What if the Soviets had joined the Axis in the WW2? A detailed alternate timeline! (Part 1 of 3) 

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Imagine rommel and zhukov working together

Finally, the perfect ship: the Fatherland and the Motherland.

"What if the Soviets had joined the Axis in the WW2?" Well... *did you saw the video "Meet the Medic"?*

"Stalin looks like a man i could do business with" - famous last words

İmagine living in turkey and sweden in this scenerio

The very possibility of the USSR joining the Axis was Churchill's literal worst fear.

"... The US would declared war on Japan, Germany, Soviet, and the rest of the Axis" *Sad italian voice* "Guys, we are one of the main pact of steel member"

Turkey getting surrounded in all sides by russo-germanic axis powers: _This is Fine_ Switzerland: *First Time?*

You failed to mention the most powerful member nation of this new alliance - *Tannu Tuva*

The USSR would give oil to the Japanese , wich in this case , Pearl Harbour doesn't happen

I love how the Soviets don't even attempt to invade Afghanistan in the alternate Universe.

National Bolshevism may actually be a thing in this universe

Was anyone else slightly bugged by the inconsistencies in the maps?

Russia and Germany : *Work together* The rest of Europe: *Chuckles* "i am in danger"

This is me and my friends playing a game of modded Crusader Kings 3. "You're getting Iran? Okay, then can I have Yugoslavia? Thanks!"

Hitler would have stabbed Stalin in the back again.

A war like this would've dwarfed WWII in our timeline. It could possibly even last for decades, with generations of people living through and only for the war.

I can only imagine the pressure placed on the Manhattan Project in this timeline.

THIS IS GONNA BE AN AWESOME SERIES!

I would never say that Germany lost air war over Brittain, Hitler just changed objectives.

Point of note: Rommel was commanding roughly two divisions of _German_ troops. But throughout the entirety of the North African campaign, most Axis troops were Italian. At the Second Battle of El Alamein there were 10 Italian divisions plus independent brigades. The Italian troops in North Africa actually performed very well considering their lack of modern equipment when placed under German command. At the Battle of Gazala, which is considered Rommel's most impressive victory, Italian troops outnumbered their German counterparts 2:1.

The US would have joined immediately if Russia and Germany united. A massive part of both American and British Grand strategy is to keep Russia and Germany divided

Best Crossover the world could have seen

TBH this alliance would likely be too unstable. They'd both be completely looking for the right time to take out or annex or coup their ally and bring them under direct control or just win a decisive victory so they can have the upper hand and don't need to worry about the other side doing it.

I don’t know if Japan would declare war on the US, since the reason they did it was the US oil embargo and needing resources in lands belonging to European powers. If the USSR can supply them with enough oil to sustain them, they could just not reach that desperation.

Spoiler for part 3 - "Nukes, oh god, so many nukes!"

The US would still hold Midway even if they lost the naval battle, compared to other islands, Japan could not send such a big force to take it considering the distance and the US garrison alone could hold them of

Brilliant episode, am looking forward to part 2. Perhaps a sequel to a war in 1956 over Suez with an alternative outcome with the USSR actually declaring war on the UK?

If the USSR joined the Axis, the Italian navy would have been more active due to a heavier influx of oil. The reason the Italian active wasn't that active is due to the lack of oil. Please mention it at least in the second video, because it is extremely important. With Iran and Iraq conquered, oil would be more than enough. Let's not forget that Romania's oil fields will be pretty much intact, due to no Soviet bombings, and due to Soviet air support. The US and the UK would rather not bomb it as they would believe it wouldn't be worth it due to the distance and the other active oil fields Germany can use as an alternative. When Egypt is conquered, even more oil is available, and the British are pretty much gone from the Mediterranean, which would allow for more action of the Italian fleet in the Atlantic.

Uk: Germany will attack the Soviet Union they will die in the fighting The Soviet Union has joined the Axis *UK sweating*

I never thought of this “what if”. Great episode Binkov.

This video is awesome!

The map is SO wrong. In 1941 Russia had annexed the Baltic states as well as parts of Romania and Finland.

Everyone: “the war will be over by Christmas” Nazi-Soviet military pact: “are you sure about that?”

Realy good vid

Well they actually did at the beginning of the war, and this caused the fall of France and Poland.

I think this time Spain would join the war, the axis is winning on every front and the axis has the control of the Mediterranean sea. With Spain's help, they could kick out che Americans from Morocco

I find it implausible for Japan to declare war on the US. In reality, they were pressured towards Indonesian oil, which would here be supplied by the Eurasian block.

Yeah this is a stretch even for alt-history though, considering even Stalin sought help from the allies before the Germans

you have to remember, the Soviets were starving, with dwindling supplies, the US sent extreme amounts of goods, I could recommend a documentary that talks all about how US manufacturing kind of saved the war effort

This was a very interesting video Binkov! Can’t wait for second part!

The Berlin-Moscow Axis 👀😳

I like very much the idea of using your war knowledge to explore alternative history, thanks

Ah, the classic "Unholy Alliance", always a fun topic!

If the axis/soviet union wins I expect a lot of salt in the comments

Italy: Guys! Hey, fellas, listen! Germany just made an agreement with Soviets! Germany: It's more than agreement. We'll share our technologies with each other, get their resources and army. Here, watch this! They even invaded Iran and made Britain defend in Near East! Italy: So, we are fine, as long nobody attack American bases. Japan: Question. Italy: What is your question, Japan? Japan: I attacked American base. Italy: W h a t . Japan: You told me to. Italy: How much? Japan: I did nothing but bombed American bases for three days. Germany: WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SENDING YOUR BOMBERS?!!

very nice video greetings from Chile bro :D

Germany would not be fighting on two fronts and would have the oil supplies in the Soviet Union secured for its use. Even if the Soviets didn’t fight and stayed neutral, it would have been a very different and darker war for the western allies.

You need to do more of these. Amazing.

Just play HOI4, play as germany, get the Unholy Alliance focus and boom, Berlin-Moscow Axis

Finally. A proper way to do this alternate timeline of WW2.

Binkov, please do more Alternate History content like this. Detailed world-building based on Alternate History scenarios is something sorely lacking on RU-vid. It's a great area of content for you to expand into.

it's still crazy to think of how big the british empire is on its own, like one nation holding so many fronts would be unheard of nowadays.

it was an unholy alliance, it just wasn't enough space for 2 mad men

That's a freaking weird friendship, or abusive relationship if i might say

“We all know our history” - Finland’s borders are off; no connection to arctic sea.

Extremely interesting! Regards!

Me: "I like the concept" Hitler: "Nein"

Damn, this is interesting

Interesting video! Some thoughts of mine: so of course this is a pretty wild what-if and I know it could go either way, but I don't think the Japanese can conquer all of those islands in the Pacific, even less for Midway. During the historical battle, the Japanese already had almost no chance of capturing Midway, with their invasion force being OUTNUMBERED by the American defenders, when an amphibious landing essentially requires a large numerical superiority by several times. Even more considering the Americans knew the Japanese were coming. For an extra handicap, there were a lot of reef around the island, which would mean the Japanese troops would leave their barges a couple of hundred metres away from the coast, and would have to wade for several minutes until they reach land, during the which they'd be sitting ducks to the defenders. And all of this is assuming they can even win the battle. The Americans had a complete intelligence advantage which they would maintain here, so they would know how many enemies would come, and they wouldn't fight a battle they can't win (and yes, the Americans had advantage in the real battle and they knew it). Added to this, I don't see a reason the US would send their aircraft carriers into the Atlantic. Unless there's a huge Axis naval victory that tips the scales, the British will still have naval superiority regardless of what the Soviets bring. At best they'll have extra submarines, sure, but you don't use fleet aircraft carriers to hunt submarines (as the British learned the hard way). So they might send more surface combatants to the Atlantic, but the CVs won't be needed at least for several years (until the Axis starts having more capital ships), and by that time the US would already be 3D-printing Essex-class carriers and other warships.

Interesting video

Funnily enough, at the signing of the pact of steel Stalin wanted to go, but wasn’t invited

AxiSoviet:ha! Ur ground force are no match! Allies:yea... Ur Navy sucks AxiSoviet:we know... So... Allies:yea........

Nazbol gang rise up

What a crazy Timeline! I can't even imagine what it would be living in it

Ya let me down on this one, Binkov. I listen every day. I've read a ton of books on this war, from all sides.

Toss in Neville Chamberlain and you’ve got the Orwell 1984 scenario. Well done 👍🏾

Actually, for this to happened just like that the Germans shouldn't be Nazis to begin with, if they stood as they were in the real life and decided to accept the diplomatic approach with the USSR (highly improbable), the USSR would just let them be against the British and would probably just stuck with imports and exports, and probably with both sides just like other neutral countries. But if the Germans were more sympathetic to the USSR, well, would be something like that but, without the Japanese, the Germans weren't so keen about the alliance with the Japanese, even with Italy, is even possible that the Italians would join the allies or even be neutral, the Mediterranean campaign could never happen in this time line, hell, even the Spanish civil war could have taken another turn, even the French government itself could react differently to the German expansion, same with Poland. They were ok with the Nazis because they thought they would just fight the Soviets, most of them didn't expected an invasion, some of them even welcomed one, imagine if the Germans weren't as they were and somehow were sympathetic to the Soviets? Would be a whole lot of a different war.

this is the most blessed timeline

I think you completely underestimate the US in the Pacific at that time Midway would still be a u.s. victory because they sent three carriers compared to the Japanese 6

Blinkov forgot one very important fact… ussr at the year of 1941 was have BIGGest submarine fleet in world… it was one of biggest mistakes of soviet commandment - in real history it was blocked in baltic and black sea but imagine it unleashed)

what if the nazis got their hands on the Great Bob Semple Tank

German/Soviet allied? gg

Moral of the story, England exists because of its allies in war, not because of it's ability to wage war.

I just had a crazy idea, can you do the northern hemisphere vs the Southern Hemisphere? It’s a big list of countries. Pretty much all the countries of the world, I just thought to ask.

I gotta say the US losing the battle of Midway seems unlikely. They had intel on the Japanese invasion so they probably would have been as prepared as they needed to be

There wasn't enough food and oil for both Europe and the USSR, this scenario requires magic to happen.

I like this scenario 👍👍👍

After germanys defeat in the Battle of Britain in 1940 one wonders how smart the naziz was to open another front to fight on when they couldn't ever secure the first one...

The wet dream of every HOI IV player.

Alternative history like this can be a lot of fun to consider. I would like to see more of these, Commissar.

What a beautiful team we should have been friends from the start 🇩🇪 🤝 🇷🇺

You know it’s interesting to look at a possible alliance between Germany and Russia because even Hitler hated the communists and the Soviet Union, many in the high command still saw the practicalities in aligning with the Soviets because for one the soviets after the invasion of Poland still traded with Germany (until Barbarossa) which gave the Germans critical supplies and many many of their foreign policy advisors thought that they could join together and gut the British empire.

This timeline is looking supsiciously like Orwell's three superstate world of 1984...

I think it would be amazing for both sides to have joined the axis, the Russian could provide the man power and resources and they both could combine technology, and Italy could also do better with more resources from the ussr

Great video, but i spotted one mistake, you talked about how germany would conquer malta with ariborne troops. But after the airborne invasion of greek with heavy casulties, hitler didnt want to do air invasions anymore. So they likely would have used marine troops. still great video

Cool

And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.

I doubt Midway would have been taken, even if the battle at sea is lost it likely would be a pyrrhic victory meaning the navy would not be able to help the army attack, Also those islands were rammed with troops they are not falling any time soon.

In early 1940 the British and French governments requested right of passage through Norway and Sweden to send an army to fight the Soviets during their invasion of Finland. Their requests were refused. If not, Britain and France would have been at war with both Germany and the Soviet Union.

Next video: If Germany joins allies and Ussr joins axis

make egypt vs Turkish state pls

Major problem with this video: The Japanese never would have struck Pearl Harbor because the decision to do so was reached after the Japanese were crushed at Khalkin Gol by the Soviets. Since I’m out scenario, the Soviets and the Empire of Japan are allies, there would be no need for Japan to redirect its attention to naval supremacy and attack Pearl Harbor. US involvement would likely be a nonfactor in this scenario unless the territorial integrity of the Americas faced imminent threat.

I wish this was the real history. A much better world.

3:11 the negotiations were short.

Me: Mom I want to get Hearts of Iron 4. Mom: We have Hearts of Iron 4 at home. (Hearts of Iron 4 at home be like)

This was actually more likely than people realize, the allies were planning on bombing the azeri oil fields in '40 so Germany wouldn't continue getting access to the oil by buying it from Soviets. Obviously, this would have been interpreted by Stalin as a DOW and the allies would now be in an offensive war against the USSR. Fortunately, this didn't happen, for the same reason why the allies didn't declare war on the USSR after Stalin invaded Poland, because the allies didn't want to fight both Hitler and Stalin at once.

That would have been a formidable if not unbeatable foe.

Its goding to be more bloody that the real timeline.