@@vkirua8193 the why does he wear 23, why does he say he was chasing the ghost in chicago, why is he so obsessed in chasing rings, why is he producing space james 2?
This was a great simulation except for one MAJOR plot hole... Kobe’s play style is modeled after Jordan’s, move for move. I wonder if Kobe would have been as skilled if he didn’t have Jordan to model after.
its not easy to copy jordan....even myself and others have tried....Kobe is the true clone of jordan....i didnt hate kobe but we could have made or add other moves like jordan took from Dr J and made is own moves....the diference between jordan and kobe its that natural instinct of not losing a fucking playoofs finals....he was a leader...he was rude he was beating people but i guess for u to be the best you have to be there and only there on top.....like it or not...we will never see a player with that mentality....thats why jordan is still the goat
@@celsoalexandre9118 yeah if lebron had less faith in scrubs like old Jr and other crap Cavs players they might've won an extra chip but Jordan would still be the goat
Hey Guys, When I hit 100,000 subscribers, I knew I had to make you guys a video that showed my appreciate for your overwhelming support. The growth that our community has had is nothing short of INSANE. And so, when thinking of a topic for my 100k special, I decided that I didn't want to do something cliche like a Q&A. I decided that I wanted to give you guys the content you want, and the videos you guys most request are my What If Videos. So as a thank you for 100,000 subscribers, I created this What If for you. It was definitely the hardest video I have ever made, as I had to go back 12 seasons as well as add a completely new player into the modern NBA. But it was definitely worth it, because I know you guys will enjoy it. So again thank you, you guys are the best supporters in the world. Mike PS. It's crazy to say, but it looks like I'm going to hit 200k in the not so distant future. With another milestone in mind, I wanted to know what you guys think of me creating another channel when I hit 200k for videos that do not fit on this channel. On my other channel I could do some funny videos like "Reacting to my old videos" (Trust me, I have TONS of cringy old videos) and also do some vlogs when I do something cool and play some NBA 2k. Let me know if you guys are interested, and if you are I'll make it happen!
Dude ik you are going to be a huge RU-vider, you'll be so big you'll run out of ideas for what ifs, then you'll have to play 2k for us hahah anyway great video
nice achievement Mike, my friend and I we're actually talking about your Jordan video on why he isn't human and had a fun talk. I'm all up for watching you play 2k and hope to play you sometime PS. where's my what if Granger never got hurt and pg13 was never discovered and cp3 switched with Dwill draft lol
I think this dude mike deserves his own show on like SC or ESPN or something because he's just golden, I get notifications on a new video you upload and I get instantly hyped from it lol it would be great to see you do things like this on tv
I agree, he was so dominant of a player, he overcame those areas to make them non factors. Jordan is/was just on a whole other level, people who weren't there to be part of it just don't understand the things he did as they happened.
+Lucixir Well said friend. I'm so grateful to have been old enough to vividly remember how great MJ really was, and to see how fierce of a champion he really was. Being old enough to see the highs and lows of the NBA since the Jordan era, I don't hate on Lebron or Curry but there's really no comparison. Kobe is the closest there ever was to Mike and he's not even a close second.
There is a flaw in this system... Dwight Howard Unfortunately would never have been able to play with Michael Jordan and his intensity. Howard has proven that he just doesn’t take criticism well AT ALL. Jordan would have been “too tough” on him.
or maybe he just didnt care. he's making money and getting laid. also depends on how you define tough...1 on 1 ball...mj would probably win skills wise but if dwight wanted to really hurt jordan by being tough...you'd have to be dumb to bet against dwight. there is a reason why combat sports have weight classes. if you think 80s and 90s..they actually tried to hurt and be tough with jordan ...you my friend need a reality check. how many times was jordan busted open?? look at how van fleet was busted open a month ago on an inadvertent elbow and ask yourself why jordan didnt bleed when everybody went for him hard. at a certain age, you have to realize we were at a very impressionable age when jordan played and that clouds our nostalgia A LOT
@@salman13 thats not what they mean by tough, their probably aiming at the point that Howard and Kobe didnt work because Kobe called Howard soft cause of his work etich etc... I just dont think Howard would fit on a team with Jordan the same way he didnt fit with Kobe, he dont have that mentality
ThatBoyRaww 1 the lakers might have won another or maybe the pistons, the jazz would have multiple titles Seattle would probably have one the Knicks to maybe and Phoenix and Portland
Mike was a mentor to Kobe. Not sure who the originator of this quote but "Good artist borrow, great artist steal; I'm great because I stand on the shoulders of giants".
A 6'10 " power forward(cause that's where they would play him now) with almost unlimited range, great passing instincts, solid to above average rebounding which in today's game would be magnified because of his toughness, and a guy who could guard magic Johnson and even Michael Jordan when he was past his prime with a bad back. Yeah I'm sure no team would want that. Aren't stretch 4's all the rage right now? As for questions about speed. If Luis Scola can even make a playoff bound raptors team with his speed at 36 much less start, then Bird would be able to run with these guys no problem, especially before his back problems
Lakeshow nba. Hold this L. Bird would be horrible defensively? Do you watch basketball smh. And I'd start bird at the Sf postion, then sometimes play him at Pf. If bird were on the celtics Thomas Bradley Bird Sully Johnson 58-24
+Jesus-is LORD wasn't even alive in 80s but from what I've seen he doesn't have much athleticism or strength... I think he would easily get crossed up by the many elite PGs in the league.
most likely wouldn't, because Hakeem was hungry for championships and was the most dominant player at the time. He also lost Horace Grant (a key player when he 3-peated), and got swept in the 95 semi-Conferece finals against the Magic (the team Horace Grant signed with).
RU-vid's official W/L referee if jordan would never have retired they would have definitely won 8 straight. They lost to the magic after his retirement when he had taken over a year off and he was still rusty from his "baseball" experiment. Nobody was more hungry than mike in any era.
Nah bruh gotta disagree, jordan never went to a game 7 in the finals. That rocket team u talking about took 7 games to get rid of the knicks, which jordan always beat.
@@justinrakestraw4142 nah he would average about 292,322,232,323,654,343 points, assists and rebounds per game before the infamous "scal" rule which permitted scal and scal only to not be able to shoot, pass, or move in front of the opposition's hoop. but, he only average 30 points rebounds and assists less
@@jayvader9023 There is no way he would've averaged 292,322,232,323,654,343 points, assists and rebounds per game. Like c'mon, he'd average WAY more. 501,324,679,211,765,900,104,502,965 points, assists, rebounds, steals, and blocks. At LEAST.
If Michael Jordan hadn't played when he did, half the NBA players of the more recent era, including Iverson (who would likely have gone to the NFL), would probably not even have played basketball, and therefore not be in the simulation. And this is the true impact of Michael Jordan on the game, and why he is truly the greatest of all time: he made the NBA what it is today, and had the greatest positive effect on the game, ever.
This is the true main point. He was the reason everyone was watching basketball from 87 onward. People were watching him to see him win or to hope he would lose. Basketball would never have risen to its prominence it has had since then. And even after he retired, the world was already hooked and there were still lots of prominent players to watch. It seems to me that the NBA has run out of such players since then.
If Jordan played today he would still be the greatest. If he never played, the game would not have evolved as quickly. One of a kind in every way. No other like him.
Chris Peterkin really good point. A lot of players that are in the game today wouldn't even be there without MJ's influence on the game. He changed the NBA.
DefinitelyNOTJordan so if Lebron played in 80s he would have training,practice and suplements from nowdays...you think Lebron will look like in 80s like today??? This is not time traveling...Cristiano Ronaldo in Pele era would be skinny bitch...Now do you imagine what would do Jordan with nowdays conditions,suplements and rules?
Infamous Tom Not for sure though because in this NBA you're allowed to play zone defense. MJ even said he wouldn't have had the career he did if Zone defense was aloud in his time period.
MJ played against zone defense in college and faired well, in a controlled Dean Smith system (winning 2 POY awards). Also, the zone plays into a strength of Jordan, it opens up for a good mid-range jumpshot shooter. Good try friend.
When you mentioned the top SG during the '03 season, you forgot a certain someone who averaged 32ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg and was considered the top SG at that time. His name? Tracy McGrady.
One thing everyone forget to mention is MIchael Jordan IS the most technically sound player of basketball till now… His technique was flawless… so given the modern times , he still has a significant edge over everyone,, back in his time, when the game was more hard, jordan rules, bad boy pistons, and tough refrees , he was still able to reach the rim… Today it will be a cakewalk for him … he will find a way for sure to beat every obstacle
Sick video Mike! In this alternate universe, Kobe's game would be drastically different (his moves, awards, points, etc) because he wouldn't have modeled his game after Jordan.
Gabriel Tse. None of Michael Jordan's so-called moves were new. The Globetrotters had been doing every move ever seen 25 years before Jordan was born. Pistol Pete Maravich had all the moves, also. Wilt dunked from beyond the free throw line before he ever played an oficial college game. Take away Jordan, and everything is still on film.
Y’all can chill we all know if Brian Scalabrine was in this Modern Nba he’d be averaging 157.7 ppg 57 assists 89 rebounds 45 blocks and 77 steals a game and also a 101x champ 263 all nba first team 507 time mvp and he’d be better than Jordan
I think you're looking for the "What If Brian Scalabrine Played in the 1950's" simulation. A 7-foot "freak athlete" who can shoot 3-poin--I mean, very long 2-pointers 23 feet away from the basket.
This is actually funny from one stand point of view - without Jordan it wouldn't be Kobe, there wouldn't be Spurs, Allan Iverson and many others who propably wound't went to NBA or wouldn't even be playing basketball if not for Jordan. So the league now is somewhat modelled by him. He was such an incredible athlete, that in Europe, even in my native Poland ordinary people would wear Bulls caps every day. He was and will be legendary not because how many rings he had, but because he made this sport one of the coolest and most entartainig thing on this planet. You can call him the God of Sports. And going back to question from the title - I think he would still dominate. Just look at how he figured out and destroyed Carter in his prime at age 38.
It's almost impossible to compare, without the bad boys pistons, Jordan would've been less great. He did say that himself, how they impacted his style of play and mindset
I think it was accurate until the 14 - 15 season, by then dwight was a joke in the NBA defense was horrible and he had no post game. Curry and Thompson were unstoppable and nearly impossible to guard. PLus Goran Dragic was NOT the dynamic scorer he was in this vid, if i'm right he only averaged about 15 a game or something. Despite Jordan's best efforts Curry and Thompson trump him in that season. He can shut down one of them, but he can't guard both at the same time. But seriously, it was a great video
@@enterzync2630 Then Cleveland is lucky to have Jordan in their team not just that he will carry them but also he himself will inculcate good knowledge and work ethics to these young bloods! to be good solid team players and world champions! w/c is very very different in bron
Yeah but if Jordan enters the league after Kobe in 2002 then Kobe wouldn't have had MJ to model his game after. He would be a completely different player. Same with Wade
@@jasonwins5516 that wouldn't be a great matchup, they played different positions and russell wouldnt be able to defend him very much. he would eat the guy defending him and whoever bill was on would never get the ball. with would be better.
Look at the stats. Lebron gets more rebounds than Jordan. So Lebron is still the G.O.A.T. Lebron James is much better than Mike Jeffrey Jordan. This is why Jordan changed his jersey to 45, so Lebron could wear 23. So Lebron would be a trend setter, and ORIGINAL, who played so well that he made his number popular.
I completely agree. No way either LeBron's last-year Cavs or the 2 years-ago, overrated Warriors beats the '87 Lakers, '86 Celtics, or the '96 Bulls. Maybe not even that Moses and Doctor J team with Cheeks and Toney and Bobby Jones, or the Bad Boy Pistons. Ike and Dumars would've destroyed the W's back-court, and their front line would've taken Draymond out of the equation. The only x-factor there is KD, but I tend to think Laimbeer, Salley, Mahorn, and Rodman would give him all he could handle. Lots of fouls to give at the FW position; KD is one of my favorite modern playas, but like 6'11' and 205 pounds. He's got a George 'Iceman' Gervin-type build. The more I watch old Bird highlights, the more I'm aware of what a talented player he truly was, and I'm saying that as a life-long Lakers fan, as well as a guy who hated the Celtics. The one guy I thing might have been as good then as he is now is my man Russell Westbrook, because of his insane athleticism. Not to take anything away from LBJ, because we've never seen anything like him, but it is, after all, a team game.
People say Jordan is the goat cause hes a humble guy and succesfull , i Mean if thats the case then we all can say that Keanu Reeves or Nelson Mandela are the GOAT of NBA , its stupid to say Jordan or kobe overall game is better than Lebron , people need to be honest man
+phillyslasher playing against 6'8 guys and there was no 3sec violation imagine if shaq could camp in the paint with 6'8 players guarding him lol and he got expose by russel a guy who can actually play as a C
What are you talking about? Even for the modern day, Wilt Chamberlain was an insane athlete. He was the LeBron of his era in terms of athleticism, and he was 7'1" to cap it off. He was a track star all throughout high school, reportedly had a 48" vertical (the same as Michael Jordans, and he was taller), he could run the court and AVERAGED 48.5 MINUTES PER GAME, IN A FASTER PACED GAME AND WITH ROUGHER PLAYERS. The NBA isn't nearly as rough as it was back then, and most stars play less than 40 minutes still. He averaged more minutes than were in a game for an entire season. That takes incredible stamina and athleticism. The fact that he was such an incredible athlete alone could get him through today's NBA, but if you compare it with a wide skillset, he would be a monster, and still be an all-time great Center assuming he was already used to the different NBA rules. He was the only person who could block Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Sky hook as well, and regularly blocked shots as high as the backboard, and most people said he would have averaged 5+ blocks a game if they were recorded back then.
john terrik I wasnt around to see him or the 90s era but I did watch a couple games with wilt playing on nbatv he has nice post hook he played like d12 in orlando without the amazing dunks
Agree with everything you said. On top of the freakish athlecticism Wilt was incredibly skilled. He had a turnaround fadeaway off the glass( A la Dirk), a fingeroll, and he could face up from around 12 ft out and take it to the basket. Not to mention he was a great passer too, leading the league in assists one yr.(In an era where the assist was much harder to get). Its a lot of misconceptions about that era. Like the 6 ft 6 inch white guy myth.The avg height of a center is about the same as it is now. Maybe taller considering that they were measured barefoot back then( Wilt would be listed as 7'2 or 7'3 if he played now for example). Another misconception is the lack of competition. WIlt played against multiple hall of fame bigs( Russell, Kareem, Unseld, Thurmond, Reed, Bellamy etc) 10-12 times a year because there were only 8 teams back then. The center position in that day is sort of like the point guard spot today. I think prime Wilt, Rusell, Oscar, Jerry West, Baylor among others could easily play today and hold their own. Sorry for the rant I just hate when that era gets disrespected
Jordan wouldn't win a ring in today's NBA because with all the stretch 4s and 3pt shooting centers out there, a wide open paint, no hand checking and so many foul calls he would get so goddamn bored of scoring 60 a night he would literally go play baseball before all star break in his rookie season and never return.
Just a Giga just saying but the hand check rule is kind of dumb and makes the game boring. Jordans time was much more fun to watch with everyone driving to the basket. Putting up harder defense than players today could ever do.
One thing you didn't factor in... Zone defense. Zone defense was outlawed during Jordan's run with the Bulls. It would definitely have an effect on his offensive output. Jordan himself once famously insisted that he would not have had the career that he did if zone defense was allowed. He also said that it would take superstars out of the game.
+Elias Mehrzai Educate yourself. Search for "(Request Vid)NBA Defenses - Changing the game" on RU-vid. It explains the impact that zone defense had on the league.
I actually replied to someone in these comments about that exact same thing. Completely on point. Whatever advantage Mike would have gained from no hand checking would have been balanced out by zone D/roaming defenders/ more sophisticated schemes. Especially would have been a factor earlier in his career when his jump shot was a lot shakier. Would have been awesome no matter what though lol
The reason Michael Jordan is GOAT, he literally changed the game of basketball. He shaped the players we have (had) now with his athleticism, skill and hard work. Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Iverson, McGrady, Westbrook, Durant, Rose (before his injury), Kawhi, etc etc...
Mike, Love your channel. With the Summer Olympics coming up could you please consider doing a series of videos about the 1992 Dream Team. Specifically the rumor that Michael Jordan did not want Isaiah Thomas on the team. The Greatest Game No Body Saw. How Jordan and Pippen guarded Toni Kukoc.
MJ was unstoppable! If everyone could re experience that whole era fresh it would be a no brainer that MJ and the bulls were the bench mark of all sports in the world and everyone knew it. MJ has the clutch stats and results. He is the GOAT
I think the only flaw in your scenario is the cooperativeness of Dwight Howard. He has outright said that playing with Kobe was too demanding and it's hard to believe that he would cooperate with an even fiercer competitor, who fought his own teammates. He just has the stigma of being a self-centered prima donna, but he might cooperate if they were winning.
I think Dwight would've been able to co-exist with Jordan. Dwight would be coming in as a rookie and be molded by Jordan, and had this scenario played out as described in the video, Dwight would've been good, because his legacy would've been incredible, even as a second banana, and he would want it to stay that way.
IK that was a joke but James Harden doesn't actually have bad defense sure sometimes he doesn't really try on defense but his overall defense is still okay (and it was actually quite good last season) it's just that his defense is disappointing compared to his offense
+Marquis Brown yeah I was axaggerating but he would have a career high on James Har_en that's for sure and he would be able to average 40 ppg in this watered-down Era.
One thing I have to throw in there though... the bulls would have no Phil Jackson. Wasn't until Phil that they started winning championships. I think this scenario plays out better if MJ doesn't go to the bulls in that draft. What if he ended up on the knicks or something? Now that would be interesting
Kelly Pagano the coach definitely makes the difference. Jackson has all thise rings because of his genius and not because he had the greatest player in the world, along with two of the greatest, with the most dominant center. but yea, they couldnt donit wthout the coaching
BodhiZaffa yeah Phill jackson won championships because of himself not because of guys like Jordan and Pippen or Kobe and Shaq..based on your comment Phill Jackson can go to the worst team in the nba without any star players and just flat out win championships with that team year aftet year lol..your a fkn idiot
What's interesting is MJ would play even better in Modern day and that mid range would be the death strike for any team. Lebron would be freak of nature if he played in the 80's 6'8 250 running faster than the guards. Lebron's stats would probably be out of reach as well as he would have 4 or 5 rings maybe more. His assist would be crazy seeing as his bigs he would have at his leisure
gip1279 this era allows for him to flop just like other players flop and cry to the ref. Back then he would not be able to do that so he wouldn't Dude nobody could contain Jordan so what were they going to do with a guy like lebron who could do everything and was faster than everyone? Yall sound stupid as fuck
I'm no LBJ hater... But I have to say that doesn't make sense... First off, in the 80's he wouldn't have even developed the same way positionally. He could have been placed at the PG position due to people seeing his similar skill set to Magic, the SF position where he would have been asked to be a defensive stopper and he would have to develop a better post game, or he would have been placed at PF position where he would have been physically assaulted every night. All of that said, I don't see anything in his game that shows that he could hold up or would even want to play against the physical play of the 80's.
This was cool.....under the modern NBA rules I believe that Jordan would have won 6-8 Championships & he would've averaged 45 ppg in his prime years & shot 53% to 55% career FG%. This was truly one of the best RU-vid videos I have watched.
+Stephen John Yes I've been watching basketball a long time. Let's see in the Jordan area he didn't have the benefit of no-touch rules on the perimeter. Big man could camp in the paint all day long. The hand checking, fragrant fouls were rarely called. No one plays defense anymore. Just like game OKC 's vs GSW, it's all about who outscores who. Jordan averaged 37 ppg one season in a much tougher and physical league so you can't say 45 ppg is crazy it is very realistic. If you look at his career stats Jordan shot over 50% three or four seasons in a row. He would destroy this league under these rules.
+Stephen John Zone Defense does it mean todayz defense is tougher. It is lazy mans defense imho. When zone defense was illegal it meant that you had to be a good one-on-one Defender but you could still double team and trap. Look at how the Lakers play defense in the eighties. Look at how physical the Pistons and the Knicks played defense in the late eighties & early nineties. The Pistons would have broke both of Kobe's legs before he got anywhere near 81 points. None of these guards today would be able to get to the rim so easily. Remember there is no perimeter defense now! You can easily pull up for a three-pointer (Steph Curry) or get the quick step on your defender and take it to the rim. So the 80's & 90's were weak? Here is a short list of some of the players that MJ played against: Mitch Richmond, Tim Hardaway, Magic Johnson, Penny Hardaway, James Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, David Robinson, Chris Mullin, Gary Payton, Isaiah Thomas, John Stockton, Kevin Johnson, Clyde Drexler, a young Shaq & Alonzo so all these are scrubs? Finally with the exception of maybe the '00-'02 Lakers dynasty, every team that the Bulls beat in the NBA Finals would stomp the shit out of every millennium era NBA Champion.
Bullcrap. that's how I know you didn't start watching basketball until ten years ago. Defenses are way weaker now......do you know what hand checking is? They don't have it anymore, they outlawed it for today's players... And they're softer, do you see the way OKC is physically beating up Golden State right now? All of this driving in the lane and getting a foul call every time you barely get touched? you can hang that up; by the end of the season little players like Stephan Curry would be broke. They used to allow Zone Defenders to stand in the paint...bet you didn't know that either though... Google any professional basketball analyst opinion and you'll see they all unanimously think that the league is fundamentally worth worse now. you can buy your own hype too much.... you need to go listen to Public Enemy....lol.
Dude, Brandon Roy?!?! He is an f'ing beast. Only player to be able to shut down Kobe almost every match up, irl. Ahhh fuuck, did you do that to Roy to keep it realistic or did the game give him bad knees?
yeah nobody shut down kobe. Like No one. I can't remember anyone ever saying "Hey man did you see so and so shut down Kobe last night?". The man had the greatest Televised scoring performance of all time. Wilt's 100 was not televised and was only witnessed by 3.4k people. If anything Kobe and Jordan should've gone back and forth championships until 2012-2013. That's just how good they were. The only guy shutting down kobe EVER would be Jordan at his best. The only guy shutting Jordan down EVER is Kobe at his best.
Yeah, Michael Jordan would punch little Steve Kerr in the face. So if Kobe's words can make Dwight leave Michael would have made him retire out of embarrasment
That would be suck. I hated Kobe for several seasons, but after all he is not that bad, I will miss him and his scoring show(only in season game of course).
Hamza Beast he would overcame any challenge he came across in this era like he did in the 90s shit mj was obsessed with winning an being the best he could an doing everything in his power to win shit just look at his flue game
That’s one of the many issues. It’s a fun concept to play around with but there’s never gonna be any answers because of variable just like the one you mentioned. I think the league is much deeper with talent these days so it’s hard to say if they’d blow through competition the same way even if all the Bulls draft picks and trades still did work out
nah i doubt that Michael Jordan will evolve also in this modern era if he ever played today there are lots of different factors that you don't see in the past and today because in the past for example its hard to dunk the ring in the NBA than today using soft ring than the past ,and its far more serious back in the day because of physical and trash talk they throw to you personally, which Michael Jordan is good at that many threats of life Michael jordan as just to sale his game, but he never did
Why... Do people who love playing devil advocate have to be atheist like the red color youtube above. Smh Jordon would wreck in today's leave like he did in the era before and that's that.
+Jesus-is LORD lol mj would average around 40pts( for his career) he might be a little worse defensively at first because of no hand checking but after a bit he would be the best 2 way player in the league
Bird and LeBron are completely different players. Bird has better hand-eye coordination with a better natural feel for the game and is a much better shooter. LeBron is so much more athletic and strong though. I would love to possess a time traveling machine just to see this hypothetical dream match. Either way, best two SF ever to play the game.
In the 46 games that Jordan played in 01/02(age 38-39) before the injury, he averaged 25.1 - 6.2 - 5.3 - 1.5 - 0.5 on 42% points - rebounds - assists - steals - blocks Jordan's numbers were also improving as the season went on. In his last 20 games up to the injury he averaged 27.5 - 6.4 - 5.2 - 1.3 - 0.5 on 44% In his last 10 games up to the injury he averaged 29.7 - 6.6 - 6.1 - 1.2 - 0.3 on 47% That's why I laugh when people say he can't play in this era look what this man was doing to your favorite players at age 39 GOAT shit nigga Some more interesting stuff. In 1998/99, the last season of real defense, only 3 players averaged over 23 ppg. After the 1999/00 rule changes to weaken defense, 9 players averaged over 23 ppg! In 1998/99, the last season of real defense, only 5 players averaged 8+ apg! After the 1999/00 rule changes to weaken defense, 9 players averaged 8+ apg! In 1998/99, the last season of real defense, only 7 players averaged over 50% FG! After the 1999/00 rule changes to weak defense, 15 players averaged over 50% FG! The only players that averaged 50% FG in 98/99 were power forwards or centers. I mean, Gary Payton's scoring/Assist averages after the rule changes are better than his prime scoring/ Assist averages! take a look -> Gary Payton In his prime, 1995-1999 6th season - 19.3 ppg + 7.5 apg (Age 27) - won DPOY, led 1996 Sonics to the Finals where they won 2 games against the 72-10 Bulls. 7th season - 21.8 ppg + 7.1 apg (Age 28) 8th season - 19.2 ppg + 8.3 apg (Age 29) 9th season - 21.7 ppg + 8.7 apg (Age 30) Now, a past prime Payton for 4 years post 98-99 rule changes had -> 10th season - 24.2 ppg + 8.9 apg (age 31) - 99-00 season - (first season without hand-checking) 11th season - 23.1 ppg + 8.1 apg (Age 32) 12th season - 22.1 ppg + 9.0 apg (Age 33) 13th season - 20.4 ppg + 8.3 apg (Age 34) Payton's FG% increased every year from his 9th season to his 12th season, with only a 1.3% decrease in his 13th season. NBA players' primes(not saying all, but most) end at about age 30, yet Payton even at age 31-34 overall put up better scoring AND assist numbers than he did from age 27 to age 30. NBA.com even agrees. The rule changes leading up to 2004 made the game easier.
man if they can hide guys like Curry on defense I'm sure Bird would be fine and Bird would damn near average 30 he was a deadly shooter perfect in today's game where they jack up 20 3's a game.
lmao 'lack of athleticism' it's not like larry bird couldn't dunk, or was slow. People really just think he's a white hick and isn't athletic at all. That man was the cornerstone of the celtics franchise and beat Magic johnson's lakers, whom many consider to be one of the greatest teams of all time. all these fucks who say bird would be a scrub are brain dead
he's better then LeBron for a fact sure bird doesnt have athleticism But at least bird didnt try to be a one man show and made his team better thats what won him a ring
yea I didn't even let the video get that far cuz Jordan would obviously score more points in these times and would make some of these scenarios obsolete
knightofdreamz - I know ur a kid who isn't old enough to have withnessed the 90s bc if u did u would realize how ridiculous your assertions are. There was an incredible amount of talent in the 90s and an incredible amount of parity in the league at the time as opposed to today. I could argue this ad nauseum and go through teams a well as players of that era it I will sum it up simply with 2 words to avoid that headache. "Dream Team" and I'm referring to the first DT, although the 2nd team was also comprised of 90s superstars and mostly HOFamers. Obviously with tHe exception of C. Laettner, the original DT are all HOFamers and was still is the greatest collection NBA players ever to be assembled on a single team. And threre were so many more players that should have been on it but there just wasn't enuf slots. To say that he 90s was lacking of talent in comparison the 2000s is the most ludicrous statement ever and makes your articulate argument baseless. I won't even bother to delve into the fact that defenses were much more difficult and physical in the 90s bc of the rule changes which makes the 90s more difficult even without considering talent disparities. IMO, MJ faced more difficult competition in the 90s than Kobe did in the 2000s but I understand if one argues its somewhat close. But to state that Kobe easily faced stiffer competition in the 2000s and using players like Paul Pierce as your proof is the most uninformed, senseless statement ever in regards to the NBA!!
Yeah, he said to not COMPARE players that played in different eras. He never said you couldn't do a "What If" video on what would happen if another player PLAYED in a different era. Two things.
The only part of the video that isn't believable is LeBron not winning MVP in the 2008-09 season. That was the best individual season in NBA history, and even MJ at his peak couldn't have taken the MVP from him. Really entertaining video! Love the finale of MJ's last season especially.
It's believable because the MVP isn't just about stats, or else both MJ and LeBron would have won more. It's much more of a toss up between MJ's best seasons and LeBron's than it is between LeBron and Derrick Rose the season Rose won the MVP. We all know LeBron's numbers were more than slightly better but Rose won the MVP because his team had a better record and it made for a better story.
You think it's believable that Brandon Roy takes enough shots to score 20 points a night while playing behind Jordan? Is Jordan playing a lot of SF, or is Roy playing a lot of PG? Either way, someone is going to be grossly out of position. And what is Deng doing while all this is going on?
Dino Spumoni I Apologize. I ment to comment on somebody else. What you said makes perfect since. It does go to the best player on the best team. I hope you except my apology😁
Just to add. Brandon Roy was injured coming into the league and only scored 16 a night on 13 shots in 35 minutes a game as a rookie. That was as the go-to option on a bad team. The next year, healthy, 19 pts, 16 shots, 37 minutes a night. Again, as the go to guy. How in the world does he beat those numbers in far less minutes, playing next to someone that dominates the ball the way Jordan does? And we're not even including that whenever Jordan wasn't dominating the ball that Howard would be.
