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What if Hearthstone's Mage Class Released Today? 

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Hey folks today were starting a new series in which I take one of the old classes in Hearthstone and provide a large custom system for that class. Sort of like how Death Knights have their Rune System. For this part I took a look at the mage class and gave it some fun new options.
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@Dizzyinc1
@Dizzyinc1 Год назад
You’ve nailed a cool niche. I hope you continue to make more of these, it was well presented and made sense. Based on this, I’d honestly love a total rework of the original 9 classes in game lol.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks! I’ve almost got the next class done and should have that one out very soon! I plan on eventually tackling all of the first 10 classes and I look forward to it! I love making these fun concepts and I’m glad others enjoy them too!
@mikoajnowak2742
@mikoajnowak2742 Год назад
Well, that's a series that Id love to follow. I like how u just didn't make already made division to like heropowermage, frost mage and secret mage, but also built around it
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks! And yah that was definitely one of my goals going into this. I wanted to make a more groundwork system that future deck arcetypes could be supported by.
@bugr0ck
@bugr0ck Год назад
I would love it if you tackled paladin, I find that while a solid and fun many of the core features of the class can feel stale or repetitive. Much of modern paladin decks end up being curvestone and the deck restriction of pure paladin - while flavorful is not very harsh when deck building. P.s. saw this from twitter! I love all of your custom content! Re-arranging old classes is such a fun idea!
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks for deciding to stop by! I completely agree with you on Paladin and I look forward to tackling it!
@stevengonzales3737
@stevengonzales3737 Год назад
fantastic ideas. i've been hoping they would revisit old classes and give them treatment similar to death knight. Though personally, I believe that the reward for the adept deck to discover from only that spell school would be too strong/annoying. If there are too few of one spell school then the discover pool could be unfairly small. In standard there are 12 fire spells, 12 frost spells, and 13 arcane spells. That pool is just too small. My suggestion is to just not have a beginner tier, but rather have the hero power and adept cards as part of the adept tier, and the master tier remains the same. The organic way your study is chosen based on the spells in your deck is flavorful and fantastic, and I don't think there's any need to clutter it up by forcing you to actually choose a specific study. Can't wait for future videos.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
This is actually almost exactly how I had the system work originally, but the problem I was having was what if a deck decided it didn’t want to run spells or wanted to run a deck with the same amount of spells from two of the spell schools. Say a deck wanted to run 4 fire and 4 frost spells. What Study would they get put into? So I opted for adding a beginners stage with no restriction to it so every deck had the opportunity to get the thematic hero power and choose a study without the need for the deck building restriction. As for the smaller Discover pool. You could very well be completely right there. It is honestly a smaller side mechanic that I added to ensure adept decks couldn’t discover adept spells from other spell schools, but it probably isn’t necessary.
@stevengonzales3737
@stevengonzales3737 Год назад
@@bionicdoor I mean death knight already abuses discover to get high tier rune cards so ~ and also i think its fine to leave just basic mage archetype (though the default fireblast heropower would have to be changed) and then you wouldn't have to retrofit old cards as much but rather incorporate new mechanics into new cards
@Theseasonscome
@Theseasonscome Год назад
This is very neat. I enjoy the Midtier deck building (Adept) idea. Fire could probably be more like all fire spells deal +1 damage. Arcane spells costing 1 less is cool and maybe like frost can be either gain 3 armor or your frost spells affect one additional adjacent minion. Can't wait to see what you'll do for the other classes. Great idea.
@Khazmoodan
@Khazmoodan Год назад
Very sweet idea you've got there! Would love to see some more content like this As a warlock main in wow it got me really thinking about how these specs would translate. Making implock attached to the demonology spec and having unique demons tied to each spec... Very interesting concept you've got there haha, good luck
@uselesst3xt359
@uselesst3xt359 Год назад
This was really well done. I look forward to seeing what more ideas you have for both the remainder of mage and the other classes as well.
@bradyrewell6130
@bradyrewell6130 Год назад
absolutely amazing. i saw your expansion video recently and then I watched this and your warlock video and only afterwards did I realise they were all by you. I just thought I found two incredibly unique and well made videos ideas, but nope. instead, I found a whole channel of amazing videos. I subbed instantly after this one. please keep making these. i want more!! 😁
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thank you so much for such incredibly kind words! I’ve got plenty more videos in the works and can’t wait to get them out there!
@Kamavati
@Kamavati Год назад
Cool idea and interesting realisation, waiting for the Warlock one most!
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Well, you won’t have to wait much longer…
@neondead2.0.15
@neondead2.0.15 Год назад
This look amazing.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thank you so much! If you have a class you’d like me to revisit next let me know!
@neondead2.0.15
@neondead2.0.15 Год назад
@@bionicdoor Warlock would be nice. It has 3 different specialization's: demon's, curses, and brute fire power that damages you too. (love Affliction Warlock from WoW Cataclysm expansion)
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Warlock is one of my favorite Hearthstone Classes. I will certainly try to do the class justice!
@neondead2.0.15
@neondead2.0.15 Год назад
@@bionicdoor Well you build interesting concepts, maybe someday you will be official designer for Hearthstone card's. Necrotic is really interesting keyword, but i want to know it's multiple use or single use and it stays on enemy or clears after turn ?
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Oh from my Year of Rafaam project! Made that one awhile back, not to found of the Necrotic keyword myself now haha, but Necrotic damage does only happen once it does not stay on the enemy
@blackwolves6925
@blackwolves6925 Год назад
Crazy is part ia I been building decks that Represent each class and spec in wow, and sometimes raids for years now.😅
@magmaragerdecks
@magmaragerdecks Год назад
Fantastic concept and I'm a big fan of everything you post on twitter.
@MikkelCramer
@MikkelCramer 10 месяцев назад
This is incredible. Really great work
@luckyfrog3575
@luckyfrog3575 Год назад
Love the return of custom Hearthstone RU-vid channel but with more interesting mechanics and ideas. 😮
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks! I love custom hearthstone myself and felt there was a lack of RU-vid content for it, glad to help fill that gap a little bit!
@tidepodsrtasty9111
@tidepodsrtasty9111 Год назад
Great video and great idea. Keep up the great work!
@hoodfox6294
@hoodfox6294 Год назад
One of my favorite hearthstone channels now. hope to see this channel thrive :)
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I’m so happy you like the content! I’ve got a lot more on the way!
@ottoprokke6649
@ottoprokke6649 Год назад
Really cool! Im exited to see what you can come up with for the other classes
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I’m glad you like it! I’m honestly quite excited to see what I myself come up with, it’s been a fun process to relook at the old classes
@fabiomartins1534
@fabiomartins1534 Год назад
Excited for rogue and Paladin
@Non-disjunction
@Non-disjunction Год назад
Nice concept and nicely executed. You got something good here
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks a lot 😊
@dilucmain2461
@dilucmain2461 Год назад
You just earned a new sub, i'm really impressed with your redesign of the class. Hope to see more of these cuz its really entertaining.😊
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thank you so much! I’ve got the next one in the works should hopefully have it out very soon!
@KraylebStudios
@KraylebStudios Год назад
Ngl I've been trying to design my own card game similar to Hearthstone where each class had its own gimmick like Runes or your idea for Mage's spell school mechanic. I could learn a lot from this!
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Just checked your channel out, that PvZ game looks very well made! Nice work, yourself!
@KraylebStudios
@KraylebStudios Год назад
@@bionicdoor Why thank you! Sadly the game has been scrapped due to a lack of content, but I'm trying to get back into it! Can't wait to see more of your work!
@Tsuusetsu
@Tsuusetsu Год назад
Very cool. I really enjoy this.
@maicoldibianco9375
@maicoldibianco9375 Год назад
Really nice man!!
@valarem3136
@valarem3136 Год назад
Your idea about re-visiting old hero powers seems trully appealing, but i really love casino mague (Yogg bless the RNG) add an RNG school and im aboard :D
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks! Also I’m sure Arcane could definitely suit some casino archetypes!
@teamndlygo
@teamndlygo Год назад
This is amazing! I also think you should add demon hunter as well not just the original 9 :)
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I do plan to revisit Demon Hunter!
@alexg.b2435
@alexg.b2435 11 месяцев назад
Great, really cool ideas 😊
@Guilhermedetiuki
@Guilhermedetiuki Год назад
Very cool concept. I really liked it
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Thanks!
@melvinsheaddacquiri7635
@melvinsheaddacquiri7635 Год назад
cool video, this is a fun and interesting variety of HS Content
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
So happy you enjoy it! I have a ton of fun making these sort of things and it’s even more fun to share them!
@mpm9333
@mpm9333 Год назад
This is great! I would love to see how you'd tackle rogue
@imperadoraureo
@imperadoraureo Год назад
amazing ideas, i love your channel
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
You have no idea how much that means to me! Thank you so much for leaving such a nice comment ❤
@brogoyle
@brogoyle Год назад
Rare to see a new face of a great hearthstone content creator, you've gained my attention, and i'd be interested in your future vids, not just your hearthstone stuff.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
So glad to here that! What other topics would you be interested in?
@k9commander
@k9commander 8 месяцев назад
Very well done. I could see different aspects of these ideas implemented as Legendary creatures with start of game effects. I think that would be the easiest way to implement these without alienating any players. Not everyone would like changes. Legendaries give the option without actually charging the game.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor 8 месяцев назад
I definitely agree that the Master hero powers would probably work best with a legendary minion instead of a class core mechanic. Though I do still like the idea of each mage being able to choose if their hero power deals frost, arcane, or fire damage. Could open up some interesting outlets for design.
@NocturnoenlasSombras
@NocturnoenlasSombras Год назад
From desining your own HS expantion to desining your own take on the classes, I think you have done a great job. I dont play the game but Im curious to see what would happend if you wold have the team to creat your own card game! Keep up the good work
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
That’s the dream! I would love to someday make my own card game, or at least work on one. I find the card game genera to be one of the most fun and interesting game genera’s!
@jaydenwebster7510
@jaydenwebster7510 Год назад
Very cool.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Hope you all enjoy the video! For an in depth look at exactly how this system works you can find the precise information on my website: lucaswaitkuweit.weebly.com/class-revisits.html
@lich.gr1182
@lich.gr1182 Год назад
what about elementals i mean theres tons of elementals that are fire, arcane and frost should they also get school class too ?
@Beliarz
@Beliarz Год назад
Another well done video. Sry I'm watching them videos backwards😬
@Ovijit001
@Ovijit001 Год назад
Dam devoloper lvl concent
@Moumou_Roi_des_mouettes
@Moumou_Roi_des_mouettes Год назад
3:40 coalescing cold could give frost spell damages until to your armor instead, until it breaks. do a mage must be from one of the 3 schools? can a mage choose no school and be able to discover any spell? i love this idea, i would love the priest rework.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
You don’t have to be exclusive to a specific spell school, you still always pick a study but as long as you remaining a beginner in that study, no deck building restrictions are added
@Moumou_Roi_des_mouettes
@Moumou_Roi_des_mouettes Год назад
is the discovering pool always restricted?
@cloudstrife532220
@cloudstrife532220 Год назад
How would upgrading work with the new Hero Powers? Would you get the Master Hero Power at the adept stage or would the Master Powers themselves get upgraded?
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I originally had a section of the video where I discussed exactly that, the first thought was that Baku would always just give the Upgraded Form of the Beginner Hero Powers even if you are a Master Deck. But I cut it because I am honestly just not sure what the right choice is there. So for now, it is tbd
@FerCL1
@FerCL1 Год назад
Do we need Hearthstone 2.0?!?!
@kibipennelli
@kibipennelli Год назад
may i ask where did u get the art for this video from? looks great bro
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Which art are you specifically talking about? The art in the background is partially just the art of different mage hero skins, and the custom card art I find on Pinterest or the Custom Hearthstone discord server.
@OrdemDoGraveto
@OrdemDoGraveto Год назад
I would change it so that the frost deals 1 damage and freeze. And the fire deals 2 damage to the enemy hero.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I almost did something similar with the frost hero power. It was gonna be deal 1 damage to a random enemy and freeze them. But I really didn’t like the idea of a freeze effect being on a hero power, could be annoying to have your big minion frozen over and over consistently.
@OrdemDoGraveto
@OrdemDoGraveto Год назад
@@bionicdoor There is a Mage minion that does It. And i think It would fit into Frost control aspect much better. I woundlt make It random. Just straight up 1 damage to target minion and freeze It.
@SapoQLxd
@SapoQLxd Год назад
would be cool to see warrior, just because its a bit underwhelming rn
@GigaBoost
@GigaBoost Год назад
Please install a plugin that gives your video editor program spell check.
@necron__7103
@necron__7103 11 месяцев назад
do warlock next!
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor 11 месяцев назад
Will do!
@ryannayeraini7006
@ryannayeraini7006 Год назад
Demon Hunter would be nice (if you could cover it)
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I do plan on covering Demon Hunter as well. Even though it is new, it really didn’t get its own distinct thing, so it’s only fair that it gets one too
@KnucklesUp
@KnucklesUp Год назад
So warrior next??
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Perhaps…
@carbon6111
@carbon6111 Год назад
Would Druid have 4 specs?
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
Haven’t decided on anything for Druid yet. I am using the WoW specializations as inspiration for each class rework and I may very well include all 4 of the Druid ones, but I am not sure just yet
@blackwolves6925
@blackwolves6925 Год назад
I'm was here when your channel blow up😅
@tupacshakur5868
@tupacshakur5868 Год назад
I dont know man, but fire and arcane mage did always kinda exactly the same in wow. Difference is that fire had better aoe and was more rng dependent. Played this class 8 years at 0.1% , they are basically the same.
@stephenberntson4666
@stephenberntson4666 10 месяцев назад
Interesting concept but I have to disagree with the bracketing of every class like DK. There's an argument to be made about forced specialization like the rune system actually limiting deck options and thus limiting creativity and fun.
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor 10 месяцев назад
Totally understand and even somewhat agree. I think it is possible to add deck building restrictions with different subclasses while still keeping deck building open and fun. How I look at it is that each set a class gets 10 cards already and not every deck in that class wants to run all 10 of those cards. An agro deck may want to run the 5 agro cards that fit there deck and ignore the other 5. A subclass system that puts 5 cards from a set into an agro subclass ends with that same result, as the other subclasses/deck types won’t want those cards anyways. Of course you have to be careful with this and I do think there should still be a lot of cards that can be run in any subclass or multiple subclasses to make sure options are always available. For what I’m suggesting here for shaman, I think would have very few cards exclusive to a single path. Which is my way of showing this ideology.
@nikolakarapejevski
@nikolakarapejevski Год назад
god damn this must happen in hs !!!! send your cv to blizzard
@bionicdoor
@bionicdoor Год назад
I have a couple of time, we’ll see what happens!
@Moumou_Roi_des_mouettes
@Moumou_Roi_des_mouettes Год назад
send you're ideas to blizzard
@ploepiplayer6150
@ploepiplayer6150 9 месяцев назад
Cool idea, maybe a bit overwhelming for new players though, maybe add all of these kinds of class specializations after a certain amount of games?
@fastee
@fastee Год назад
as cool as this is, I like to stay a bit more realistic when theoryzing on future mechanics. such a system would be way too complicated for heartstone. personally I think having a rune-like system for every class sounds awesome enough.
@jamesfisher4388
@jamesfisher4388 Год назад
Begginer
@unowno123
@unowno123 8 месяцев назад
I don't think deathknight is well designed class, it has incredible powercreeped cards and just recycles stuff we already know blood deathknight is infinite removal generation frost is just another mage OTK and plague is just another aggro deck that litterally wins using their own discounted bloodlust deathknight brings nothing new, just recycled old playstyle with a new visual
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