What if Haymitch had participated in the 75th Hunger Games? 

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Imagine if Haymich won the quarter quell then he be the first tribute to win two quarter quells Yes every other tribute will be famous because of winning two games but Haymich would win two games with big a twist

I think that Haymitch rather than being paralysed by his PTSD would become more determined and would turn his attention to keeping Katniss alive meaning he would have gone with her when they put the coil of wire in the beach and would’ve come to District 13 with her

Ok but just imagine Haymitch and Katniss in the tribute parade .......-.- Edit: Thanks for the likes guys 😃

In his original hunger games the second quarter quell, Haymitch was fast, agile, strong, skilled with a knife, and intelligent as he outsmarted one of the district 1 females that year with the forcefield+axe stunt that got his family and girlfriend killed because he made the Capitol look like idiots. Yeah Haymitch still retains that intelligence and possibly that dormant strength, but Katniss states that he's out of shape when the the three of them were training for the third quarter quell. And since Haymitch has been a drunkard for 25 years, how would that affect his performance in the arena? would that cause him to think irrationally? Alcohol withdrawal might be a major weakness for Haymitch, especially against the career tributes Cashmere, Gloss, Brutus and Enobaria. But he'd have the help of Katniss, Finnick, Johanna, who are skilled fighters and maybe Blight if he hadn't died by hitting the forcefield. And destroying the arena's forcefield would be major de ja vu for him because that forcefield was both a blessing and a curse for him 25 years earlier. But in the end, the rebel victors' plan would probably still come to pass

Firstly imagine haymitch in the get up for the parades Secondly haymitch would be very important and I can't think of anything extra to what you said

Hamitch would be good in the quarter quell because he won the quarter quell will double the amount of tributes

He would have to use code language to Peeta to explain the rebel plan and send him messages in the arena, He would try his best to protect Katniss but due to his addictions and old age, it would be unlikely he would survive this event or be rescued as district 13 would find him useless in the rebellion

There’s one major thing that hasn’t been mentioned: Brutus. Brutus would still kill Chaff, but Haymitch most likely wouldn’t be able too kill Brutus. This would lead too Brutus most likely getting out of the arena with Enobaria. If Haymitch had been at the same place Peeta had been, I still don’t believe Haymitch would’ve been able to kill Brutus, even if he was weakened by Chaff. He would most likely be going through withdrawal and unable to fight. This means he’d either be killed be Brutus or spared. If killed, this would be very traumatising too Katniss and would affect the story in huge amounts. What do you guys think?

I think Haymitch is one of the greatest because he is the only alive survivor of a quarter quell.He won the games with 48 tributes.I think the games would have been interesting too.I find Haymitch a great entertaining character. Btw live your vids

You and Movieflame are the only channels I watch for Hunger Games lol.

Ironically: I think the 'power' of choice should be given to the one reaped, they should be able to choose consent for the volunteers to take their place. After all, wouldn't the Capitol want their tributes to initially see the games as more of a lucky honor, than a hopeless damnation?

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Since Haymitch knew, he would have had to be saved. If he let out that information, it would be game over for the rebels. It would be likely that Snow would keep an eye on Haymitch, as he had upset him before in the 2nd Quater Quell.

It is interesting but I don't think he would survive to the point he could be rescued I think he would have died since I don't think he would be a great swimmer so he could have drowned while getting to the cornucopia, If he did survive the bloodbath he could have died in the same spot Mags died or since he is an easy target be killed instead of Wiress or with Wiress. But I really don't think he would have survived the games.

Thanks for taking my mind off of the uncertainty in our world for a few minutes!

That would have been risky for haymitch to be in the games knowing what he knew. I think he he would have found a way to be killed or kill himself before the capitol would get anything out of him.

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Okay but why did Effie sound relieved when she called Haymitch. Did she know Peeta would volunteer? Was she glad it *wasn't* Peeta? *I DON'T KNOW*

casually watching all your videos now I watched the songbird and snakes movies hahahahaha. Personally I think MOVIE Haymitch would have a good shot at winning another quarter quell, like the addiction withdrawal and PTSD he would definitely be able to annihilate a bunch of people before someone like Brutus would kill him. Considering everything Haymitch has gone through, that darkness and violence within him would help a lot for the movie version of him. A lot of people want to see his games and his story written and adapted and I am one of those people!!!!!!

He would sacrifice himself.

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It’s so backwards Haymitch was reaped so Peeta went in So if Peeta was reaped Haymitch would have gone in SEEMS LEGIT

I’m a Slytherin too!!!

Wouldn’t Haymitch be the first and only victor to have been part of two quarter quells?

I’ve binged watch all your videos and I love them it really makes you think what if all this happened

It is also likely that if Peeta’s name was called at the reaping, Haymitch May not have volunteered for him. Haymitch has a critical role in the rebel plan and if he would go into the arena, Peeta would have to absorb a lot of information in a very short amount of time. Also Peeta has absolutely no mentoring experience or experience dealing with sponsors. That said, by Haymitch going back on his word to Katniss to volunteer for Peeta, it could have certainly changed the dynamic of their relationship much earlier on where she never trusts him again.

I was under the impression that they couldn’t save Peeta and Johanna because they still had their trackers in their arms. Johanna cut Katniss’s out shortly before the end, but no one was around to do the same for Peeta, and perhaps Johanna didn’t have time to cut out her own before being knocked out. Unless there’s more context in the books, which I wouldn’t know about. I’d love to know!

Great Video. My friends think I'm strange that Haymitch is my favourite character but he has such a interesting character. Very interesting theory to think about. PS. I,m glad that this video came out today as its my bday and it was very enjoyable to watch. 🎂🎉🎈

What if Tresh had killed Katniss after he killed Clove?

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That is a top notch explanation

Wait what if there was no living victors in one district

Love this Jess!!!! I’ve thought about this in the past and it’s awesome hearing what you think!

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Im just here for the new makeup color

You should do a Lyme character spotlight as little is know about her and when you are doing the character Spotlights you should name their appearance difference as finnick is described as olive skinned and green eyes but in the movie blue eyed and tanned skinned so you should name their differences

Heres how I think it would play out: Katniss is the first to the Cornucopia, followed quickly by Finnick. Haymitch didn't manage to give Finnick the bracelet so Katniss nearly kills him before Haymitch gets between them and quickly explains. They kill a handful of tributes before running from the island. Unfortunately feel that this delay might lead to Mags' death, so their alliance is down to three. Somehow they meet Chaff in the jungle and they team up with him (I wish Cedar was their too but I think she died in the bloodbath). Johanna, Beetee, Blight and Wiress meet up with the other four on the beach. They find out about the arena being a clock and I think that Wiress would die again, however it's possible that the careers wouldn't attack due to the fact that the Rebel Alliance has double the amount of people compared to the career alliance. Chaff would go after Brutus and maybe drown him under the water, nearly dying himself. Cashmere and Gloss are killed by Katniss and Johanna, leaving Enobaria as the last career. Also dont forget that Haymitch is very good with knives, so its possible that he gets a few kills as well. Without both of the careers to stop the plan, the team all gets to the lightning tree and is rescued. Another Hover craft gets Peeta, Annie and Effie. With her time away from Peeta I think Katniss would realize that she only wants to be friends, and in the end she never gets married. After the war there would be 11 living Victors: Enobaria, Beetee, Wiress, Finnick, Annie, Johanna, Blight, Chaff, Katniss, Peeta and Haymitch. When it comes to the vote for the final games with the capitols children. the votes are as follows. For the games: - Katniss (rue still dies) - Haymitch (with the mockinjay) - Johanna (badass) - Enobaria (badass) - Blight (with Johanna and also PTSD and revenge) - Chaff (same as Blight) - Wiress (probably the first time that she disagrees with Beetee, the trauma that she faces and the everyday struggles of her disability are both from her games, she wants revenge.) Against the games: - Finnick (sees hope in his child and just how savage the games are) - Annie (same as Finnick) - Peeta (hes tired of the conflict) -Beetee "we need to stop seeing each other as enemies" So yeah, the 76th Hunger Games take place with the Capitols children. The children are reaped from a singular ball in the City Centre in the Capitol, and they are all the children of Snows accomplices, sort of switching the roles for why the games happened in the first place. Your parents did something bad so you have to suffer. I have a feeling that these games would be interesting because the Capitol children had access to the older games like the careers, possibly making them even more deadly than their district counterparts.

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I think of this was what it actually was it would be really cool to see the different dynamics with Katniss and haymitch both in the games

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I know that Peeta and katniss had to go to the quarter quell together because of the star crossed lovers, etc but it would've been so interesting to see haymitch in the games.

What if you are born 1 to 6 years after a quarter quell and never get reaped? Sounds very, very lucky

The lore was always so intriguing to me. The writing, let’s face it, is good enough for the basic subject matter. It leaves a lot to be desired. I love this channel for the lore behind it all.

I think if Haymitch was in the Games with Katniss, D13 would NEED to prioritize getting him or Peeta out with Katniss, because she would need one to help her cope with not having the other. Haymitch helped Katniss be the Mockingjay by holding the meeting to show how Katniss moved people, and later was the only one she went to when she broke down for Peeta. Next to Peeta, he is arguably her biggest source of comfort and security (aside from Gale) And if they got Peeta instead of Katniss, he could give her the strength she needed to be the Mockingjay. He could even be with her on camera, and if the Star Crossed Lovers supported the same side, they could even get Capitolites to rebel. And, Peeta could comfort Katniss when it came to missing Haymitch, as he was the one she was closest to out of the captured Victors. So if Katniss didn't have either, she would have fallen apart. D13 would need to prioritize getting at least one of them out.

an interesting topic, and a nice video!

One little Thing...as an American who has lived in London for nearly a Decade & can understand any Amount of Cockney,...& has read the Trilogy more than once in English & in Translation in 2 other Languages I would have greatly appreciated English Subtitles to your Video so I could figure out what you were saying...(which sounded really interesting).

I need to stop watching the videos about Catching fire until I finish reading it! I can't tho, this is too good.. :(

Awesome vid!

I believe if Haymitch competed, he would likely turn to suicide. If that weren't an option, he might turn to other addictions, such as urine consumption, or ask, possibly even force, another tribute to kill him. Or maybe he might trick the Capitol into killing him, such as in a situation like Titus, a tribute mentioned in the first novel, who started eating the tributes he killed. It is thought by Katniss that the avalanche that killed him was manufactured by the Capitol.

Are you sure that you're a Slytherin?Your theories,and the way you explain sound a lot like a ravenclaw :))

Peeta would have still been captured if Haymitch volunteered as tribute for Peeta, just like Annie was captured by the capitol and she didn't participate in the quarter quell. Finnicks weakness is his love for Annie. Just like Katniss's weakness is her love for Peeta. Haymitch volunteering for Peeta wouldn't make a difference as I think Peeta would have still been captured by the capitol.

Thank you for this video! What would’ve happened if Plutarch wasn’t the Head Gamemaker of the Games? If the gamemaker was just like Seneca Crain (not a part of the rebels) do you think Katniss would’ve survived?

I really love your videos on THG!!! I hope your baby will be a nice healthy boy/girl :) Also I would love to see a video on Gale (If there isn't one already) Enjoy maternity leave

First! I love this video and your channel!!!!

If Haymitch was in the 3rd quarter quell he would be the first tribute to be in two quarter quells. P.S. love the shirt!

I this Woody Harris is the perfect person to play the drunk, lonely, and tired Haymitch

First in the books it shows peeta taking on the mentorship role by having them all 3 train. Also it is clearly started that Haymitch had stopped drinking. I think he started again after peeta was for sure going to go into the games. Also is would not beed to be recused because he would know the plan cut out his own tracker. A reminded they didnt save peeta and joanna because the capital could fallow them. So all 3 oh them would end up in district 13 peeta, Katniss, and Haymitch. The change now would be that non of the victories would be saved until after the war was over because there is no point in saving them before.

Awesome video! I have a video suggestion that I’ve been thinking about quite a lot recently, who would have won the 75th Hunger Games if the rebel plan never ended up happening? (If the games were played as normal games, without all of the rebels teaming up). Just a suggestion, thank you!

As much as I would’ve loved to see Haymitch in the 75th Games, I think he had much lower survival odds than Peeta so it wouldn’t have worked storywise. He’s a longtime alcoholic in withdrawal who’s much older and less fit. Probably not going to make it very far. Would’ve been interesting though that he would’ve been the only tribute to be in two quarter quells. I think if it had been him in the games, he most likely would’ve died protecting Katniss somehow. And it also would’ve been a total mess briefing Peeta on the whole thing in the span of a week and having him play mentor for the first time. He would’ve been spared the whole hijacking torture situation, but I don’t know if he would’ve been able to pull off the plan to get Katniss out. So it’s probably best that it was Peeta in the 75th, at least for the rebellion.

In either case, he's dead, because he would have died in the arena to protect Katniss, if necessary, but then, when the rescue happens, if 13 didn't pick him up, he'd die in the Capitol to guard all the information he had. Other than Plutarch, Haymitch was probably the only other person who knew the entire plan.

hey girl, insightful takes you've put together., im a psychologist from eastern africa i think haymitch would have been fine. when people face extreme trauma repetitively as haymitch has done due to being in and out of the arena he would have a unique insight of getting 1 more sponsers from friends that survived but also from his expericene of killing twice as many people than the rest of the victors. also trauma resistance is a funny thing, enough of the same trauma can cause someone to bounce back so much fast as they live in constant survival mode, their dreams them how to avoid certain new traps daily so it he would have had more being the only district 12 mentor, typically it daily activities like bathing jobs eating well that they truly struggle with, as we see haymitch struggles with. a bouncy ball doesnt know how not to bounce, haymitch is that.

I love your channel!! I love Hunger Games!

ok but imagine Haymitch in the fire suit and actually burning because he drank something before. That gives "catching fire" a whole new meaning...

It’d be cool to see Peeta and Katniss to mentoring the tributes of the next hunger games. Too bad that the uprising happened before the next hunger games

First of all excuse me, for I have only seen the movies (although my books are already shipping so don't worry I WILL read them), but I always felt that Effie was involved in the reaping. It just seemed extremely coincidental to me that it was Haymitch who was reaped and it passed exactly as he and Katniss had already talked about, Peeta would volunteer. It wouldn't have mattered, in my opinion, if Peeta's name was the one reaped, after all Effie had the last word, and it would always be Haymitch regardless of what was written on the paper.

THIS WOULD’VE BEEN INTERESTING

It would've been interesting to see Haymitch as a tribute, but I would've been more interested to see what would've happened with Peeta being the mentor. The rebels would have to loop him in on enough info so that he could assist with their plans, but how much would they actually have told him? And how would he respond to their plan? I'm sure he'd be onboard with the rescue mission, but since he's not into war, would he really become a rebel, or just play along until Katniss was safe? That's what I've always wondered. Also, love your vids 👍

Can you please do:what if Katniss never pulled out those berries

Never underestimate the life long alcoholic in the hunger games XD

In my opinion it was already set up for Haymitch name to be picked first in the reaping probably by rigging the ballots. Plutarch had it already planned for Haymitch to be helping on the sidelines recruiting the victors to assist Katniss in the arena..which wouldn't be possible if Peeta wasn't reaped because Peeta would be useless in recruiting the past victors because he didn't know them in that way in which Haymitch did.So Haymitch knew he couldn't be reaped..so the plan was for him to be picked first ,knowing Peeta would volunteer..which allowed for Haymitch to help behind the scenes.Everthing was set up by Plutarch and Haymitch...the games and the reaping...to initiate the rebellion....it didn't make sense that the reaping wouldn't be set up either

Haymitch is fast and killed three careers coming at him he is fast and has good survival knowledge

He will be the only tribute to participate in 2 quarter quell

You should do a video about what if Katniss was taken by the capitol at that point instead of Peeta and what whould have happened to the rebel plan. How would have Peeta reacted to this? Would Katniss have been Hijacked like he was?

I think that he would struggle quite a bit in the beginning but the fact that he is crucial to the larger plan would motivate him to keep going, for the rebels and the rebellion

imagine if haymitch went into 2 quarter quells

It would be interesting to have one video about the first quarter quell

I think you should do what if Katniss Peeta and Rue were the last tribute standing

Did you know that out of Effie, Katniss, Haymitch, and Peeta, their last names spell team? Trinket, Everdeen, Abernathy, Mellark. T-E-A-M.

Obliviously this is based off the movie instead of the book, because in the book Peeta finds Katniss and Haymitch passed out drunk and gets angry with them. However the 3 come up with a plan that Peeta and Katniss would train like careers to go into the arena and if Haymitch was reaped (which he was) then Peeta would go in. I kinda like the idea that Haymitch and Katniss had a secret plan though, that Haymitch (like in the movie) would volunteer as tribute if Peeta was called. We know from the book that Haymitch stopped drinking in order to focus on Katniss and Peeta's training and to be a good mentor, so the issue of him going through withdrawal wouldn't be as bad as you describe. He will still suffer, especially with the PTSD, however I don't think it would be as devastating. I also think since Haymitch was aware of the rebel plan to escape, he would have accompanied Katniss with the coil to the beach instead of Johanna. The other victors wouldn't have to worry about Katniss splitting off with Haymitch because he would know to stick with the group until the rescue. I do believe Haymitch would have attempted to remove Katniss's tracker if he realised their plan was about to fail. I then believe he would have sacrificed himself to the career tributes in order for her to be saved. Would be extremely interesting.

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I think Haymitch would do fine in the arena, actually. In the book, he stays sober for several weeks until the reaping so he most likely wouldn't have problems with withdrawal. Personally, I think his alcoholism is somewhat exaggerated by Katniss. He stays at least mostly sober throughout both of their Games without going into major withdrawal and copes pretty well with the withdrawal in the second book. He's clear headed through all of it, able to mentor them extremely well, while also secretely planning a revolution. He couldn't do that if his addiction was as bad as Katniss makes it out to be. I really like your point about PTSD. However, I think survival instinct would probably kick in big time once they got into the arena and he simply wouldn't have the time to think about anything else but survival. Unless he'd get trapped with the birds, that would probably not be pretty. In terms of what he brings to the arena: Just like Betee and Wiress, it would be his intelligence. While he lacks physical strength, there are tributes (like Betee and the camouflage-guys) who didn't need pyhsical strength to win. Haymitch won his Games based on his intelligence in the end, not because of his strength (even though he did use it), and he'd be able to again use that to his advantage. I actually think his biggest weakness would be Katniss. He'd go out of his way to protect her, just like Finnick does with Megs, and he could make mistakes because of that. I could also definitely see him sacrificing himself for Katniss in some way.

i feel like it's just such a weird thing that they intentionally set up the fact that the year haymitch won was a quarter quell and then just not have him go in for the second one?? like in the canon case he could have won any old year. i feel like it would have been much more interesting if he went just to see how he would react to everything. a whole thing with catching fire that made it interesting was seeing how past victors won and how they dealed after how they're reacting to everything now and it would've developed him so much.. hes an example of a victor who couldn't healthily cope w the psychological events of the games and seeing how that might affect him in the arena. it just makes so much more sense thematically. I'm probably biased just because i want to see more of him and Katniss and Peeta's love story is more important, but peeta was pretty much incapacitated half the time anyway so its not like we'd lose much of that. i bet they could even keep peeta's baby comment bc the capitol would want to get peeta's thoughts to help pacify the districts and sell the story so he can say that just not as a player, they get a clip from him earlier.

There is an amazing fanfiction series by deathmallow on AO3 that goes into this concept. Anyone who wants to read an in-depth exploration of Haymitch as a character and an AU where Haymitch goes into the arena in the Quell should check it out.

In the books it was stated that Haymitch was winded easily when running for a short period of time. Not only would he be out of shape his withdrawal symptoms with him being in a hostile environment would make him on edge rather quickly which would often get himself hurt or perhaps even killed in the arena despite Katniss and Finnick doing their best to save him.

I'd love to see a video about what would have happened if there was no rebellion after the 75th games. What would Katniss and Peeta be like as mentors etc.?

Haymich has his problems but he was smart and harsh. He’d be like releasing a shrewd but wild animal. He’d plot and attack. I don’t think he’d ignore Beetee and Wiress like some of the others. Maybe he’d deteriorate over time, but he’d go in strong. If rescued he might not be too much worse for wear. The alcoholism and PTSD would be intense and horrible problems, so they could pull him down but he’d have some plans in place before ever entered the arena.

Also great video I forgot to mension

The alcohol coping mechanism would have slowed his senses down and made his endurance way worse. The mist of poison or acid or whatever it is would likely have killed him. He could be strong, but I’d rather be fast and run away from conflict rather than be strong and have to face conflict head on

Hey!! As far as I remember, in the movies, Haymich and Effie end up together at the end? At least I like to believe they actually do❤️ I'd be interested to hear your opinion on this, maybe even a whole video :)

Haynitch might have been able to get Chaff on Katniss's side. Maybe even the Career pack.

Just an idea (once you start making new videos again) what if thresh hadnt died like he had killed cato so it would be Katniss, peeta,thresh and fox face you dont have to just an idea

Why are the careers called careers?

Can you make a video about what would happen if Brutus killed Peeta

is it just me who thinks catching fire may have been like a lot better with haymitch instead of Peeta going into the arena becuase we already saw how katniss and Peeta coped in an arena together but there was a lot of character and relationship development during the 75 games so I don't know

I’d also love if you could say your top 10 or top 20 hunger games characters

what if there where no living victors left in that district of one gender or both? what would happen then hmm

Well he could put that alcohol into some deadly use if you know what i mean🔥 :D

If District 13 decided NOT to rescue Haymitch in this situation, that would be terrible... But maybe Katniss would make them, in order for her to follow along.