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What If The Ninth Doctor Didn't Regenerate? 

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Everyone remembers the dramatic ending of Doctor Who Series 1, where the Ninth Doctor regenerated in Parting of the Ways. However, what if this never happened? What if Christopher Eccleston never left the show and continued into Series 2 alongside Rose Tyler? These are the questions I'm tackling in today's video!
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@HarboWholmes
@HarboWholmes 7 месяцев назад
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@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 7 месяцев назад
One of my favorite "what ifs" honestly. 9 really deserved another series cuz a lot more could've been explored about his loneliness with the way Eccleston portrayed him.
@SaturnUmbreon
@SaturnUmbreon 4 месяца назад
I doubt Eccleston would want to, but with Big Finish doing a "First Doctor Unbound" series next year, there is a chance we could see them explore this path. I would love it if they did, and get Eccleston and Piper back working together for a series of possibilities...
@oneautumnleaff2119
@oneautumnleaff2119 4 месяца назад
he was my favorite and it wasnt even close
@daedalus6433
@daedalus6433 6 дней назад
@@SaturnUmbreon He did say that he would consider coming back if everyone involved in the mess that was the production of Series 1 is gone. So that means if Bad Wolf gets axed. Sounds like a good proposition to me imo.
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o 7 месяцев назад
2:12 I read somewhere that, had Eccleston stayed, Jack would've survived and stayed a companion and series 2 would have him trying to find out what happened during his time at the Time Agency, the two years wiped from his memory.
@carsforever4002
@carsforever4002 7 месяцев назад
Wow nice info, was Rose still a part of the original series 2 plan? I heard she was kept to be a bridge between the two series since the Doctor was now different
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o 7 месяцев назад
@@carsforever4002 good question. 🤔 Perhaps the Doctor Who wiki knows or some other website…?
@carsforever4002
@carsforever4002 7 месяцев назад
@@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o Yeah I’ll definitely have to look that up but I’m really glad we had Rose for both series 🙌
@Comicbroe405
@Comicbroe405 7 месяцев назад
Unrelated but does that get explained in Torchwood?
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o 7 месяцев назад
@@Comicbroe405 I don't think it is but then again, I haven't seen all of Torchwood for quite some time.
@Valtharr
@Valtharr 7 месяцев назад
woo! now I can put "my question inspired a Harbo Wholmes video" on my resume!
@hernerwerzog9700
@hernerwerzog9700 7 месяцев назад
You bow to no one
@Jayforeman3047
@Jayforeman3047 7 месяцев назад
This made me beam 😊
@williamriley6884
@williamriley6884 7 месяцев назад
Credit where it's due for really deviating from the initial story over just 'S2 but with Eccleston'. But that said, I can't help there's a big misread of 9 and his character. After his 'everybody lives' moment he's very clearly a changed, more optimistic man as seen in Boom Town. He's almost 9.5. And similarly Jackie likes the doctor not because he's 10 and friendlier but because he sent Rose back - as she says in Parting of the Ways. This script really seems to make him too much of an edgy psycho corrupting those around him and ignores how much healing he did in S1 + how he typically inspired those around him to be better.
@HarboWholmes
@HarboWholmes 7 месяцев назад
That's fair! I did initially want to clarify throughout the video that he'd still be a much lighter 9, but I guess it just got lost in the writing process and I ended up emphasizing the dark side too much
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
@@HarboWholmes As I say in a crazy long comment, I think Ten is the darker of the two.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 7 месяцев назад
​@@HuntingVioletsPlease, the Eleventh Doctor is the Time Champion in the New Series.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
@@mayotango1317 I'm not sure what that has to do with my comparing two other Doctors, but I'll bite. Who is killing the Eleventh Doctor?
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 7 месяцев назад
@@HuntingViolets ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iOFe9UvZ0Xw.htmlsi=SubldRkOUGgVd92L
@Julios_47
@Julios_47 7 месяцев назад
My fan favorite "What If" moment would be with the 12th Doctor meeting Donna Noble in the 60 specials lmao, that would be an epic argument
@StefanFlyer
@StefanFlyer 7 месяцев назад
Especially since wiping memory is part of his arc and he learns that is a terrible solution himself so didn't do this to Bill.
@sp7318
@sp7318 7 месяцев назад
Hot take: Out of the two RTD Doctors, I think 9 is better than 10. As good as Tennant was, Eccleston seriously deserves more screen time out of any other Doctor along with McGann since I feel he left too early! It was understandable as to why, but still. You really click with him once Series 1 concludes, and as such he cozily puts himself up there as my 2nd favorite incarnation right behind the 11th.
@josephskinner4852
@josephskinner4852 7 месяцев назад
Having the Master die in 9s hands would be PHENOMENAL. Perhaps after an arc where he comes to terms over the time war, The Master’s death pushes him over the edge and he abandons their companion to do a few solo episodes. In that time he can learn that companionship is in fact what he needs. And he returns to his old friends one by one, checking in to see how they’re doing. Upon meeting Donna again, she is excited and tells him about the adipose, leading into the meat of the next season
@BobPsomiadis
@BobPsomiadis 7 месяцев назад
If No9 stayed for at least 3 series ,he would have consolidated his position as the greatest doctor of them all .Instead, he is badly underappreciated and, at one stage, almost forgotten .
@jamestorrie6550
@jamestorrie6550 7 месяцев назад
If it was eccleston in school reunion then he'd definitely be a woodwork teacher
@Rocketpigs
@Rocketpigs 7 месяцев назад
This is fantastic. The only downside, there's no Donna Noble yet - those two would ascend together!
@sanddagger36
@sanddagger36 7 месяцев назад
I'm sure Christopher and Catherine Tate would have a wonderful dynamic. They could even have her appear in the "runaway bride" while Martha is still a companion. Then she is the one who gets stuck in the Tardis and whisked away to the geneses planet in "the doctor's daughter" At that part Martha may choose to stay there with the Hath to help them rebuild. Maybe when Jennie dies, the doctor will not just let it go because Rose just died. So he works hard to make her regenerate and she becomes a new companion after that. Then split all the light-hearten episodes like "Unicorn and Wasp" from ones like "midnight." Donna would only be present for the first half of what would be series 3, before going home and leaving 9 and Jennie to have all the serious adventures like "silence in the library." However, once River Song dies, Jennie will become obsessed with finding out who she was and when the doctor refuses because of spoilers, she takes the square gun and the vortex manipulator and runs off on her own adventures in time. This leaves the doctor alone again for an episode "Midnight" until Kate Stewart calls him back to Earth for the "The Sontaran Stratagem" With no one else on earth he cares about, he calls Sarah Jane and Donna Noble to make sure they are safe when the sky gets poisoned. Neither one plays all that big of a role in the solution, but right afterward Donna collapses with apparent memories of "Turn Left" just appearing in her mind. They rush into the Tardis and the Earth disappears beneath them. In "the stolen Earth" the emotional reunion at the end is with Martha and not Rose. She has been recruited by the Shadow Proclamation because she is officially the last human in the galaxy because Earth disappearing in 2008 means that no human colonies ever went out into the stars. Again the doctor gets shot but he shrugs it off. Then he resolves the reality bomb in a similar way because Donna uses her second brain from "Turn Left" to learn the Dalek controls and kill them all. They fly the Earth home and The doctor erases Donna's memories of "Turn Left" and then goes outside to talk to Wilf to give him instructions on what not to do around Donna. There Wilf sees him collapse and regenerate due to the effects of the Dalek shot he was still suffering from. This leaves the specials to be either David Tenant's or Matt Smith's, whoever you prefer.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
@@sanddagger36 The worst thing about Jenny being with a different Doctor would be David Tennant not meeting Georgia, but I'm going to assume they would have met anyway. :)
@wordart_guian
@wordart_guian 7 месяцев назад
I feel like series 4 at least needed to be tenant, because tenant and tate are irl friends (and already were pre-dw) which is why they were so good together
@unamoonstar
@unamoonstar 7 месяцев назад
@@wordart_guian Actually, David and Catherine knew *of* each other prior to working together on Doctor Who, but had never met before The Runaway Bride. And they didn't even get to meet at the read-through - Catherine couldn't make it to that for whatever reason - so they met on set when they filmed the rooftop scene, then quickly became very good friends irl. They've both talked about that in interviews. However, I completely agree Ten would have to be there for a season four with Donna! And if Donna met Nine first, it could be really interesting to see her reaction to a different version of the Doctor...
@sanddagger36
@sanddagger36 7 месяцев назад
@@HuntingViolets Peter and David actually met during episode 1 of "The Mrs Bradley Mysteries" and Peter came to see David on his first day on set of Doctor Who. They have been good friends for longer than Doctor Who. I'm sure Georgia and David would've met at some point.
@thatotherted3555
@thatotherted3555 7 месяцев назад
Your extension of Rose's recklessness arc reminds me very much of Clara's recklessness arc with 12.
@elliotjohnston1283
@elliotjohnston1283 7 месяцев назад
That’s what I immediately thought as well
@ontos8914
@ontos8914 7 месяцев назад
That’s literally all this is he just made 9 into 12
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
I actually think the Tenth Doctor is darker than the Ninth Doctor. They both like to goof around and have adventures; is Ten really any happier? And Rose and Ten making a mockery of the situation in "Tooth and Claw" is much darker than taking it seriously. That is what led Queen Victoria setting up Torchwood originally. Rose is a dark character in Series 2 because the Tenth Doctor enables that, while the Ninth Doctor and Rose acted as brakes against each other's worst tendencies ("Father's Day," "Dalek"). (Rose's later use of the dimension cannon can be seen as dark and Ten's burning up a sun to say goodbye--although there can also be more benign explanations.) I'm surprised you don't find Eccleston's Doctor to be "wisecracking and charismatic" because I absolutely do. I think a relationship between Nine and Reinette makes more sense than with Ten, actually, because we are constantly shown Ten and Rose being infatuated with each other, while Nine falling for someone else doesn't seem as if the Doctor is being taken over by an AU version for a single episode. Although I certainly think there is a flirtatious aspect and some romantic subtext in the first season, Nine could easily have gotten involved with Jabe, for instance, without Rose minding that much, and Rose was interested in at least three other men, including being willing to spend the night in a hotel with Mickey. The idea of Mickey and Reinette is certainly interesting, though, and I probably would have preferred something like that for the Tenth Doctor (for reasons I have already expressed). I think you could still do "Christmas Invasion" because Nine could need to recover from taking the energy from Rose in (a retitled) "Parting of the Ways." Maybe things could have gone better for Harriet Jones. The Tenth Doctor disposes of Britain's Golden Age without much thought. Why couldn't we still have a swordfight? I'm certainly down with getting a Metacrisis Nine. :)
@pundahandz7403
@pundahandz7403 7 месяцев назад
These Eccelston thumbnails for the episodes are top notch. Really wish we could see this What If series now
@stevenappleman3440
@stevenappleman3440 7 месяцев назад
Man would have loved to see Eccleston get at least 1 more series. He's still My favorite doctor. Great video!
@batlord7690
@batlord7690 7 месяцев назад
This was a very interesting deviation from the original plotline, but I really liked it. The choices you made, I found to be very in-character for the Ninth Doctor and the decisions in the episodes expressed his story arc in a deeply engaging way. I'd love to see this continue and if possible see Nine meet Donna, she'd constantly be slapping him around as he'd probably pout about it.
@lukemiles04
@lukemiles04 7 месяцев назад
Would absolutely love another one of these style of what if videos
@alexkoch3712
@alexkoch3712 7 месяцев назад
I easily agree with everything here except of course the final thing. You should do an "If Peter Capaldi stayed for Series 11" one too 🙏
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o 7 месяцев назад
Wow! I wish this what if had actually happened! That sounds like a great series! Also, I always wanted a Nine/Martha TARDIS team! One of the fictional teams I'd love to travel with!
@leecarroll4622
@leecarroll4622 6 месяцев назад
I wish we had have got this s2 instead. It sounds so much better.
@MAXXWORX
@MAXXWORX 3 месяца назад
You did a good job with the stories. Would be cool to have seen them not only in my mind while listening.
@SmashBrosAssemble
@SmashBrosAssemble 19 дней назад
Honestly I’m happy Eccleston left after Series 1, because A) we got David Tennant in the role who I love as the Doctor & B) I do like that Eccleston is a one term wonder, he did one season & it ended up being the best season in the history of Doctor Who.
@philippedp9909
@philippedp9909 7 месяцев назад
pls pls pls continue this series
@yumithehunter6292
@yumithehunter6292 7 месяцев назад
I think not much would change other than the doctors personality. But I’m kinda only thinking that he would leave with rose and have a 2 season run
@ontos8914
@ontos8914 7 месяцев назад
“They would be more platonic” that’s just missing the 9th doctor’s character
@f-zilla7347
@f-zilla7347 7 месяцев назад
If you do a Series 3 version, then you ought to do a realistic Series 4-6 with a different Tenth Doctor.
@Jayforeman3047
@Jayforeman3047 7 месяцев назад
15:15 If Nine and Martha wore these similar outfits it would be a lovely lil' subtle callback to when Four and Romana wore similar outfits in Destiny of the Daleks. I love the episode outfits you picked for Martha, by the way.
@christallaktorides6904
@christallaktorides6904 6 месяцев назад
You made Rose and The Doctor into Clara and The Doctor. You turned them into villains that could never be. The Doctor had his moments but he realised he had gone too far and stopped. The Doctor and companions are more complicated
@dougsfilmtv9810
@dougsfilmtv9810 7 месяцев назад
That was a great video! I could see School Reunion being different and seeing the 9th Doctor and Sarah Jane together would be interesting. I would love to see you do a Series 3.
@Enjay001
@Enjay001 3 месяца назад
A reasonable set of "what if" conclusions and theories. All I know is that I was gutted that Christopher Eccleston only did one series. Eccleston is a brilliant actor and has been one of my favourites for a very long time (since he started to come to prominence in the early 90s I guess). I thought his interpretation of the Doctor was fantastic (ahem). For me, there was no settling in period; he was the Doctor instantly. I was absolutely glued to the screen whenever he was on, totally commanding it and the role. I believed the PTSD, war-damaged Doctor completely and the redemption path that he was on. The moments of rage (e.g. meeting the Dalek in the episode of that name) or the sprks of hope that things mught just work out sometimes (e.g. when he was willing the nanogenes to figure things out and allow "eveyone [to] live, just this once" in The Doctor Dances - honestly, The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances is probably still my favourite new era story). And that's not to dump on anyone who has followed him. The quality of actors who have taken the role since the show's resurrection is stellar. I just wanted more Christopher Eccleston than we got.
@matthewteague623
@matthewteague623 3 месяца назад
As much as I loved Eccleston's portrayal of the Doctor.... I'm not sure I could have seen him pull off the meeting with Sarah Jane Smith with the same kind of giddy excitement that Tennant had. And that worked so well, I'm kind of glad things worked out as they did. Liz Sladen only had just so many years as that point.
@Paragon13
@Paragon13 4 месяца назад
I would’ve loved to see the 9th Doctor’s reaction to Micky activating the Genesis Ark.
@rupertroberto
@rupertroberto 7 месяцев назад
Jesus, I never realised she was 19 in Rose. Really puts their relationship in a bit of a worse light.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 7 месяцев назад
It pales into insignificance compared to Susan getting into a relationship with David Campbell when she was just over 16!
@novagray4143
@novagray4143 7 месяцев назад
​@@ftumschkand then her grandfather abandoning her with him even though they've barely met
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 7 месяцев назад
​@@ftumschkSusan had more that 16 years old.
@ses694
@ses694 7 месяцев назад
@@mayotango1317In the serial "Marco Polo" she states that she is 16 years old, and also has an interesting relationship with the 16 year old princess she shared a bed with
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 7 месяцев назад
@@ses694 Please, she is a Time Lady. Maybe she had 160 years old.
@evelynstarshine8561
@evelynstarshine8561 7 месяцев назад
What about a, What if NewWho had McGann's eight ala Big Finish instead of Eccleston's 9?
@justynmatlock8873
@justynmatlock8873 7 месяцев назад
The 'Bad Wolf Entity' makes nonsense of The Time War. Why idn't the Time Lords just do what Rose did and destroy the Daleks that way, without their own mutual destruction ? It might have cost one Time Lord one regeneration, but surely that would be a worth-while sacrifice ?
@adambarnes49
@adambarnes49 22 дня назад
Always found it interesting that rose absorbs the time vortex and then the doctor saves her and rose is completely fine afterwards (yes I know it would have killed her eventually if the doctor hadn't done something) but when the doctor absorbs it and then releases into the tardis even though he only had it for a few seconds it still causes enough damage to force him to regenerate
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 7 месяцев назад
Honestly the Ninth Doctor would remind Sarah Jane a lot of her Doctor, the Hinchcliffe Fourth Doctor. Both are very similar.
@bjgandalf69
@bjgandalf69 7 месяцев назад
I think you really did a good job of trying to incorporate the existing storylines and companion changes to make the thru line work with the 9th Doctor staying. I'm not sure using the elements you had to incorporate you could have done a better job. Bravo!
@Jesse-gx7mn
@Jesse-gx7mn 3 месяца назад
Eccleston is the "What If" of the entire Doctor Who Universe...Truly!
@theauthor1238
@theauthor1238 7 месяцев назад
Quite an insightful alternative to the series 2 we ended up getting. With that in mind, however, I don't think I agree with Martha's ark in comparison to what we see in series 3. Despite her unfair treatment, it sets a purpose to not only the Doctor's flawed mindset on Rose, but it also challenges them both with their diametrically opposed perspectives. As for Mickey, I do feel that he needed someone to get over Rose - and with a strong soul like Madam Pe Dompidor, (I no doubt butchered the correct spelling xD) it certainly gives the story a plot device to move things forward.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
de Pompadour
@ses694
@ses694 7 месяцев назад
Not sure it would work tbh, I think she liked the doctor for his intelligence and rizz whereas Mickey is more of an everyman character
@skinner219
@skinner219 7 месяцев назад
Oh I have got one idea for you Harbo. What if the Doctor was in Children of Earth?
@DoctorRayman
@DoctorRayman 7 месяцев назад
I have spent a lot of time thinking about this, so it's nice to see I'm not alone. Really enjoyed this video and all of the beats make sense and most of the changes are probably better than what we actually got! Well, aside from the return of the Bad Wolf, but I get why you did you and it does make sense from a narrative point of view if not a dramatic one. Haven't looked to see if you ever did the S3 vid, but to be honest this would completely change the trajectory of the entire show, not just for the RTD era but we'd still be seeing the fallout of this change today. So this could easily turn into a full series chronicling how everything would have changed up to Series 14. I'd be here for it anyway :D
@Lowehart
@Lowehart 7 месяцев назад
I feel like in the school episode with Sarah Jane, Nine wouldn't have replaced K-9 after the heroic sacrifice. He was a little colder, a little darker, and I feel that his way of seeing some loss as simply collateral would mean he wouldn't gift a new model. This could leave room for him to have cameoed after season 2 here, when he is healing, to bring that model to her. I would love to see season 3 done, as I'm quite curious how you think the Titanic episode would have gone, given it once again has a romance subplot.
@theawesome925
@theawesome925 7 месяцев назад
This alternative path feels much more like Classic DW, and I really like that. 👍
@Redboots
@Redboots 7 месяцев назад
this was such a fascinating dive into an alternate scenario! in regards to your comment about it feeling 'fanfiction-y', at this point writing anything for dr who would feel like writing fanfiction, imo. it's in a unique position amongst television, only joined by things like star trek or other very long-running television programmes, as there's more similarities between a fanfiction and the actual stories due to the constant evolution and continuation by fresh writers of the programmes. I could be wrong, of course, and if I manage to find out I'll probably update with that knowledge lol
@theIrishGandalf
@theIrishGandalf 7 месяцев назад
Carry on with this series Harbo, love "what if's" about Eccleston and the dark side we could've seen.
@SteveCowlishaw
@SteveCowlishaw 7 месяцев назад
I like the twist, but I sorta reckon they would've most likely kept to the same episode order, just with a little bit of jiggery-pokery and obviously the ways the doctor acts. Piper may have stayed on with Eccleston, he might've convinced her to stay maybe, who knows. It's a little like how Tennant may have stuck around for the season with Moffat, Moffat explained that the very first episode would be the 10th Doctor moments away from death as the raggedy man
@PstrywBerryVids
@PstrywBerryVids 7 месяцев назад
I like hypotheticals like this and I think it should become a series. What if 9 was in S3. What if 10 had to deal with the Pandorica. How would 11 fare in Heaven Sent.
@duvall5jd
@duvall5jd 5 месяцев назад
It sounded like such a fun series 2. A third series would be so exciting.
@Samviking01
@Samviking01 7 месяцев назад
Man Harbo needs to be showrunner now. loving every single plot twist 😅
@connectionlost1063
@connectionlost1063 7 месяцев назад
Haven’t watched yet but I fully believe it was the perfect choice to place a regeneration in that first season of the reboot, it brought attention to a big part of what makes doctor who so different from other sci fi to any first time viewers like myself and that eccleston season was such a great example of peak doctor who having it where it was just made so much sense
@blakesheldon3167
@blakesheldon3167 7 месяцев назад
Please do a series 3
@peterratter6603
@peterratter6603 3 месяца назад
I'm late to the party, but thank you for sharing - that was cool!
@funbricks1
@funbricks1 7 месяцев назад
I like when people give Mickey cool things to do. Mickey is not Noel Clarke.
@neorocket95
@neorocket95 7 месяцев назад
I genuinely think narratively having 9 regenerate at the end of the first season is really good as someone who came into the series with series 1
@TheCaretakerrr
@TheCaretakerrr 7 месяцев назад
what if christopher eccleston regenerated into matt smith
@jonathanlee2995
@jonathanlee2995 3 месяца назад
Imagine if he stayed for four seasons and meets Donna
@AnythingMachine
@AnythingMachine 7 месяцев назад
I would give my soul to see the 9th doctor vs the War Master (Derek Jacobi)
@brettjohnson536
@brettjohnson536 6 месяцев назад
I would pay so much money to see a parellel universe where Chris never left and we got something like this, hahaha
@songsayswhat
@songsayswhat 7 месяцев назад
9 is my favorite doctor. I really felt he showed the trauma of the Time War. I wish he had stuck around longer. Still don't understand why Donna couldn't have been saved the same way Rose was.
@psych0536
@psych0536 7 месяцев назад
oh I'd love a continuation of this video. Ninth doctor in s3 and maybe even a video of if the 10th doctors first series was s4
@victorpeterson3502
@victorpeterson3502 7 месяцев назад
this makes me wish that Big Finish would make this into an audio series!
@Spider8Crak
@Spider8Crak 7 месяцев назад
You're writing 9 in series 2 like 9 from series 1 instead of what 9 would've been like in a 2nd series. I believe while he would definitely still hurt from the Time War he would still act like 10 a lot more than you're insinuating. Remember, Same man, Different face.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
This was very interesting. I guess Martha Jones doesn't exist in the usual universe or is the person working at Canary Wharf instead of her cousin, Adeola (since Martha has already been working with the Ninth Doctor now prior to that episode)?
@ghostyosty1619
@ghostyosty1619 7 месяцев назад
The problem with Series 2 is, it clearly wasn't made for David Tennants Doctor, it felt it was more scripted for Christopher Ecclstons Doctor.
@MrAlman8
@MrAlman8 7 месяцев назад
While I do understand the variables in making this kind of What If? Some of the stuff did come off as an edgy watt pad fan fic. Like the 9th doctor did have campy moments, he was capable of humor. That said, it was worth exploring, & I can definitely imagine the 9th doctor being in S2. If I had the time, I'd like to make my own What If? 9th didn't regenerate video. It would be more in universe & more logistical. Anyway, that is my comment on the matter.
@ShawnsLegacy
@ShawnsLegacy 7 месяцев назад
I would really be curious about how you think 9 and the master would interact with one another, seeing as the master's whole dynamic with 10 was that he was a more manic youthful version of the master to contrast 10's energetic and wide eyed personality. Maybe you'd have the master not regenerate at all and keep the old and bitter Yana version of him? Once again, very curious. I hope you decide to continue!
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
God, I have always wished Jacobi could have had a longer run as the Master. Thank you!
@ShawnsLegacy
@ShawnsLegacy 7 месяцев назад
@HuntingViolets I agree, his portrayal of the master was so sinister. And yet, at the same time, there was some strange sense of elegance to him. Like he had somehow earned his arrogance. He definitely would've played off 9 quite nicely
@joringedamke5597
@joringedamke5597 7 месяцев назад
I don't really know why Eccleston left, though he's one of my favorites. But I assume his abrupt departure is why they kept the Tardis interior the same?
@marionbaggins
@marionbaggins 6 месяцев назад
And Sonic and Titles Screen.
@leebiggs7755
@leebiggs7755 Месяц назад
I would really like you to do Christopher eccleston staying for series 3 please😊
@djfrozen4534
@djfrozen4534 4 дня назад
This sounds like something i would watch
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o 7 месяцев назад
I would albsolutely love a series 3 version! 😀
@Jayforeman3047
@Jayforeman3047 7 месяцев назад
I absolutely LOVE it when you re-order a series, however (and this is only from a technicality standpoint) I think they wouldn't have had 2 stories set purely in a hospital in the same series. Apart from that petty reason I'd love to see this actualised as a proper series. Maybe one day on a parallel Earth, eh?
@lmackenzie89
@lmackenzie89 2 месяца назад
9 and Martha is such a good combo!
@PaulRichards-vz4pl
@PaulRichards-vz4pl 7 месяцев назад
You can be sure we’d have got a better performance from Christopher Eccleston as he wasn’t keen on making the Doctor too humorous and OTT like Tennant. Being an older Doctor alongside Rose it felt more like a teacher/Student relationship rather than the awful hints of romance between Rose and 10. Christopher Eccleston had a stern quality similar to the first Doctor at times and which was built upon more with Peter Capaldi’s wonderful Doctor. This has been a fascinating wonderful video. Oh.. if only Christopher Eccleston had stayed.
@louiseaves484
@louiseaves484 7 месяцев назад
Yes please let’s go for another series
@Gent82
@Gent82 7 месяцев назад
Good speculative video. I'd wondered about this myself.
@DTT240991
@DTT240991 7 месяцев назад
To be honest, I think that works. Don’t think it’s too Fan Ficcy at all. And Martha wouldn’t have been overshadowed at all. Just as Donna wasn’t when in S4 when Martha returned.
@justinfenner869
@justinfenner869 7 месяцев назад
I still wonder why he didn’t return when Steven Moffat had been in charge
@adisassy4579
@adisassy4579 7 месяцев назад
I think some of the producers he had a problem with were still around. He said he would've been in the special if a certain director had taken part but Moffat said no as it was probably too late to change. I'm still very annoyed that McGann wasn't the War Doctor after Eccleston said no. He would've been the perfect bridge between old and new.
@anthony3557
@anthony3557 7 месяцев назад
I was never particularly taken with Ten’s romantic shenanigans, so it’s lovely to see Rose and Martha get more character development now they’re not mooning over the Doctor - to say nothing of the dramatic chops Eccleston would have brought to this. Yes, your Series 2 finale is a bit fanficcy, but so was Davies’ original!
@lucyairapetian407
@lucyairapetian407 7 месяцев назад
I swear to god I saw this video come out yesterday
@talesyuki
@talesyuki 7 месяцев назад
So cool!!! Please do a part 2!!! xD
@OverWims
@OverWims 7 месяцев назад
So when the Doctor and parallel Martha are on the moon, is normal Martha there too?
@topmandog1
@topmandog1 7 месяцев назад
good question
@PercyandDuckfan94
@PercyandDuckfan94 7 месяцев назад
Harbo already mentioned at the end that normal Martha would've been the one at Torchwood as a victim of the Cybermen in place of the cousin in the final version.
@ses694
@ses694 7 месяцев назад
I thought that was because it was her cousin (also played by Freema) working for torchwood who died during army of ghosts?
@OverWims
@OverWims 7 месяцев назад
@@PercyandDuckfan94 but why? The doctor bringing parallel Martha to the normal world should not make normal Martha not be at the hospital or be at Torchwood. They're 2 completely unrelated things.
@PercyandDuckfan94
@PercyandDuckfan94 7 месяцев назад
@@ses694 In the final, yes. But in Harbo's take of S2, the cousin would've been that Martha.
@livinghomunculus657
@livinghomunculus657 4 месяца назад
Didn't RTD intend for the 9th doctor to still have a romantic relationship with rose in series 2 which Ecclestone disagreed with? I think series 2 would have gone down nearly the same aside for the first two episodes as you said.
@fderty4
@fderty4 7 месяцев назад
As a time lord you either regenerate or degenerate 🧐
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
I would have been thrilled to have more seasons with Nine.
@MineKurtMininer
@MineKurtMininer 5 месяцев назад
This better mean 10 reunites with donna
@nathanmorgan7949
@nathanmorgan7949 5 месяцев назад
Is there a part two?
@DavidProv
@DavidProv 7 месяцев назад
So following the second series finale would have been Voyage of the Damned and not The Runaway Bride? Because the Empress of the Racnoss will still want her children...
@jaygent2836
@jaygent2836 7 месяцев назад
Love this re-imagining
@Adamairball
@Adamairball 7 месяцев назад
I would LOVE to see multiple more parts of this! How it might've affected future casting and stories, etc.
@cameronspalding9792
@cameronspalding9792 7 месяцев назад
@ 3:03 5 billion+23, that’s 4,999,997,999 years from now
@choco.__.cat8088
@choco.__.cat8088 7 месяцев назад
9 rose in series 2 would be the same as 12 clara and i love that tbh
@joannelively9934
@joannelively9934 7 месяцев назад
I really like this 'What's If'👍
@cru-say3990
@cru-say3990 7 месяцев назад
Cant wait for the sequel for this (pls make a sequel)
@selatidos
@selatidos 7 месяцев назад
i want this what if being a dream or something fake in 15th doctor era
@sail4170
@sail4170 6 месяцев назад
Wait I LOVE THIS?!!!??
@Soccerdog2009
@Soccerdog2009 7 месяцев назад
I want more what if.. videos haha
@kiteblowin
@kiteblowin 7 месяцев назад
Wasn't Lynda supposed to be the Season 2 companion if Eccleston didn't leave.
@HuntingViolets
@HuntingViolets 7 месяцев назад
I think that was a fakeout to make us believe Rose had died.
@matthewhenthorn3343
@matthewhenthorn3343 7 месяцев назад
If the ninth doctor hadn't regenerated IRL: RTD would have been punched in the face and the BBC couldn't employ Christopher Eccleston ever again. With due respect it took me less than a minute to write that.
@markisaac7970
@markisaac7970 7 месяцев назад
aw would love to see what would have happened if 9 met the Master - sound of drums, 😶
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