WHAT IF Oberyn Lived? | Game Of Thrones WHAT IF 

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@@TheBattProductions This is the way.

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Absolutely

Oberyn “you are from essos ..Let me guess, leece ? I have ear for accents.” Varys “I’ve lost my accent entirely” Oberyn “I have an accent for that too” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I agree no offense to the Starks but net and the red wedding just didn’t really do it for me.

@@Degamer422 me too even though I loved em all

@@Degamer422 it's just the cruelty

It's possible he could've left poison behind, true. I think taking the Mountain for now and then eventually Tywin would be enough for him, if it means he gets to live.

Then oberyn hptried to help Tyrion and help himself, he failed both but he tried and so Tyrion replayed him with that :)

@@TheBattProductions it was implyed that Tywin was poisned by Oberyn before his death. It's part of the reason he was using the bathroom so often and why his body smelled so foul after his death in the books.

I think shae is finish and is a sand snake sent to get close to tywin through Tyrion...that's how she ended up in his bed... when Tyrion discovered her there she had pulled a blade from her pillow... meaning she was already prepared to stab someone... maybe tywin before Tyrion steals the show

@@aaronalvin3992 i do see the fact that Tywin was killed on the shitter to be the most poetic justice ever lolz

Very cool.

he could have called in the Vale army way earlier by asking Robin. or having Sansa ask him. that means 40 000 men attack Winterfell, not 2000. up to you who wins that but Winerfell under the Boltons isnt gonna stay pro bolton forever under siege. and the Northerners only refused to help Sansa as they didnt see this as a war they coudl win, but clearly they could win if they had the numbers in addition to the Vale armies. so Sansa would be installed as Queen much earlier, maybe as early as the end of Season 5.

Oh yeah, where would he be in all this. Surely he would have received news of this

Yeah, he kind of just gotten dumb over the seasons and then died.

I really don’t know why he didn’t just do this initially. What a way to win the North on your side: win their home back with a Stark as your bride.

Literally Everything Changes

Well, Robert would have been killed as well, Joffrey would become King as well, but, i think, ned would do nothing or support Stannis (because he knows Stannis is King by Right). After that, there are very much oportunities.

Nah I think there would've been a confrontation at the gate between Lannister and maybe Baratheon forces stopping them from leaving

Krypto Kly well stannis probably wouldn’t have tried to fight the crown as everyone thought Joffrey had the rightful reign and no one would have been able to support Stannis.

@@lethallizard_4493 As Jorah said, the commoners couldn't really care less who's on the throne so as long as they're not dying. The Baratheon children's legitimacy was always called into question to the point no one really believed Joffrey was Roberts they just didn't know who they belonged to other than Cersei until investigations were done by Jon Arryn and Stannis. Joffrey just sat on the throne and people basically accepted it because they're scared Joffrey would kill them or His mother, or Tywin. Everyone is afraid of the lannisters.

And season 7

@@jordanbelfort4103 And 6

Alright we all can agree 1-4 was perfect everything after that should not be mentioned

@@darthlazurus4382 6 is not bad

you GRRM by not WRITING THEM DAMN BOOKS

i agree. this isn't robert's rebellion, he can't just wait it out and declare for whoever is clearly gonna win. this is the living vs the dead, the lines are already drawn.

Patrick Emmanuel I wrote a comment about my opinions on this, it’s lost in the many replies but I’d appreciate it if you read it.

Rosani Rodrigues that would be more of a “What if Myrcella lived” kind of video cuz Myrcella died from poison before tommen

Anonymous Guy I know I just rushed out my comment

Definitely a cool one.

Then Dorne's efforts may have been worth something in the end.

@@anonymousguy996 well if Oberyn lived then Myrcella probably would’ve lived too right?

Benjen and Ned told him they would talk about his mother at a later date. So if that later date would've come what would've happened?

@@billdenny9599 Well, Ned said he would tell him next time they met. So, it would have to be that they somehow meet before Jon gets to the wall.

@@thesenate9562 its the what I was referring to as opposed to the when. I think both Benjen and (obviously) Ned knew of Jon's true identity and they were waiting for him to take his Night's Watch vows before telling him because they knew it was the safest way to protect him from King Robert's wrath.

Then season 8 would be full of meaningful scenes and not just switching someone's heritage so there's extra drama to rap up a shit conclusion

I’m still convinced Bran was playing everyone just to make the future he wanted to come true. He told Sam because he knew he would tell Jon and put some drama between him and Dany early on.

@@KimM13744 same.

Jon was always meant to know his heritage dany is never meant to rule so many clues pointing to her being nothing more than a cruel thug everything she does turns to shit

@@allmightynerd6041 agreed

Or if you want to stretch it farther, what if Arya carried on to Kings Landing to kill Cersei after hearing about the Starks defeating the Bolton’s and retaking Winterfell?

Yeah but why would there be an alliance between the Lannister and the Martells if there is no war yet?

@@arthurbriand2175 The Martell's were summoned to be on the council by Jon Arryn in order to stabilize the realm and someone as astute as Doran would see the benefit of having a seat at the table in the decision making process.

@@knivesmillions2913 When is that said in the books? I just rechecked a wiki of ice and fire and on Doran's, Tyrion's and Oberyn's pages, it is said that the seat on the small council was part of the alliance between Dorne and the Iron Throne along with the hand of Myrcella and some castles. But I really like your scenario, it's original and would literally be another way for Arya who would end up in Dorne instead of Braavos.

@@arthurbriand2175 If things work out in a certain direction like if you include some elements of the book Arya could end up going to Dany alongside Quentin Martell or she could be going with one of the Sand Snakes to meet Young Griff and the Golden Company in the Stormlands but all of this is only possible if she gains Doran's trust over the years and he let's her in on the Targaryen restoration plan. There's also a chance that Oberyn during the battle of blackwater would sneak Sansa out of the city and have her sent to Dorne to be with her sister.

Actually out-smarting Ollenna Tyrell is like trying to Out-Pizza the Hut. It's impossible.

In basic terms: The Lannisters would have *significantly* less leverage/ control; they wouldn't be able to try & lay claim to Winterfell through marrying Tyrion to Sansa, nor get anyone to later accept their fake 'Arya' marrying Ramsay. If the girls are safe, Catelyn has no reason to free Jaime - with the girls, the Starks hold even more hands to offer in marriage alliances; they could make deals with Renly & the Tyrells- & even Stannis & the Stormlands. Let's say Catelyn is able to go to the Baratheon brothers, with the offer of her daughters, for a mutual alliance against the Lannisters- maybe Stannis remains stubborn, but Renly/ the Tyrells might consider the offer of Sansa (thinking ahead that if Robb dies, a son of hers would have a claim to the North- thereby giving them more power & influence). As sad as it would be, to lose Ned- Robb's his heir - if anything, it would be more important than ever to keep Ned _alive_ - to get the North & the Riverlands back into the fold. The moment Ned dies, the North has nothing to lose by breaking away. Also, the decision to offer Myrcella to Dorne might happen earlier, to try & strengthen their support- but that decision was made by Tyrion, & Tyrion didn't come to Kingslanding until after Ned's death - it's unlikely Cersei (or _Joffrey_ ) would make such a politically astute move, & no one else appears to be in a position to do so...

To be honest if the show could have changed that I think his death would have been by the cause of Knight King and his death army [Like trying to give time and later on that he gets killed then the Knight King revives him as a New and strong soldier] *(That would have been a perfect of him)*

@leonpride not if the north fought back or ned hid jon.

Josh Powell if jon took the black. Probably nothing.

Josh Powell probably nothing since when Jon takes the black he’s out of the reach of the law

@@GabesEdtiz I meant before

Josh Powell well then I have no clue

They'll definitely have a lot of work to do to rebuild relations with the rest of Westeros and rebuild Kings landing

I wish they were co rulers ,there chemistry was not written well but very cute

I’ll tell you what! I wouldn’t be crying as hard as I did with Shireen

King Stannis would know

@@theone7593 in the show he only found out because of ned.

@@joshpowell1045 You're right but I'm not even going to count the show as canon

@@theone7593 well then he'd be at war with the crown including ned.

Well that would definitely be satisfying as heck anyway. A powerful and evil man brought low and humiliated.

@@snowlion2593 true

Vanessa Amesty Not all masterpieces are kind But by god do I hate her 😂

@@TheBattProductions but that was a worthy ending at least.... we don't talk about the show ending

Yeah, fucking cool. 😎

This. Felt like all the stuff about Tommen dying and Greyjoy betrayal was just a convenient excuse for Dany to be in charge at the end without the story having to have her kill him, Margaery, and probably Olenna (ie. good people). No way the Tyrells let that happen

Golden comment Raminagrobisfr!!

Oh just you wait until the next WHAT IF video I post this Sunday....

Thank you Naila :-) I will be making more like this very soon!

Sirena Winter I wrote a comment about my opinions on this, it’s lost in the many replies but I’d appreciate it if you read it.

Jamie went through so, so much...it's bad.