Somewhere out there, someone was really happy when they died by being stepped on by Android 18. Now that memory is replaced by them being really happy while dying by being stepped on by Android 19, and they are very confused.
I feel like Buu's egg was forgotten during the fight with Dabura... maybe have Mr.Buu roaming around and Shin freaking out finding Buu and instead of killing him Gohan befriends him lol
Im not surprise by Dabura being easy to defeat i mean they had a year to train plus thier potential as half saiyan-earthling plus they double teamed him in the beginning.
This is a really great what if, just one question with krillin dead, and 18 and gohan closer in age due to the time the androids spent dead...is there any hope for her and gohan to become a couple?
I love how King Kai is totally oblivious to what's going on on Earth. Certainly seemed that way in the Alternate Future. Beerus being the dick we all know and love, is gonna challenge them to a fight? Maybe threaten to blow up Earth, if nothing else than to motivate them. Trunks will end up using The Sword. The desperate, full power hit is casually blocked, snapping the sword in two and, wait, that's the sword he locked... oh no... Of all the fancy, mythical swords in the universe, why THAT one? And Beerus himself broke it? He has just released... Elder Kai: Sup B-Dog.. err Cat.
It feels weird that Gohan and Trunks would leave earth unprotected for a full year, I mean while writing this i know they have the dragon balls prepped so they could revive anyone they didn't protect in the year but still felt like a decision that would've taken a lot of debate to be accepted by Trunks. Though this is a Trunks that didn't go years fighting alone so fair enough. They'd definitely have instant transmission, that's just too important of a technique not to have. Even if Cell was defeated very easily and it's sort of inevitable with Spirit Fission involved but I did really enjoy the stealing of the wish, like Frieza once attempted to but failed. Nice subversion with the Z-Sword actually cutting this time. Now I don't know if the Androids were redeemed too quickly but it was 'only' 13 years of terror but the victims of Cell stuff and the programming influencing the personalities and BOMBS in them. Fair enough. I can definitely see Gohan having a moment after making the wish so people forget 17/18 did it saying like, just because of this or Gerro's influence doesn't mean you're absolved of what you've done, so use the power you have to make the world a better place. Overall great stuff and made sense without breaking the series, there's always a lot of potential in Future Gohan getting an afterlife body and you've used it well here
I should definitely have expand on a lot more. The conflict of leaving Earth for a year is one of them. as for gohan's comment after the wish that is amazing dialogue bro and I might steal it lol. As always thanks for the detailed review and glad you liked the video
I mean at the time they couldn’t really protect it and since one of them just kicked the bucket they couldn’t really risk going there without gains gohan originally was suicidal to give trunks an edge in the movie
What if suggestions What if Hit was born in universe 7 What if Xicor was canon (Dragon Ball AF) What if Cooler turned good or was born good What if Kami fused with Elder Guru and Piccolo fused with Lord Slug What if Android 16 survived and fused with Super Android 13 What if Android 21 was canon What if Towa and Mira were canon What if King Kai/Goku Taught the Z-Fighters KaioKen What if Janemba was canon and turned good What if Gohan was like Broly What if Cell was reincarnated What if Cell survived or was resurrected What if Turles was Goku's or Bardock's twin brother What if Raditz and Nappa survived What if Goku got SSG from training with King Kai during the 7 year time skip What if Ultimate Gohan defeated Super Buu and was the protagonist for the Buu saga. The Buu saga could be an epilogue to show the audience that Gohan is now the main character and GT could be about him growing up without Goku while dealing with having to fight villains and being Goku's legacy then bring Goku back at the end of GT while setting up Super
5:13 you called 17 18 to get here I got a ride from whips but beerus wanted to stop for food so i had to get a rid from instant transfimsion this is going to be OP vid.
A What If that I have a rough timeline for, and would like to see what your take on it would be, is What If Super Saiyans 2 and 3 didn't exist? This leaves Super Saiyan as the only transformation (anyone can do the Grade forms) until SSJ God is introduced, and they can still be combined to create Blue.
@@MangaAdventures although that is correct I personally believe that mastered super saiyan would still be achievable, just that there wouldn't be a super saiyan 2 or 3 to surpass grade 4 SSJ
@@MangaAdventures Every wiki, game, and person I've seen seems to consider SSJ2 a separate form after the Buu Saga. I can see only Hybrid Salt and being able to go "grade 5" because of the rage boosts from human emotions
The Vegetas don't much like sharing power from what we've seen, so it would be some Brach Family stuff like the Hyuuga from Naruto, with Bardock being considered lesser to King Vegeta. Bardock could recruit way more Saiyans to rebel against Freeza, but it wouldn't be enough. Raditz would probably take many beatings from Prince Vegeta out of sheer spite, which could probably have him being stronger than usual due to Zenkais. He might also have a somewhat different personality. Goku and Vegeta's relationship would be considerably different. Hell, Goku and Raditz might not even be born, as Bardock would be less likely to meet Gine.
@@DarrielOni hmmm. I'd wager that they'd be able to defeat frieza (mind you, he's off guard, not expecting a resistance, and is only in his first form, being surpressed at that, too.) If Bardock was effectively a king, then he'd have the Power Ball technique. The Power Ball would allow his allies to turn into Great apes, bringing every saiyan there's strength from 1,000 - 10,000 to 10,000 - 100,000 each. Also, it's very possible Both king vegeta and Bardock are stronger than canon, since the whole rivalry thing might lead to them beating the s*** out of each other, receiving extra zenkais.
@@DarrielOni something interesting, perhaps there'd be two kings instead of one... King vegeta would control more territory, with his kingdom being similar to the one we see in canon, however bardock's might be considerably different. Also, it's never stated why Bardock and Gine met, but let's say it does happen (since it's more interesting that way)
@@BagofBeans1 I believe DB minus states Gine was part of Bardock's squad but wasn't cut out for fighting (he kept saving her and they fell in love) so she retired to butcher after. Now i had issues recalling this and doubled checked it from the wiki, so take it with a grain of salt. But it could be possible for them to still meet if Bardock's territory was more appealing to low-class saiyans.
@@DragonLordJesus probably, since he received the shaft from his family, not to mention having less resources, they'd likely have low-class saiyans treated better.
I'm listening to this again and I really want a part 2 of this whenever you get the chance, man. There's potential here, like Beerus coming here to start a future Battle of Gods here. With Gohan and Trunks keeping up their training, I can imagine maybe they achieve that Improved SSJ2 state that Future Trunks had developed in the Black arc. I'm still waiting on that sword to snap and release Elder Kai, so Ultimate can be used. They can ask Shenron to summon any living Saiyans left. Question is with the God ritual, they would have (Gohan, Trunks, Broly, Paragus, Tarble) and that wouldn't be enough since Paragus isn't pure (unless you have Trunks and Gohan find waifus?). But besides that, it could be made that the SSJ God could be attained through training with an angel just like main Vegeta had. I wonder if this means Resurrection of F still happens, as the Universe 6 tournament would still happen. I'm unsure about the Zamasu stuff and about the Tournament of Power even occuring.
I think the future 17 and 18, who with Goku dead were just doing horrible things for fun, were forgiven a little too easily. But then again, the original Z fighters have Vegeta, and he still hasn't atoned for entire planets he chose to destroy.
They are very lacking in fighters. If things go the tournament route, they have 3 major fighters. No super babies because it’s unlikely that Gohan or trunks would get together with 18. So I don’t see a way for them to to succeed in the long run.
Damn man where you been for the last few weeks? I've been looking for you, everybody else has been coming out with stagnant what if popping out short short videos you're somebody I come to for some really good lengthy detailed videos keep up the good work man hope to see another video soon
Wait... Why DIDN'T this happen in canon? lmao There's literally no reason for Gohan not to try and help Earth from beyond the grave, makes no sense to me that he didn't.
Good story I get why u decided to leave the other fighters dead although I would love a what if piccolo and the others went back to king Kai, I still enjoyed this. I would say work on your delivery gets a little monotone but cant wait to hear part 3.🐉👊
A way to get the SSG ritual will be done without wishing others back or rule braking could be to have 18 already unknowingly pregnant with 4 kids (one of my aunts had that many in one go) by the time trunks retuned to earth from his training and have whis point it out. Wold be funny having 17 freak out at his bro becoming his Bro. Also we saw the power boost 17 got from training alone canonically and in this timeline he was training with gohan at what I can assume is a similar rate. since we know you gain power drastically faster with a training partner the power 17 and gohan would gain should be massive.
@Manga Adventures, What if 1) Omega Shenron had won, as Bulma and the others had eventually left the planet? 2) What if Goku Self destructed against Super 17? 3) Goku blew up against Omega? 4) Gt Goku was stuck in hell... with Golden Frieza, Golden Cell, Golden Final Form Kold, Golden Cooler, and Golden Cell Jrs ?
I really enjoyed this what if though barring some issues. Specifically how the Androids were easily forgiven. Vegeta was only let go by Goku who did so only due to wanting to fight stronger opponents with most of the Dragon Team kinda just accepting hin after awhile. I feel like with the Androids it was more personal given that they ended 99% of humanity for literal shits and giggles. I'm not saying it couldn't be done but maybe without the wishing everything back to normal and instead having the Androids help with the effort with the wish being instead for the humans to forget who they were. Teaching them some compassion and having to see what harm they caused, maybe just replacing the harm caused in the humans nund with some massive disaster. I feel like Gohan would only have sympathy if he knew their backstory, that they were kidnapped and didn't ask for this. Most especially with knowledge of the bombs. Cause they do need help fr if they aren't going to wish back the other fighters. Which honestly I'm completely fine with, like besides Piccolo and Vegeta, I feel like the other humans would've found peace or Gohan and Trunks just wanting them to have their rest. It's been a decade plus, nearly two at that! I'm glad that you had Gohan and Trunks visit Yardrat and scan visit King Kai. It's weird that the Kai wasn't used in the actual manga and anime honestly. Lastly, for the damage they'd caused I don't really see Gohan nor Trunks getting with 18, that just seems way too odd. It'd just be a quarter Saiyan and 75% human since the Androids are still humans just enhanced by technology not biologically different.
Gohan and trunks should have instant transmission first after learning he control. You have to learn that first before you can learn any other that's how I was told.
Vegeta didn't learn it he was literally about to leave yardrat without it but the people of Yardrat couldn't leave so he had to use it once and even stated he couldn't do it a second time
@@MangaAdventures that true and I think if Vegeta tried it again. Vegeta will be able to do it he just didn't want to. My reason for that is cuz we first learned about yard right after Goku went there. Then we learn how their techniques are wish they all come from Spirit control and how you learn. Plus that you can make up your own out of spear control them when Vegeta. so I just thought I'd be only fair if everybody's first time going to yardrat they had to do it like Goku the only reason Vegeta went out of town is because they had to be Moro or the universe was doomed in a sense.
What will you do with Bojack and his warriors? Also will Future Gohan get with Future Android 18? Also what would happen if Gohan put on the Potara earrings when he becomes a Saiyan God?
What if when Turles came to earth to bring the Tree of Might, he went to find a strong woman after defeating the Z Fighters? And that strong woman is Chi-Chi, so Turles has his way with her(please know that I don't support r×pe) and Chi-Chi gets impregnated by Turles. You could decide if you want her to have a son or a daughter? And that way Gohan will have a half-sibling and Goku will have a step-child.
There’s still a way for the god ritual to occur. If 18 was pregnant with twins and Vegeta was brought back. Goku would also need to be brought back but I’m fairly certain that Whis can do that
I think there is 2 ways to bring back Future Gohan's Future Father Goku back to life by breaking the laws from Natural sick causes of heart disease is Use Super Dragon Balls or whis sense he an Angel.
Yes my dude, doing a what if now that involves Piccolo going out of his way to attain power to compete with Goku, which involves him becoming good early or being born that way, not sure which way to go, or if to go that route at all. Piccolo is equal in power to Goku by the time Radditz arrives, finds out he is Namekian, and dies holding Radditz so Goku can take him out and be there for his son. Piccolo, being on king kais planet for the entire year nets him Kaioken times 5, rather than 4 like Goku, since Piccolo has it in his mind to surpass, i naturally say he would even if only by 1 level here, and Piccolo is smarter, so hed utilize the mastery differently and faster its just his body thatd feel it and he wouldnt get zenkais. Tien who is alive and stronger is who helps train Gohan instead of Piccolo, along with Goku and Roshi. Gohan gets much better control over his emotions including anger and fear. This being said hes more powerful too. He also learns Kamehameha instead of Masenko. Since Piccolo died there are no earth dragon balls, and Goku is MUCH weaker when Nappa and Vegeta arrive. Goku, not having Kaioken is backed into a corner trying to keep everyone alive. Everyone else would be stronger, but Goku is weaker and since he was the one with the highest chancs, he fights, and eventually loses it, but since he also trained with Tien for his emotions, seeing what it did for Gohan, he isnt nearly strong enough to go Super Saiyan, nor is it needed. He goes ikari out of fury because some people die, and Vegeta threatens to take Gohan like radditz did since he seems much more powerful than in canon, and Goku begins to lose the last bit of control he can manage, fighting hard to maintain it, when Vegeta does his galick gun toward the earth, and goku pushes it back with the rest of his power, exhausting him, and he falls out of it. since Piccolo wont be back till after theyre on namek he gets futher with Kaioken than goku, getting all the way to 25, and even 30 but this is last resort. Then he fuses with Nail, Vegeta being stronger kills cui as canon, already being at 300000 from the beatdown zenkai, he can kill zarbon and dodoria and get all 4 of their dragkn balls and the one from the village he destroys with ease, this leaves dende some warrior namekians and moori alive. dragon balls are used and im not sure if i want to use them for 2 wishes then they turn to stone for a reason, or if i mind letting them get all 3 wishes so someone in particular has a chance to compete with the saiyan power and actually do more noteable work. Kaioken can be BUSTED early on and makes writing characters using it a bit hard. Anyone wanna help me write or correct and improve this idea? Piccolo and Vegeta are my faves but i dont want them to be a duo, i want him and goku to do their thing but Piccolo cares about goku, not vegeta, and then pushes Gohan to be even stronger than in canon, and ik ill eventually have piccolo get god ki. but i havent written that far
I got an Idea What if the "Affectionate Android" what if scenario from dbz bt3 actually happened Dr gero sending Android 16 back in time to kill goku but failing by something in his head changing because of android 8 & Kid Goku
This was a coo story just kinda dumb that you didn’t bring back all the z fighters with the namekian dragon balls which I could be done and it’s something gohan would do
Why didn't you have them use the dragonballs to bring back their fathers and their friends that got killed by the Androids in the past that would make more sense you'd have more people to back you up when something went wrong
My friend I think you got the concept all twisted why would you send them a yard rack and not have them learn Instant Transmission then they could just teleport instead of wasting the Dragon Balls for taxi rides
Depending whether or not the Dell was able to be revived or not I think it would be really interesting to have either trunks or Gohan have a relationship with 18 half saying half Android potential sounds pretty sweet
now i would see future gohan learning kaioken spirit bomb instant transmission i was implied that king kai knew the instant transmission i would also imaging king kai sends gohan to the other world tournament he meets the z fighters trains with them trains with pikkon olibu learns the fusion dance etc
The storytelling was interesting I really like it and the fact of Android 18 and 17 becoming good people is a big change I like the way you're going with the story I'm looking forward to part 2.
I think it went a little too quickly. Maybe flesh out more of the world/characters. For instance, Roshi, Oolong, Puar, Yaijorobe, Mr. Popo, Chi-Chi, and the Ox-King should all be alive still. I also do wish you could work in the resurrection of everyone else. Except maybe Goku since he died Naturally. Unless maybe that comes into play with the SSG ritual.
In Canon and filler we have no idea if roshi, oolong, puar are alive. in the future trunks filler episode we see that future chi chi and ox king are alive but this is never mentioned in the manga and I prefer to sticking to Canon unless I focus on a what if specifically on that topic. Hypothetically if I did abandoned that rule for a more interesting story I wouldn't in the situation because those characters wouldn't be interesting and they haven't been since og db expect roshi who would most certainly be dead because he isn't a coward like yaijorbe he would try to help or he could have been killed by the androids if they thought he had goku. Same with the others. Last I don't want to bring everyone back because all that does is literally reset the status quo expect we're slightly further in the future what's the point of making a what if if you're just going to turn everything back to normal
please make future gohan marry future andoid 18 lets switch the wives and let future trunks marries videl age gap i know but in the original dragon ball goku and bulma were good friends even though goku is many youngers younger than her krillin could marry a female saiyan zangya or princess snake i know it wont make sense but since this is a what if please make it happen i beg of you your what ifs are awesome iam at loss for words please
Why wouldn't Goku help the z fighters in the future to me personally it makes more sense he didn't keep his body because if he did he's just chilling in the after life not checking on earth when he was shown to do so in the main timeline during buu
