about punching them, you flip them off and then they deck the fuck out of you. Because China doesn’t give a fuck whether or not you actually did anything to them.

Good topic. But it's not really "alternative" or "history"

Isaiah Gordon not "hub either"

Massive refugee crisis , warlords and loose WMDs

John O'Malley probably be taken over by China

it won't.

Nope Russia would have nuked us

@@kirkmcdirt3803 Cowardly acts by piece of tvrd CCP Pig eat bat thief of asia by Mr. Weiner The Poo

@@tidaltidaltidal there’s only one way to deal with the ccp: KILL.

@@oliveralibi7949 America have had lots of practice with that in Afghanistan. Most of them were afghan citizens but who cares?

​@@kirkmcdirt3803The Soviets were unable to hit the US in 1951. Even if they could, they had six warheads; we had more than that, and could effectively reduce the Soviets to radioactive rubble with few or even no consequences.

Nuking China *gone wrong*

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What if the Baltic states all started fighting against the USSR instead of being annexed?

I don't know about "won." Survived maybe

north would win, America gave south Korea little (in terms of weapons) So they didn't stand much of a chance against the soviet armed north.

Magni56 the North Koreans got guns and tanks from china and ussr. That's why they were more prepared

jiman kim So every one would die from swamps?

I LOVE YOU exactamundo

South korea would be one giant labour camp

Australia sent 2282 soliders to Korea, 339 dead , 1216 wounded , 43 missing , 26 captured.

Needed a Kiwi as well though.

I'm not too sure about the Korean war but I think Aussie's did better than the US in terms of numbers. I don't know, but I know that's for certain regarding the Vietnam war.

Agreed.

BestAverageGaming Do you mean in terms of casualties or personnel sent to the conflict?

Hahaha A Much larger Sea than the one on Commonwealth 😂

"Nuclear inspection, what a joke."

Yeah, but is because the atomic bomb was and still is an infamous weapon. Is crazy, but is even crazier that we still have relative peace precisely because the nukes are infamous weapons. (watch alternatehistoryhub video about what if nuclear weapons never existed)

+EPKingMaster Wrong, you didn't saw how broken inside at taiwan. They have be struggle with everything to keep themselves afloat form total bankurpt for decades because of internal corruption.

Wrong, if china split into serveal parts after the civil war, USSR would invade south destory the parts one by one, and took all of asia after whole china were annexed , and then they will be unstoppable.

Saviliana While the rest of the world does...nothing?

Grass Brassington YES PLEASE

KMT lost the war against communist due to heavy corruption. They used the war tax money to build villas for themselves, which is the one of the main reason US didn't want give too much support to the KMT. And after US's failure to get rid of communism out of China, US learned from its mistakes and began to fully support any regime from any country that is anticommunist despite their corrupted nature. For instance Iran, Libya, Chile, Vietnam,Korea and etc. Even if KMT won the war despite with heavy corruption. At best the situation would be like South Korea. At worse it would be like Africa or middle east. Not to mention Taiwan faced serious corruption and white terror after the civil war, and the first election only occurred in 1996.

Gregory Gwynn yes !!!

Gregory Gwynn THIS

*Held off the arab invasions

Yes, this is a good idea. I feel the Byzantine empire is neglected a fair amount in history.

they didn't fall to the Arabs

That was never really a plan in McArthur’s eyes, but similar to the scenario in the video, would result in the Soviets also seeing it as a viable tactic, and much of Europe would probably be hit by nukes

@@nickrhymeswith4302 how would Russia deliver the nukes? How many nukes in Russian inventory then? Stalin was not going to risk nuclear war over north Korea and china. Remember the USSR was still recovering and rebuilding from ww2 then. MacArthur was right. Thanks HAT for nothing. Now we have both a nuke armed communist China and north Korea that can hit the USA with nukes. I am 60 and a long retired InFantry officer. I have had a good life. I fear for my children and grandchildren about the spectre of Nork and Chinese nuke striking us now.

@@paratrooper629 The point isn't that Stalin would immediately retaliate with nukes of his own. However, it sets the precedent that these are perfectly fine weapons to use, which means that at SOME POINT the Soviets would drop their own.

@@nickrhymeswith4302 decisive action plus increasing bomb and delivery and armory action would have deterred stalin. Remember despite every thing he will not risk the eventual destruction of the ussr.

@@paratrooper629 1. The Soviets wouldn't directly nuke America, however, they would definitely nuke American allies if they fought. Plus, you seem to be arguing that using nuclear weapons on civilian cities because of civil wars is a good tactic

The US planned to strike Chinese territory. Radiation doesn't travel more than a few meters by itself and an atomic bomb doesn't carry enough radioactive material to cause a Chernobyl scenario. There would have been lots of deformed Chinese babies (if anyone even survived 50 nukes going off so close to each other), but the Koreans would have been fine.

Well, there will be chinese super mutants. ;)

Meh! Screw Europe, Go 'Murica! We elected Trump for a reason! Anyways, the year 1955 was the most realistic year that multiple sources could confirm the stockpile numbers. One source however does claim the USSR arsenal was a puny 15 RDS-1 bombs in March, 1951. So it is possible that USSR forces could not fulfill M.A.D., much less could they actually deploy a bomb over North America. It is also worth noting a different source says that in 1950 the US had 299 nukes, and Russia only 5. As you said it yourself "200 nukes is still enough to destroy every major city..." As for soviet conventional forces, if the west could get the first nuclear strike, it would leave the already man-power weakened Soviet army (From WWII) in disarray, allowing "better off" European forces to likely make territorial gains after an initial co-ordinated soviet attack. If the carpet bombing is successful, then Soviet military leadership would be near non-existent, and soviet arms replenishing would be crippled, if not, then impossibly doomed. Soviet nukes could still be deployed, but on an extremely small relative scale, and only against Europe. The longer the U.S. would wait, the more damage the USSR could do. Thinking of it now, soviet diplomacy would most likely just "bluff," and make the U.S. think it had more nukes than it actually did. Alternate history is really fun! But you are right. The United States would never unload its stockpile, but because of social, economic. and political reasons. But "It's fun to Theorize!"

The problem was that Russia really didnt have a long range strategic bomber capable of hitting U.S. cities. Alaska might get hit but there really isnt that much there to begin with. western Europe would get hit a few times. Aswell as South Korea and Japan. But if America intiated the war with multiple nuclear strikes and chinas and the soviets major cities and bases then it would be logisticly hard for them to drop nukes of their own.

If America never left Europe and continued on with their armies. After Japan then Moscow? Before the nuclear secrets were stolen, just keep fighting till communism is defeated? Then Russia and China would be competing much earlier and Japan and Korean might never of became what they are today. Samsung and my hentai all gone. What a boring future that would be. :(

Ansury Sayer That's what operation unthinkable was. Go to war with the soviets the minute after Riech falls. This plan was supported by General George S. Patton. You still have to remember that atomic weapons were a closely held secret by the U.S . government, until their international debuts in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The soviets wouldn't get their own bomb until 1949. Most importantly; as soon as the soviets had a nuke, America would have the perfect excuse to ramp up production. The US also needed to prepare defenses against said nukes. This is why you see so many civil defense programs, like the famous Bert the Turtle. (which first appeared in Jan. 1952, and lasted even throughout the Cuban Missile Crisis.) The main differences of Unthinkable and this scenario is A: soviet moral immediately after WWII, which was extremely high, and B: Production limitations. By production limitations, I mean the secrecy of the Manhattan project. If workers knew what they were making it would've likely lead to ethical resistance even before bombs were built. Builders of Little Boy and Fat Man didn't even know they were building a bomb, and were told lies ranging anywhere from making paperclips to toatsters, to God knows what! The truth is the U.S. didn't need to build bombs after WWII, until the soviets started the arms race with their own bomb. The cycle we see here is "America won't make nukes until the soviets can" and "The soviets need to develop a nuke before East vs. West tensions would arise." In conclusion; Directly after WWII there simply would not be enough bombs to destroy the USSR before their conventional army does major damage to Europe.

Russia may have had more men and more tanks. But you are forgeting that America had some of the best aircraft and pilots by the end of the war. That on top of superior numbers of said aircraft. Meant air supremacy would go to the U.S. and its allies though the struggle to get it would be costly. Which means the U.S. could use nukes. But only on the Eastern and Western fronts. As it would be to difficult to hit Moscow with the bombers of the time. But If the U.S. was willing to put the morals to the side like we did with japan. Then we wouldnt get bogged down in long drawn out sieges like leningrad or stalingrad. Just push the front untill we got close then nuke the city and push on. You also have to relize that american troops were far better trained and equiped then the russian army. The Germans still used bolt action rifles when they invaded and they got pretty far. America had semiauto rifles in mass production. As well as larger caliber submachine guns, pistols, and non-crew served LMGs. The only problem the russians would give us is tanks. As the soviet tanks were better and they had more of them.But America would still have air supremacy. So the soviets wouldnt be able to attack in mass tank formations without taking heavy loses. I fell as if the war would be held in a deadlock untill America could produce a tank that could rival the soviets. WHich could happen fast since the allies got almost all the German scientists after the war. And would have even more since we were fighting the Germans greatest enemy. The war would be long and costly maybe even longer and worse then the second world war. But I believe unless the Soviets stole our nuclear secrets like they did in our timeline america would win.

We would never come back from it, it would pretty much be the extinction of mankind. Fallout is better since you have radaway going for you. No such thin in real life.

Actually nuclear war isnt as bad as most media would make it seem. radation from madern nuclear weapons actually has a really short half life. You would be able to go out side without a gas mask or protctive suit in a matter of months. As long as you werent close (a few miles) from the impact sight. Most people living in major cities or near military bases would be dead yes. But after that not much else. The real problem comes from nuclear winter. All of the shit thrown into the sky would lower the global temp by a lot. And most animals and plants would die out from the initial radiation. If you were in africa or south america you would probable survive. But more then likely you would survive in a world with a destroyed economy and no goverment.

Fenrirthewolf Nukes are still really shit. Stop trying to sugar-coat it.

I agree Nuclear weapons are bad. I mean they keep us from having world war 3 and I've been waiting for that since I joined the Army. I'm just being factual that nuclear war doesnt mean the death of all of us. Just most of us.

Fenrirthewolf 99.99% of us

PyroA he did a video like that already

No. That is different.

Ya

MacArthur is no hero. His father/grand father was General MacArthur presiding over American atrocities in the Philippines 1899. They slaughtered whole villages that would make My Lai blush. The family has a history of being blood thirsty towards the people of Asia