What If Rengoku Fought a Different Demon? (mugen train) 

Maybe atleast uh gyokko or hantengu

Atleast upper 6 and 6 and4 Nakime and 5 gyokko also third

I think rengoku would have won against upper moon 6,5 and 4

Here’s my opinion and I’m sorry that it’s so long😅 Kaigaku easily loses since he’s not that experience. Rengoku Win’s Low Diff Daki and Gyutaro would be really difficult but I think Rengoku can behead them both with his abilities, Skills, reflexes, intelligence, and Battle IQ. since Akaza only managed to get a couple hits to Rengoku and he was Upper 3 while this is Upper 6. (yes, I do know that Akaza was holding back but again that’s Upper 3 and this is Upper 6) Rengoku Win’s Mid-High Diff Gyokko would also be a really difficult, but like I said with Gyutaro and Daki I think Rengoku can defeat Gyokko because of his Skills and abilities, and Gyokko would underestimate him just like Muichiro. Even though Rengoku didn’t unlock the demon slayer mark, he still quite powerful as just a base Hashira. so Gyokko in my opinion would lose to him. Rengoku Win’s High Diff And that’s where I stop because I don’t think he can solo Hantengu, Akaza, Doma, and Kokushibo. There could be good debates that he can probably Solo Nakime. But for right now it’s safe to say in my opinion he solos Kaigaku, Daki, Gyutaro, and Gyokko.

Anyone who's not Upper Moon 3 cause that fight was close so Kaiguyaka,daki,gytuaro,Gyokko,hantengu 😂😅😅😅😊😊

He sneezes almost the whole cast

​@@ReezyPplot armour debunked him

right, captain obvious! (yeagerist for sarcasm, lmao, clown)

Tanjiro and others were still able to hold out despite being poison so he could definitely do it to

​@smokedog7333 only for a few minutes so yea rengoku will die

@@Dreamtale_Dude and in those few minutes, he will already have killed both of them

@smokedog7333 I doubt it since tengen and tanjiro just bearly managed to cut gyutaros head and zenitsu and inosuke need to cut daki's head

@@Dreamtale_Dude and Rengoku is stronger than tengen and tanjiro and them in the entertainment district arc

Open your mind, child. It's a cartoon character. Do you need me to remind you?

​@@alisalah5746 yea anime is totally for kids 💀

@@alisalah5746 Yeah “totally” anime is for kids totally not being 16+, nxdity, gore, and swear words 💀 yea “totally” for kids 💀✌🏻

@@alisalah5746 since your so much better than everyone how about you go get a job and a life?

I mean it isn't that Rengoku is weak.....pretty much all the Hashira would struggle to solo any upper moon by themselves which is why most are brought down with team effort and much costs

unless you are kokushibou

@@AbbasAlqattan true, but don't forget that he has his blood demon art, he won't be as strong without it.

They are losing theyr limbs bcs they can, if they couldn't they would be much more serious and carefull

I think they simply adapted their fighting styles in regards to that, which makes a human fending off a demon even more impressive, but still, they lose their limbs because they can.

Same can be said abot demon slayer if they did t have breathing forms they would have died 100 years ago

Well they said if it did happen

​@@get_slammedNakimethey did

It's called:"what if logic"

There’s a reason why it’s called what if 🤡🫵

@@Deity_devil my favorite comment 🤣

zenitsu was WAY above rengoku after hashira training arc though

and his blood demon art would wear rengoku down to the point where he can't fight anymore or he'll be ripped apart

He really wasn't though and he was still getting slammed by kaigaku he just landed the kill shot

@@ReezyP cap

@@Thegreatlordofall he speed blitzed kaigaku with no effort. the only way kaigaku landed hits on him is because his BDA is long ranged, and was tearing away at his skin and flesh, forcing zenitsu to slow down or his body will be teared apart. i believe rengoku could beat kaigaku if his BDA wasn't so annoying to deal with

Please dont read the manga then 😭😭😭

I won't spoil this for you but the manga's going to be a pretty grim read.

And Gyomei

Only if he lands a hit. He might land a hit on Rengoku because Flame breathing is a bit lacking on defence. Though he could make up for it using his superior speed and skills. He wouldn't land a hit on Tokito or Kanroji. They can defend well. But his surprise attack like he gave Uzui would definitely get them. So in all scenarios it's a 50-50. I also think he would have a hard time with Shinobu. She also dabbles in poisons like him and that might mean she's got some resistance or knows how to resist it's effects. Though Gyutaro wins because of the power difference plus Daki factor. All these are good matchups but the perfect one was Tengen Uzui. And Giyu would easily win. I haven't seen the others in action yet so I wouldn't know how they would win or lose against Gyutaro.

@@darrylokech292 i think giyu and kanroji would get killed by gyutaro, but otherwise nice inference

@@huhhhhhh5225 Kanroji maybe. Though her whip sword seems very good at defending attacks. But Gyutaro wins due to his intense analysis of the flow of a fight as compared to Kanroji who was fighting an upper rank recklessly had she not been told of the main body factor by Tanjiro. Gyutaro on the other hand knew his priorities and who was the threat to deal with at what point in the battle. Because of this quality, the victory would be his. But I don't see him winning against Tomioka. 11th form is just too powerful. Tomioka would solo him nicely. The only thing that would save Gyutaro is the simultaneous decapitation factor. And he has to pray that Daki won't be anywhere in Giyu's range as his own head is being cut off. I can't see Gyutaro winning against Giyu. Maybe if you could tell me how. Maybe by a surprise attack? I think his worst opponents would be Giyu and Sanemi(this is just intuition, I can't support the Sanemi argument as I haven't seen him in action yet)

​@@darrylokech292I agreed until you said Tomioka would solo because he does not and it's not even close. 11th form may be able to deflect the blood blades all it can but deflecting is the same are negating/destroying(like what Tengens bombs could do). As long as they're aren't destroyed,the blood blades will continue to follow Giyu and Gyutaro can use that to his advantage by stepping in for some nice cqc and land a bunch of fatal blows on the water pillar.

the upper moons can't be soloed gyokko was the exception

upper moons can definitely be soloed just not by Rengoku, Gyomei could probably solo everyone up to Doma, and Sanemi's breathing techniques are perfect for cutting Upper 6s heads off at the same time, @@stanleysanders9099

@@stanleysanders9099 wind and stone can beat every upper moon till akaza

He stops at akaza

Douma kills woman, Akaza doesn’t

No

​@@smokedog7333 You mean yes! Because your RenmidKu would get absolutely murdered, lmfao. Keep dreaming in your little fantasy world, kid 😂

And with Doma he will turn the ice to water then he will use water breathing style stronger because there is more water😂😂😂

Demon scientist😅😅😅

he doesnt actually produce fire so no, the breathing effects aint real

Nah, all three of them are cocky, plus Rengoku could easily kill Lowermoon 2 as a Kinoe, so Uppermoon 6 would be a challenge, but not *nearly* as much as Akaza

rengoku stops at gyutaro what are you on 💀🤠

How? Tengen even admitted that he wasn't on the same level as rengoku. Rengoku is faster and stronger than tengen. I'd say he'd win with help, of course. But by himself, he loses.

And remember the last push with tengen vs gyutaro he was actually on equal footing when he adapted to gyutaro attack where he throws slashes.

​@@eniesmellner6762 confirmed in the data books tengen is the fastest hashira and 2 nd in strength

Rengoku would mid diff gyuttaro💀💀

@@Koko-vo7mp He wouldn't. Poison + Rengoku has to figure out he has to decapitate them both at the same time = no chance. It required 1 Hashiras and 3 slayers to kill him...

rengoku is stronger than uzui so it would be different and hes also smarter so he would figure out a way to do it so rengoku would win against gyuttaro@@revolverkyosuke7049

@@revolverkyosuke7049exactly rengoku is a fodder. Fanboys are getting crazy ngl

@@revolverkyosuke7049rengoku>tengan I don’t even like either characters

​@abbasalqattan2759 it's for all uppermoons.

No Gyutaro and Daki is two demon in one. They are the same demon.

​@@BruhTNT4258no, YOU'RE wrong. They're not the "same demon" they're the same ranking because they're part of each other. Two different demons, different abilities, different Blood Demon Art, different looks, different personalities, brother and sister. Gyutaro just hide within her back. Tanjiro and Tengen both figured that Gyutaro was the main unit during their fight. Meaning he was the stronger of the two. Daki was the weaker of the two. EVERYONE acknowledge that with dialogue, Daki, Gyutaro, Tanjiro, and Tengen. I'm surprised you and the actual RU-vidr missed that. Go back and rewatch the anime and reread the subtitles. Or read the Manga.

Well,Rengoku would do actually very well against pot form Gyokko. This fact stimulates from the fact(lol) that base peak Rengoku>Muichiro in every right and he got tagged by a pot fork Gyokko who was toying and holding back. It's Gyokkos true form that Rengoku would stand no chance against I'm talking about Rengoku would get so extreme neg diffed Gyokko would question his "belief" in the hashiras being humanities last line of defense.

i mean demonslayer breathing styles aren't actually visible to anybody so idk bout that one

@@pipethegadoll1376 I can see that Gyokko would have the upper hand if he was in his final/true form, but would that battle turn into Rengoku’s favor if he awakened his Demon Slayer mark or would that not make a difference?

@jewellcleveland2226 If Rengoku got a mark he wouldn't win against Gyokko. Muichiro only won because Gyokko still held back and was acting dumb. Marked Mui is not actually above Gyokko in any way. He's not even above Gyutaro.

you're right but hantengu is stronger than gyutaro

when was it stated that Gyutaro was upper moon 4 level? theirs rankings for a reason

Tengen was stated to be pretty similar in power to Rengoku who battled akaza, and Uzui was exchanging blows equally with Gyutaro. Not to mention how muichiro took care of upper 5 gyokko like a bitch. He's clearly weaker than gyutaro

@@asnumegra8 Tengen was never stated to be close in power as Rengoku and your clearly downplaying gyokko, muichiro was fighting for his life and on the verge of death until he awakened his slayer mark which drastically changes his strength and speed he could of as easily taken care of gyutaro much faster without any difficulty and remember its a power hierachy so please stop trying to downplay gyokko

@@asnumegra8 again when was it stated that gyutaro is upper moon 4 level without daki

Stop making up that rengoku is strong even marked mitsuri (who def has way more durability due to dense muscles) had so much trouble with zohakuten

With the mark, he could hold Zohakuten. But Zenitsu, Inosuke, and Tanjiro were all wounded so they won’t do anything 💀

Rengoku is not stronger than mitsuri and tanjiro during the SSVA so he would die

base rengoku>>>>>base mitsuri

@@i_wduck7181 she needed the mark to hold him 😂

Gyomei can beat akaza aolo

@@mhdezung Without the mark? Hell no.

@@shawdits talking bout the mark

I'm glad someone mentions this. Sure, Daki and Gyutaro aren't the strongest upper moons but those siblings are NO JOKE. Like you mentioned, simultaneous decapitation is an extremely irritating nuisance that is required to kill them, especially since they don't reveal this at first. Meaning you'd lop Daki's head iff THEN discover you have to do this a SECOND time. (Wasting your energy.) Gyutaro has a strong neck and Daki has a cloth measure, meaning getting anybody's head off their shoulders is difficult in the first place. Heck, Daki had to be beheaded three times before she was actually dead. Then Gyutaro's poison? That's a whole other problem to deal with. The only reason why Tengen was even able to MOVE was because he had pre-existing resistance to poison and knew how to slow his heart. Same with Inosuke's poison resistance. Even at that, the poison still affected them both and they would have surely died if not for Nezuko. Someone without poison resistance would be quickly dead after being hit by Gyutaro (avoiding him is already difficult when he's so fast and you have to keep an eye on his sister). Their BDA'S and other abilities just bring together so many complications that make dealing with them extremely difficult. Unless you're Yoriichi, I don't see how a single slayer could do away with them. No wonder so many hashira had fallen to them both.

@@ineedausername9617 that's right. I couldn't help but celebrate their defeat because it was a one in a million chance of victory pulled off. The stars aligned very well for the Demon slayers on that day. Even though Gyutaro alone was strong enough to handle them all alone, the simultaneous decapitation factor must have made it impossible for the Hashiras who went solo on him previously. Even if they managed to cut off his head(because Gyutaro was still a weaker version of himself, say when he hadn't joined the upper moons yet or when he was just joining). And like Gyutaro and Daki said, they've always had long nights in their favour. Unlike Hantengu and Akaza who had the sun come up on them, the situation of the Gyutaro and Daki was rigged by them such that their fights always began early in the night just after dusk. So they didn't face much pressure allowing them to have calm heads as their plans rolled into place. Then their attitudes aren't playful like Gyokko's. They mean business from the start. In fact the mistake on their side that led to their defeat was because Gyutaro chose to ignore a wriggling Zenitsu and decided to dialogue with Tanjiro because he thought that he had won already. Making that compromise to torment and torture Tanjiro was his problem on that day. I bet his demon nature kicked in so he could have fun at someone else's prolonged misery. Otherwise had he dealt with them all as brutally as he did in the beginning, nothing could have stopped his victory. That was his only mistake. He stopped being deadly(attitude switched from instant killing to prolonged torture) for just a moment and that spelled his doom.

I agree makes no sense he could have stalled all upper Moons except the top 3 that's very obvious

Hantengu is way more dangerous than Akaza and i think he is stronger than Akaza but his main form is coward thats why is he afraid to fight for higher rank

@@conexxmid63no Akaza is way stronger then hantengu bro😂

@@Trone-kq7tm I ain't your bro

@@conexxmid63 Shut your corny ass up 😂

Fr what is this dude saying

I think too

Hé also eats m'en. He Just enjoy women more. It is his favorite food

Gyokko negs him

@@psyhop1195cap

@@Richard.Goff62 gyokko negs every hashira (except gyomei or sanemi maybe) without mark

Muichiro needed the Demon Slayer Mark to defeat Gyokko. Rengoku wouldn't have access to it.

Muichiro is stronger than rengoku tho lmao

He literally can't 💀 Marked muichiro>>>> Rengoku 💀💀

​@@Deity_devilnah at the time of rengokus death he was way stronger than everyone except gyomei and maybe sanemi

@@greybo4034real

Not even remotely accurate or true. Rengoku never scaled or matched Akaza for anything. Don't mistake Rengoku fighting his life/giving it his all and Akaza casually countering him; for Rengoku "keeping up". He would never win against Gyutaro due to Tengen being the significantly stronger hashira and he couldn't even beat UM 6. If I had to place the Akaza that Rengoku canonically fought,I'd say Akaza scales somewhere below Gyutaro but above Rengoku. Either that OR the Akaza we see is actually the true extent of Gyutaros(2 eyes) full power therefore meaning Rengoku would require something like a mark just to actually fight UM 6. Either way is very consistent.

@@pipethegadoll1376wrong

@@dontawilliams8433 I'm right in every way lol.

that scaling is off due to the fact Akaza was toying with Kyojuro and wasnt going serious against him, Kyojuro gets low diffed by Gyutaro, Tengen is officially faster and stronger than Kyojuro, and even he was getting outpaced by Gyutaro, Kyojuro is gonna struggle to keep up against both Gyutaro and Daki, the moment he gets hit, its over.

@@fbi9833 Rengoku is not getting hit by the two of them. Tengen is a straight up perception blitz over Daki if she’s not backed by Gyutaro, and it’s outright confirmed due to not only Tengen’s internal monologue but also a comparison between their feats that Rengoku > Tengen. The “race” and “arm wrestling contest” are completely arbitrary and should not be taken into consideration at all with scaling. I’ll admit I did overhype Rengoku by saying Akaza was trying throughout the fight. He clearly wasn’t and was actively attempting to goad Rengoku into becoming a demon, only trying when Rengoku had him in a deadlock and would have been killed by the sun if he hadn’t escaped. That being said, proportionately, he is STILL far more skilled and faster than Tengen in terms of combat speed. Tengen may take running speed, but was incapable of blocking Gyutaro’s strike completely when his speed blitz was countered, thus putting Rengoku’s combat speed over Tengen’s. Akaza, even while treating the fight as a game, is not only still superior to the combined might of Gyutaro and Daki, but also superior to Gyokko as well based on their comparative feats. Muichiro, while marked, was easily able to overwhelm and toy with Gyokko. I do believe that Rengoku would be able to defeat Gyokko handily due to being able to withstand Akaza’s flurries, even if he wasn’t going all out. That being said, I don’t see Rengoku beating Hantengu. While I think he could deal with the lesser clones, the moment Zohakuten comes out, it’s wraps for our boy. He’s gonna get tired out and ultimately overwhelmed, leading to his death. That being said, though: Toying Akaza >= Zohakuten > Rengoku > Gyokko > Gyutaro + Daki > Gyutaro > Tengen > Daki

WTF dym by that

🤣🤣🤣

Why 😂

Ok

Who asked😊

Na he beats Gyokko

@@Bumpywithadumpyno he can’t lmao he doesn’t have ds mark

@@Deity_devil Don’t need it tbh

​@@Bumpywithadumpyrengoku is weaker than muichuiro

@@JeevanSuresh-ci4sw Marked yes unmarked no. Also him being weaker than marked mui doesn't mean he can't beat gyokko?

Which one?

no bro. Sanemi is stronger and faster than rengoku in base form so. If sanemi got all this then sanemi would as great as gyomei.

​@@hazardEXE27 well that was 2 years after rengokus death.. by that time rengoku would have gone through hashira training+ as akaza mentioned his skills would peak after 2 years.. so that means rengokus prime would be when the final battle takes place.. the only advantage sanemi have over rengoku is that he is a marechi

@@greybo4034 here is some official fanbook info for you clearification: In unmarked state Sanemi is the 2nd fastest hashira .So with mark Sanemi is the fastest hashira......(Note Here its speed without breathing technique.So with breathing sanemi next level fast).. Whereas Rengoku is 5th fastest in unmarked state......See the different... Also there are few condition to awaken the mark ..So even if Rengoku train 5 years then also he can't awaken mark because centain condition is required.. Also was not trying hard in megun train battle..... Akaza can easily kill rengoku in secs in that fight but he choose not to.. So read manga, Fanbook and data book before saying any comments...

You're right to an extent. Rengoku would get bodied by Gyutaro but he can fight pot form Gyokko.

Koku Annihilates every one of them lol.

EXACTLY.

That bubble stops you breathing , strength has nothing to do here

A water breather could beat the bubble with 6th form. And without getting back outside help unless they were caught immediately after exhaling all their breath. And I'm talking about Mizunoto Tanjiro, not even an exceptional water Hashira like Giyu

​@@darrylokech292Not really, Gyokko's aquatic prison is designed to withstand both the outside and the inside. Tokito used a breath before getting help and couldn't break it. That detail is what makes that trap deadly, if you still have air in your lungs and you use it, the prison does not break and you die of asphyxiation.

goku, gyutard and donkey. nice named

these names have me laughing goku donkey and gyutard

goku would end demon slayer low diff wdym

@@huhhhhhh5225 I'm talking about Rengoku, not Goku Goku.

@animatorchartconcept Don’t laugh dude, probably got trolled by auto correct

Youre crazy, he was only holding off akaza because akaza was toying with him, he would have been speed blitzed if akaza was serious, fanbooks put him at the middle of the hashira at base

fr the thumbnail is next level glazing

Fr

Nahh you gotta be kidding me💀💀 Remember Gyutaro has poison in his sickles, and can manipulate them, one slice and Rengoku’s done (Tengen survived because he was resistant to poison as he stated)

Maybe. I'd say 5th form could deal with it and if not then definitely 9th would evaporate that water into nothing. I really only see 10,000 assassin fish being the problem because not only is it such a big and wide ranged attack but they spread poison of which according to Gyokko; only has to LAND on someone and the fight would be over. This means Gyokkos poison>=Gyutaros. Personally and since Gyokko is my fav UM and since he does canoncially out rank Gyutaro,I say his poison is significantly more dangerous.

gyokko yes, hantengu no, without knowing Hantengus bda, hes beyond difficult, Kyojuro would spend the night fighting the clones rather than finding the main body