*Okay this is probably one of your best stories hands down man this could literally be a divergent timeline like trunks future in the cannon there's nothing to cheesey or over the top just a very straight forward concrete timeline great work!*
Hm , Piccolo killed Frieza. I really didn't like it at first but like... How God damn poetic, the chill black alien kills the racist white tyrant that tortured kids and enslaved 'races' sounds amazing now.
that is the coolest looking piccolo ive ever seen. kinda wish this was his transformation, it looks so badass. a perfect mix of piccolos regular look with shenlong dragon.
I'll be honest, the more I'm exposed to it the more Orange Piccolo really begins to appeal to me, I definitely like Dragon-Warrior mode more but I' obviously very biased
@@PlusUltraMan the biggest thing about the orange piccolo i love is that theyre finally including him. super underrated character imo. just looking at that piccolo gives me so many ideas for what ifs that could fit that version of piccolo. it might be a bit different from canon, but thats what i love about what ifs.
Amazing just amazing beautiful story, great writing, story telling has been on point. This is very well on the same level or above callmearj, story ability as I hold that as my peak. I loved this story I hope that you make more like it 👍🏽.
This story is fantastic, and Piccolo's Dragon Warrior form is so freaking cool and FITTING I'm shocked it isn't canon! Inspiring me to work on a character.
1:49:00 - I think I can guess what inspired this one >:3 💥 👊×🖐️×✌️ 💥 😈 🍍🔥 👊 That's quite the creative technique, exploiting the elasticity of Piccolo's arms, and combining it a something that has the principle of the SBS mixed with the power of the Kaioken... Overall, this story is great, because although it's clearly about Piccolo, who is my favorite character, it leaves no characters behind - and is a testiment to not only his, potential, but also that of the Z Fighters as a group. And I appreciate details like how OP the Son family could be as farmers, the emotional development development of the characters, and recognizing Piccolo's role as a General and playmaker first and foremost - someone who uses his strength and wisdom to train, guide, and direct others, even give them a hard time, when need be. It goes to show effective the team and their allies would be if they communicated, learned from one another, and worked together properly. It make me wish the story proper had done more with these ideas. Great job!
In order for Piccolo Jr. to be born good, Goku has to kill King Piccolo very quickly before he even forms a thought so instead of launching himself through King Piccolo Goku just blasts a sudden Kamehamega and for extra reassurance Goku knocks KP unconscious seconds before he explodes
Yeah that's definately where their names come from, and also fun fact: "dabra", or "dabura" came from "abracadabra"😂😂😂 Edit: I don't really know how Dabura's name is suppose to be spell so yeah
I don't think it was possible at the time, in canon at this point Goku saw a lot nore needless death than just Krillin's and even the loss of his seeming only way to undo them but he didn't transform then even though he got pissed enough to maim Nappa, disable him permanently actually. He'd be stronger and possesing more s-cells than his canon counterpart here sure, but not to that kind of excess sadly, thays afterall why super saiyan early is an interesting concept
3:18:00 gohan transformation called super saiyan rage it's the same transformation that vegeta used vs beerus after bulma got slapped And the same transformation trunks used vs zamasu and black It's not because of god ki It's the rage of the super saiyan
I disagree heavily with the erasa and Gohan ship, based on how Saiyans work if Videl was a fighter Gohan should've been at least a little interested. Not only that I can't even imagine what those two would bond over as from what I remember Erasa was your stereotypical poplular female character, aka Likes Shopping and Gossip. Correct me if I'm wrong tho.
You're not exactly wrong so much as just arguing a pretty subjective point: #1 Gohan isn't pure saiyan, his tastes in women aren't as concretely defined as a pure saiyans, he could like that Videl is a fighter or that she's just generally smart, kind, or that she has a strong sense of justice. #2 Videl's edge is no longer there in modern day dragon ball. She's still does martial arts but thats about it and at this point everytime its mentioned its purely as a job not a passion any longer. Gohan almost never mentions enjoying martial arts purely for the sake of it so its evidenced that fighting isn't what keeps them together even if its what let the two notice one another. #3 Videl in this verse likely wouldn't even be a fighter, Hercule didn't get to coast off of credit for Cell's defeat so his championship title would likely be lost fairly quickly and Videl may lose interest in following in his footsteps so her entire personality would likely be different or at least not a carbon copy of what we know her as. #4 Erasa and current Videl aren't super different, the basic teenage girl aspecrs of the character excluded, both are just generally nice and easy to get along with. #5 Erasa showed open interest in Gohan in canon and was just willing to get to know him, in a verse where Saiyaman never exists, the world tournament and Buu doesn't offer a shared challenge for bonding, and Gohan just gets to normally go to school and finish out its mega possible for his SO by the end to be a toss up, however the girl who is mature enough not to do the whole tsundere trope with an oblivious character has better chances I'd say. #6 Its not Gohan's story, his ship wasn't all that integral to the story so if you disagree I guess you just disagree, at one point near the end I even refer to Erasa as Videl so that should tell you how much weight I placed on the relationship. It was more so just about showing this Gohan as being able to go through life with a bit more confidence and balance in his life and end up as a well adjusted adult. So if it just grinds your gears all I can really do is explain my thought process, there is no hardcore backing for one take over the other.
@@PlusUltraMan I mean, fair enough. I understand it better now, but let's be Honest Hercule probably not losing that world champion title unless one of the Z fighters enter. That man is Low key quite powerful by normal Human standards, I wouldn't be Surprised if his power level was higher than Kid Goku's and Yamacha's at the start of Dragon ball [Which was 10 I believe]. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@PlusUltraMan also what's up with that Vegeta vs Hit fight? To be clear, Hit fights by targeting vitals which simply Being stronger than normal during this encounter shouldn't directly counter-act. Unless you're saying that Vegeta is reacting faster but Vegeta doesn't start predicting Hit until after the tip from goku. I'm just curious tbh.
Actually it can be gathered from his statements that Spopovich (even before the Majin amp since otherwise Babidi could have gotten any number of people with evil in them) was likely a decent challenge, my take on Hercule without Cell is that eventually he'd be knocked off the top spot since while he is powerful, he's not outside the levels a normal earthling could reach through some diligent training, if the perception of the guy isn't that he's strong enough to take down an army destroying world ending evil super bug more will have the drive to do so, especially since he spends so much time bragging. With Vegeta, yes being stronger would help against Hit. The #1 rule of Dragon Ball is that Power always superscedes Hax. This is one of the only true consistincies we have to the point its fairly consistent across different Shonen Battle Manga. If you are overall stronger than an another character you have the ability to power through their abilities, and if you are stronger in a general sense like Vegeta is here compared to his canon counterpart you have the ability to better withstand and yes react to their ability. So yes just being a bit stronger helps Vegeta do better against Hit as described.
Even though they were all really strong against frieza it’s always a bad idea to wait around frieza would 100% find a way to quickly hav a tumpcard and either instantly blow up the planet or at the least result in what happens in cannon.
I'm well aware, and was even when the older parts of this series was made nearly 4 years ago. I only included them because #1 Its fun speculation #2 Is a fun way to more meangingfully show changes in growth from canon and #3 Is a good way to generate extra comments from people wanting to argue their head canon vs my own. You're not really telling me anything new though, but I do appreciate the concern though.
Definitely one of the best stories that are dragon ball what if. If only creators would realize Goku is the most boring what if you could do because those stories are u ubiquitous. Other side characters are way more interesting rather than rinsing and repeating predictable Goku stories.
Incorrect, I assume you're speaking in regards to Gotenks vs Caulifla and Kale, but even with the difference in SSJ and SSJ2 we know objectively from statements #1 Fusion adds extra power than just the multiplication of one fighter and another #2 Based on neither needing to be taught SSJ, getting it much earlier, and how easily they keep pace with the cast without serious training Goten and Trunks have objectively more potential and s-cells than Kale, Caulifla, or Cabba, current day Super with them being the basis form G1&2 and even able to keep up with them or as a failed form of Gotenks land the most signifcant damage on Cell Max there was from the entire team outside of G2's kamikaze and Beast Gohan's final attacks. #3 Greater skill and experince can make up for fairly marginal differences in power, from their showings Kale and Caulifla know how to fight and are def fighters, but they don't practice martial arts or have real discipline outside of natural fighting talent. Meanwhile this Goten and Trunks are different from canon in that they were concieved by a stronger Goku/Vegeta and are therefore stronger yes but also because Piccolo had cultivated their power from the begining and finally, Goten fights on par with Caulfia and Kale for only a short while before he has to power up to maintain his lead anyway. So his SSJ about equalling their SSJ2 for a short time is more than reasonable scaling all things considered, I could see it being something to mistake if one zoned out only to rengage right at that moment though Glad you enjoyed overall tho
@@PlusUltraMan oh, I didn’t notice and It’s so nice to hear Mondo cool voice piccolo Mainly because I keep thinking about the Multiverse tournament that he narrates
Mondo is definitely one of the 🐐's, I had it in my head to have him cover a finale manga since around the half way point of the story so I'm really happy to hear you enjoyed his cameo!
I called the gods, not interfering with mortals BS other universes, such as universe 11 they were well involved with their mortals well, and it made them a stronger universe
Just cause we saw Belmod hang out in a lounge with mortals doesn't translate to being well involved in the affairs of mortals, new Gods of Destruction HAVE to be trained, its an obligation of the job of angel and god we know Belmod was recruited to it at one point as well and since we've met them Whis has constantly alluded to this, but training Toppo isn't outside the perview of not interfering with mortals. Also you can't necessarily even conclude thats what made the universe so strong, that'd be a glaring confirmation bias since you can't account for very much imof what happened in the 11th to shape it to the point we first saw it.
After krillin got his potential unlocked in cannon what if the humans got their potentials unleashed and they got their own unique transformations that is an ascension of mystic like how piccolo got orange and gohan got beast what if goku who is a saiyan or at least broly got primal and he fuses with gohan combining beast with primal to have the resulting transformation be something with a name similar or exactly be Primal Beast but my question with that is how could we take power scaling into consideration with the endless possibilities with mystic if anyone else had it and get their own unique ascended forms of it like Gohan's beast and piccolo's orange that's peaked my interest somehow
Piccolo without Caokin was the level of Goku and Vegeta Super Saiyan in the original universe, we have a little weakened, but it is stronger than Vegeta, his regular condition is 41 times. Maybe Vegeta was stronger than Goku at that stage. I think that Piccolo was stronger than a normal state of Goku 43 times so it was (86% Goku level) So with Kaokin, it will be exaggerated I want to add something when arriving at the Namic planet must be stronger than Goku because he has the greater possibilities of training. He has exercised three years and has become the power of Goku Super Saiyan
How did frezia just eat that punch from kioken times 20 piccolo he should be unconscious that shot him up to 2.7million and frezia was at 530K in his first form
Actually that line is conjecture at best, it was only stated to have that kind of capability once in the dub version of History of Trunks when Gohan lost an arm, and the fact that eating one never restored Goku's tail in the Piccolo Daimou arc gives greater evidence that they don't have the power to restore missing limbs, just help with the healing of whats already there. Thats why a broken neck could be fixed but feeding a severed head a bean isn't gonna have them sprout a new body. I know this because I had this debate pretty endlessly when Part 2 first came out years ago and the person on the regrowing limbs side even conceded he was wrong after some research.
@@studious_brew2929 Cell canonically has the spirit bomb by his own admission and we see it in games all the time, even if he never used it the main story and it has nothing to do with dna either. Very few techniques have anything to do with dna and genes because most stuff is replicable by everyone unless it’s a specific trait to a species, it’s more about your knowledge and understanding of how to use your power. Cell gets his strength and versatility from the myriad of dna that make him up not his techniques that’s something he can do because he has as much information and understanding of the fighters that make him up and their powers that he can just replicate anything they did as Gero was getting data and applying it.
So I totally had a random wake and bake stoner thought that had absolutely nothing to do with this video outside the fact that is Dragon Ball related....... So here it is..... If and I mean if they ever made a real life Dragon Ball movie THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOOD, it would have to star Ken Jeong as Tao Pai Pai...... There Dragon Ball Community I have spoken, and now I shall take my leave of you. Having left you with that thought now stuck in your in your head. I don't know about you guys but I personally can't un-hear it or un-see it. It is permanently etched into my mind. Ciao!!!
I really want another live action dragon ball with terrible casting, but the trick is the acting, effects, and production value are way better than most films let alone anime adaptations. So like we get Jesse Eisenberg as Goku, but he's somehow playing a REALLY good Goku.
The consequences of this is super doesn't happen because Goku doesn't come back no ultimate Gohan no Gotenks and Beerus probably will destroy the Earth
