What If Dr. Zomboss & The Horde Were In Smash? (Moveset Ideas: 95) 

Mistakes in the video: When I initially posted this video, I used the incorrect spelling of the word "Horde" using "Hoard" instead without realizing the difference between the spellings. So while the Thumbnail and Video title are now correct, the title within the video itself has the wrong spelling of the word. The video title also says "Was" instead of "Were", this was the first villain character that required "Were" so I didn't catch it when I put in the villain background during editing.

Zombie: “This is a bucket” Player: “Dear God” Zomboss: “There’s more” Player: “No”

Here's an idea: what if, for Dr. Zomboss' alts, his mech could take on the different appearances that it does in different eras in Plants versus Zombies 2.

_* Palutina's Guidance: Zomboss *_ Viridi: *angry* Oooh that little eco-destroying technological undead terror-! Pit: *confused* Who, this guy? He doesn’t look too dangerous. Palutena: *disappointed* That’s because this one’s being controlled by a person known as Dr. Zomboss. Look in the background, Pit. Pit: *Suprised* Oh that guy! Yeah, clearly much more dangerous. Viridi: Exactly! For the longest time, this monster has been terrorizing Neighborville and the special wildlife contained in it! And now he decided to bring those nasty tricks & schemes to other worlds. Palutena: *neutral* Luckily he’s only here for backup. The ones you’ll be mostly fighting against are his pawns. Pit: *worried* I’m Sorry, _”pawns”_ ? As in plural? As in this Zomboss guy has more? Palutena: *concerned* Well yes. And they can still be deadly if you’re not careful. Especially since these ones are combat-engineered. Pit: So focus on the little guy, but be careful when the big guy strikes. Pit: *determined* Got it! I’ll make sure to keep BRAINS in the game! Zombie: Brains?

This will be long, but I had an idea for what the reveal trailer could be: The trailer starts out showing a shot of an animal crossing village, focusing on a house. We then see Villager, Olimar, Bowser Jr., and Ivysaur hanging out inside, maybe playing video games. We then see a pov shot of something slowly lurching towards the house. There's then scratching heard at the door, and Villager goes to open the door. He hesitantly opens the door, and looks around, seeing a butterfly and sighing in relief. A zombie covered in shadow then jumps out, scaring Villager who slams the door and boards up the doors and windows in cartoonish puffs of smoke. He and his friends then look around the house, prepared to fight, and after a moment of silence the roof explodes, showing a shot panning up to reveal Zomboss in his small mech, who starts cackling where the splash screen then occurs. After that some in-game footage is shown, showing shots including: -A group of zombies surrounding Mother Brain -The Zombie picking up a ramblin mushroom item and throwing it off stage -A horde of zombies chasing after Kappn's van (In reference to Penny from PvZ 2) -The zombie swimming (As an aesthetic detail when the zombie is swimming it could wear the gear of the scuba-zombie) -Shots showing the zombie using his more unique attacks on the PvZ stage There would then be a shot of a bunch of zombies fighting be throwing razor leafs and hitting zombies with its vines, Bowser Jr. would be flying around while holding Piranha Plant who is eating zombies like the Chomper, and Villager throwing trees from his pockets. It appears they have the upper hand and surround Zomboss, who then calls out and flies away while a bunch of zombies crawl out of the ground and grab everyone, and Zomboss then returns in his giant mech, transitioning into footage of his final smash, which then goes into the Smash Bros. X PvZ screen. For the short scene afterwards, it could show Villager and co. running away while zombies chase them and Zomboss flies after them, but he then suddenly stops and looks to the side to see a zombie gnawing at Rob's head, trying to eat his brain, to which Zomboss facepalms and the trailer then ends. Thank you for reading.

It just came to me how, conceptually, this moveset is the opposite of Crazy Dave's. Dave is the main fighter, going at it with the plants as support to his moves, both sides helping each other equally. Zomboss is the support, making his mooks do all the dirty work while he sits back in safety, only occasionally helping. Very smart of you, BJ.

Just a suggestion, the character should be named as only "dr zomboss" as like he was leaving all the credit to himself

Just a quick side note: I see you coloured the “blood” on the bucket heads zombie grey, that’s actually red paint, I could see how some people could get confused with it

Imagine 8 zomboss players all agreeing to not intentionally destroy gravestones

I think that it would be funny if whenever the Zombie taunts, Dr. Zomboss also taunts. His first taunt would be him laughing maniacally, his second taunt could be him pressing a bunch of buttons in his mech, and his third taunt would be him pulling out a Pop Smart (a Brainz treat that all zombies love to eat, mainly seen in the graphic novels, but also referenced in Garden Warfare 2) and eats it.

Here's a commonly-made mistake: "Hoard" refers to a collection of items or the act of gathering such, while "horde" refers to a large group of living -- or, in this case, undead -- beings.

The regular side specal be like : YEET THE CHILD

I have an idea for when he loses in stamina mode his head can fall of and he falls down like in PVZ

Imagine a Smash bros fan game with all these characters with the movesets thought up by BrawlFan1.

"Dr. Zomboss and the Horde" Anybody else think that would make a good emo metal band name?

So basically, he has infinite assist trophies. I Love it!

Loved how you included the signature "strength in numbers" tactic of the zombies, this would be a very unique character! And for a future idea: What if Omori was in smash?

Just imagine Crazy dave fighting Dr.Zomboss and the hoard or even better on the same team

Here is an idea, instead of the costumes altering zomboss's lab coat, what if they changed his mech?

I once had this idea for the character to literally be “Plants vs Zombies” and you’d be controlling both together and because of that they have a self damage thing like Pichu, and their whole gimmick was not only mimicking their rolls in the game proper but also knocking eachother around.

I think that it's funny that half the jabs in this series are "two hit semi-spammable jabs"

alright, alright, hear me out: Cadence from Crypt of the Necrodancer could make for a pretty unique moveset. And maybe even a music-based gimmick?

I vote for these guys: Ratchet and Clank- Dr. Nefarious (Emperor Nefarious as either an echo, alt. costume, or color scheme alt. costume) Sakuna: Of Rice and Men- Sakuna Pokemon- Calyex Ratchet and Clank- Ratchet & Clank (with Rivet and Kit as their echo) & Dr. Nefarious The Avatar from The Outer Worlds game

Not only are you close to getting your 100th episode of "If they were in Smash" but you're also close to reaching 100k subscribers!

Technically he is kinda like Pokémon trainer how the trainer stands in the background

It’d be cool to see a moveset for Hank J. Wimbleton, who despite not being a good guy in the slightest, is the protagonist of the Madness Combat series. While the Madness Combat series is mostly webtoons, there have been a fair share of Madness Combat games, and there are more than enough episodes of Madness Combat to pull from. Hank has also appeared in a Smash Bros style game already, in Newgrounds Rumble. With Madness Combat and Newgrounds as a whole regaining popularity recently, it would be cool to see a moveset for Hank.

1:05 Calling Zomboss a thanatologist is just genius.

I feel like they could just have ONE zombie that just switches costumes constantly.

Pvz was a part of my childhood, i can't believe the game is 12 years old. And also, what if rabbid was in smash?

I think it would be interesting to see a moveset for the solid white guy. He's been used to showcase attacks like throws and pummels so much, I think he's getting tired of it.

"He farts in pvz2 because it stinks" *shows many examples from pvz2*

Two things I thought of: first as part of the costumes have zomboss use the different mechs throughout the ages, because if you have 8 zombosses flying around in the same mech, it becomes confusing. Second, instead of slashing down, i think jab should be the eating animation, because that is more iconic I think

When kirby eats him he gets a cute little tie

BrawlFan: PVZ2 stinks Pvz fans: You just insulted my entire race. But yes.

Idk if others suggested it, but 2B could be pretty interesting. She could have the ability to glide with Pod after a double jump, some nice combos with the heavy and light attacks, maybe the down special could be a taunt borrowed from A2 where she takes damage over time in exchange for increased damage. Pod could also be used for some of the specials, like the standard laser for the side special.

i think that the gravestones should change with the alts

I feel like zomboss would join smash just to have a testing grounds for this super zombie

Especially if it's a separate character. I would specifically like to see movesets for Peashooter and Super Brainz. In other words what if Peashooter and Super Brainz were in Smash

This sounds like a REALLY fun character to play

Pvz Gnomes next *Im a gnome, yes i am a gnome, the lack of being real is the source of my appeal.*

The Great Mighty Poo from Conker's Bad Fur Day. He would be scaled down just like Ridley

I'd say I won't miss the premiere, but then that'd make me a liar.

I have a suggestion, how about The arch Illager from minecraft dungeons and Mad Dummy/Mad Mew Mew from Undertale

I always wondered what Zomboss would be like in smash. My wish was granted ig

Boxing Match Idea "The Brains and the Brawn" Or "Crumbling Cronies" Alternate Down Smash Idea: "Jurassic Rockpuncher" The Zombie's brow furrows as two rocks appears in their hands, when the smash is unleashed, they smash the spot infront of themself, dealing super massive damage and very good launch power, the catch is that the hitbox is the same as a Solo Climber's D-Smash [only hitting Infront of themself at a low angle], but a plus that Jurassic Rockpuncher has, is that the Smash attack leaves behind smoldering rubble that damages all foes that step on it. Asthetic Idea: The Mooks and Armor could also have the attire of the relevant eras from Pvz 2 with a Giga Gargantuar [the one from Garden Warfare] for the Footsolder Alt.

Predictions: -A pokemon that smells bad -Patrick Star -A cartoon character that smells bad -Shrek

Another move set I absolutely love. I wish it was real since it sounds really fun to mess around with and can be a really challenging opponent to fight (seeing how hard a lvl 9 CPU Kazuya is, Zomboss would be a fun challenge). Keep it up!

Remember the imposter? Something about pulling into your inner spy? Yeah, please try to put him in, but I don't expect him to come considering we already have a deception based character

“This Stinkwad…” Holy frick, I can’t believe I’m going to be in Smash.

This moveset is creative fitting a guy like Zomboss

As another character, since we are talking about the PvZ games, how about the pea shooter. I feel like it could be a good idea.

I feel like the final smash could work like a charge forward, (like K. Rools or Ridleys final smashes) where Zomboss flies off screen laughing maniacally while the zombie player calls out summoning and large group of zombies to its position to charge forward a certain distance. Any foes caught in the crowd with be slammed down onto the roof from the first PVZ where Zomboss in his full mech shoots fire and ice balls down, launching all players.

I love how you made Zomboss an evil version of the Pokemon Trainer!

Maybe it’s Balan? From Balan Wonderworld? His game is the definition of stinkwad in terms of design, after all XD Or it could be Gruntilda, since Nuts ‘n Bolts is a thing :3

My suggestions: Hank,Auditor,or tricky from madness combat Pyro or engineer from Tf2 And castle crashers

Dude your almost at 100k and good job on the videos

I would love to see Zagreus. He has soooo many options in Hades; weapons, help from the gods, and even the little helping objects.

I don't know what this character could be when it comes to "Stinkwad". Blaze is very unlikely for this hint.

I love the idea of making Zomboss lay back and let his workers do the hard work. Great job on this one! Not much more to say tbh so... Recommendations. My first request is Yuuki Makoto (otherwise also known as Arisato Minato or if we wanna be cynical, Door-kun) from Persona 3. I've already mentioned that I think Yuu from P4 could make for a good and unique character by incorporating his ability to use the wildcard, and while the same is true for Minato here I'd suggest making his actual party member friends a bigger part of his gameplay. So while Joker focuses on his and his persona's individual ability, Yuu could delve deeper into the games' strategic element of using different personas for different situations, while Minato could flesh out the bonds your character makes throughout your Persona journey. Which is quite ironic to be given to the character whose game sees the very toughest social gameplay and party members that cannot be controlled but of well. Maybe switch the concepts for Yuu and Minato I guess. Oh, and of course have FeMC aka Minako from Portable be an alt costume. For request no. 2, let's go for Majima Goro from the Yakuza series. I've already said Kiryu could work nicely, but Majima might actually work even better! He has 4 *_very_* distinct styles as opposed to Kiryu's relatively similar ones. Maybe it could be that all of his normals and aerials are moves from Mad Dog, his specials are Sluggers, his smashes are Breaker, and his grab is Thug. Final Smash where he and Saejima do that thing from Like a Dragon, anyone? Or maybe it could be his QTE from Kiwami, and it's *actually* a QTE that the person hit by it has to fully succeed to get out of. Alts could be inspired by all the other Yakuza protags. Ajna. Indivisible. Thank you for your time.

"What if Gordon Freeman Was In Smash?" idk if u already did this but it would pretty cool ngl

It’s king wart from super Mario bros 2

I'm surprised he doesn't have a speical victory line against Crazy Dave,

Dr. Zomboss and the Hoard is definitely in my favorites among Venoct and Papyrus & Sans. As for requests: Monster Rider & Ratha (Rathalos) Monster Rider & Velocidrome Palachute (also from Monster Hunter) Kaos (Skylanders) Eye-Brawl (also Skylanders) McKraken (Yo-Kai Watch) Tabuu (Smash)[Less likely]

Another cool feature I think would be neat would be that every time a Zomboss sends in a new zombie when you lose a stock, the alt would randomise. So even though you chose for example, the default Browncoat Alt, Zomboss may still send in your next zombie stock in the Mummy Alt, or the Pirate Alt, etc. Each stock is a different zombie, so it’d make sense if they’re all not wearing the same thing. If you do however want to keep playing as the same Alt, you can toggle this on and off.

My concept for Zomboss' final smash: Title: Huge horde of Zombies (cutscene fs) Zomboss ducks while his zomboss smashes a van hitting up to 4 people. Zombies crowd the opponent taking bites from them dealing damage then soldier shoots a ZPG hitting the opponent leading into a MEGA Zombot PUNCH

These are my votes: -Kaos, from skylander, or pretty much any version of him (Robokaos, Trap Kaos, Super Evil kaos, Super Kaos etc...) -Baade, From Idle Heroes -Snartle or his evolution, Brutle, from yo kai watch -kirby-accurate-Meta knight (Meta knight, but with his actual moves, including his moves that need a certain Direction combination to perform)

someone should make a mod for smash bros called "Brawl Fan Edition" which adds all of his ideas.

I love your videos and the work you put into them, I’d love to see a Goro Akechi one Ik you could do it best!!!

Requests: Fall Guy (Fall Guys) Kamek (Mario) Barbarian (Clash of Clans) Spider-Man (Marvel's Spider-Man) Chase Mccain (Lego City Undercover)

Request (Fighters): Barista and Tibby from Rhythm Heaven. Their moveset is based on the various rhythm games. Tetrinome from Tetris, controlled by Tee from Puyo Puyo Tetris. Moveset is themed around manipulation of its shape. Alphys from Undertale. Moves themed around events from Lab, Hotland, Mew Mew Kissie Cutie, and True Lab. Townsmen from Town of Salem. Moveset themed around township roles. Barbarian King or Grand Warden from Clash of Clans. Moveset themed around units, spells, and towers. Would represent mobile games. Chibi-Robo from Chibi-Robo. Moveset themed around cleaning, toys, and housework. The Boy With Earrings (Naoyu) from Persona 1. Moveset themed after his Personas, SiemenKongou and Amen Ra. Super Brainz from PvZ Heroes. Moveset themed around brain conservation and cards. Atlas and P-Body from Portal. Moveset themed around portals. The Farmer from Harvest Noon/Story of Seasons. Moveset themed around farming. Ty from Ty the Tasmanian Tiger. Moveset themed around boomerangs. Wilson from Don't Starve. Moveset themed around technology from the his world. Old Pro from The Magic Circle. Moveset themed around "editing" the "assets" of Super Smash Bros. The Boy (or Moon Protag) from Moon: Remix PRG Adventure. Moveset themed around calling forth allies. Qbby from BOXBOY! Moveset themed around the various box types. The User from The Talos Principle. Moveset themed around various puzzle mechanics from the game with a trap motif. Raz from Psychonauts. Moveset themed around psychokinetic abilities. Crying Child from FNAF 4. Moveset themed around nightmare animatronics terrorizing him. (Joke Character.) Lightning McQueen from Cars: (The game based on it was released before the movie) Moveset themed after the Cars video games. Iota/Atoi from Tearaway. Moveset themed around papercrafts, mailing letters, and 4th wall manipulation. Omori/Sunny from Omori. Moveset themed around emotions. The Vice-President from Citizens of Earth/Space. Moveset themed around the Citizens of Earth/Space. Patapon Hero from Patapon. Moveset themed around Patapon Unit weaponry and beats. Miku Hinasaki from Fatal Frame. Moveset themed around cameras. Joel/Ellie from The Last of Us. Moveset themed around zombie survival. Filbo from Bugsnax. Fights with traps and Bugsnax. Eddie RIgs from Brutal Legend. Fights with music, rocking towers, and cool allies. Zagreus from hades. Can change aspects and weapons to alter his moveset, similar to Issac. Jin Sakai from Ghost of Tsushima. Fights with a blade, and his moveset evolves the more you rely on underhanded tactics like using items or using his grab. Sam Porter from Death Stranding. Fights with packages, also develops risks when players dies. Red Hero from Supraland. Fights with various gadgets that can interact with the environment. Baba from Baba is You. Can spawn code use to create attacks, sometimes even stealing the opponent's effects. Harold from Harold. Moveset themed around gravity and cleaning. Rabbid from Rabbids. Moveset themed around their various minigames, with main inspiration from the Mario + Rabbids Kingdom battle game. Atari from the Atari console (joke???). Fights based on the various Atari games. Tumbleseed from Tumbleseed. Would roll around and pick up gems to upgrade arsenal over time. Thomas from Thomas Was Alone. Would summon allies that follow him like Olimar, with each additional ally adding onto his moveset. Born from Nihilumbra. Utilizes various colors to change the battlefield. Aurora from Child of Light. Fights with ally characters. Trace from Axiom Verge. Utilizes various weaponry and glitches. Wayne from Hylics. Fights with various moves from the RPG, stylized after claymation. Juan Aguacate from Guacamelee!. Fights with wrestling. Stanley from The Stanley Parable: Causes 1 of 12 random events to occur. Gmod Guy from Gmod: Fights with Gmod items, similar to Maxwell from Scribblenauts. Glover from Glover: Rolls a random type of ball around, damaging any foes in the path. Watergirl and Fireboy from flash games of same name. Fights with various temple mechanics. Would represent Flash games. Companion Cube from Portal. Joke character, fights with portals. Intelleon from Pokemon. Sniper shots and quick movement, obligatory Pokemon rep. Cinderace from Pokemon. Crowd meter influencing attacks, obligatory Pokemon rep. The Enforcer or HYPII from Hypnospace Outlaw. Attacks with a cursor and programs, represents the internet. Game or Mr. Glitch from There is No Game. Fights with glitches. Mallo from Pushmo. Can manipulate the stage in various ways HERO or HOPER from Typoman. Creates words to fight players. Farmer from Story of Seasons/Harvest Moon. Fights with farming/gardening tools. Mii Heroer from Miitopia. Powers derived from various Mii classes and abilities. Nate Adams from Yo-kai Watch. Summons Yokai to assist, fights similar to Villager/Isabelle. Wonder-Red from The Wonderful 101. Fights with Unite Morphs, gains nanite allies over time. The Intern from Say No! More. Fights by saying "NO" in different ways.

This is ur best vid on ur series YET, I might be bossy as of me being a pvz nerd

I like how with this the music is more of garden warfare music due to him being more in those games as a bigger source of moves due to those games higher diversity

Prediction: Bubsy. Requests: - Neku (The World Ends With You)

How about “What if ‘Zoroark’ (Pokémon) was in smash?” I think they would be cool

As soon as I heard the GW2 music I knew this would be a good episode

17:17 Idea holding the down special allows you to throw the headgear as a weak projectile where cones are faster but are weaker in damage and knock back and buckets are vice versa

Nice! It'll be cool to see Dr. Zomboss & The Horde fight Crazy Dave on a PVZ themed map (maybe the house? Complete with its front yard, backyard with pool, and roof) if these were in the game!

"Stinkwad" just makes me think of those Iron Guys from Paper Mario TTYD in Chapter 3. I'd love to suggest Dark Matter from Kirby.

How about in stanima mode, depending on what the final move was that the oponent used to finish you off, you have a different death. Attack=head pop off, fire=incinerated, lightning=electrocuted, ect

Plot twist: Every single episode up to now has just been characters in BrawlFan's smash fan game, that will be released after episode 100

I feel like it's staring me in the face, but I don't know Edit: Zomboss, awesome.

Day 8 of me asking for: “What If Spark The Electric Jester Was In Smash?”

This guy is my mortal enemy. He also attacked suburbia. Half of suburbia fell. The other half still remains.

im not sure if you're only taking suggestions for video game characters but! request: madness combat characters, hell yeah. maybe hank or tricky in smash? HKSGD that'd be pretty epic

I love this character. PvZ has been a very important part of my childhood and I love the idea of Crazy Dave and Dr. Zomboss being in Smash. I would like it if you would attempt to make move sets for more of the Garden Warfare plants and zombies.

I don't know why, but "This Stinkwad" makes me think it's gonna be Squidward.

I feel like a way you could make this character feel more like a horde is by adding 2 weaker zombies, similar to the ice climbers.

I would say for the specials just to give the players in the match inticators if it’s zombies of the zombie doing the special maybe the zombie could be ready to throw the attack but have a radio in his pocket screaming in zombosses inaudible dialogue in the same time frame as the regular neutral attack with a indication above the zombies head like a exclamation point or question mark. Basically zomboss interrupts the zombie and steps in.

Request: Rhythm Heaven character! Karate Joe, Chorus Kids, the Barista, or of course… the Monkey. We need representation for one of the most creative rhythm games Nintendo ever made!

Battletoads???? Anyways, request: - Reiji (Namco x Capcom) - Miriam (Bloodstained) - Solairè (Dark Souls) - Geralt (The Witcher) - Akuma (Street Fighter) - Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear) - Ragna (BlazBlue) - Filia (Skullgirls)

Imagine the chaos that would be smash with each of these if [blank] was in smash bros.

Suggestion: Showcase a possible ledge grab animation as well as a ledge attack for future character concepts

I vote for: Dr. Nefarious Sakuna (Sakuna of Rice and Men game) Sekiro (a.k.a. Wolf) from Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Grimmsnarl from Pokemon Poisonetta

Tricky The Clown in smash, Madness Cimbat doesnt originate as a video game but theres so many games with Tricky in them

Love the gw2 music in the background

You could make a move wich make the zombie use his pole vault to launch himself like Luigi

New requests: Bunk Bed Junction (No Straight Roads) The Creature (Spore) Beatrix LeBeau (Slime Rancher) Coffee (Desolate Hope) Etemon/Metal Etemon (Digimon) Nabbit (New Super Mario Bros. U) Castle Crashers Frank West (Dead Rising) Lemming (Lemmings) James Bond (007/Golden Eye)

Possible Alt and Appearance Ideas: Maybe the headgear could be matched to the alt it's used as (meaning the Egyptian one would have Egyptian buckets and cones). For the Soldier one, it could be a helmet for the cone (assuming it doesn't already have it when it starts the battle) and a pot for the bucket (referencing the plants you can pot in that game). This would be harder, but they could also make Zomboss have the boss from that era, with each PVZ2 alt having the head of the boss floating (Assuming the head for the normal Zombot is the basic). I haven't played PVZGW, so I can't think of anything for that one, but I'm sure there's something. The Zombot for the final smash would still be the same. IF they wanted to go the absolute full mile, they could even edit the zombies summoned to the skins. Including the hands, Imps, and Gargantuars. GW alt would still have the same zombies. Also since the new stock would be a new zombie, maybe instead of a spawning platform, Zomboss moves closer onscreen, opens the mouth of whatever boss it is, and have it open until the Player decides to spawn, making the zombie appear out of the mouth and Zomboss retreat back to the background. For the marching victory screen, maybe it could have some Gargantuars mixed in with it, to instill more fear. For a request, how about Don Chan from Taiko no Tatsujin? Or WALL-E?

If the lawn was in the game. In the Lawn, there is a small chance of there being 2-3 pre-placed gravestones that can summon zombies slower than graves spawned by abilities. There are 3 random zombies that can be spawned which are the regular zombie, the conehead and the buckethead. Coneheads and Bucketheads are more rare because they're tougher. The Lawn can also transition from day to night every minute. Day is just the normal state of the Lawn but night allows Crazy Dave to spawn any kind of fungi such as the Puff-shroom, Sun-shroom, Fume-shroom, Magnet-shroom, Scaredy-shroom, Ice-shroom, Shadow-shroom, Spore-shroom and Hypno-shroom.

I wanted to see the bloons monkey in one because there is lot of ideas in that. For example One of the Monkey's moves could be placing tacks down and if an opponent steps on it they take damage and for the intro it could be the monkey being like dragged onto the field and when there are in the air there is a red circle below them and there is a green circle when they reach land