What if the SEPARATIST ARMY Used Humans Instead of Droids? 

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I'd low-key fight for The CIS if it wasn't an elaborate Sith plot

Then the iconic "roger roger" from the droids will cease to exist

Strategically they should have used both. Droids fulfilling the role conscripts used to. And then a highly elite and intelligent corp of volunteers for more aggressive and difficult operations as well as special forces missions like starting insurgencies behind enemy lines. Then having organic officers over formations bigger then a platoon would have definitely introduced more tactical flexibility and reduced predictability. Since after awhile the clones figured out that all droids think the same and therefore the same trick will work over and over and over again. Where as no two organic officers think the same and they’re harder to predict. Granted this would make it much harder for Grievous to commit war crimes as people who are actually fighting for the separatist cause would logically question orders that make them look worse then the republic. And they’re going to be very confused on why they’re going conquering planets that don’t bring the war closer to an end when the objective is separation and not conquest and they merely need to sieze coruscant and force the republic to recognize their government. All this will filter back to the home front and Dooku is going to lose support as the separatist organic population realized something’s seriously wrong. Hence why organic participation was kept to an absolute minimum.

An advantage of the Seps using Droids for Palpatine was that they could be deactivated en masse - as was the case when Anaking/Vader killed the remaining leaders on Mustafar and began deactivating the droid armies. No mop up operations, Palp's army is the last on the field and his control secured.

200,000 clones is such a crazy small number for a galactic army, like the marine corps is 178,500 strong (active duty) in 2022, and that's the small branch of the US military

What if both sides used clones? When I first heard of the "Clone Wars" I imagined both sides relying on them.

I wonder how the Clones would’ve felt fighting against flesh and blood over incompetent clankers?

I kinda wish they had leaned into the idea of conscription and the use of living volunteers on the part of the CIS and even the Republic. It could have been a great opportunity to explore the strain that an actual war footing puts on a society and government.

It would have been nice for the separatists to use other aliens to help with the world building of this series

So instead of massive set piece battles, we'll see skirmishes between clones, jedi, and Separatist rebels. I could see special forces like the clone commandos playing a big part in this war.

I actually wonder how willing the Jedi would have been willing to get involved in the Clone Wars if the droid army wasn't use. You mentioned before that during other civil wars they made a point of staying out. Why they chose differently this time was probably in large part to the fact that this was being led by a Sith lord and a former Jedi, making it feel to them like it was their responsibility to end it. But it probably helped that it was being back by this mega corps who I'm guessing many Jedi where not necessarily a fan of. Add on to that they were mostly killing droid, all that probably made it pretty easy to convince the Jedi that this was a righteous cause and ignoring the real grievances of these worlds. Might have been more difficult for them if they had to face a legitimate grass roots movement. This might actually have been bad for Palpatine, because not only would it lead to less Jedi getting killed but would have probably meant a lot of separatist sympathizers might have gained respect for them, because they showed sympathy for their plight. On the other hand, the Jedi were sworn to the republic at the time, so they might have felt a duty to still take part even if there was some reluctance, especially sene their was a sith lord leading it. What might have been interesting was if some Jedi, actually choose to just leve the order, like Asoka, becuase they felt it had lost its way, rather than turnign to the dark side. That actually could have been worse for Palaptine. More independent Jedi, means more trouble hunting them down, when the final order came in, not to mention maybe some of the defectors gaining more allies, if they decided to help out on their own, rather than through the restrictions of the order. They maybe could even set up their owner light side organizaiton, one that did not have the fundemental flaw of the Jedi, so might be harder to get rid of. Actually, if more Jedi just started having more kids that coudl be bad for Palpatine. Given what we know of the the Skyalker family, and Ren, it seems that at least to some degree for senstative can be inherited. If more Jedi repreduced, that could mean a lot more unaccounted for force users out their.

Would Florida count as the outer rim? Who am I kidding it’s the unknown regions

If the majority of Separatist citizens weren’t actually willing to fight, clearly they didn’t care that badly about leaving the Republic.

They would've still lost because The Senate always intended for them to lose.

I freakin love the Jabiim Separatists armor.

In legends continuity at least both the republic and separatists used non clone/droid units. For instance on Jedi survived order 66 because he only used a personal militia instead of clone troopers and one of the best Star fighter pilots of the CIS was human

It hit hard when you showed the Swat Cats.

This makes me wanna see a series on how bad the Republic was in the Separatist's eyes.

2:51 I don't read the books so I find it confusing how Count Dooku could claim his current royalty position when he was a former jedi, who likely would have no recollection or info of his family by normal means

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

I guess Palpatine really created the no-win scenario for the Jedi. Judging from the fact in this video that if the Separatists Alliance use troops made of sentient beings, many within the Jedi Order will definitely either defect or even cause another Jedi Civil War in a middle of the Clones Wars. And I guess Palpatine can use this new Jedi Civil War to his advantage while those who left to join Count Dooku's cause will be branded as traitors by the Republic.

A lot of living soldiers fought for the CIS, too. We just see the droids plenty because they handled the offensive missions.

Would be nice to see Republic bs Earth be brought back. Been years since the last one. Still, great video.

8:33 Whooohooo SWAT cats!!!

An interesting planetary campaign to see would be Loyalist Planetary/System Defense Forces with Clone support vs A Separatist militia backed by CIS Droids. It would have some interesting opportunities for story beats as there could be some friction on each side due to integrating different command structures and tactics. A PDF/SDF commander having to deal with an equal ranked Clone commander could cause some command and control problems while a Tactical Droid may find the unpredictable nature of the insurgents on its side to cause as many problems as it fixes.

What if the separatist droid army utilised hyperadvanced strategic AI command matrixes that were at least on par with AI systems from the halo universe?

The Swat Kats would be very good as a special forces force. Small, fast and able to build anything from rubbish. Perfect force. 🤣🤣🤣

Given that any system of power relies on the participation of all it's... participants... I don't think Palpatine could have stopped what he started if too many people were involved. The empire would have died in it's crib.

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Pratically it would've became a mess such as in the "Expanse", with the more extremistical factions going astray, as happened in certain areas of Russia 's civil war or in Yughoslavia during WWII. Droids for the separatists (& Palpatine) were more reliable, when the war was over they could be Simply shut down, with organic soldiers, expecially humans, it isn't so easy. It Is also a fact that one of the worst battles of the CW was on Umbara, where the clones had to fight HUMANOIDS.

I wish we could have seen the Nimbus Commandos more.

What if the Republic kept their military after the new sith wars?

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would the Jedi really join in the war if the separatist just looked like rebels and not a monster sized army?

I Read the title. Haven’t watched but I’m just here to say that they did. Many clone wars battles were the official army of one side against whatever planetary army is guarding their world and humans did. join those

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What if the Republic used droids and Separatist used clones?

Star Wars would be a lot darker than it already is if separatists used organic soldiers 💀

It would have been hell for the clones. As they struggled against such forces due peoples ability to think outside the box.

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If the separatist army was flesh and blood, the clone wars would be much darker than led to believe. Imagine willingly sending legions of unquestioningly loyal slave soldiers to gun down poor farmers turned guerrillas. Anakin would never stand for auch an injustice.

What’s the thumbnail picture from?

Yeah, why wasn't it batallions of Cad Banes?

CIS had some cool stuff :)

How did palpiteen convince duku to be his apprentice?

Does anyone know what type of armor is being shown in the thumbnail? I would really like to know because it looks cool to me.

another reason for the droid army vs clones is so George could make a kid friendly war movies and cartoons. Jedi killing swaths of individuals would be grisly compared to a bunch of video game... Mario mushrooms and toads. Not as great for storytelling but better for Lucasfilm

How could the Sith have any power and resources for Dooku to access if they were considered gone as far as Yoda knew?

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LONG LIVE THE C.I.S!

If they used people for their forces instead of droids, there would never have been a Clone Army, and we wouldn't have gotten Boba Fett or Ahsoka Tano.

Well, doesn't our current society depend on us "droids" to remember our "stations" and do all things dirty and dangerous? "Rodger, Rodger" \m/

The rebels would be been better getting anybody who knew combat tactics. They wasted a lot of ships and personal for the simple fact they did not flake anyones position. If you can bypass the bad guys and complete a mission all the better

The whole point of the CIS was to bring up the humans against the xenos and delegetimate the Jedi

Who knows?

Would be even more based

What does PDF stand for? I’m guess Public Defense Force idk

Had they used humans instead of droids.. it would've been a very short war.. b

Honestly the separatist didn't have the droid army Palpatine would probably try and have a schism and a Jedi Civil War to justify a clone army would count Dooku leading the rebel Jedi

They would have had to make allies with worlds from the unknown regions. And yeah it never would have worked.

How about if they Republic used Cyberdyne Model 101s Cyborg T-800s inside clone suits. T-800s where more intelligent then Droids in Star Wars.

l not think the jedi would have joined the war

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i think not a lot of people would have joined a military, knowing they will fight the jedi 🤡🤡🤡

The Clone Wars were fought not just with Clones and Droids, but with millions of other types of combatants like regular militas units that no doubt fought in so many different types of battlefronts.

One other thing I’d think you’d see would be a massive inflation of non-clones into the Republic’s military. I can just imagine the separatists’ messaging “We’re willing to fight and die for what we believe in, but the fat cats in the Republic would rather send in clones than fight for their ideals!” That would most likely stir up a lot of patriotism and inflame tensions to the point where they’d see a whole of volunteer soldiers. Maybe even enough to the point where they’d start trying to phase out the clones early.

Also, the lack of the massive droid army may deter the Jedi from engaging in combat and instead they might attempt peaceful negotiations or mostly step back from the conflict. Another route might be a schism where many Jedi side with the Separatists out of the view that the Republic had become too corrupt to defend.

I guess Palpatine really created the no-win scenario for the Jedi. Judging from the fact in this video that if the Separatists Alliance use troops made of sentient beings, many within the Jedi Order will definitely either defect or even cause another Jedi Civil War in a middle of the Clones Wars. And I guess Palpatine can use this new Jedi Civil War to his advantage while those who left to join Count Dooku's cause will be branded as traitors by the Republic.

We see pro-separatist PDF's in SWTCW: Geonosian PDF's to be exact. Ki Adi Mundi ordered to burn them via flamethrowers. Name "Adi" gains a new meaning when you realy think about it.... (sorry for my bad english)

If the CIS used a mixture of droids and Trained organic soldiers, i reckon the CIS would have had an easier time gaining support and more control on the frontlines instead relying on the droid coding, a organic soldier could give our orders to droids to move where they need them most.

The republic had a miserable time fighting sentient combatants. The clones grew way too complacent fighting predictable battle droids. Every time the clones had to fight an abnormal droid like the commando droids or General Kalani they lost. Bad. Sentient enemies were unpredictable, usually willing to fight in ways the clones had never dealt with. Not to mention the Jedi would likely have to back out of the war to avoid butchering entire groups of living people so the Jedi plot armor goes with them

They did have organic armies. Umbarra and the Quarren were just 2 examples of the many thousands of worlds with their own armies. But I'm pretty sure the navy, or shall i say Offensive attacks were done by the droid army. While the planets militias were like a second line of defense. In legends as well as cannon. After the rise of the empire many worlds refused to kneel so the military was called in to face mainly organic opponents since the droid army was shut down. Its the same for the republic. Clones were the most aggressive attacks during the war with republic soldiers and local planetary militias holding ground. and the republic only had 10-20 million of these clones so they probably enlisted a few billion soldiers.

Anakin would not have a problem with killing an innocent life if that innocent life have already killed thousands of other life of course this would only make people who are not fighting in the war see the Jedi as warmongers killing machines they heard stories that Jedi were supposed to be peacekeepers protectors of the Galaxy but here they are cutting down innocent life like it was paper and that's kind of what happened toward the end of the clone wars people were realizing that the Jedi are not what they once were.

hey if the rebels had the Swat Kats they would have mopped up the Empire quickly

It's also possible that the Jedi might not get themselves involved to the war at all other than just as negotiators.

The army would be more expensive.

Imagine if dooku had built his own jedi order, he had enough knowledge and experience to do so.

Funny thing is had the CIS done this it would look even more like firefly

What if there were no clones. Could the Confederacy raise an organic military and win?

What if the Separatists overthrew Kamino's governemnt and stole the clone cration process after Phantom Menace. If the separatists are the ones with a clone army. What military force could the Republic use. Arm their billions of poor aimless citizens and drop them on a battlefield, opening up to a potential revolution?

If they had fielded more people this could have worked in their favour by giving the confederation a face. This could then have created more sympathy in the core region and more instability in the Republic.

Do you think the PDF used PDF's?

I believe many Jedi would have left the order, and the republic if the seps were more human, and or humanoid because the Jedi would have investigated why the seps wanted to form their own government.

These reasons make me think the Cis were the good guys in the clone wars

What’s the Count Dooku book that goes through his childhood called? I wanted to read it finally.

i feel sorry for them humans/aliens conscriptions having to deal with clones and jedi.

Even in our real universe, a mixed organic/robotic military would be unstoppable, that is the way of the future.

A positive for the Jedi in fighting human separatists would have better chances of having peaceful resolutions or scaring them of fighting against wizard monk with laser swords. To be honest I never like the clones army can you do a what if of the Republic having to enlist a human army against the droid army. This would be like the stromtrooper of OG trilogy vs the droid army.

Where is the thumbnail art from?

What, they hired the Thunerkats and Swat Cats, but not the Care Bears?

8:24 "animal themed mercenaries" 😂😂😂

I could sorta get behind the CIS if it wasn’t just a ploy by the Sith to destroy the Republic. I’d choose droid support over clones, anyway.

Ever considering doing a video on what would have happened if the Jedi order had sided with the separatist?

we did see one PDF force belonging to the SEPARATISTs that was the forces on Umbara

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I can't help but think there would be more Jedi joining the separatists if they had face humans, innocent people who could look them in the eye and ask them why they were slaughtering them when they just wanted to live their own lives.

If the Separatists army used humans, Attack of the Clones would have got an R rating.