Lady Bird had big time stock in the company that built the Huey helicopter. We lost 10,000 of those in Viet Nam. Guess who made money off of rebuilding all those helicopters. Also, the CIA was going to be tamed and not become what it is today.
Phillip F. Nelson, "LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination" (2nd ed., 2013). Gives much documentation, and his personality traits, in showing LBJ's corrupt, mental illness (bi-polar), alcoholic, power-mad, money-hungry, glory-seeking, his cruelty in delight in hurting small animals, (and as an adult, ordering 7 men killed prior by a paid hitman), with his background starting from his boyhood days! His grandmother predicted he would become a criminal and wind up in jail when she noticed his warped personality!
The proof exists that he was. LBJ's own mistress has stated on numerous occasions that on the night before the assassination, Lyndon Johnson appeared at the home of Clint Murchison and went behind closed doors with Murchison, J Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, John Connally, Sheriff Bill Decker, and none other than Carlos Marcello. He emerged from that meeting angry and red faced, and told his mistress, Madeline Duncan Brown who was at the party that "After tomorrow those goddamned Kennedys will never embarrass me again". Firstly, Ms Brown had no reason to fabricate such a story, and, secondly, LBJ had pending legal problems that were all made bye bye the next day.
Yes of course, Lee Harvey Oswald would have broken out of jail and gone right through JFK's Secret Service to try to kill him again and this time succeed, because nothing could stop Lee Harvey Oswald!
The Civil War would have still been won by the North if Lincoln survived. You see the surrender of Robert E. Lee's army wasn't the actual end of the Civil War, it continued on for a few months later after that and was ended under President Andrew Johnson. A more interesting question if what if you substituted Abraham Lincoln for JFK and LBJ, would he have won Vietnam? Lincoln understood eventually that one had to destroy the enemy's ability to fight in order to win a total war.
@@otisdylan9532 Would he have? Would he have sent the freed black slaves to Africa? I believe he did mention something like that, he felt that after the Civil War, the animosity between the races was too great for them to live together, so maybe he would have shipped them all to Africa, and there would have been no 150 years of racial tensions in the United States afterwards. You see Andrew Johnson let the former slaves stay in the United States and continue to pick cotton and tobacco for their former masters, and that was followed by Jim Crow laws and separate but equal facilities and so forth. With discriminatory laws racism got perpetuated down through the later generations, but if blacks were absent, then it would not have continued.
@@cynic2allLBJ was responsible for the first actual combat troops: Mar. 8, 1965, landing ashore near Da Nang, were Army and Marines combat units. There were none before; only non-combat advisors that numbered 16,000 at the time of the coup on Nov. 22. Kennedy was in the process by then of removing the first 1,000 of them, with the bulk out by 1965. Source: NSAM #263 on Oct. 11, 1963. Reversed by LBJ on Tue. Nov. 26, 1963, the day after Kennedy's funeral.
I agree that war was about MONEY and the Military Industrial Complex. So criminal to fight a war with one hand tied behind our back take a hill and relinquish it the next day????? The US never lost one major battle even the TET offensive in 1968. Saying a prayer for all who perished in that damn war and all War's.
@@cynic2all Advisors for military operations are military, but not necessarily doing actual combat in an offensive manner searching for them, except to shoot when shot at first, which is why there were very few military deaths from either Ike's time, or Kennedy's time in office, with the 16,000 advisors to the corrupt and inept Diem government, until the brothers were murdered (against what Kennedy desired---to only depose them, but not killed) by the CIA--on Nov. 1, 1963, The real offensive combat troops to "search and destroy" were ordered there on Mar. 8, 1965, when the Army and Marines landed near Da Nang, when the massive deaths by mid-1966 started the large Republican gains in Nov. ('66) and then the strong opposition on college campuses and mass street demonstrations and marches on DC until the end of that illegal [no Congress vote in both House/Senate Declaring War on N. Vietnam) and wasteful war that murdered 58,298 young men (and some women nurses!), with at least 1.5 million S. Vietnamese old men, women, and little children; which was should have been Id'ed as a war crime and LBJ a war criminal. Kennedy wanted nothing to do with continuing any U.S. presence there with his NSAM #263 (Oct. 11, 1963) to remove the first 1,000 advisors of the 16,000 by Dec. 31, 1963, and the bulk out by 1965. LBJ reversed that sensible plan with his NSAM #273 (Tue. Nov. 26), the day after Kennedy's funeral, when nobody was paying any attention to the scheming, lying ("I will continue Kennedy's policies") LBJ and his failed, extremely expensive "Great Society" policies on top of the extreme military adventure there, that was never fought to stop "communism" only to make gobs of money from the insiders (including LBJ) from prior buying of war armament stocks! That is what war usually is, starting from WW1: insiders getting rich from their stock investing as war profiteers. "War is a Racket" (1935) book by USMC Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler.
I personally know JFK was pulling out of Vietnam because I was preselected to go to Saigon in Oct 1963 and then had my orders cancelled about the time of his assassination, then reinstated under Johnson in late Dec 1963.
MAYBE yes, MAYBE no. I spent 29 years active duty in the military, and people's orders get cancelled and later reinstated OFTEN. It's quite possible that the military planners simply changed their minds about the timing of a deployment "surge" (including one that might affect the entire unit to which you were assigned) -- ESPECIALLY given the domestic and global cataclysm of JFK's assassination -- and then resumed previously scheduled operations after several months when things "settled down." NOT to trivialize your observation and belief (because history has shown that LBJ was indeed a war hawk who drastically ramped up U.S. involvement in Viet Nam and one must concede that it's at least "possible" JFK was re-evaluating and changing his mind about U.S. involvement in Viet Nam) ... BUT his very own brother and close confidant Bobby/RFK (who was also his Attorney General) was ADAMENT that JFK had no such designs to withdraw from Viet Nam because he was a staunch anti-Communist. Also -- again NOT to trivialize things or your personal beliefs -- but the AFL CANCELLED all its football games the weekend of JFK's assassination (and later made up those games) whereas the NFL played their scheduled games on Sunday 24 November 1963 per usual) ... Clearly, by cancelling its games on 24 November 1963, the AFL was not signaling any intent to cancel the season at that point or NOT "make up" the games later (because the games WERE played later at the end of the season). So your "cancelled orders" may very well have been merely a TEMPORARY response to be reinstated later. Just sayin' ...
If he had lived the debacle of Vietnam would not have happened. Kennedy turned to advice to MacArthur. MacArthur advised him not to go to Vietnam and he heeded it. MacArthur on his deathbed asked to see Johnson. Johnson came and he begged him not to go Vietnam.
@@mulehead126 I was in the Army but never went to Vietnam, but I talked to soldiers who went there. They told me that the war was just based on containment and not trying to win it. There were never any plans to win it. There were no fronts in Vietnam. What was very common for soldiers to say who had been on the front, "I just wanted to do my front and get the XXXX out of there." One had be a complete fool to volunteer for a mission there. It was totally pointless.
Yes, MacArthur would advise JFK to surrender to North Vietnamese troops because they were invincible and the United States could not have defeated them, so therefore the United States would end up occupied by the North Vietnamese with a puppet government controlled by them just like Eastern Europe as those North Vietnamese were invincible! Communism makes people bulletproof!
I think likely no, because I have listened to many of his speeches and press conferences. He constantly put the responsibility on countries to sort out "their own" governments.
Not only would Lyndon Johnson not have become President, the Kennedy team were planning to replace him as the Vice Presidential candidate in 1964. Nixon was later quoted as saying, “Lyndon and I both wanted to be Present. The difference was I wasn’t willing to kill to do it”.
I have to disagree with the author's evaluation of LBJ's chances in getting elected on his own. On November 8, 1963 the Bobby Baker scandal broke and Life planned a follow up on it in the next issue. Johnson was about to face the worst coverage of his career and a possible indictment for his associations with Bill Sol Estes and Mac Wallace. The assassination stopped that investigation. But, had he lived, JFK would have had an easy reason to dump LBJ as his running mate and still could have won. Most sources indicate that JFK was trying to draw down Viet Nam, but LBJ, upon assuming the presidency kept it going because he was getting hefty "campaign donations" from military contractors...
If it were just Military Contractors giving campaign donations, LBJ could have just expanded the Apollo Program, and ordered even bigger rockets than the Saturn V for those Military contractors to build. the Space Program was expensive, so making it more expensive would have increased profits for the Military contractors.
? REALLY ?--- OH ****** REALLY,........appproximately a 1/3 (maybe more) of >HIS< BRAIN GONE?? He wooda a been living ZOMBIE,.....& LBJ in the DRIVER SEAT! HOW are things in >YOUR< neighborhood on FLAT EARTH!
J. Edger Hoover was the mastermind behind John . Kennedy’s assassination. J.Edger Hoover had the most to gain from the Kennedy assassination. John F.Kennedy was going to fire J.Edger Hoover when he got back to Washington after the Texas trip.
Really? Literally ALL proof shows that Oswald did it alone. Not one shred of evidence to the contrary. It was a murder of opportunity by a very small man trying to make a big impact on history. I don’t doubt that a LOT of people hated JFK and wanted him dead. He was a $hitty president who pi$$ed a lot of his benefactors off and only became “great” because he was killed. These men included the CIA, J Edgar Hoover, LBJ, the Mob, the Russians, the Castros, and George Bush 41, but they were not successful. In fact, if their shooters were in Dallas that day, they would have been the most surprised people in Dealey Plaza (and other places.) The only shots fired in Dealey Plaza were from Lee Harvey Oswald’s rifle from the 6th Floor of the Dallas Schoolbook Depository - two of those shots killed JFK and wounded Gov. Connolly. There is not one shred of credible evidence to refute that. The rest have been shameless opportunists trying to make money off of the tin foil hat brigade (most of you.) Oh yeah: all of the “back and to the left” nonsense never takes into account that Kennedy was wearing an almost medieval leather and spring steel back brace that literally made falling forward impossible. It made him “spring” backwards like a Jack in a box (
Yup, right down to the motorcade route, the lack of a bubble top car roof, and about a thousand other details. JFK was never leaving Texas alive. Period. Fullstop. How could anyone think LBJ wasn't in on it.
Which Oswald, there were at least two. Aside from Harvey Lee Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald, there were any number of impersonators test driving cars, showing up on shooting ranges, and going to the soviet embassy in Mexico. See, HARVEY AND LEE, HOW THE CIA FRAMED OSWALD by John Armstrong. The case against "Oswald" would never have stood up in court. That's why that Oswald was eliminated.
Is that your only goal? How about we get out of World War II sooner? We could have just concluded that the Nazis could not have been defeated and negotiated an armistice by letting him keep all the parts of Europe he conquered, that way we could have gotten out of World War II sooner. If you take victory off the table and concern yourself only with ending the war, that is what happens!
@@denniss1044 You got it on the nose! NSAM #263 on Oc.t 11. Superceded by the NSAM #273 on Tue. Nov. 26, the day after Kennedy's funeral reversed Kennedy's desire to start removing advisors!
@@otisdylan9532 Removing the first 1,000 Army ADVISORS from his NSAM #263 (Oct. 11) policy, but reversed by NSAM #263 (Tue. Nov. 26, day after Kennedy's funeral).
They were discussing his removal months in advance before the coup on November 1, 1963. I think that's what the narrator meant. JFK did in fact approve the coup, but not the killing of Diem brothers. He just wanted them out of the way because they were an interference.
Kennedy would have never gotten us involved in Vietnam to the extent that Johnson and Nixon did. Not only did John F Kennedy die in Dallas on November 22, 1963, but also 50,000 young American men and women died that day too.
It was merciful that JFK did not somehow survive his wounds . He had a large part of his brain shot out of his head and it would have been very cruel to all involved to witness the damage done
One important subject that wasn't touched upon was Kennedy's uneasy relationship with longtime FBI director J. Edgar Hoover. Hoover, as many people today know, was, among other things, staunchly anti-civil rights and only reluctantly worked to put an end to organized crime in the United States. However, Hoover (who was born on New Year's Day, 1895) was facing the then-mandatory retirement age of 70, which he would have reached on January 1, 1965. Kennedy, who despised Hoover, had planned to simply let the clock run out on the aging FBI chief. Even if Kennedy had lost the '64 election, he would have had the satisfaction of seeing Hoover leave before he himself was replaced. Unfortunately, Johnson, who was personally afraid of Hoover, gave the FBI chief an exemption from mandatory retirement (which would be continued well into the Nixon administration). This, as we know now, led to another 7+ years of Hoover weaponizing the FBI against public officials, celebrities, and private individuals in his relentless war against 'subversion'.
What if that wasn't President Kennedy but an actor double. President Kenndy had a meeting in the Iron Mountain to see how peace would change and affect our economy would have to be made .
The 60s would have still seen significant change had JFK survived, but it likely wouldn't have been as tumultuous. JFK was Camelot, if he lived, it wouldn't have died.
Yes, of course, he would have been crowned "King Kennedy", and his eldest firstborn son would have inherited the throne after he died! You know Camelot was a fairy tale don't you?
JFK was in a army Crossfire the sign of those who organized it said a chicken could not have survived that trap they laid for him. Speculation is they might have had 8 gunmen in Dealey Plaza that day.(Surely at least 4) with 4 others as radio men. Using Radio's coordinating the gun fire. Just look whats been discovered since, bullet in the grass at least 3 shots to JFK the throat the head and the back. One hit concrete and injured Teaque,shots from the over pass directly in front of the limousine hitting the window and the window frame identified coming from the front at the overpass to the right,2 more.Witnessed by 2 women who worked at Parkland Hospital. Suspected shots taken from the top of Jail, The day FREEDOM died in AMERICA!!!! LBJ was going to jail othewise for accepting bribes. NO body seems to care today a DAMN shame JFK was far from perfect but he never deserved that!!
@@baxterscruggs8225 I'm sorry you feel that way. Folks like you refuse to believe the truth. Total conspiracy. If you don't believe he was murdered look what has happened to your country since? THINK Please!
The one question that everyone seems to overlook is that of JFK's Addison's Disease! Having first been diagnosed in the 1940s, he had already survived the adrenal gland wasting disease by almost twenty years. He was kept alive by corticosteroid therapy. I think that even if he had survived the assassination attempt, he would not have lived long due to his myriad health issues.
it p^sses me off that I get disjointed images (arm attached to a butt, weird-looking faces that look nothing like the real people, etc.) when I create a.i. images too. They need to fix that glitch.
There's no reason to believe that if JFK had survived and been reelected that his policy towards Vietnam in his second term would be any different from his policy towards Vietnam in his first term. He abstained from invading Cuba when nobody would have faulted him for it, so there's no way he would have sent a massive number of troops all the way to Vietnam with dubious justification. If he'd stayed in office till 1969, US involvement in the Vietnam War would have remained very limited, but the civil rights movement also would have stalled, because, like you said, JFK just didn't have the clout with congress that LBJ had. It probably would have been the Carter administration before the Civil Rights Act, Fair Housing Act, etc. were passed. The Cold War wouldn't have ended one minute earlier or later had Kennedy survived.
His corrupt and evil viper in his bosom (literary speaking) was his VP, who wanted the glory from passing any Civil Rights bill, so with the VPs immense clout as President of the Senate (as the VP is) and as their former Majority Leader before elected as VP, he blocked the bill with help from his other Southern leadership members, but LBJ made it that much harder to get it through, as LBJ planned his takeover of the government after blackmailing Kennedy at the 1960 Dem Convention to be his VP. Along with FBI Director Hoover, LBJ showed Kennedy the file of his womanizing and drug usage, threatening to show it to Nixon to gleefully release it to the public, destroying Kennedy's chances to win in November. Kennedy had already given the VP nod to Sen. Stuart Symington (MO), so LBJ was not the first pick to be VP! LBJ was the mastermind of the coup, as author Phillip F. Nelson showed in his massive biography of the corrupt Rep.-Senator-VP-President's long history in his book, "LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination" (2nd ed., 2013). You are also wrong on ending the Cold War if he had lived! Kennedy had already signaled the end of the Cold War, with his magnificent Peace Speech on June 10, 1963, at American University. He said among other things in praising the Russian people who had the most killed in WW2, and had positive human accomplishments, while also denigrating their Communist leadership, "Americans have had enough of war..." His new policy, announced in his June 10th speech, ignored the military and intel agencies as was the usual custom for a president to show it to them before giving a foreign policy speech for fear of them denigrating it in public before he gave it, proved how much he was at war with them for the past 2+ years since they double-crossed him at the Bay of Pigs Cuba military failure in April 1961. He promised to never trust them again (and he didn't), and wanted to "splinter the intel agency into a thousand pieces, and scatter it to the winds."
If JFK had not been assassinated, we WOULD NOT have pulled out from Vietnam. Why? Because Cuba was a disaster for the U.S. and JFK would not let Vietnam be another disaster! Vietnam would have been a headache for JFK like it was for LBJ.
No matter what Oliver Stone believes, Kennedy had the same advisors as LBJ, especially McNamara. The Vietnam war would have probably played out the same way, at least until January of 69. As for Civil Rights, this is spot on, if Kennedy is not assassinated, the Civil Rights bill, the Voting rights act (which the Supreme Court is gutting all the time) would not have been passed. Only LBJ could have made that happen. As for the Cold War, I kind of doubt we would have seen a cooperative effort in the Moon landings. The better questions are, would Bobby have stayed as Attorney General or run for Senate from NY? Would he have broken with his brother over Vietnam? Would the sixties and the counter culture have risen up against Kennedy? Would LBJ have run for President in 68? If he beats Nixon in 68, then Nixon never becomes President, you never get Watergate, Woodward and Bernstein are never as well known and if Johnson still dies on 1/22/73 after just winning reelection, again speculation, then his Vice-President becomes President. Would that have still been Hubert Humphrey? No matter who it was would have had a chance to essentially be President for 3 terms as the inauguration would have only happen 2 days earlier! If so, then no Ronald Reagan, No Jimmy Carter, a different economic landscape as you never got "Trickle- Down", China is never opened, Maybe the Iran Crisis plays out differently, remember the hostages were only taken after Carter allowed the Shah into the U.S. For cancer treatment. It is all fun to speculate, but of course you could have also had some misunderstanding and someone pushing a button.
@@770WT Yes, JFK was such an excellent leader he would not have won the Vietnam War! They would have built a memorial to him for not winning the Vietnam War!
The thing that shapes counterfactual arguments most is the creativity of the writers weaving the tale. I recall a quote from Nixon where he was asked what the biggest difference between him and Kennedy was. Nixon said Kennedy had better screenwriters or something along those lines (my memory fails as to the exact words but that was the basic gist of it). The Camelot mythmakers played the counterfactual game well but they had a very sympathetic national press working with them. The idea that Kennedy would have pulled out of Vietnam after his reelection was popular for a time, but there is no way he would have done that. He was the one who ramped things up there and after he green-lit Diem's murder he felt personally responsible for setting that country on a stronger footing. As for Cuba, there is a better than even chance another missile crisis or worse could have resulted over that island if Kennedy had lived. It was personal with him and Bobby. They wanted Castro gone and were working with Cuban exiles and members of the Cuban military directly to make that happen. It drove the CIA case officers crazy. They said it was risky as hell but the Kennedy's didn't give a sh*t. Bobby himself said they paid a great price for being more energetic than wise about a lot of things, especially Cuba. LBJ was the one who got that civil rights bill through, though he used Kennedy's assassination to do it, but he also believed more in it than JFK. He was also a bigger supporter of the space program, going back to his days as senate majority leader and he kept Apollo alive. JFK was starting to grow indifferent to the program and there is a chance that if Khrushchev had turned down an offer for a joint Moon mission Kennedy may have at least scaled the program back if not cancelled it all together. I'll give this channel credit for staying more balanced than most when it comes to the what if JFK had lived question. Outside of your take on Kennedy, Cuba, and the Cold War you did okay. Kennedy was reckless as hell when it came to Castro. As LBJ put it: "The Kennedy's are running a damn murder incorporated in the Caribbean" and "Bobby wants to murder the whole f*cking world." LBJ had a way of exaggerating, especially where Bobby was concerned, but the paper trail and testimony of CIA officials back him up there. We may have dodged a bullet because if Kennedy had tried to rerun the Bay of Pigs there's no telling how the Soviets might have reacted. LBJ cut out all the nonsense in Cuba after November 22nd. He felt it got his predecessor killed and he had a point there. At the very least, it inspired a book stacker with a $19 mail-order rifle and a track record of being a three-time loser with a capital T.
> Yes, Bill Safire (one of RN's speechwriters) in his memoir _Before The Fall_ recalled Nixon's observation that "His [JFK's] writers have him great word pictures.". But even so, it still took JFK's oratorical verve for them to captivate the mass imagination ... As is fairly well known by now, JFK had his problems with Addison's Disease and chronic back pain. In the latter case, sufferers will just about do anything and take anything - no matter how dubious - if they believe it helps. Enter Max Jacobson, essentially a quack doctor with all sort of goodies whose side effects included hyperactivity, impaired judgement, reckless behaviour, mood swings and enhanced libido. And that segues into that other now well-known aspect of his life, the many and varied sexual affairs with All Those Ladies: in the case of Judy Exner - an ex-Mafia moll - she must have presented a blackmail risk; there was also the case of Ellen Rometsch, an _alleged_ E. German spy [never confirmed by the FBI], which would certainly have had national security implications if true. And those are two that are relatively well-known, who knows if there were others ... In the end, with a President who was basically hooked on amphetamines, who lacked sexual self-control and seems to have thought he could do anything he liked, my guess is that while the Administration would likely have won re-election, a second term would have blown up in scandals worse than Watergate and all the sympathetic coverage (and "non-coverage") of the East Coast media would not have been able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
Very simply the Soviets would have let the United States have Cuba, it was not worth a nuclear war for them as the Soviet Union would not have survived a nuclear war if they launched one to stop a US invasion of Cuba! Look at it this way, the Ukrainians are launching attacks onto the territory of Russia and Russia has not responded with nuclear weapons, so what are the chances they would do so if the US invaded Cuba?
If JFK would have lived and had another term, us disabled people would have had the Americans With Disabilities Law a whole lot sooner than we did and he would have dedicated it to his sister, Rosemary. Hopefully, JFK would have not taken LBJ as his Vice President in his second term. And also, then RFK would been alive in 1968 and the U.S would have gotten out of Viet Nam sooner like I read that Kennedy was getting ready to end that war and bring our troops home.
There most likely was a backup plan in case the shooting was not fatal. Kennedy was going to give a speech at the Trade Mart. A dispute on changing the original venue from another place to the Trade Mart is suspicious because that route would not have taken the limo to go in that crazy zig-zag turns off Main St. They would have stayed on Main St avoiding the crossfire setup plan to kill him there, one easily hidden behind the fence and vegetation where smoke was seen rising after the shots, and people in a video seen running to that location..
JFK's hard commitment to get out of Vietnam is demonstrated in considerable detail in Dr John M Newman's books, including "JFK and Vietnam (Revised)", "Countdown to Darkness", "Uncovering Popov's Mole", "Where Angels Tread Lightly", and "Into the Storm"., in which Newman quotes numerous declassified documents and many interviews with major players of the era. JFK was hampered, and secretly opposed, by various military and political figures at every turn, including Maxwell Taylor, who insinuated his way into RFK's family circle, and Lemnitzer. If he had survived, some of these people would have been indicted for premeditated attempted murder and treason, and JFK's more rational military policy and detente would have continued until 1968.
@@thomaskalbfus2005 No. The real enemies were the Little Princes of West Point, whom he resolutely opposed, fearing that some of them were mentally unstable.
Let’s be real and as much as I admired John Kennedy I know that he was a part of the establishment just look up united fruit and his environment in Brazil and as much as I grew up loving JOHN F Kennedy I admire he figured it out with the treasure
Well, sir, there’s a football player in Brazil whose name is the same as President John F Kennedy! The football player’s name is John Kennedy, just like the president.
Weird-looking graphics deterred me from pursuing. Rather robotic narrator's voice, also. Maybe this is a useful historical exercise, always fun to speculate but I found the visuals too offbeat to watch. Sorry!
Yes the Soviets were very clever, which makes me wonder, why didn't they go after LBJ if they were so clever? they could have assassinated both the President and vice president, then killed the speaker of the House and the Secretary of State, because they had assassination teams all over the place, then they could have sent the Red Army in and taken over the United States, they were that good after all, cause communists are invincible!
Why does the Cold War depend on what the United States does and not what the Soviet Union does? I think the Soviet Union could have been less hostile, less confrontational and less warlike. Had the Soviet Union simply withdrawn its forces from Eastern Europe like the Czar did after the Napoleonic Wars, then there would have been no Cold War at all. Alternatively what if Khrushchev had been more like Gorbachev?
@@otisdylan9532 The Soviet Union would have done what they would have done regardless, they had an agenda to expand their empire because they wanted power, put anyone in the White House and they would have done the same thing.
In 1990 the Red Army left Eastern Europe but the US/NATO stayed and expanded NATO up to Russias borders which is why we now have the war between Ukraine and Russia.
@@kiwitrainguy There was not reason for US/NATO to go or disband, you see unlike the Warsaw Pact, membership in NATO is voluntary, also for most of this time, the United States was footing the bill, it was a great deal for European countries, they could spend more on social programs while the United States took care of defense of the continent. What Putin did in Ukraine shows why NATO is needed, Putin didn't do it because of NATO, he would have done it had there been no NATO, as his motivation is to rebuild the Russian Empire/Soviet Union, call it whatever you like. NATO gets in the way of this objective which is why Putin doesn't like it.
Are we talking about if the assassination never occurred or if the President survived his wounds? Nobody could have had a 100% recovery from that assassination.
This must of been hidden away for awhile. If J Kennedy would of not been executed, then my postmaster would still have both feet. He would not have been sent to Vietnam, more than likely. And we probably wouldn't have so much of this huge federal government budget deficit!
Also Nixon would not have had to take the US dollar off the gold standard to pay for the Vietnam war. Unhooking from the gold standard allowed the US dollar and most other Western currencies to devalue causing inflation which lasted until the mid 80s.
Peace Speech on June 10, 1963. Sep. 2 CBS interview saying, "It's their war to win or lose." NSAM #263 (Oct. 11) to withdraw the first 1,000 military advisors (no combat troops there until Mar. 8, 1965), and the bulk out by 1965. I think we know from those three separate events or his speech what would have happened had he lived!
Had Kennedy not been killed we would have never had the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts passed by LBJ after his death. Kennedy advocated for both, but it was Johnson's skills as a political force in both Houses of Congress that got them passed. Some are going to claim the Viet Nam War would not have escalated the way it did under LBJ. But that war before 1966 was popular to most Americans older than 30. Kennedy was no pacifist. He more than likely would have continued our involvement.
I see all the conspiracy crazies are out in force. Also, the use of AI images (and presumably the narrator) ruins whatever point this channel was trying to make.
I read here a few still-ignorant, and stubborn "lone nut" believing people (less of them on this event as time goes by with revealing and catching, seeing OTHER government lies over the decades since) who have never read anything about this sad case, and only listened monotonously to the government-media axis of lies, propaganda, and indoctrination to believe ANYTHING and EVERYTHING it says, without ever once questioning what they say! If you can read, try reading Phillip F. Nelson, "LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination" (2nd ed., 2013). You just might have your eyes seriously opened more than anything you've ever heard or read on this key event in American history!
No, that was the condition for JFK to be immortalized as a perfect hero. In reality JFK was even more problematic than Obama would have : much discourse and very little substance to back it. JFK's health was not promising to say the least. LBJ was a very ambitious character and he had consented to be a colistier counting on JFK's most probable timely death he would accelerate if need be : many people and interest groups were disappointed by JFK and each one had reasons to take revenge but LBJ was the best placed to satisfy them. In reality, that is certain, like Obama, JFK, contrary to his discourse, was not a liberal at all by mentality : he wanted to do away with the New Deal which he judged to have passed its time of usefulness and not to accelerate desegregation too much until more a more multicultural social model had been applied and made the black and white American culture into obsolete concepts, until for instance it would be far more important to be Irish-American or Italian-American than White American, far more important to be Louisiana Black or Gullah Black than African American. He wanted to cure class-based divisions by insisting on culture-based divisions in order for conflicts never to be class conflicts but rather among the low themselves contending for the privileged positions.
In my opinion John F. Kennedy was a very good democratic president and there hasn't been one since, if it wasn't for him being in office, i would've doubt that i would have been born
Less people would of died in vietnam, that’s all, and some of the things in culture would of been prolonged , its too bad all he had too serve was 5 more years and it made no sense for his death. And I bet you if he would of lived ungrateful people would of said why don’t you send more troops to vietnam , see in politics ladies and gentleman your always going to get they opposite side with people, and that’s why democratics lashed out at Nixon who was a good president. Democrats should be lashing out at that evil Marxist oswald, instead of buying into conspiracy theories.
What would've happened??? For starters, RFK would've taken a blowtorch to the entire administration, from LBJ all the way down to the mail clerk at the embassy in Lesotho. You would've seen so many accidental deaths and suicides that it would've rivaled Jonestown.
If JFK had lived, it's possible he would not have committed the US full-stop into Vietnam as Lyndon Johnson did. However, it must be remembered that key advisors to LBJ who helped lead him to that decision to fully enter the Vietnam War were the same advisors JFK had -- Robert MacNamara, Dean Rusk, the US ambassador to South Vietnam Henry Cabot Lodge, the same Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Maxwell Taylor (of 101st Airborne fame in WWII) who at first was a military advisor to JFK, later to become the Joint Chief, and also did a stint as US ambassador to South Vietnam under LBJ, then replaced again by Henry Cabot Lodge, and so on. Instead of the legend JFK became after his life was dramatically cut short, had he not been killed and remained in office to finish his term(s), more likely he'd be viewed today by historians far removed from the emotions of the time as being an above average president who ushered in the space program, probably trying but failing to overcome the segregationist Dixiecrat wing of the Democratic Party who strongly resisted civil rights legislation that Lyndon Johnson, being the consummate arm-twisting get-down-and-dirty politician he was known to be that JFK wasn't who eventually was able to ram through Congress against their opposition after Kennedy's death the Civil Rights Act of 1964 with help from moderate Republicans, but not among the greats or near greats. Probably near or at the same level that historians will evaluate Barack Obama. Higher than maybe Millard Fillmore or James Garfield but lower than Woodrow Wilson or William McKinley.
I was alive in the Kennedy Johnson years. Our country was unanimous in its “anti communist” bias. I suspect that JFK would have received the same push back about the escalation in Vietnam Nam.
He would have been unbeatable standing for re,election in 1964,he would have been committed to big troop involvement in Vietnam and would have left office popular but not as in four years earlier afterCuba.
Never committed to any "big troop involvement in Vietnam" as he had NO combat troops there; only advisors who only shot back in defense if attacked first. No offensive "search and destroy" missions as happened only after the first combat troops (Armies and Marines) there when landed at Da Nang on Mar. 8, 1965. NSAM #263 (Oct. 11, 1963) proves his policy was withdrawing the first 1,000 of the 16,000 advisors there; with the bulk out by 1965. That and his Peace Speech (June 10), and Sep. 2 interview on CBS saying, "We can give them aid or equipment, but it is their war to win or lose." So, no big troops there, only getting out by 1965. No 58,200+ killed there, no riots or mass anti-war demonstrations. those only came from #36, the evil man who was the mastermind of the coup d'etat on Nov. 22, 1963.
Just stop gloating over a survival that didn't happen!! He's dead since 1963. November 22. Get over it! Pity won't bring him back. Even so, your guess is likely wrong.
In 1992, the autopsy prosecutors, namely J. T. Boswell and possibly J. J. Humes, confirmed in JAMA that he had adrenals that had deteriorated extensively. That would be due to Addison's. Yet, they failed to put that in the autopsy report. Odd, don't you think?
The artwork/photoshopping in this is bizarre. Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon look absolutely nothing like themselves. Kennedy's rendering is uneven. In some scenes he looks exactly like himself, others not at all. Where JFK and RFK are together, it looks like JFK and his twin, not Robert. Sometimes the narrative is so out of sync with the illustration, I wonder what you're talking about. Is that supposed to be JFK with Ronald Reagan? I lived through this era as a young teenager and "What if JFK had lived and served out a second term?" has been one of the most tantalizing questions without an answer in all of the years since 1963. I think JFK would've followed the path into the same Vietnam quagmire that Johnson fell into. I think the Counterculture and anti-war movements would've both happened. The Kennedy presidency would not have the same nostalgic glow for many people that it still has to this day.
There is no way he could have survived that triangulation and specialised ammo for short distance sniper head shots, he's lucky his head stayed on ,so the question is moot.
All bullets and fragments ever found were matched to Oswald's rifle. Victims' reactions in Zapruder's film clearly demonstrate they are hit by the same bullet, and ergo, from behind. Kennedy is seen to suffer a massive exit wound at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind. Connally's said the shots came from behind. Autopsy shows the shots came from behind. Parkland doctors said the shots came from behind. Witnesses directly under the sixth floor window firmly said the shots all came from directly overhead. Those witnesses had a clear view behind the knoll fence and would plainly have seen any gunman there. The idea anybody would ever assume they would frame this on a lone shooter while firing from multiple directions is idiotic.
@@c123bthunderpig In that case we all look forward to you now addressing every piece of evidence I listed and explaining to me how it's all wrong, yes?
It's interesting, I don't think a lot of the liberals who idolize him today wouldn't have voted for him back then. He was a total hawk on defense, and recklessly so, sending hapless Cuban Americans up against a well-prepared army in Cuba. Here in Washington we have a bunch of brand new nuclear reactors, ordered by Kennedy, who favored nuclear power, and then abandoned by Johnson who opposed it. He promised a group of Civil Rights demonstrators that the Greyhound stations, which were under Federal jurisdiction, would be secured by soldiers, and then just didn't do it. As the demonstrators' bus pulled into an unsecured station, they were met by murderous Klansmen who burned their bus killing many of them.
Executive Order #11110 would have accomplished its noble objective, the rats of the AZC would have been made to register as a foreign agent, and the 1948 state wouldn't have gotten the bomb.
He did not favor "universal" healthcare, only Medicare for the aged. He was not a centralizer, dictator-mentality as LBJ was in his misguided, and dictator-like "Great Society" plan for everything to be directed by the government.
