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Orochimaru had the sand and sound, not the grass I belive. also guy lost to kisame with 5 gates and blitzed him at 6, he was tired and without his sword tho, and 8 gates was far weaker then madara who scales to dms kakashi, naruto, sasuke, and sakura in boruto which is wack. btw all otsutsuki scale above tailed beasts. oh btw the other tailed beasts have physical releases but kurama has kurama avatar, which is actually stronger then the normal nine tails.