What If Japan Was Never Hit By Nuclear Bombs 

Oh no

Cleverly worded.

World would still be colonized

Then it would be ww2 of USA vs Russia

Forgiving? Their top art was modernist trash

I read that he worked for mitsubishi. And he hold world record of surviving most nuclear attack

@@M_H_H 😂

Man just said, not today , never

@@M_H_H What a f*cked up record. Why does that exist?

@@digimonlover1632 ask guiness

Even though Japan had offered to surrender by that point, before the bombs dropped, their terms were much more inline with a ceasefire. They wanted to continue their war in China, they wanted to keep all the territory they conquered, they wanted to keep their generals, they basically just wanted to stop fighting the US, and with documents obtained after the war, it was very apparent that they were planning to attack the US again after rebuilding their army. Conditional surrender was just not an option, and sadly the bombs were really the best choice to officially bring such a horrible conflict to an end.

This is why having too much courage and confidence is actually bad

It’s weird to think the Japanese government during ww2 was kind of like how North Korea is portrayed. Or killing all politicians who disagreed with the army and being fantasists. The army not cooperating with the navy. The Japanese citizen’s future or well-being being way way low in the list of priorities.

cause they were scared of the russians, better to surrender to the americans

@@spinning_ice1487 nah

My gramps stormed Normandy. That had to have been scary as f*ck. He said he watched several units get sprayed down by the Germans before they even got to the shore.

@@justinklinck6575 Such a hellish war. My grandfather wasn't at Normandy, but he did participate in the landings at Anzio and earned his Combat Infantry Badge in the big German push to force the Allies off the beachhead and back into the ocean. The actually landings went very smoothly with very little resistance.

@@american_cosmic our Grandpa's are lucky bada**es. Lol

@@justinklinck6575 Lol yes indeed

My Great-Grandfather was on Okinawa when they raised the flag. He said they had a extra leg in the statue.

Moral of the story is don't fk with the assumed caretaker for the chaotic good.

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@@dantesinferno9circlesofHELL what kind of drugs were you taking when you made that comment?

@@Basedapple another sheep, wow.... you really told me off ......SASMF

@@dantesinferno9circlesofHELL I’m a sheep? , for calling you out on your emoji made comment..wow, you really are on drugs .

@BeansAreGood L + Ratio

@@eatchildhood6919 cringe

@BeansAreGood true but he's right

Tbh they still would have surrendered. As said in the video, the fire bombings killed as many people and the picture appears to shows equal amounts of damage as a nuke. A firebombing every other day would be like dropping a nuke every week or so.

Idiotic comment to think dropping not one but two nukes on civilians is a tiny thing in history.

ans how many people remember that Chinese capital during war, Chonqing, get bombed by the Japanese for 6 or 7 years?

@@Emilechen ahh yes because they did it means we are allowed to do it

Wth why would they attack tokyo where emperor lives when they want them to surender

@@cluster4583 Tokyo as in the city not specifically in the Imperial Palace

If someone is doing a terrible thing, doing a terrible rhing by necessity to stop them is okay if they would otherwise continue.

Why would a normal soldier from the Philippines would know about the atomic bomb

@@thenorthstarsamurai maybe because Philippines was a US colony

@@Typhoon457 that doesn't make sense since the atomic bomb was literally a secret weapon

The 2 atomic bombs actually saved more lives. It's sad but it's the only way.

@@BlueEthereal ye but we delivered 2 instead and it wasnt there favourite

no right no wrong just history imagine a world were the Allies used Germany to destroy communism

@@BlueEthereal Pearl Harbor and the atomic bombs aren’t comparable at all lol.

@@freddiemercury2075 you know that the Japanese were ready to surrender BEFORE the bombs, right?

Just watch “the man in the high castle”

Parallel universe

@@zerocool497 will do. Never heard of it

History is written by the winners

Can u explain more to what u mean ? Its kinda interesting

Like many areas in modern day Syria. Or places flooded for filing dams. Or the cultural revolution. I wonder if there was any old cultural stuff left in North Korea after the Korean War

I’m glad you included that last sentence because Japan literally did this to the countries it conquered during this time period.

yk the Americans originally wanted to nuke kyoto but they saw the historical value of the city and believed that they shouldnt destroy it so they set up to nuke a different city. Unfortunately, that city had bad cloud cover so they dropped fat man in Nagasaki

the Dark ages says alot alot of missing historic records.

@@lorelei4468 Mexico and Canada and 32 other countries is America too.

Japan were masochists who are proud to be the only nation being nuked. If 2 nukes weren't enough to end an empire, then they must not be as powerful as they want us to believe.

I actually learn more in comments then in the actual video

Cannon Merryweather. I agree, there are a lot of inaccurate details in this video that are stated as fact.

I have one question for you where are your resources for that information

@@sapporoichiban3612 I want to know where your resources are to prove that

@@sapporoichiban3612 do any of those comments list where they got that information from no but you want to know who does the infographic show

It ain't amazing

If japan wins*

This is why we should never play with nukes

@T Jain oh you never heard of Japanese war crimes?

@T Jain I don't think he's being disrespectful at all. You should watch Barefoot Gen; it's an anime about the Hiroshima bombing.

@Jarcher. Except that some of the things mentioned are up for debate among war historians.

@@sapporoichiban3612 Cocos in Yokosuka is better than Sapporos, aho

Unbiased?

The Victors write History.

Lol like it unbiased. The one where they speculate about America fighting the world ends with America winning. So some of the videos are very biased.

xD

I mean....

Catholics call their clergy priests not all American Christians or others.

@@lukeshaul820 Mexico and Canada and 32 other countries is America too.

@@lukeshaul820 The United States is actually using a name of a continent. We are U.S. citizens. Citizens of the United States. The United States is a country but America its not a country America its a continent. The whole entire continent was already named America 269 years way before the United States of America became a nation or even existed.

How to grind likes?

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@@normal_person4879 I didn’t even notice how much I had

I appreciate the fact that it shows how bad the public education system is. People should have learned this at school not from a short RU-vid video.

@@10tailedbijuu that doesn't change the fact that people should have learned this in school. Teachers can present the information exactly like that.

bombed some sense into em

they finally came back to reality

@@briondalion3696 oh there goes rabbit, he choked

@@varadsawant8870 He's so mad but he WON'T

@@MisterGoodDad give up that easy, no

Don't make things up

@@healermusic4734 what's wrong little girl? Reality doesn't fit into your opinion?

@@wumps-gaming that's completely false the bombs had nothing to do with Stalin

@@ricefarmerjawsh7653 they were to show Stalin what we were Capable of. So yeah in a way they were aimed at Stalin

@@ricefarmerjawsh7653 im pretty sure thats true

The main reason Japan ended up losing air superiority was because all of their veteran pilots were dying in those kamikaze attacks. It's hard to argue the "zero's" effectiveness against the much slower and heavier allied aircraft. In a lot of weird ways, WWII ended because of miscalculations made by Axis powers...not to say had they not made those mistakes that the Allies wouldn't have still won, but the war would have went on for much longer and caused way more destruction globally.

Japan had almost no fuel left and Kamikaze attacks usually lost less men with more destruction than regular attacks. The statement that they were horrible but effective is definitively correct.

Your average kamikaze pilot was barely trained to fly an aircraft, a lot of them were volunteers with no previous military experience. The veteran Japanese pilots were typically used as escorts for the kamikazes.

@@zackfox5222 By the time the Kamikaze tactics were employed, the Japanese pretty much were running out of use for their experienced pilots anyway. They were very low on fuel and raw material to make and run those planes. Experienced pilots or rookies, it mattered very little.

Is there proof of this figure?

Definitely about winning the war

@@AmmoR1des clearly you're a child for not understanding the differences

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@@Mckiller120 what don't you understand?

How did your teacher take it?

How ironic it is that USA braggs about world peace and at the same time want dictatorship for themselves in the world

@@chandrakantsingh5605 ? Dictatorship? Tell me why you’re on an American platform with your own functioning government. Tell me why the UN is a thing. And tell me how China was communist for a quarter century when they held no threat to the US.

@@gallaugal9099 firstly sir please check how "us platform" created this monopoly and secondly we are talking about this bombing and it is being justified. About china sir it's people choice weather they like communism or not neither I nor u have this right

@@chandrakantsingh5605 It’s interesting to see that you learned kind revisionism in history. If you were Japanese who live in the Mid-1930’s and enlisted to the IJA, you were transferred to your unit in Nanjing, do you accept the orders from your superior officer?

@@Romanov117 Brother please understand what I am saying and about whom I am saying please

@@emmw7794 no. the Russians had just taken all of the japanese Teratory on mainland aisa and were well with in range of sending ships to invade Japan. The japanese dident fear an American invasion. They saw that as survivable but that thought the Russians would invade them first and force communism on them.

Russia was the real reason Japan surrendered. Only (ignorant) americans think nukes were the reason lol

@@autarchyan5426 Hey. I am an American

@@-WorldatWar I said "ignorant" americans indeed. I did not say every american is ignorant. There are ignorants in every country. Pay attention to words bro

sorry

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@@meetbarkade1389huh?

That's the really scary thing is how 76 years after the Atomic Bombings America is still using the Purple Hearts that were prepared for a ground invasion of Japan one of those Purple Hearts was awarded to a Nam veteran my father used to work for

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 We knew how the Japanese fought at that point. We'd be fighting all the civilians too

what you mean trying to ?? the only alternative was a ground invasion of Japan that would have cost 1 million US Soldiers and probably 5-15 million Japanese people and another bad thing is you probably have Russia invading the North of Japan then you would have Russian Occupied Japan

@@kurtpunchesthings2411 Japan's surrender was determined by the Soviet invasion of Japan before dawn on August 9. The Soviet Union has a treaty with Japan, and Japan has requested the Soviet Union to mediate peace, but with the participation of the Soviet Union, that possibility has disappeared. The historical fact is that the surrender of Japan was decided in a place unrelated to the atomic bomb.

Till today? unlikely. Look at Germany.

@@axeldashaar Yeah~ who would've thought the Soviet Union Bloc collapsed 😂 perhaps should say.. eventually will collapse..

@@axeldashaar Look at Korea.

@@Emigdiosback Korea is still divided because North Korea invaded South Korea. Which is largely due to the fact that Korea was not a separate country but a colony long before World War II. Which finally makes the country's efforts more vigorous, but also makes it more difficult because there was no general consensus in the country at the time. This was admittedly encouraged by the occupier's imposed ideals, but the aggression came from Kim Il-Sung. Kim Il-Sung urged Stalin to allow and support the incursion. Another point is the return of ethnic Koreans from the Soviet Union to North Korea, which further strengthened communism there and thus widened the gap between the partial countries. Overall, Japan's theoretical situation would be more comparable to Germany than to its colony of Korea, also because it was an initial force in the war. The end of the Soviet Union at the latest would probably have led to agreement. On the one hand, because Japan was less inclined to the USA and the western world than to the Soviet Union, China and the Eastern bloc and on the other hand, because in the event of a war after the fall of the Soviet Union, the former occupied area of ​​the West would have been vastly superior due to its support .

Soviets didn't have the proper equipment to invade Japan. Even the Japanese by the time of surrender had a better navy than the Soviers.

A Nation that was extremely loyal, had a warriors culture and wasn't afraid of death, was afraid of comunisum makes no sense as an argument mate.... What were they afraid of? They would all be dead and the comunist are putting there feet on there soil that was there's but now isn't.... How horrific... hahaha! They called for the death of 100million Japanese to the last man woman and child to fight, the bombs took away their ability to fight, all the soviets did was just adding more meat to the grinder, and obviously shorter campaign for the allies. A nation like the soviet wasn't in a good place after Germany surrendered they had lost 27million to 40million people of a population of 170 or so, and of that only 110million were ethnic Russians, they only had some 20,000 tank's left when the Japanese surrender and 30,000 aircraft, that was after a few months of no losses. The soviets joining the war was a factor but it was in no way shape or from the causes of the Japanese surrender, the allies or America said it would be unconditional surrender yet they didn't keep that, they made concessions that's why the Japanese surrendered and face a completely different approach then the German's did, look at the war crimes in comparison to Germany The Japanese got of with a fraction of what Germany did and most importantly to the Japanese they keeped there emperor.

@@brianlong2334 what?

@@idontknowwhatmypfpis1918 Just pointing out the problem with this assumption that the Japanese would have surrendered without the bombs getting dropped, and it was more about the soviet entry into the war which makes no sense as an argument. No nation today or before was like the Japanese in ww2, about 2 to 3million Japanese military personnel died in ww2 and only some 20,000 to 50,000 were taken as POWs befor the war ended. A nation like America lost some 400,000 men in ww2 and over 120,000 were taken as POWs. The Japanese fought for a peace deal they got one so they made peace, the soviet entry into the war was a consideration but it was in no way shape or form the reason they did, even if the Russians invaded one of the Japanese home islands like they planed with American lend-lease ships it only had a population of 3million, it was the lest important home island, not to mention the lend-lease ship's hadn't been delivered only about half were available.

nah I woulda stopped it

Bingo! All this talk about how the U.S. “had no choice” is merely a post facto justification for the demonstration of a weapon - one intended to intimidate the Soviets. With the Japanese largely cut off from industrial resources and their war machine was running on fumes: a simple blockade would have been sufficient to counter the Japanese fleet (what’s left of it, anyway…) and deprive them of the means to launch any new offensives - no invasions or atom bombs required.

So you really weight lives of a "couple" soliders over the lives of 100.000 Civilians? That's messed up my guy

@@apax2901 torturing US troops is a war crime. winning the war is not a crime and they saved 100,000s more lives in doing so. the end absolutely justified the means, my guy.

@@daveythekid Just because it is a war crime does not mean it is better.

Duh. Thing is, there's this thing called weapons of mass destruction that literally could end our world civilization. The option of "all in gamble" is forbidden. Unless you want mankind to extinct.

Exactly!

what about if its a tie? no land exchange, no war reparations, just a simple white peace, like the war of 1812

Wars end all the time, educate yourself.

@@MetaKnight964 Indeed. In fact, some of them end more than once.

Japan would have been so devastated repopulation would have been nearly impossible without American colonization. Probably between 10-20 million dead in combat, another 20-30 million starve to death.

I was about to say the same thing. I didn't watch the video yet, but I immediately thought yeah if we didn't nuke them the death toll on both sides would be devastating trying to invade Japan.

@@scarekrxw129 I doubt it Large death toll for japanese couple hundreds death for Americans

I read this stat somewhere, but one must consider that it was an American stat that quite possibly could be that it was just justification for dropping the Atomic Bombs

@@HikrisDopl in a arms race, First to Use is the Last to Lose. At that time, EVERYONE was fighting for the chance to be the first to develop such a weapon as the atomic bomb. The only way to prove its developmental capabilities as well as secure the respect and position of a countries willingness to use such devastating weapons , especially in the Nuclear Race we were in at the time could be seen as the justification needed to end all Major World Conflicts. We were first, Russia was second, those two positions are the only two that matter in such definitive warfare. Though the U.K. was third with France and China rounding out the only 5 Legitimate Nuclear Powers of this world. As in, these five countries were the only five to have developed and acquired their own Nuclear Programs with the intentions and successful completion of nuclear weapons. That not to say that we didn’t share or spy on each other’s developmental stages to get there, but these five countries are the only known countries to have successfully created and proven their attainment of such weapons. India, Pakistan and the other few countries to claim to have such weapons have never acknowledged their Nuclear Programs to be anything more than for Nuclear Power, though it’s assumed that quite a few other countries have a nuclear bomb let alone the capabilities that The US and Russia have developed them at such amounts in such a relatively short amount of time that they have achieved true Mutually Assured Destruction statuses with each other in the fastest way possible in the most dangerous forum for a country to prove superiority in, Warfare.

you're correct that the Japanese surrendered to the soviets and that's when the war fully ended but that's not the full story after the first bomb was dropped on Nagasaki a few of the officers we're already thinking about surrendering and when the 2nd one dropped is when the emperor announced its defeat saying that the war hasn't necessarily shifted to Japan's favor but some of the officers still wanted to keep fighting saying that they already had more destruction thrown at them by air raids and fire bombings and that the nukes were just the same as those and then after the first bomb took place Russia declared war on Japan and invaded Japanese held manchuria in an effort to convince the officers who were still fighting the emperor said instead that they are no surrendering due to soviet involvement in the war in an effort to convince those officers to stop fighting and it worked.

@@pspsppsps8660 I don't understand what you mean. What I'm saying is that there is no causal link between the atomic bomb and Japan's surrender to the Allies.

@@nitro2525k The bombs sure helped. Would you want to continue fighting a force with that capability?

@@maximaldinotrap t was after the end of the war that Japan understood the cruelty of the atomic bomb. It took time to understand the tragedy after the A-bomb survivors and the aftereffects of the A-bomb survivors, and Japan surrendered before understanding the demonic nature of the bomb.

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Not to mention that the Soviets had declared war on Japan and had completely overrun Manchuria. The Japanese feared one thing the most above all else; the Communists. They knew that should the Communist land on the Japanese mainland, they would inflect a terrible cost on the Japanese and would have certainly destroyed Japanese society. The Soviets would have killed the Emperor, would have destroyed the old societal systems and the Japanese also knew that the Soviets would not be deterred by the losses they would suffer.

@@panzerkiller4847 the that no naval power to cross the sea, only usa could land in the mainland and would still suffer million loses

@@stefchris859 *laughs in Korea hopping*

That’s so vague though. They couldn’t at least clarify where the total destruction will happen??? The US warning was garbage and it’s not surprising that not that many people left causing a massive loss of life.

@@digimonlover1632 did you watch the video? there was no other choice...

@@digimonlover1632 What kind of warning would you have suggested? Should he have said “We have a single bomb that can wipe out an entire city!” Most of the U.S. commanders didn’t even believe it, so it’s likely the Japanese would have scoffed at the idea.

They didnt surrender becuase of the bombs though

Russia attacking Japan would have wiped them out and led to surrender. The bombs did not lead to surrender. It was the threat of Stalin annihilating their homeland.

Half a million Americans doubt it under 100

Nah Japan was defeating Americans and British with far inferior numbers while being on the offensive. Even when the Americans invaded Iwo Jima with 120,000 Marines, hundreds of ships and planes just to displace an Island of 20,000 Japanese troops - Americans lost more personnel: 24,000. Thats with zero support from air and sea for Japan by the way. Mainland Japan had heavy tanks and plenty aircraft. Estimates of casualties are clearly bias and in favor of allies, from Allied historians. It would more than likely be a war of attrition and guerilla, which the Japanese were experts at, and none of the allies were. It'd be a 10x more deadly Vietnam. Allied casualties would for sure exceed those of the entrenched Japanese.

@@user-pn3im5sm7k that’s because defending a position is going to be easier than attacking and in open naval warfare even outnumbered the United States crippled the Japanese ability to carry out offensive operations in the pacific so no it’s not Japanese superiority it’s purely just fanaticism and defending till your last breath instead of being rational

@@user-pn3im5sm7k also mainland japan couldn’t fuel their tanks and didn’t have enough fuel for their planes which is how the US had total air superiority over the Japanese homeland

@@donavanrupard6219 If I'm not mistaken, they had reserves in place for the jets, planes, and tanks on the mainland for the impending invasion. Keep in mind they didn't need much of it, as many would serve as artillery or kamikaze units.

Which is the important thing.

@@spiritmatter1553 Yea

@@spiritmatter1553 anime suc

Russia offered to join the axis a few days before barbarossa so no

There were still men, women, and children but I see your point. The US was trying to hit Japan where it would hurt them the most. Unfortunately, innocent bystanders were just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Not enough reason even to drop those bomb, people are not idiot and know what exactly in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Killing civilians still a crime.

That was WWII from start to finish... On ALL sides. Japan also had a habit of putting their military and industrial targets in the middle of population centers, even in the middle of neighborhoods in an attempt to use the civilians as human shields.@@MoS910

America has more blood on their hands than any other nation. Blood of innocent Japanese, Arabs, Vietnamese, Afghans

They were civilian targets...coward targets. Unlike the military target japan hit.

I would argue that Russians would have collapsed from a two front war. The Japanese planed invasion of Siberia and part's of Mongolia was cancelled on the 9th of August 1941, the usa oil embargo was on the 1st of August, the Japanese had been building up its forces in Manchuria for quite some time the Russians had actually seen the Japanese build up and responded with there own. The problem is the reality was the Japanese were extremely exposed if they when to war with Russia they didn't have the oil to fight alone, hence the Japanese whent to the Dutch East Indies, the attack on pearl harbour was to keep America away for as long as possible, the Japanese thought worst cases the American would be back in 6 months after such an attack but more realistic was 1 year, this would give the Japanese time to prepare however this didn't happen. The reality was that the Japanese were in contact with the USA leading up to the war the USA threatening the Japanese, that If they whent after the British and or dutch then America would declare war, the Japanese took it seriously, there were multiple messages sent between the Japanese government and the Americans before the Japanese attack pearl harbour, the American last reply was basically that the Japanese would have to give up all of it's territories out side the 4 main islands, the Japanese, counter offer was to leave China however excluding Manchuria and Korea, even so far as to hand over the other parts to America in exchange basically for oil, they also ask for a non-aggression pack with the USA and basically to hlep them get one with the British and Dutch, yet the Americans reply with, they could not guarantee that the USA wouldn't be at war with that Japanese in the future so no non-aggression could be signed, the Japanese navy left for pearl harbour the same day as this reply. There is also the discussion the American government had about cutting of Japanese oil in 1940 but it was voted against as they thought the Japanese would react in a declaration of war, this was why pearl harbour was such a big deal they believe that the Japanese would declare war not surprise attack, however it had a better effect this way as the American public went from overwhelming to keep out of the war to the opposite.

@@brianlong2334 Thank you for the well thought out analysis. So if the Axis Powers had defeated Russia then it would only have been a matter of time before they would have had control over the entire continent. One has to wonder if the United States would have been agreeable to some sort of treaty with them as they had a population who war was not a popular option for. Even if they still would not agree to any kind of treaties it's an interesting hypothetical thinking about how a war between the axis powers and an isolated USA would have been waged. Attacking the far away territories is logistically completely different than attacking the mainland US. I mean they could have attempted to launch an attack out of Alaska but they'd either need the cooperation of Canada or they'd end up fighting them first and the US population would probably not be as staunchly opposed to war once it began right next door instead of across the world from them.

The thing is. Logic plays in. Germany would have to divide up Russia rather quickly into their own soverign states at that point. Afterall, Germany wanted to control the entire contient of Europe but couldn't realize how horrible of an idea it was. You cannot control the Russian people with ease. There's also the fact that a mainland invasion of the North American continent is very impractical. German bombers couldn't reach there and the US Navy would've still been a powerhouse if Pearl Harbor didn't happen. Well, even then their Navy was a powerhouse.

Regardless the US will end up in war with Soviets The Capitalism vs Communism

beirut explosion was not an atomic bomb.

@@mirak3050 I know I’m saying I personally have seen the Beirut explosion and couldn’t imagine what an atomic bomb would do and the destruction we would see since we have Cameras everywhere now

Probably yeah

But they weren’t believed. Nobody thought a single bomb would destroy an entire city. It was unfathomable

Its like people saying aliens would come take their home,no one believes such bllsht

@@Iodotoluene true, but that doesn't negate the fact that America tried. Even though it was a terrible thing, people act like we were heartless.......its no less than other powers would have done to us, and by the sounds of it, Japan would not have blinked if they could have hit us with the same first.

@@ferbiously I just wish that more people would acknowledge that we tried and did not care about the collateral damage.

I agree with interesting. But not necessarily good. I have read a few of his books and I swear to god most of them are mind mumblingly boring outside of short sums up.

He shares the same birthday (June 14) as me, as well as a love of alternate history.

Considering the japanese military are super aggresive, they'll probably start a coup against the gov and not surrender

@@indokid2718 1) It's pretty unlikely, considering that the Emperor had a status similar to that of a god, and thus the military would have been isolated in their own home; 2) even if the military did a coup, the country was destroyed and did not have any military capacity left. The Allies could simply sit around the island and wait for it to starve. This was the original plan, but it was not carried out because the new President of the U.S. felt that he should not collaborate more than necessary with the U.S.S.R.

@@indokid2718 Besides, the nukes did nothing to "prevent a coup from the military", since it struck civilians, not military cibles.

Rather not exactly. The nukes were another nail in the Rising Sun's coffin, the war from the USSR was the final nail. Japan was already extremely demoralized and the nuclear bombs certainly helped bringing their morale down even more. The fact that the USSR declared was showing the fact that if they did not surrender, they'd be facing both the USSR and the USA.

I think the Chinese's witnesses of japan's atrocities with babies, kids, teens, adults, elder, has something to comment about that.