What If Appeasement Never Ended? 

The narration was an experiment, do let me know what you thought!

"I want that thing." Germany said, calmly.

Germany requests the entire universe, France and Britain decide it's reasonable because there is more Germans to be appeased in space.

Bro you need to continue the ww1 central powers victory series it's so damn interesting

What if the German revolution succeeded while the Russian (October) revolution failed?

6:02 hearing the British celebrate about a German victory in the 1940s is the most cursed thing ever😭😭😭💀💀💀

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I think Japan would have attacked the USSR. With their allies diverting Russia's attention, they could easily take large swathes of resource rich territory. I don't know if it was known to be resource rich at the time, but I still think they would do it.

"Come on guys, trust me! It will be his last demand!"

What if everything went perfect for Monarchist Italy?

There was a huge debate to attack the western colonies or the Soviets in Japan at the time. I would very much assume that in a situation where Japan is still trading with the west and the Soviets are getting shit kicked by the Germans, they’d be far more likely to attack outer Manchuria and eastern Siberia. I doubt they attack the western colonies yet when the Soviets are in such a compromised position.

You forget that unlike in our timeline Stalin probably would not be trusting the Germans nearly as much here and would not have massive parts of the Soviet armies be encircled at the start of the war.

This video is extremely unrealistic for several reasons: 1) If Britain didn't guarantee to intervene militarily against Germany, POLAND AND GERMANY WOULD NOT HAVE GONE TO WAR. Poland would cede Danzig, and the Germans might have used the opportunity to seize parts of the Polish Corridor. However, the Germans would be careful to not instigate a larger conflict with Poland. So, there would be no Soviet invasion of Poland, no Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and no occupation of Poland at large. 2) Germany wanted Poland as a buffer state and potential ally against communism, which both the Germans and Poles viewed as a Jewish power. After Poland ceded Danzig, Germany would attempt to bring Poland into their alliance. 3) The Western Allies did not care about Finland to the extent that the civilian populations of America, France and Britain did. Churchill would not have given much aid to Finland, and even if they did, no amount of aid would have led to a Finnish victory. Finland was too far away, while it was also right on the Russian border. 4) There was most likely going to be a war with the USSR, so this part is correct. However, given that there was no western support in this timeline, a political collapse of the USSR is much more likely, rather than a military collapse. 5) This video makes a massive error with suggesting that a post-War Germany would be economically weak with the potential for dissent and collapse. For a historical example, the USSR was nearly destroyed by WW2, had lost tens of millions of people, and was a multi-ethnic empire. Despite this, it took 5 decades of western sanction, proxy conflicts, and propaganda for the USSR to collapse. Germany would have none of these problems. It would be a homogenous German nation, it would have lost only a few million people with the civilian population mostly unaffected, would have plenty of access to food, and would have an extremely popular and efficient government.

Just watched my older video on this topic. I'm glad I was able to figure some stuff out, but looking back at it, my ending was very bad. I agree with your interpretation way more. Keep uploading, so I can keep learning!

There’s many parts in this scenario that I find issue, chiefly with Germany and the USSR. But first, Stalin wasn’t ever going to give up on Finland, his paranoia drove the war due to issues of the proximity of Leningrad to Finland and Finland being used as a staging post, this actually happening with British and French forces would only increase this. At minimum Stalin isn’t giving up until he gets something from Finland and Finland, no matter how much support just can’t beat the USSR, there is only so much a tiny nation of a few million can do against something 20x it’s size. Even if it’s only a tiny strip of the mannerheim he will not stop until he gets it. Secondly, I doubt the idea that Germany would perform better in Barbarossa ittl than otl, by 1940 the German economy was completely broke they were utterly dependent on looting other countries just to keep functioning. These countries were primarily western, Hitler hoped to take from the east but the utter devastation meant that this just never happened, pretty much all the way until ‘45. Two, with peace in the west there really isn’t a way for Stalin to ignore reality about the Germans, 90% of German success was due to soviet incompetence and while the purges were a decent portion of that by far it was the fault of Stalin with warning a lot of the problems that came with this just don’t exist. The primary one being there are much fewer encirclements, and secondly that Soviet industry evacuates east much quicker than OTL, tbh I don’t understand how this would go worse ittl than otl, and that much of the Soviet airforce survives. Obviously the Soviet airforce is much inferior to the Germans but they are in a much better position to equalise and crucially aren’t so dependent on lend lease. No Lend lease in Barbarossa wouldn’t have much effect as lend lease wouldn’t really pick up until 42 Not to say that the USSR would curbstomp Germany, I’d imagine the initial push into the USSR achieves fewer gains than otl and the Soviet counterattack is worse, and then the Germans have much better success pushing into the caucuses but this doesn’t really get them anything, everything is still extremely scorched earth. Things are going worse for the Soviets but that doesn’t mean that the Germans are better off. But, as things go forward, the German army would eventually grind down the USSR without lend lease from the USA maybe even push them back to the Urals, but the idea that Eastern Europe is just going to ‘give in’ doesn’t make sense. Without distractions in the west and Germany being even more dependent off looting everything not nailed down it’s abundantly clear to everyone that this is literally victory or death anyone willing to give in would be quickly ‘gotten rid of’. And even if Soviet military capabilities, or whichever state replaces them, is ground down to where they can only do low intensity conflict Germany stills falls apart within the decade. A tiny nation of 60 million which has already lost millions of their best soldiers simply can’t occupy that much territory even if the populace wasn’t trying to kill them at every turn. As Germany begins to waste resources implementing their delusional Eastern European plans, which they have even less of without the money taken from the rich west, things begin to fall apart, there isn’t enough money to pay everyone, run the factories, and garrison the money sink of Eastern Europe, especially with the likelihood of western sanctions for things like the Holocaust which the Allies did in fact know about. likely things crumble on until 48 or 49 where everything falls apart at once revolts happen all over EE and whatever Uralian rump state sweeps in to the rest of Eastern Europe, the military coups the nsdap and either invites the west in for whatever good terms they can get, or just keeps falling apart until the west just walks in to minimal German resistance and whatever territory they still have left in Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, etc.

honestly, if we look on the 1930's German economy that relying heavily on MEFO bills and territorial conquest, their economy is vulnerable. Hitler wanted to go to war with the Czech because he knew, his economic plan is not viable in long term peace time to fuel his unreasonable ambition. if the apeasement continue, which will not followed by the subject of the appeasement itself (Poland, Balkan Nation, Baltic nation, etc), considering all the nation surrounding Germany has already seen the fate of the Austrian and Czech, wich lead to early war that the German not prepared, and with this, I expect German economy will crumble faster, and Hitler popularity will not as high as in our timeline.

Germany: I want London Britain: Okay but final conquest

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What if Edward Wood, 1st Earl of Halifax had accepted the British premiership? (as opposed to it going to Churchill)

I think that another interesting scenario would be: What if Poland joins the axis?

1:14 As a Pole, I say that Poland would probably side with the Germans in the war against Czechoslovakia and the Allies if the USSR tried to send a land army to Czechoslovakia, but if the Soviets had not joined the war, we would probably have been neutral until we accepted territorial offers from the Germans or from the allies just like the Italians during World War I, however, if the USSR joined the war to help Czechoslovakia, we would have to fight shoulder to shoulder with the Germans against the Soviets, because the Soviets' entry into Poland would end with Poland entering the Soviet zone.

What if history went perfect for Poland?

I strongly believe that the German Economy (if they really focus on that department) can easily switch up from Military Technology and Weapons to more Industrialized and Economical Helping Areas. Weve seen it happening in our timeline with a much smaller and more reliant Germany so why not.

It's a big stretch that USSR would achieve nothing in Finland and just collapse against Germany.

Can you make a "What if everything went PERFECT for Japan" video?

I was surprised by the opening 🗿

You need to keep this series going! This could be really interesting!

Well, this timeline excludes one, very important factor: british urge for balancing continental powers. Sooner or later, Germany would challenge UK and this is unacceptable, brits knew, that the painter have to be stopped and french army, if given enough time, would be prepared for that. Poland was only a casus belli, but in scale of great game, british-german conflict would be unavoidable and thus - described scenario unrealistic.

The opening was so cool ! Amazing 😊😊😊😊😊

Someone needs to make a hoi4 mod for this

1:14 Poland would probably join the war on the side of Germany. Polish-czechoslovakian relationship were absolutely horrible at that time because of Zaolize. Poland was one of the countries that carved up Czechoslovakia during the Munich crisis and many polish politicians adored Hitler

Czechia was not annexed, they where vassalized as the former leader of Czechoslovakia now just Czechia as Slovakia basically considered themselves independent (until Hungary made moves against them) was desperate for protection and Hitler was the only one willing to provide it on the condition that former Austrian industry was returned to Germany.

Do a video on: "Was WW2 overall good or bad for the USSR"? WW2 caused: enormous death toll of the country a ton of land gained once the war was over basically ownership of half of germany, poland, all of romania and hugnary a good grip on an international scale a lot of destruction of the country animosity between the communists and the west Was it overall good or bad for ussr?

Brilliant video, would love a Part 2!!! Appeasement ought to have either never been done, or else followed to its logical conclusion. Defending Czechoslovakia made far more sense than declaring war over Poland's invasion and then doing nothing about it.

Acting like the allies were not aware of german crimes against humanity Is a good joke

What if Eastern Rome was able to resist the Rashidun Califate and keep the levant & Egypt?

the good old general patton “we fought the wrong enemy” timeline

What if everything went perfect for Spain? (I think this would be most interesting if you start at the war of Spanish Succession)

Amazing I will definitely use this as one of my scenairos!

can i ask Possible History what about the last poll you did on the versailles peace treaty it's a was month already?

Great video! I really like the narration!

Here's one for you, what if Operation Valkyrie had succeeded?

I think the axis would divide Yugoslavia before invading the USSR if they saw the West were not intervening, bringing Bulgaria into the alliance in the process

Consideration that the soviet union would definitely be ready for that kind of invasion . Soviet officers where not stupid and unlike our timeline that Stalin hold back the soviet army at the start in fear of getting bad diplomatic with Germany, we could definitely expect a great stall at the start of the war since the whole soviet army would be waiting for the germans and not sitting still like they were in our timeline ,their airforce wouldn't be easily destroyed in the airfields. We could definitely expect some germans advance after 6 months of war. But to expect german war machine to do better is just unrealistic even without allied bombings. We could totally expect some allied help to the Soviets ,since western powers even do didn't like the communists the didn't like the idea of a Continental nazy Germany. My best guess would be that white peace after a war more grinding than our Soviet-german war of our timeline . With perhaps the a coup from the army and a early break of the soviet union.

why is that voice so distort n low-quality? also bravo to whoever use the low-quality mic for our entertainment

What if everything went perfect for Poland???

It's weird Japan wouldn't take advantage of the crumbling situation with the Soviets to score Siberia and improve their image in the eyes of the West

7:38 Disagree on that. The Japanese mostly attacked becauce of the Oil embargo. Which was in Place because of Anexion of French Indo China. Oil Embargo wouldn`t hapen in this Timeline. After the first defeats of the Soviets, Japan would attack the Soviet Union.

Allies be like "we did it, we saved poland!" and then give them to a worse dictator, lol.

What people tend to forget and also don't like to mention because they don't want anything positive to be said about the big moustache man is that Germany's case for a lot of the things they requested wasn't really unjustified. I think this is really important when talking about appeasement. People always talk about Austria-hungaries instability and how it wasn't really right for the Austrian empire to be so overextended with other nationalities but Yugoslavia and chzechoslovakia were basically just mini Austria Hungary's. Chzechoslovakian identity didn't even exist before the creation of that state and was only created as a counter balance to the fact that Germans were so numerous in chzechoslovakia they needed a majority that was sizable enough to keep the germans in check. To give you an example.more Germans lived in chzechoslovakia then slovaks with most of them living in majority areas. Same goes for Ukrainians, poles , hungarians and slovaks. All of these areas didn't actually want to be part of chzechoslovakia. Just after ww1 the Austrian republic was born which included all sudeten territories and immediately tried to join the weimar republic but was forbidden from doing so. Then the sudeten territories were ripped from the Austrian republic and given to chzechoslovakia. They were promised certain rights they never got in the end. The germans of chzechoslovakia genuinely wanted to join Germany but chzechoslovakia wouldn't have it and suppressed all political activity and the germans pretty much themselves. They even put forward a bill which I don't remember which was about German rights in chzechoslovakia (political and otherwise) that was actually rejected by the chzechoslovakian state. I genuinely think it wasn't unreasonable at all for Germany to demand these territories as the people themselves wanted to join Germany. But after the Munich agreement the other minorities in chzechoslovakia wanted to join their respective nations as well and the country crumbled in on itself. Germany took advantage of it and made some chzechoslovakian government officials sign for Germany to "stabilise the region" and make a protectorate while dividing the other areas to the other nations like Hungary for example.

Great video as always I like narration you added and wish to see this in future videos

Remember if the allies are at peace with germany they can send supplies through the baltic with impunity, the main issue with it was it would be attacked in the baltic especially if it was the soviets and germans at once but with only the soviets it should be manageable

This is like a really weird version of TNO and TWR.

Would love to see a continuation of this. The alternate Cold War sounds fascinating

war with finland would not have happend because stalin backed on the idea that the alais were distracted by the war with germany

There should be a continuation to this ngl.

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could you please continue this scenario into the cold war?

The vintage narrator sounds perfect. Good job!

@Possible History What if the sudentenland was given to Germany in the Munich argeement but it was declared a demilitarised zone for the German army with the Czech army still allowed to deploy there. Ie it was only a civilian transfer and the military borders remained the same?

If it continued. Germany and the USSR would split up the rest of Eastern Europe. Germany would still prepare to invade the USSR while warning the UK and France not to intervene.

I got jumpscared at the begining

What if the constantinople conference was accepted and the 1877 russo turkish war doesn't happen?

When will the video about the viewers deciding the borders of post ww1 be released?

Oh jesus christ no, this looks like it's going to be painful...

Maybe a longer: what if Czechoslovakia didn't concede to the German demands

I though hitler will be kinda " i want that thing" and the british where like "no you cant have it (hitler slowly grab the thing) uuuuhhh fine you can have that thing " and then hitler saw another country and say say " i want that thing" and then the cycle keep repeating untill hitler,s empire spand from belgium to vladivostok and then one night hitler siting in the balcony of his palace in germania city enjoying the beautifull night sky and he was like "you know what we have pleased ourself with all of these conquered teritories i believe we need to chill of the conquest but that moon looks very beautifull i wonder if i can conquer it" and then hitler call his assistance" call that von braun guy i heard all his prowes in rocket technology he could help us in this devinetly last conquest"

You got the Japan section completely wrong. While the Japanese navy wanted south-east Asia, the Japanese army wanted Siberia and with a crumbling Soviet regime there's no doubt the latter would have won the internal power struggle and Japan would have gone north-west instead of attacking the Allies.

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Did you change your mic settings?

Hitlie successor would be Speer(TNO REFERENCE)

The reason for Indian independence was British desire to reduce the costs from their colonies, because of devastation from the way and increased costs from the NHS. Why, in this scenario where neither are likely, does India gain independence?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure the Allies were completely aware of Germany's Crimes. They just didn't care or didn't wanted to cause a conflict over that

When late medieval/early modern empire video coming?

Guess there won't be any more Polish people in this timeline, with other minorities also being decimated. A very dark timeline. The only thing I could maybe see going different is the Soviets simply throwing more men into Finland to win, since Finland couldn't hold forever (though with horrific casualties), and them maybe holding territories east of the urals post war. An American puppet might even be still established if Japan had occupied those territories.

i love how this is just tno but the allies are unaffected and the japanese are crushed

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Only main issue I have with this is the absence of a world map. I’d assume the Germans stop at the Ural Mountains though

When's the next viewer poll video?

i REALLY want a part 2 to this

Thousand week Reich in a nutshell

This timeline sound so much better than the current, everyone wanted the USSR to go anyway so this was a good thing

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In the setting the Japanese wouldn't have to strike at the west for oil while USSR is in complete decay. They would have strike north

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when things go well

Had Germany formed an alliance with Poland to attack the USSR, the West would have likely fortified their borders but otherwise stayed out of the conflict. Where you went 'wrong' was your assessment of the Japanese strategy. Imperial Japan already held Korea, Manchuria, part of Mongolia, Taiwan and the most industrialised centres in China. Their navy and army fought amongst themselves for resources, and as their invasion of China had stalled and the USSR had defeated them at Khalkhin Gol, the navy decided on taking S.E. Asia (and war with the Western Powers). Had Britain and France not declared war on Germany, and Germany's invasion of the USSR weakening the Soviets in the Far East, I think Japan would have devoted all energy to their army, seizing perhaps all the Soviet territory to the Urals. I'm not sure that the West would have been strong enough if that world had come to be.

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What if the Entente powers won WW1 please!

Bro's mic quality dropped in the start faster than weimar's economy

Please make a video on What if the Ottomans were Christian.

Reminds me of an idea I had for a Scenario I called The War that Came Late. Basically the War started in the Mid 40s as an excuse to play with late and post war toys. Bit ASB, but I had fun with it.

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I think Japan would strike Russia rather than western countries, importing oil from Germany and its allies as they don’t have to deal with the royal and American navies

Another amazing video

*Germany successfully invades the Soviet union* Britain and France: alright ok man just don’t do anything else

If the Soviet Union was destroyed by Germany the Japanese would’ve gone to war with them instead or at least siezed the coastline

Maybe I'm the only one who didn't like them, but I found those old-timey radio announcements very cringe inducing. Apart from that, good video and cool scenario though.

what if everything went perfectly for the lithuanians? (starting from king mindaugas and going up to the union of lublin. how different it could have been, if it was without the polish)

Was this video inspired by that one post on r/imaginarymaps