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What if Britain surrendered in 1940/the Mongols conquered Europe - Viewer Scenario Contest 

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Welcome to the first ever Possible History Viewer Scenario Contest! We have 21 scenario's which will go head to head in the upcoming weeks, with the deciding vote coming from the viewers! In this first episode we have Betelgeuse "What if Britain surrendered" 0:35 and Nurali Bolateav "What if the Mongols invaded Europe 11:05.
The first scenario focusses on a world where Britain surrenders. How does the second world war evolve over time without Britain and America fighting the Germans. How does the German-Soviet war go, how does Japan fare, who dominated the Cold War. Watch to find out!
The second scenario deals with how Europe might have turned out if the Mongols came in and overran most of Europe, leaving only Iberia, Scandinavia and the British Isles as independent states.
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@possiblehistory
@possiblehistory Год назад
Please leave a like, comment what your favourite scenario was, or just comment "hi", as these things ds wonders for the algorithm! To see more press subscribe, new alternate history content every Friday!
@Maxzes_
@Maxzes_ 8 месяцев назад
I’ve never seen anyone who pronounced the t in castle
@gavarrmm
@gavarrmm Месяц назад
Hi!
@mghia0189
@mghia0189 Год назад
Possibly History. Your viewer count is low but don’t let that discourage you. Your content is amazing and keep up the good work!
@JustinianG
@JustinianG Год назад
can u check out my channel? I think my vids are good but I have a low view count can you tell me if I deserve more or less views?
@guycrew3973
@guycrew3973 3 месяца назад
Not low anymore
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 2 месяца назад
This comment aged well
@blueteamepsilon7798
@blueteamepsilon7798 6 месяцев назад
In the Mongol scenario, I think Italy would have survived. Historically, the Mongols had an extremely difficult time fighting in mountains and in warm humid environments like India and the Mediterranean coast.
@antoniomariamacri7500
@antoniomariamacri7500 Год назад
Isn't the first one literally Thousand Weeks Reich?
@clarkstrange2142
@clarkstrange2142 7 месяцев назад
It’s almost identical. I just see NAUT instead of Toronto Accord
@benjaminobienu5297
@benjaminobienu5297 Год назад
Mr. Possible History. This is a fantastic viewer contest video about what if Britain surrendered in 1940 and the Mongols conquered Europe. The first video is more realistic about how Britain offered in 1940, leaving Hilter in power throughout the decades. And he kicked the bucket; Germany would still collapse because the war industry and the government were based on propaganda, and the military had high command with no experience in economics or politics. I think Germany will still become a republic with the Nazis out of power and could try to rebuild relationships with other European countries. The second is kind of a great but terrifying concept for Mongols to invade much further into Europe by them sieging Vienna by conquering the Holy Roman Empire and France along with Poland. I'm surprised England, the Liberian nations, and the Scandinavian countries survived the Mongol conquest. This would be an exciting scenario for a future video about this topic, and I could imagine if the English might be able to colonize some parts of Europe and abe annex what's left of France. The Scandinavian nations could even form their own empires in a decimated Europe,e and I believe the English could colonize much of Europe due to no competition. There could be an earlier British Empire in Europe with many English settlements in those decimated places. This is a fantastic video, PH; even though you have few likes but do not like that discourage you. Just remember, always try your best, think of the positive outcome, and keep up the excellent job you're doing!!
@crazmapping
@crazmapping Год назад
My personal fave was the first one, I want to do a scenario on my own channel on What if WWII Never Happened. I'm really excited to see the rest of the scenarios though, your channel's great. The first one has some parallels to TNO: Last Days of Europe (the HOI4 mod) with the German Civil War I noticed
@Betelgeuse1320
@Betelgeuse1320 Год назад
oh yeah, that's generally assumed as one of the most likely things to happen if germany were to win the war. but i personally don't think a civil war would ever happen, since violent civil wars historically always happened under conditions way worse than the one i displayed (and mind you, this timeline's germans would've lived like kings as landowners in eastern europe), thus i find a governmental crisis more likely to happen (with coups, assassination, coercion etc)
@eldelostacos9980
@eldelostacos9980 Год назад
I liked this dynamic. I couldn't send a scenario because I was busy with other things, but I hope it's done again sometime in the future. With that said, glad to see the channel is slowly growing
@possiblehistory
@possiblehistory Год назад
Am having a blast with this one, so don't worry, there will probably be another one in the future!
@ovojohn
@ovojohn Год назад
I wasn't able to send a scenario, but I hope you do this sort of contest again! Really enjoying your videos
@tacitus7698
@tacitus7698 Год назад
The inverse of the 2nd scenario would also be fascinating: What if the Mongol invasions never happened? What the second scenario outlined for Europe is kind of what happened everywhere the Mongols conquered. Maybe these places would have been less conservative and more advanced without the Mongols.
@Prororo
@Prororo Год назад
Probably the opposite since Mongols were a huge reason for Europe uniting and finding the americas and advancing
@thegreatestoctopus9739
@thegreatestoctopus9739 Год назад
Damn I did not think I will be here so earlie. I am exited for the future videos and hope you will grow really big in the future
@advicerous4221
@advicerous4221 Год назад
Good Stuff 👍
@hajustuggmun858
@hajustuggmun858 2 месяца назад
Good video
@PhilosoShysGameChannel
@PhilosoShysGameChannel Год назад
Would be really cool to see a follow up to this scenario and see what happens into the next few decades! We think the American east Asian territories are pretty cool to think about ^^
@ivanserov1846
@ivanserov1846 Год назад
Comment for support of the channel's algorithm and young new alternate historians.
@genjoh2645
@genjoh2645 Год назад
I'm seeing the riding of a new legend of alternate history
@mrcat5508
@mrcat5508 2 месяца назад
Correct
@Titanlucaog
@Titanlucaog 8 месяцев назад
I like that on the beginning Richard Wagner music is. Richard Wagner is from my home town Bayreuth in Bavaria.
@angrymanwithsillymoustasche
I am asking for the most awaited scenerio :- *What of Buddhism remained in central asia and India? What if mongols and turks embraced Buddha's teachings?*
@mliittsc63
@mliittsc63 10 месяцев назад
Still muddy in March in Soviet Union. You can't really attack in mud season. Turns out June 22 is a pretty good start date.
@bornstar481
@bornstar481 Год назад
Nice profile picture change
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
as for the mongol conquers europe scenario, I think there is also a strong vast tech exchange between east and west which creates a strong renaissance different from the renaissance of the middle ages as the renaissance starts in Germany. The most civilized richest parts of the Euro mongol empire are the Geman states. As the Mongol empire collapses in the late 15th century and the Britsh scandanavians and Iberians fil the void of power. teh Black death still comes to Europe but due to higher tech level and lower population density the effects are bad but not as bad as OTL. MIng China actually massively expands the Chinese navy, also the 4 major empires Ming China, Spain, British, Swedish all carve up the Americas , the Carraibean and Africa into colonies. by 2022 the tech level is retrarded to aboiut 100 years , 1920s tech with some peculiar differnces than in OTL with Chinese like medicine, acupuncture being the accepted worldwide medical treatment tech. The strongest great power in this timeline is the relgiious socialist nationalist Holy Russian Empire which spans all of Scandanavia, Eastern Central Europe, Central Asia and is currently fighting vs. an alliance of Sino British corporates
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 Год назад
So, if Greenland and Iceland become independent in scenario 1 then by extension so would the Faroe Islands and they'd also be a founding member of the NATU, right? Well, being Faroese myself, I have to say that this is for now my favourite viewer submitted alt-hist scenario.
@konstantinosadamopoulos9918
Oof both scenarios seem quite grim
@nuralibolataev4474
@nuralibolataev4474 Год назад
That's what happens when you make two of the most brutal conquerors more successful
@konstantinosadamopoulos9918
@@nuralibolataev4474 yeah I guess that makes sense
@nuralibolataev4474
@nuralibolataev4474 Год назад
Yey!
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@the_chosen_one5642 Год назад
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@CapzL
@CapzL Год назад
Hi!
@meh23p
@meh23p Год назад
Algo-rhythm!
@zyanego3170
@zyanego3170 Год назад
I liked the former profile picture more.
@Ma_ksi
@Ma_ksi Год назад
Hi
@robert9016
@robert9016 Год назад
A certain religious symbol of Indian origin forbidden by RU-vid being replaced by their own logo will never get old
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
to add to my earlier post , I think social conservatism will strongly be the norm of a post ww3 1940 scenario world. By 2022 social norms are about similiar to 1970s USA. more conservative in KMT China, the USSR which has formed a rival alliance vs. the USA/BC alliance. its more or less semi friendly rivalry. with some tensions where corporations on both alliances hold a powerful sway on state policy. By 2022, the tech of the 1940 GB peace scenario is higher than our own by say 30 to 50 years. The British commonwealth formerly known as the British empire is more stronger in this timeline, as its like a NATO EU combination the Britain and a parliment of member nations deciding on state policy while the member states have their own domestic parliments , British Pound functions as the currency in the British commonwealth and its also like NATO where there is mutual defense with Britain as the strongest military member state, rivalled by that of India.
@alonk1060
@alonk1060 7 месяцев назад
Should I be saying hi at this point 😅
@ailediablo79
@ailediablo79 Год назад
I don't think the mongols could push beyond Germany/HRE ,after they fought all the way into Germany, going to France. Yes there is the plane but there is mountains in the south. Italy is hard. Especially with all those casles there. Casles in Europe are much more numerous. There is a highy density of casle walls. Not to mention there is tone of different types. European casles is much more annoying. They are not better, sometimes equal to others. But the casle useage and method is different. That would slow the Mongolias alot and it would cost them tone of soldiers. I am not even sure if they could take all of the HRE states. There is too many castles and walls. It would be like the feeling of ww1 western front. Not to mention there is screat casles too. Not to mention it is not worth it. Byzantium maby (except the capital Constantinople), but western Europe i see no gains but just losesing money. Italy is decent. But after what? It is not woth it anyway. It is too much for what it is worth. Mongolias could not defeat a proper centralized properly lead with smart people like in Egypt or India. In China Song where not fully properly lead. Mongolias also where very focused on them and it was worth it and close by. The leder also wanted a victory for political reasons. That was much later too - Yan Dynasty. It took them a verrrry long time to do so. Golden Horde became Muslim some what, a bit later and all that into Europe would be under Golden Horde control. This us a big factor. Would Russia then raise up? I don't know. It might all become Russia lol. No resonance that is for sure. This would make Ottoman Empire more impactive. Would Ottoman Empire then push beyond Byzantium and Byzantium Bulken ailes land? I don't know. Most likely no. Unless they see it easy. In our time line Ottoman Empire Sultanate push deeper because of the Pope action after they captured Constantinople would forced them to keep fighting North despite it wasn't worth it. In such case Ottoman would control Mediterranean sea almost by tiny part completely. More like Rome. They might try a massive campaign to invade Spain/Iberia. Anyway it means Gunpowder Empires era would continue feather than in ourtime line. So Islam would most powerful region in the world.
@nuralibolataev4474
@nuralibolataev4474 Год назад
Fair criticism. however, I highly doubt that the Golden horde would be the one controlling Europe, it would most likely split and become a separate Khanate.
@ailediablo79
@ailediablo79 Год назад
@@nuralibolataev4474 who is going to split? The Golden Horde was lead by a head trabe. It would only spilt in a civil war case. Not likely.
@tacitus7698
@tacitus7698 Год назад
What if the trans Atlantic slave trade never happened? I might have asked about this scenario before and I'm certainly not the first who had the idea, since Whatifalthis already made a video on it. But Kraut's recent video comparing Saudi Arabia with the kingdom of the Congo ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wim0yAkEnOQ.html got me thinking about the consequences this might have had for Africa.
@toledomarcos70
@toledomarcos70 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the link this brings up the whole reparations for slavery issue who is really going to pay for that can of worms and to whom are they going to pay the 800-pound gorilla in the room are the surviving native people in the Americas and the World-while mess that flows from that trase that continues to this day.
@charlesuzozie5747
@charlesuzozie5747 Год назад
What if slavery was abolished right at the start of the independence of the USA?
@Gabriel-sn6yg
@Gabriel-sn6yg Год назад
The mongol one is too irrealistic
@robertmcbride4454
@robertmcbride4454 7 месяцев назад
How does USA have an atomic bomb without operation paperclip happening?
@Mister_Superstar
@Mister_Superstar Год назад
Hi !1!1!!
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@bluepapaya77 Год назад
More algo food
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@idm654321 Год назад
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@eidoneverchoosen1171
@eidoneverchoosen1171 Год назад
The kingdon of England would have more claim on France since while they lose Normandy and southern west France early the English would be able to recapture and annex most of France as they wanted. No hunderd year war or instead the hunderd year war is england vs Mongol controlled france which the English, Castile, and aragon eventually win.
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
1st scenaro: also the USA is aiding the USSR massively probably been doing massive lend lease to them since 1941. which kept the USSR from collapsing. While the Germans and Italians are having economic depression and political turmoil, the Soviets are not in any shape to take advantage of the situation militarily since they are very much exhausted themselves. I think Stalin will die around the same time hitler dies , of "natural causes", short power struggle and Krushev takes over. While USSR is not part of NAUT, its a strong ally of the USA and USA massively aids USSR get back to its feet with teh Soviet policy of retaking back in lost territory a priority. this means keeping the Americans happy while rebuilding its military to take on the Germans in round 2. also rebuildint its economy. While Britain relinquishes its hold on India, the British empire is still alive and larger. What is different here, is that the USA supports in keeping the British empire intact as a hedge vs. the Germans and Italians. The British fight successful counterinsurgency operations in Malaysia and Indoensia and also aiding the US operations in Indochina , the US and GB are successful in these operations as the insurgents do not have any outside support as the KMT Chinese and Soviets are pro USA and depend on USA aid to rebuild their nations and the Germans and Italians are in a economic depression and poltiical turmoil. Indochina become US dependencies like Puerto Rico and Guam. Korea adn Philippines is a independent Pro USA state. India becomes a British dominion and given home rule like Canada, Austalia , New Zealand. due to the massive US losses in operation downfall along with most Japanese infrastructure destroyed , Japan is ont given independence post war, it becomes a USA dependency and ruled by US administrators. Later in the 90s , Japan opts to become a US state. After intense US pressufre on the Soviets, Manchuria is given back to China in 1946. after the Soviets thoroughly loot the place. the Soviets however are allowed to keep the Kuriles and Sakhalin. British explode the atom bomb in 1952. Germans and Italians are suffering much economic and political turmoil , the Soviets with American and British support heavily support partisans in occupied USSR and Eastern Europe. which is much undermining the economic exploitation of the occupied territories and causes the economic situation of the Germans and Italians to get worse. The collapse of the Italian and French economies and the deaths of mussolini and Petain in the early 1950s. cause massive unrest and revolution aided by support from USA, USSR and GB. Himmler wins the power struggles purges Goering, and reacts with an invasion of France and Italy. The British and Americans move into the French and and Italian colonies in the middle east and Africa in the name of peace keeping and denying them to the Germans. Germans are also trying to develop the atom bomb but with some progress but they dont have access to the uranium needed to make them. as the US and British have control of French and Italian coloinies in Africa. and the Spanish have appeared to have asked for British and American assistnace. US and British troops enter Spain adn Portugal to support them vs. the Germans, Himmler is terified of the US and British due to both having nukes and do not want war with them, USA USSR and British are taking good advantage in putting the screws on Germany. with the view on ending the German threat. WW3 occurs in the late 50s with the threat of the Germans getting close to a nuke bomb, Soviets British and Americans attack the Germans preceded by the use of nukes on German cities. WW3 ends in a year or two. with the collapse of the German gov. post war. Post ww3 1960s USA is the strongest most dominant political and economic power in the world. Later there are tensions with the Britiish empire , KMT China and the USSR(which has become a authoritarian but socialist capitalist state similiar to China in OTL), but its a friendly rivalry. the wrold of 2022, is very different than OTL. as the four major power blocs: USA, British commonwealth, Chinese and Soviet. all have a more or less friendly rivalry with the aims of space colonization adn tech advancement. Space race starts later in the 1970s but the rapid is a bit more rapid. By 2022, There are colonies on mars , Moon asteroids being mined. space stations habitats and expeditions to venus , and other planets in the solar system, USA is still the largest economy in the world and the US miltiary still the most powerful but its being rivalled by the other powers . Corporations have also become powerful and with strong influence. stronger than OTL.
@amongdrip8073
@amongdrip8073 Год назад
Overly optimistic and Comically biased to the Entente, I'm no wheraboo but the idea of the Germans not having nukes past the early 50's is ridiculous, this also implies that the Americans had any precedent to Support the Communists seeing as the axis never stuck up for Japan. The Allies Sparking a War with Nuclear Weapons would have been horrendous for internal relations and roused sympathisers towards the Germans, for example the US was more than capable of brutally Crushing the Vietcong in a war of attrition but it was obsessed with coming out of the war as the good guy and lost the political initiative. The idea that they would launch am unprovoked nuclear crusade on the Reich is laughable. There's no way a resurgent Soviet Union wouldn't have propped up the CCP in the Chinese Civil War, even with the Strategic Advantage the Nationalist Front was debilitated by infighting and division. US state of Japan? Are you serious? Even with an American favoured Ruling Class, such a referendum would've failed miserably, even an annexation by force would've been fiercely resisted as the Americans would've had to depose the Emperor and successfully repress dissent to do any of this. Heck it might have sparked a Soviet backed socialist revolt but that's going too deep into even more speculation. The Idea of Space colonisation is random to be honest, the reason planetary ventures are limited in our world is due to poor wide interest and the cost of such ventures. It really feels like more of a ploy to prop up the credibility of this timeline when it does kind of the opposite.
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