WHAT IF Goku and Sonic Swapped Universes?| DragonBallZ vs Sonic The Hedgehog 

Whoever says Death Battle never let Dragon Ball win shut up. Goji only has 1 DB win on his channel.

Goku is basically a powerscaler's punching bag. He either gets completely obliterated or destroys whoever he's up against.

I didn’t even know Sonic and Shadow (in the games) were THIS STRONG 😭

Does this get us one step closer to Silver vs Goku's Balls?

Sonic has definitely grown in power over the years

Both Sonic and Shadow has the acability to breath in space meanwhile Goku and Vegeta barely cannot

Even if Goku and Vegeta team up against Solaris, they would need Broly to actually defeat him. Past, Present and Future, all Solaris...Solarises? Solari! All of them need to be defeated at once.

Crazy how different in power anime and manga characters should be. Specially considering that manga goku never absorbs god in base.

Saying Goku doesn't even scale to 5D is fucking bonkers. The cosmology and mortal universe scales to beyond 4D. The afterlife is a higher dimension so 4D to 5D depending on if you take time as the 4th dimension. The entire macrocosm + kaioshin realm would all be around 5D all the universal constructs in universe 7 are infinite in size with different levels of infinity but Goku doesn't have infinite power. Meaning his power simply surpasses it in dimensionality. The 6D finite power is superior to 5D infinity. Hence how and why he can handle a power that threatens the destruction of universe 7 as early as the start of super. Thus proving anime Goku scales beyond 6D and probably even higher. When you look at the facts Goku has scaled beyond Sonic ever since the beginning of super and the anime continuity isn't even the Canon version of dragon Ball (which scales much higher than the anime).

Finally someone who understands The End and Infinite's power! Btw, since Infinite out sped Sonic, wouldn't that mean that,now, they'd both have irrelevant speed?

"so does Krillin" took me tf out 🤣

Best of luck to Goku and Vegeta when it comes to Solaris.🤷💁‍♂️

This video lowkey inspired me to do some Sonic scaling with anime versus! Nice video Goji, im a new supporter but I already love your stuff!

For me personally, I feel like you can argue goku and Vegeta being 5D once they surpassed Broly in power. But I don’t think that really changes much since speed is pretty much what they’re lacking.

actually sonic and shadow and silver destroyed 3 different solarises and that was them in super form fighting alone.

For the actual character scaling I thought you were going to use Archie Sonic for a minute there. I never realized video game Sonic was actually that powerful

This video pandered to my kid self and teenage self with your analysis of Sonic and Dragon Ball respectively, and I loved it. After checking out your channel and seeing what videos you produce, I gotta say you must keep up this good work

2:28 You can’t get from Low Multi to Multiversal with multipliers. Even if you can blow up…let’s say 2 entire space time continuums, if you double your power, you won’t be able to destroy 4 due to each additional universe being an entire infinite gap, and Multiversal would equate to 1000 separate space time continuums. The entire DB Macrocosm is 12 universes of about 3 universal to infinite 3-D sized space time continuums

I wished that people weren't so toxic to each other and had fun when debating

Low-mid diff is crazy It’s literally neg diff speedblitz for the hedgehogs +they have way better abilities

so basically... this video is about infinite. thats real epic

i dare you to power scale biblically accurate angels and compare them to dragonball characters

I was about to roast you on the idea Infinite isn’t the strongest, I’m glad you took that out the video😂

Now I want to see an Equal Stats Fight between these two teams.

Ngl the cosmology difference is to high the db humans would one shot him and goku and vegeta could destroy the verse by existing

4:00 literally the power scaling in dragon ball after the battle of gods ☠️:

This FINALLY proved to my friend that Mario is losing against Sonic, none of that bullshit "oh but he got light speed reaction"! Like bro come on!😂

Personally I do think Goku and Vegeta could get past Solaris due to the use of Hakai, which is supposed to erase you from existence, even across timelines. The only reason this failed to kill Goku Black when present day Zamasu died was because of his time ring protecting him from changes to his personal timeline. So a combined hakai from both Vegeta and Goku could likely do the trick. However they still have a problem when it comes to fighting Infinite. One aspect of Infinite that wasn't mentioned in this video is that out of Shadow's own mouth, the copies of other characters Infinite creates are equal in strength to the originals. Its a bit awkward since Shadow says this line after one shotting his own copy, meaning Shadow is strong enough to one shot himself. Anyways, just Imagine if Infinite made multiple copies of Goku and Vegeta. A whole Army of them.

So I do have some issue with the dragon ball speed scaling as inaccessible and immeasurable are inconsistent with other feats, like why do characters still use teleportation if their combat speed is beyond teleportation ya know? Also for the sonic speed scaling the fight was Sonic in the PResent, Shadow in the Past, and Silver in the future. That isn't a speed feat, the best speed feat for inaccessible speed is being able to move in sonic generations hub world as it is a realm without time. And the other immeasureable speed arguments are fine.

I heavily disagree that the Daizenshuu and guide book statements surrounding DBZ aren't consistent enough. The statements surrounding the Dragon Ball cosmology were made by Toriyama himself and have never been directly contradicted by any other statements made by the writers or anything in the series itself. Even the Daizenshuu alone has many statements that directly say that the Dragon Ball universe is infinite in size with multiple universe sized realms and constructs that make up the macrocosm of universe 7. I don't know about you but that seems consistent enough to me. None of the statements are "inconsistent" at all since they only add upon each other. And even if this wasn't the case, Goku still has many feats in both the anime and manga that put him past 4D at a lowball when you scale him correctly.

Wow, that’s an interesting concept for power scaling

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Okay so game sonic is stronger than Goku now. Ohhh this is going to make some people unhappy with this.

Goku and Vegeta are powerful but they will be stopped by the Time Eater. The Time Eater was going to destroy all of Sonic’s cosmology which is high into 7D. Dragon Ball’s cosmology isn’t that big (5D) compared to Sonic’s. Sonic and Shadow would beat the verse since they both are comparable to each other and scale to their big feats, fought and defeated Solaris and Time Eater (two powerful deities that were going to destroy the cosmology which included Sonic’s Multiverse, Maginaryworld, and White Space.)

This was a pretty awesome scaling for the 2 duo's, also the fact that at the end of the frontiers DLC fight, the end is not only able to damage super sonic giving scratch's and stuff, but he was also able to knock him unconscious, in unleashed he did get tired from fighting dark gaia, but i think that's a bit understandable since dadk gaia is the embodiment of darkness with negative energy, and super sonic is mostly powered by positive energy, but yeah again awesome scaling for the 2 duo's mainly the hedgehog duo for me personally

The super hedgehogs don't scale to Solaris. Before I get into this I want to say I don't think it taking Silver, Sonic, and Shadow meant much. All are implied to be relative in their super forms and if one of them could exist in the past, present, and future just like Solaris you would really only need 1. With that out of the way I'll get into why I personally don't think the super hedgehogs scale to Solaris. Eggman himself thought it was impossible to destroy a super dimensional being. The team said they can't destroy its form, they had to mind rape Solaris. "Even if we can't stop his form, we can stop his consciousness!". To put the nail in the coffin Elise asks Sonic if we destroyed Solaris and he blatantly replies with No. Only way that makes sense is if he didn't beat Solaris or he was referring to him needing help from Silver and Shadow which I think we can both agree is not what was being implied. Still it can be used to give Team Sonic some good telepathy if you assume Solaris also has godlike mind resistance (Which is pretty unlikely given that they couldnt hurt his form and went to hurt his mind; wouldnt make sense if his mind is relative to his form) I do think the Time Eater point is valid to give the *Super Form* immeasurable speed. All though it's pretty clear Sonic wasn't doing that. Tails says they are travelling through time and space which means Sonic wasn't travelling outside time. "When that thing goes through time (referring to time eater)) it tears space apart leaving the areas empty and dead, and sticking them in this weird white limbo! When the sonic's *accelerate through time* they fix space, returning color and life!". Base Sonic in Generations probably doesn't scale to Perfect Chaos, he just found a new way to access it's weak spot (I.E, boost). Theres really nothing to assume Sonic in Adventure couldn't hurt Perfect Chaos, it's just that he couldn't get to it, his Super form allowed him to and now boosting allows him to. Eggman referring to Infinite as an "unstoppable creation" is very clearly hyperbole given... it's from Eggman, he always says his latest creation is his strongest and will be the one to defeat Sonic. As for the titans being stronger or as strong as beings like Solaris, just no. They are saying imagine if the first boss in Frontiers is as strong as the previous from a *gameplay standpoint*. As in, Sonic has to turn Super to defeat them. Without that and with Ian Flynn saying the end is cocky and arrogant it's pretty clear The End's scaling is hit or miss (Especially when you consider the titans can scale to weaker final bosses using that logic). Solaris wasn't susceptible to the Super Hedgehogs attacks as I already established. Solaris is still the strongest villain in Sonic. He probably does beat Goku and Vegeta but Sonic and Shadow probably stop somewhere at around Fat Buu with speed carrying them to this point.

I really liked this video great job. DBZ and Sonic are really fun to scale and battle against. You did a very good job not down playing either verse (imo)

The SSG multipler is basically SSJ3 Vegetio compared to Base Goku via Goku doubting the fusion would defeat Beerus. Just thought I'd mention that.

Which is stronger, Current game Sonic or Archie Sonic?

Bro the sonic vs goku was how I become a dragon ball fan bro! Thanks. SO. SONIC VS GOKU WHEN-

Great video and scaling bro

Nice video!

Use of the Caveman movie Instant sub

Definitely drop more sonic vids

ngl i'd watch a 1 hour video of going through all of their villains

Where is the Omni man vs word girl vid

Couldn't you argue chaos is universal as he absorbed the power of the chaos emerald as well as caling from shuffle

Awesome video! God Bless.

Dbs verse get humble by 2 hedgehog 💀 let's be real dragon ball author dnt care abt his own manga with such a trash powerscalling 😂😂😂

Sonic's powerscaling is kinda insane I mean I am a Sonic fan and I still think it's insane Considering that base Sonic should now be stronger then even Solaris My little spiky man solos

I would disagree with the assumption that each Titan from frontiers are all Solaris level characters. Because super sonic shadow and silver had to team up to take Solaris down together all at once. And only super sonic fought each titan.

I have a huge recommendation if I can? Could I get a measure on Speedrun Mario, from Terminal Montage, versus a speedster of your choice? I don't think anyone has calculated Speed-Run mario at all and would love to see a video on it.

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I can see them maybe beating Infinite. They don't beat Solaris, and even if they could they'd need a 3rd person (The best option they have is either Gohan or Future Trunks) to deal with the future since Solaris needed the hedgehog trio to beat. This isn't mentioned in the video and Sonic and Shadow are given all the credit for Solaris' defeat when Silver also played his part, taking on the future version. I'm not sure if it's already been brought up though

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If you did Freddy Krueger vs Pinhead using Power Scaling who would win?

some people said to me that sonic is weaker than goku because of ki difference like it's too dumb.

Ok not to be mean but can someone explain how hitting someone who I guess in this case exists in past present and future count as inaccessible speed?I really wanna know

Tbf, Using character from SDBH would be more fair than the canon one.

I know this vid is 2 months old but the sonic downscale is unreal base sonic has boundless to above Tiering metas

Highly disagree with Infinite being stronger than the Time Eater as the Time Eater wasn’t created by Eggman with it being explicitly stated that he found the creature in space after the events of Sonic Colours. So Infinite wouldn’t upscale from that on terms of being a “stronger” creation since he never made it in the first place. Also the Phantom Ruby that Infinite uses was a copy version thus doesn’t scale directly to any statement made to the original. Soooo Time Eater > Infinite. The rest of it I can take or leave it.

Timelines in the Sonic Universe don't follow the new Universe thing as Silver is 100% in the same timeline as Sonic as seen in the comics and Classic Era is in the same timeline aswell via Iyan Flynn's statements. The other timelines are basically completely seperate Multiverses meaning TimeEater and Infinite are Multiversal, The End is likely Multiversal + and Solaris can destroy multiple timelines so that puts them beyond Time itself making it 5D. And that's without considering the dimensionality of the Sonic verse. The same can be taken into account for the Dagon Ball verse.

sonic will be goku's next teacher

What if Devilman and Cyborg 009 swapped battles?

sonic will solo the rest dragon ball up until beerus arrives.

Pure facts.

Yo goji i can help your scale for goku , bc your scale for goku like 2017 type scalling

Goji chronic u finally respect sonic

Also, Solaris is still the most powerful Sonic villain as stated by Iyan Flynn. The order is TimeEater, Infinite, The End and Solaris.

Well, the main takeaway from this video for me is that Infinite is a lot stronger than I thought. And that makes me happy :)

Anyone gonna talk about how sonic dies to tiny robots that are like goombas? Let’s not take game feats lol

now I can agree with this because you did this without statements, other than the stuff that says all the dimensions in the macrocosum are infinite in size, but I have some statements that can get Goku to outer, if you wanna see them I'd like to give you them through discord (if you have it) and we can discuss Goku's level of power on there

Damn every DB character gets wiped on Goji Chronic's channel

What editing software you use?

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Infinite if he was in a tv series would have required super Sonic at least to defeat him but was defeated by base Sonic and User

Wait don’t we all exist in the past present and future idk it’s a kinda wanly statement for immeasurable speed because I exist in the past the present and the future at the same time idk

Welp its over for Kakarot and prince Vegeta

The macrocosm from battle of gods contains a super dimensional realm being the dimension of lights... and you argue that with solaris.. so anyone scaling above the macrocosm would scale above solaris AP. And dragon ball has fused zamasu scaling to the timeline and spreading to multiple others and goku believed he could beat him. Thats literally a stronger Solaris, existing all through time, merging with other timelines and timelines being infinitely greater than everything containing, which is atleast multiversal+ because you think the macrocosm is low multiversal. Theres a surprising amount of info you either forgot, didnt see or ignored

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We don't even know how strong A full power end is Sonic was fighting a weakened version of it I can imagine how Strong a full power would be

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Do the same thing but with Luffy and Naruto 🍷🗿

We need sonic vs goji

Good thing you didnt use any comic sonic and shadow, the drsgon ball meat riders would be really pissed

They could only beat solaris because they time travelled to 3 points in time due some 4D stuff

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Can you do other sonic characters scaling like silver, blaze and surge. Along with sonic and shadow they are the top 5 strongest main character( sorry knuckles)

Nobody show him the death battle between shadow vs vegeta

Solaris one doesn't make sense tho. Like isn't he supposed to be omnipresent plus he also exist in present, past and the future so you need to attack him from three different timelines to defeat him. I mean yeah strength wise super sonic (frontiers) or super sonic 2 or infinite or even supreme might be stronger than solaris but in order to defeat him they need to attack him for three different timelines at the same time.

Okay I wanna say something for the manga scalers Why does everyone say manga goku hasnt absorbed the god power? It wasnt explicitly stated, but if he just lost the power then that also means Beerus weaked himself for the rest of the fight, and that defeats the purpose of even continuing in the first place. Goku's tenacity is what let Beerus keep the earth around, he would immediately wipe out goku if he lost that power in the manga because that surge is gone.

Sonic Prime is not canon just because the director says so. Literally no one else besides him has said that. It would make absolutely no sense. I'm sure you could argue that it's canon as an alternate universe but it's definitely not part of the main timeline at all whatsoever.

Incase you doubt how strong Dragon Ball characters are in the manga compared to the anime, keep in mind that Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball apparently share the same Earth, which is 4 billion km in circumference. Now with that in mind I make calculations where I scaled up everything based on that (you’re welcome), these are the results: Destroying the Moon gets you at 1.233425 Foe or Large Star Level Destroying the Earth gets you at 2232.1527 Foe or Solar System Level The most reasonable calculation for destroying Planet Vegeta puts you at 1469772.062 Foe which is much higher into Solar System level And destroying Dragon Ball’s Solar System can land you between 24.147418 TeraFoe to 603.6854 YottaFoe And who knows how much stronger the characters are in the Buu saga, it’s not out of the realm for there to be Universal characters like possibly Vejito

I've seen people say that goku beats Archie sonic, but this is so funny

Oh brother, This Guy STINKS. 😂

Day 1 of asking for Evangelion units vs shin godzilla.

Im starting to think no I am convinced that infinite was straight warping reality in forces, because how did he make a portal to the null space (maybe the phantom ruby could just do that), but more importantly when he makes that mini sun at the end of the game eggman is really confident that the sun isn't also going to kill him along with everyone else and also destroy the planet, im pretty sure reality has to be messed with so that the mini sun doesn't kill eggman and destroy the planet.(infinite is most likely spared from or immune to the effects of the phatom ruby as the person using it) The fact eggman can see the sun and is surprised it disappeares implys he's under the effects of the phantom ruby or atleast that you don't have to be under it's effect to see it's "illuions" and it's establsihed early on in the game that the "illusions" the phantom ruby creates effects the real world around it last i checked thats not how illusions work they don't have solid mass and can't effects the world around them the phantom ruby grants the user or straight up has the ability to warp or atleast mess with reality in some way

Time eater>>>solaris