What if the USSR Never Existed 

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6:03 unrealistic, Tsarist russia was industrialising faster than USSR. this is because the USSR killed and imprissoned Russia's most experianced and effective industrialists, and exiled foreign aide. A Tsarist Russia would not only continue to rapidly expand their industry due to both their own internal industrialists and investment from the british, french and americans, like IRL. but it would be even higher than pre-ww1 levels as the Tsarists recignised during the first world war that their industry was not sufficient and one of their goals was to further increase their rate of industrialisation. But ALSO a Tsarist russia in the timeline provided would have war reparations, almost certainly in the form of industrial investment, due to staying in the war and being on the winning side. AND it wouldn't have the damage to repair from civil war that the USSR had. furthermore, it has been calculated that the disarerous soviet policies like collectivisation pushed back their ecconomic development by atleast 24%. even the most conservative estimates for the size of Tsarist industry in the 1940s is still slightly larger than the USSR in the OTL. and that's assuming a reduction of ecconomic development. a maintaining of Tsarist growth leads to about 33-50% more industry in 1940 than the USSR. and using extrapolations based off of similar ecconomies to the Tsarist russia that maintained a market ecconomy we see one potentially double the indsutrialisation of the USSR (depending on how far they go) one of the reasons the germans were eager for war with russia in ww1 was because they wanted to beat them before they overtook the germans ecconomically and industrially. (main source: Ricón, José Luis, “The Soviet Union: From farm to factory. Stalin's Industrial Revolution”, Nintil (2017-02-04)) the other major unrealistic elements: 1) the success of the germans against the ussr at the begining was largely a result of the USSR's forward deployment of their divisions allowing easy large encirclements at the start of the war and the dismanteling of the 'stalin line' as the ussr shifted to a more agressive stance to the germans. If the Tsarists are less industrial then there is noway they would do this shift, ie in your scenario they would still do better. 2) without loss of land to the soviets poland would not gain territory from germany. the allies gave german territory to poland after ww2 as compensation for land lost to the ussr. furthermore the western allies were against forced migration. 2.1) speaking of poland, if they were in a commonwealth treaty with Russia they would not have gotten the polish corridor or atleast Danzig would remain part of germany that was set up to give poland access to the sea via a friendly/free port. since Russia is the friendly port in this timeline that doesn't happen. there is also no way that poland gains eastern Galicia, as russia already annexed that during the war (proclaiming liberation of the Ruthenians of Galicia), there is no way a Russia on the side of the victorious powers would seceed that without a fight, speaking of... 2.2) there is no way the polish win against the russians so quickly or at all. historically the polsih BARELY defeated a soviet invasion. the russian army would be stronger, and the poles would have less time to prepare, and the russians wouldn't be invading but already deployed in their country. You also have the intervension of the league of nations who will be interested in actually keeping the peace since they are not overtly anti-russian (OTL they were anti-soviet) 3) Assuming Russia even breaks up into Ukraine/etc (already unlikely, those only broke away from ussr after the soviet coup in the 90s, they originally voted to stay united with Russia) Crimea would be part of Russia. it was only transfered to Ukraine by the USSR. no USSR means no Ukrainian Crimea. Without USSR it is either independant or part of russia. 4) Russia would have been brought back as a monarchy just like other occupied monarchies. if it changes to a republic later on thats another story. 5) the ww1 peacedeal is just in general unrealistic for a 1919 surrender. 1919 surrender means massive american involvement, meaning more american say in how the peacedeals go down. meaning the 14 points are actually followed. so no sudentenland in Czechsolovakia, Italy doesn't get all of South Tirol, only the italian population bit. no Carpatho Ruthenia in Slovakia (but part of russia), a less harsh treaty for hungary. no prevention of austria and germany uniting. this more conistant peace, and no ussr takes alot of wind out of nazi sails. its likely that germany becomes monarchist or austrio-fascist rather than nazis. they are also unlikely to start ww2 at all. 5.1) ww2 is much more likely to be the result of a french civil war being escalted by italy. the french almost had a civil war in the 1940s and only the threat of germany united them. without an agressive germany, the french fall into civil war, probably while the spainish one is still on going. and the italians intervene. 6) then there is the question of if the tsarist government can even survive staying in ww1.

Small Error: The Treaty of London which made Italy join the war was known only by Italy, Russia, France and the UK, with no Russian Revolution, the Treaty of London would have remained a secret and so, the USA would not have opposed the Italian claim to all of Dalmatia.

If anything the Russians would likely be stronger by the time WW2 came around than the Soviet Union was, especially given the show trial purges. This would've seen them likely do better against blitzkrieg, potentially stopping the German advance roughly aroudn about Minsk and along the river in Latvia, and stopping them at the Dnipro, also they'd do much better against Finland without the purges

I’ll just have to assume February was cut out, given it was already the Russian Republic by the time of Lenins revolution

Just so you know, the only reason the Soviets lost against Finland is beacuse Stalin purged his good generals, while the Tsar wouldn't do that. Just some food for thought...

Автор даже не старался. Просто сделал историю ПМВ и ВМВ, только зачеркнул СССР и написал Российскую империю.

The provisional government left the chat.

6:03 "Russia is not fully industrialized because of the Monarchy, their army is wiped out" I thought similar back at the botched winter war with Finland but if Russia was under-industrialized then how the did the reich manage to do as well as in reality without the secret military cooperation with the USSR?

1:45 We shall never forget the dreadful asd event.

6:53 Волгоград при монархии назывался Царицын, а Санкт-Петербург с начала первой мировой Петроград так-как Санкт-Петербург звучал слишком по немецкий

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The history would be another if that had happened. Not only in Europe, but in the entire world.

7:31 RIP Nicolas II, cause of death were *killed by german soldier* 🫡

Да да,Россия выстояла на 2 фронта в первой мировой, но проиграла каким-то бомжам с палками под руководством Пилсудского.

Damn, these videos are the best for my friends and i to watch! Keep making these videos mn ❤

3:34 this wouldn’t be a Italian Mapper vid without WW2

What if Italy didn't join Russia, France and Great Britain and stayed in the Central Powers

Unrealistic af but still good

rare non ww2 scenario

what if free territory won and russia fell into anarchy

Technically, even if the Russian Empire had never turned communist, it would have suffered domestic violence and turmoil for years to come. Without the Five-Year Plans to industrialize their economy, Germany would have had a much easier time conquering Russia, assuming a similar path in an alternate history. However, the purges made by the Soviets in the real timeline wouldn't happen either in this scenario.

February revolution: ...

Sorry for my english Video is cool but very unrealistic Bolshevik revolution is impossible without February revolution, because their popularity began to grown only after mistakes of the provisional government. If February revolution didn't happen, then Russian army discipline isn't falling. Russian Empire planned major offensive in 1917. I think in that scenario, Great war would have ended in autumn 1917 - summer 1918. Also polish and romanian army couldnt resist russian army Loser of World War II Russia is really fuuny, because Russian economy and army potential without Civil War is mooooore beter than Soviet

I think Russia being non-communist would probably influence all of europe. A lot of national socialist ideology in Germany was focused around The struggle against the slavic hordes and especially communism. A lot of the ideology came from White émigrés from the russian civil war, especially Baltic Germans, spreading their ideas of the communists. Now they wouldnt flee, since the communists didnt win. It would probably be a significant change. Since now Germany wouldnt have a politcaly polar oppoisite enemy (the USSR) its ideology would change. A lot of Hitler's cabinet, especially before coming to power, were monarchists and nationalists.

I'll admit, of all the things I saw happening, Tsar Nicolas the II working with Hitler was not one of the things I thought I'd see here.

Bro thinks that Russian Empire is the Soviet Union ☠️

I have a complaint How in the world will allies win the war without russia i mean if russia collapsed at ww2 it means the world will collapse aswell

I don't like this, you basically just replaced the USSR with the Russian Empire and the only difference being you made their army a little weaker.

Probably best timeline. No 30,000,000 dead at the hands of the communists. Great quality and work! Amazing!

Despite if the russian empire collapsed or not,poland always gets divided in 1939

I don’t think that Vladimir Putin would be born in this reality.

No offense, but the Baltics would remain Russian and Poland is given semi-autonomy, Russia will gain Galicia from Austria-Hungary and incorporate it into the Semi-Autonomous Poland, and Germany loses all of East Prussia to Russia basically destroying any hopes of German revenge

"Germany speedruns the battle of france"

That was pretty good 👍

So in other words, almost nothing changes

Where is kerensky 💀

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Т.к это был уже не срветский союз , то он не мог так же колопсироваться , во 1 у россий федариции бы не было такой системы как республик , что государство состояло бы союз нескольких других , по этому белорусь и украина вообще не как не могли бы отсоедениться без вооруженного востания , что мало вероятно, тк тут бы не развивалась эдэнтичнойсть отдельных народов как в ссср , где напримую они назывались белорось и ураина. И так же причиной колапса экономики СССР был сильный военный бюджет , что при демократичной России было бы мало вероятно, т.к не было бы холодно войны и правешему верху это было сложне.А тут даже холодной войны не может быть и речь , т.к России не контролирует даже близко таких теритой варшавского договора , что не говорить о поддержке режимов коммунистов по всему миру.Так же маловероятен был бы приход Путина и Ельцина к власти без колапса

L ending

Пусть и так, за то будем жить нормально, без "величия"

You have NO RIZZ, you pull ZERO maidens, your Jordan are FAKE, and the cool guy sticker isn't even that COOL. (edit) Btw this is pure irony I do NOT watch skibidi toilet or something

Fun fact: in the time of World War I the Tsar Nicolas II promised Poland to be independent state if the war will end

I dont think so moldova exist in this timeline they are would incorporate to romania

Мне кажется, у СССР и РИ свои особенности. СССР как будто лучше справлялся с крупными войнами, или с войнами с крупными державами: (Японская Империя. Третий Рейх. Италия. США в небольших анти-колониальных второстепенных войнах без посредственного участия) однако плохо воевал против Финляндии, и Афганистана. РИ как будто хорошо справлялась с покорением Средне Азиатских стран, подавлением восстаний в Варшавском Герцогстве

What if the world was extremely based:

ммм, речь Сталина на 6:33 У нас же нету тут СССР

1st-bolsheviks lost to poles because they fighted a CIVIL WAR at that time. without the civil war there will be no other fronts to fight, meaning that ALL of russian army will fight the poles, romanians etc. assuming that russian army demobilized onto pre-war level, poles will have to fight 1m-1.5m soldiers. THEY ARE NOT SURVIVING. Also, Finland was in a personal union with Russia, so I dont see any point in resisting till Nickolas dies. 2nd-Russia would still get industrialized, because after the recovery of the economy, the GIANT potential of the most populous european nation with little industry will come in hand, and foreign companies will invest in RE. 3rd-Winter war was a humiliation of the soviets because soviets purged the army. HALF OF THE OFFICERS AND GENERALS WERE PURGED. Without purges happening, I can't see Finland survive 4th-Due to RE being a part of a global economical system, I can say that Russia would be interested in containing nazi germany cuz the war will hurt russian economy by destroying a european market pretty much. 5th-if Russia falls, then germany has ALL resources they need. Allies would not emerge victorious, they would need to sign a peace treaty with them cuz 3 MILLION german soldiers will be guarding the coasts of atlantic, leaving no chance for d-day.

How about cold war scenario?

Why is The Führer's Portrait blurred?

румыния врядли бы напал на РИ

If tsar Nicholas ii was actually smart

Poland literally forgot belarusians and ukranians existed

I would feel that by 1940, Nicholas would be dead as he would be over 70 years old. Alexei would have taken his place by then as tsar

Romania was not going to lose North Bucovina and Bessarabia if Russia constantly failed on a counter attack

not the German add that sponsors War Thunder Showing a Panzer 2A5 Main Battle Tank😭😭😭💀💀💀

What if USA stayed neutral in ww1

Very boring and uncreative video.

Do a video of WW1:Red Flood (Every days)

Can you do what if ww3 happend in the 60s showing Soviet victory and USA victory showing casualties an China getting involved

Basically ww2 but Russia lost because "oh, monarchy bad"

So... just like real world then?

*There is no russian empire after feb 1917 Revolution. Where is Russian Republic? :'D*

1 germany not can win russian empire 2 if germany win allies too not can win.

Where you did animation?

You realize the monarchy was industrializing Russia right

1:45 asd

Так лол, во время революции не было царя у власти, уже тогда было временное российское правительство

Good video!

Czechoslovakia 😔

You should expand this 👍

I like how this video completely refuses to have any sense

Would nato even exist in this timeline

Wow this is actually the stop of ww2 drug addiction great😊😊😊😊😊😊 (But everyone not knowing that this is a start of a new addiction)

What if spanish empire never collapsed?

“Germany is starting to lose steam everyone front” remove the freaking “is”

I think, that very unrealistic alt history.

Can you make about WW3 between Germany and puppets on europe and africa vs Japan and its allies (maybe Pacific Country) if Axis Won WW2?

@Italian_Mapper Romania was promissed after ww1 bessarabia and Bukowina

In This Alternative Universe the October Revolution Was Failed Russian Empire Continues make way To Germany USA Enters Ww1 German Empire Has Fallen Ending Ww1

Russia in ww2 alternate ww2

What? How realistic they countered the revolution this easily? Just asking Of course I read the name of the video, but... how?

Nice video! Can you make the pt3 of ww2 struggle on Europe? I've been waiting for months for the next pt.

You do realize that Finland declared independence because the Tsar was no longer in charge, right? 💀 u just did the same events as ww2 except use the Russian Empire

Why is Hitler's face blurred

Here before the premire

What kind of heresy is this??

I dont think theyd still fight just bc theres no commuism doesn't mean theres no anti war sentiment

Inaccurate as hell

I want to watch this video already pls release it

Damnn thats one of the best timelines ever

Nice video

where did comrade Nicholas go after 1942?

This is just ww2 axis victory with russia different name

Why Finland didnt joined operation Barbarrosa as OTL if russian finnis war, more if Finland won ?

Why did the tsar not change

What happen eastern anatolia is the russians gain six vilayet and what happen this territories after ww2 is the greater armenia established in modern day(in this scenario)

can we see a alternate ending in this please the ending we have it's suck the video is super good man but ending suck and axis still lose ww2 and why didn't allied power just make peace with germany or something

Fps?

Why is there two permire vids