This is actually the first time I'm making an informative animation like this. Tell me what you think! Music used: Vegeta's Theme - FighterZ 8bit Remix. Vegeta's Theme - Super Botuden 2 Extended.
The amount of factors taken into consideration, the possible outcomes and transformations that we never even dreamed of. It blows my mind to how you are able to create this/put it together. There is a reason we love your content.
@@champagnegascogne9755 that would be nice but at the end of the what if, beerus gets woken up by the power and him and whis are going over to where they are vegito is so I need to see that fight
But he has the advantage of creating his own scenarios and easily being able to justify the scaling based on his needs, unlike the actual series. Still, he is very good on the explanations and correlates(is this word a thing?) a lot of material in a very interesting and coherent way.
"may even have a sixth form" Someone foreshadowing frieze pulling something out of his ass to win later lol. Though I am excited to see what this supposed 6th form will be.
I like how he is making his own storyline with Goku black, from fighting future Gohan to unlock his god ki, to time hopping to team up with baby Vegeta, fighting Broly and fusing with baby in the process. And it seems what if 14 will take place after the Gohan fight but before the Broly fight, and it looks like black will be fighting a SSG Vegeta in an attempt to learn more about the capabilities of the Saiyan tail and SSJ4.
Do you readed the descriptions? They're different Goku Black's. The one who fought Broly defeated Goku, Vegeta and Trunks without needing to fuse with Zamasu, while the other had to escape because Zamasu was sucessfully sealed with the Mafuba. (he said that in the community section 3 weeks ago)
@@TreeDad Yeah that was unexpected, but he doesn't explained how Goku Black achieved Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Rose Kaioken, I don't think it was a good idea to just link to that what if as a prequel without further explanation
@@Kai-fh7uq Does he really need to explain how he got weaker forms when he had already achieved Rose? Obviously once he could turn Rose, he could naturally use Goku's less taxing abilities.
Hyourinjutsu, just wanna say thank you on behalf of our community, the time you invest, the stories and fights you create are a blessing. Thank you for sharing your talent and determination with us. Everything you have earned so far, you deserve it. Thank you for your hard work, Hyourinjutsu
@@williansondospassossilva5808 I didn't mean everyone, You, me, Hyourinjutsu, and other people are not one of those people. I'm saying like 70% of the Dragon Ball community is that.
Oh shit I’ve never thought about it. Broly’s “best” start form would be ssj3 since it takes a shit ton of energy but Broly has overflowing energy so maintaining it and using it fully would be no problem for him
Actually no his best form if ever allowed to be would be ssjb perfect ki control if he ever controlled that unless goku went straight to ultra instinct he'd ramp up to unbeatable in minutes.
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Actually the best game to give you an expirience close to this is dragon ball super sonic fighters it has the dragon ball feel put on 2d just search for emulators online.
Golden Cell + SSJ4 Goku Absorbed is without a doubt the most terrifying thing I've ever seen. Doesn't help that What-If was about the most depressing thing ever. I really want to see a sequel to that and hopefully with a happy ending like SSJ4 Gogeta just obliterating the both of them or fuck, have SSJ4 Blue Goku just come in and wreck their shit. Then again, if Frieza could improve and get stronger with just image training then I see no reason why Goku couldn't do the same.
Reason why Frieza can improve so drastically just from something like image training is mostly because of his genes. He was born a prodigy, which meant that his body was gifted with abnormal power and an even more ridiculous capacity to get stronger. Goku, while he is indeed a fighting genius, wasn't born a prodigy. As a result, he'd gain power at a lot slower rate compared to Frieza. (Note: Not taking Zenkais into account since Frieza never exploited a similar benefit during his training and probably never even suffered serious damage during training.)
Also been wondering, what if Goku went SSJ3 instead of SSJ on Oozaru, if that would give him SSJ6? And if he applied God ki on top of that. I just wanna see the golden 6th form Frieza vs this SSJ6 Blue Goku
Super Saiyan 6 doesn't even exist, at best the strongest non-godly transformation is Super Saiyan 5 which isn't even canon. And no, SSJ4 Blue Goku should be more than enough to be a challenge to Frieza's 6th form, if he had one that is.
@@bw7004 I dont know what to call that transformation, so I just called it SSJ6. It would just be a SSJ4 with SSJ3 hair cuz Goku would go SSJ3 when he goes Oozaru
10:15 *Reads Description* Did this man just unintentionally predicted Frieza’s new form? I can only imagine how dangerous Black Frieza would be in that timeline.
No, pretty sure that's a reference to "Dragon Ball Mulltiverse", where a King Cold from another universe has not only a fifth form that looks similar to Cooler's, but also a sixth form that is much bigger and more monstrous.
Hey guys! Be sure to follow my Patreon page for more tidbits regarding future content! www.patreon.com/hyourinjutsu Even though I spent a lot of time making this, it was really fun! I did this so people could have a bit of more understanding regarding the [What-If] lore. That said, Chapter #14 - SSJG Vegeta VS SSJ4 Goku Black is in the making, and hopefully you've gotten a bit of an idea what it's going to be like from this video here. Stay tuned and much love!
I know this is your ur own created universe, but could you explain why the dance fusion is stronger than the potara fusion? I believe its the other way around in canon
@@theelderscrolls90 the same in the cannon, they retconned it in super sadly. Patora used to be so broken, it was able to man handle, buuhan, who had the strongest non fused character in the series so far. And those you said it wasn't clear at all, read the guides, it blatantly says patora is better than dance. Don't know why dance is better than patora here
Honestly, SSJ4/SSJB GT Goku should be the strongest out of all of them. Goku gains immense zenkais such as the one in the Tournament of Power where as SSJB he endured the "strongest attack ever" from Jiren and could keep up with a powered up Jiren who was stronger than the one who had already surpassed Merged Zamasu & SSJB Vegito. I can definitely see that GT/Super Goku already surpassing past fusions powers by several times over.
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TheEndo-SymArmor Pokemon gets clapped Easley gets clapped but digimon is pretty hard because neo and zeedmeleniumon exist and many more reality time and space warping digimon.
@@The-Endo-SymArmor Depends really. Theres only one Arceus but Gamefreaks confirmed that every variation from mystery dungeon to all the pokemon games is its own universe. Thats how we got rainbow rocket, primal dialga, etc. So with that in mind Arceus who created all these where theres only one should be multiversal on the same levels as Zeno. Unless you count how he got fucked by a big rock, but then Goku gets bruised by bullets, hurt by a rock in super saiyan, a laser if caught off guard and etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
If anyone was wondering, I can set the WHOLE What-if timeline here. Starting off with Broly Legendary Super Saiyan 3 vs Goku Super Saiyan Blue. Apparently, LSSJ3 Broly was a projection made by Whis, made for training. Goku was likely pushed to go beyond Super Saiyan Blue, by Whis, or it was just to learn to maintain his SSJB state. Now further on to the next what-if. We have Gohan (Teen and ssj3) vs Gohan (Adult and Mystic.) This event is most likely either a dream for adult Gohan, or it could be two timelines breaching into eachother because of Trunks' time manipulating. This should take place around at the same time or after the last event. When we go onto Super Saiyan 4 Goku vs Beerus, I'm imagining that this event take place before the last two events, because he states that he doesnt like using others powers to make them his own, implying, that he hasnt gotten Super Saiyan Blue yet. So prior, to not discovering super saiyan blue, he is now using and will probably be using Super Saiyan 4 for the rest of this Dragon Ball Super timeline. Now we go onto Vegeta Super Saiyan vs Freeza. This must take place before even Super Saiyan 4 Goku vs Beerus and all the other timelines, this is an alternate timeline where Vegeta turns Super Saiyan before Goku. (I also have another Theory for later.) For Golden cell vs Super Saiyan Blue 4 Goku, Goku utilizes his tail and the great ape and super saiyan to go super saiyan 4, and then mixing it with super saiyan god. I'm also pretty sure this happens a few years AFTER Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta vs Golden Cell. (I'm coming to that now.) Golden Cell vs Gohan Goku and Vegeta. This is suppose to be before Goku vs Golden Cell I'm pretty sure. In this, Cell sees that their forms go even beyond the gods, which makes him think, "Aren't I suppose to be the perfect being?" and yes, he is suppose to be, so naturally, he learns to utilize Super Saiyan Blue, Golden form, and Super Saiyan Rosé at the same time, with that he easily escapes from Hell... Future Gohan vs Goku Black. This is the start of the Goku Black era. To create this timeline, Goku Black killed Trunks, thus, changing time and space again. He then starts off by incinerating the planet, making Future Gohan appear. Future Gohan is Goku Black's "Punching Bag", and Future Gohan ends up getting killed. Super Saiyan Blue Vegito vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta. Gogeta creates a rift in time and space, assuming that someone strong enough would do the same and point those two universes together. And Gogeta was right, Vegito bends time and space, thus, making their universe end in a single point, and meeting. Super Saiyan 5 Broly vs Baby Vegeta and Goku Black. The next piece of the Goku Black era, Baby Vegeta is about to end Goku, but then Goku Black appears. He wants to see the full extent of Super Saiyan 4. (This takes place after Future Gohan vs Goku Black) In this timeline, Broly is awakened because of Goku dying, and like in the first Timeline I discussed, Broly missed the sun by sheer luck. Broly now gains a Zenkai and fights with them, but he gets defeated easily, thus, looking at the moon and getting a new Zenkai, and going Great Ape, they destroy the moon and he falls down, he then gets ANOTHER Zenkai and goes Super Saiyan 4. DBS Goku vs DBGT Goku. Goku (DBS) is after the Zen Exhibitions match, but Zeno wants more, so he calls in another Goku... of course, Gt Goku! and thus, they fight. (This is DBS Manga Goku, so he is significantly weaker than Anime Goku.) in the end he gets defeated by GT Goku, but in credits scene... He goes Ultra Instinct. He couldnt hold it though... Gokhan vs Buu, in this what-if, Gohan catches the Potara earring and puts it on, thus, creating Gokhan. Which is quite interesting, if you say this happened in Z, it would turn out like this: Gokhan in DBZ Buu arc, Vegito in DBS Black Arc, and Gogeta in DBSB arc. Gogeta vs Jiren, in this one, instead of relying on Goku going Ultra Instinct again, Vegeta and Goku fuse, going Super Saiyan God and spamming attacks. They end up not caring about time and go Super Saiyan Blue, but for the finishing move they screw it and go Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Kaioken. GT Goku vs Golden Freeza, this one is quite simple, dr. Gero and the other doc, create a Super Android to kill everyone, making a false alarm of Freeza and Cell being in Hell.they then vanish, as Goku would be stuck in hell forever, Goku then discovers that Freeza is there. As they fight off. In the end Freeza is far superior to Goku and defeats him, then Cell appears and absorbs Goku. Goku Black Super Saiyan 4 vs Vegeta Super Saiyan God evolution, part 3 of Goku Black trilogy, this takes place after Gohan vs Goku Black and takes place before Goku Black and Baby vs Broly- Goku Black was defeated because he didnt know Goku and Vegeta would come in the Trunks arc, but his Time Ring vanished him to THIS timeline, and he fights Vegeta to make sure he doesnt fail to defeat Trunks and Co. in the main timeline. Now for that Theory I mentioned earlier, my theory is that I think this is the same timeline as "Vegeta Super Saiyan vs Freeza", because in this timeline Vegeta is way stronger than Goku, as well as in Vegeta vs Freeza. This was my explanation of the What-if Series! Bye.
There needs to be a actual series with this man. I’d love for like a alternate GT or a alternate Super or something. Doesn’t have to have voices but if you need a voice actor I could possibly help, but please go beyond the What-If if you can, I’d love to watch
This is amazing! Love the lore and the world you've put together. 8:23 THERE'S MY BOY! He managed to pull the win against someone massively stronger than himself. What a beast. Definitely your best What If so far!
I have a theory: If What-if #14 took place before #9, and Goku black was present there without a tail, that must mean 2 possibilities: 1. Goku Black could've killed Vegeta but Vegeta sliced his tail off because Goku Black was too strong in SSJ4 2. Same as 1 but Goku Black retreats to another timeline after Vegeta sliced his tail off and he became too weak to fight him in God Evolution.
Wonderful job. The power scaling makes sense in terms of the multiverses you've created, and seeing the power scaling of the next what-if was really interesting to see. I would say the only issue in this is that you might need some proofreading in some of the summary's. I would love to help out with that if you haven't the time for yourself to proofread. Anyways, looking forward to the next one~
When poweups and new forms actually *HAVE* a reason and not just came out of thin air.... Congratulations sir, you're the only one that could've pull this off.
@Evan Morel probably But then again keep in mind,that there is such thing as "mastered SS" and since SSB is basicly is an SS version of SSG it kinda makes sense Tho i doubt "mastered SSG" can exist since SSG is basicly base form that uses God ki and there is no such thing as "mastered base",cause,well,base is already your default Mastered SSG is a cool concept tho
@@BlitzSaysHi Its probably just to tease us. He has stated in his pinned comment that its still in the making and the factors in the video was to give us an idea on what that what-if is going to be like.
Question for anyone who sees this Since new What If's have come out, and thus new characters. Where would you place them on this ranking? Those characters being: Base namek arrival Goku Goku Kaioken x3, x4, x10, x20, x30, and x40 Base "Bardock" (suppressed and full power) Super Saiyan "Bardock" Base Xeno Vegito Ikari Xeno Vegito Super Saiyan 4 Xeno Vegito Full Power SAJ4 Xeno Vegito Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Vegito And though the what if centered around these two aren't out yet, where would you roughly put Mastered UI Goku and Ultra Ego Vegeta?
Namek Goku is absolutely the weakest, and even SSJ Ginyu would barely surpass Base Vegeta. Gogeta should be roughly the same if only slightly higher, but Xeno Vegito whops the competition in his final form. As for UI Goku and UE Vegeta, I would put them just below Beerus. They have canonically not yet surpassed him. Probably between him and Baby Vegito Black
I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you for taking the time out of your life to figure this stuff out and put it all down for us to see. Thanks for doing this for us
Amazing explanation in the details regarding the power scaling. Hyourinjutsu, you're one of the greatest sprite animators, not only because of the amazing battles but for coming with great explanations for the power and the story behind too. Keep up with the great work at your own pacing. No stress or rush.
Well, *_What if #14_* will be epic. Those sneak peeks sure look great and that character info description is sweet. Hope it isn't a dark What if like *_What if #13._* Time stamps and transformations/information related to *_"What if #14."_* Vegeta SS: 2:47 Vegeta SSG: 6:56 Vegeta SSG (Evolved): 7:22 Goku Black (With tail): 3:06 Goku Black SS: 4:05 Goku Black SS (Kaio-ken): 5:50 Goku Black SS4: 6:50
TheWholeCircus well from my guess, Vegeta is gonna win the next What if, it shown if Goku Black goes Rose, he’ll still lose this one because the Goku Black In this fight takes place after What If 7, meaning he just achieved Rose and is still rusty with it. Hyourinjutsu said that Black will not be going Rose so he can exploit zenkai’s while fighting Vegeta and as it shown at the powers scaling, Vegeta in his God Evolution form seems to be higher then Goku Black on SSJ4 and Rose.
May I please have a few words with certain people here unnecessarily claiming that "Vegito should always be superior to Gogeta" and "Gogeta fanboys are just toxic"? For starters, I'd truly appreciate if nobody tried to call out toxicity on others while also feeding it yourselves, that's one of the lowest levels of hypocrisy anyone can get to, if you're against toxicity, don't just call it out, prove your point and try to understand the other side first, otherwise you'll end up becoming one of the most toxic. With that being said, no, Vegito doesn't necessarily have to always be superior to Gogeta, especially not if each fusion is taken from different eras. Now, if what you're trying to say is that Vegito is the stronger fusion, congratulations, you've pointed out the obvious, even though Hyourinjutsu had already done so, all you had to do was watch/rewatch What-If #6, it's made pretty clear there which fusion is stronger. So then, why is Gogeta #1 in this power-scaling video? Well, there are two things to consider: 1) this is Hyourinjutsu's canon, whatever he says, goes, period, which I don't even know why that would be an issue, no offense to Akira, but this canon is far superior, it's more stable and consistent, not to mention that these match-ups are excellently written and action packed, it's everything any Dragon Ball fan could want, at least in my opinion; and 2) the strongest incarnation of Vegito depicted in both Akira's canon and Hyourinjutsu's canon belongs to the Goku Black saga, while the strongest incarnation of Gogeta depicted in Hyourinjutsu's canon belongs to the Universe Survival saga, common sense will let you know that, even though Vegito is the stronger fusion, of course Gogeta will be superior to Vegito in this case, it all comes down to how strong Goku and Vegeta are in their base when they fuse, not only that, but they have superior transformations by the Universe Survival saga, so that's an even greater boost of superiority over Goku Black saga's Vegito. Wanna know something funny? Gogeta's incarnation depicted in Hyourinjutsu's canon is not only consistent with the canon he belongs to, but he's also more consistent with Akira's canon than Akira's own version of Gogeta. All you have to do is rewatch the DBS Broly movie, and then rewatch What-If #12, the realization might shock you, but Hyourinjutsu's writing makes Akira look like a Gogeta fanboy. Not once, not a single time, was the possibility of defusing even brought up during the Broly movie. Vegito, whose fusion lasts double the time of Gogeta's fusion, only lasted around 5 minutes due to power consumption from SSB, while Gogeta felt confident enough to toy around with Broly, going from base form all the way up to SSB, and by the end of the fight, we did not even get to see them defuse. That's right, their fusion lasted so long, likely all 30 minutes, that they got to defuse offscreen, just like in the original Fusion Reborn movie with Janemba. I hope that these words may have brighten up some dark spots, I'm seriously not trying to start a needless debate, and I'm definitely not feeding up the toxicity, I'm just stating the facts, and the facts don't really care about which side is in the right in any of this, they just state what things truly are, and I personally would just like for everyone to not let things like this stop any of you from enjoying such quality content that we don't get to see often anymore, actually thoughtful and outstanding content that has great effort put in it, from the visuals, to the audio, effects, soundtracks, and of course, the fantastic writing. On a side note, I was actually really hoping characters like SSJ3 GT Vegeta, SSJ4 Xeno Vegito, and numerous other characters that we haven't gotten the chance to see in any What-If's as of current day, but we did see that characters like Goku Black from What-If #9 and Golden Frieza from What-If #13 were worried about. Goku Black feared Broly would reach SSJ5 through Senkais, and Golden Frieza felt intimidated by the idea of Saiyans with levels far beyond anything imaginable, SSJ4 Vegito and Gogeta were there, SSB Vegito and Gogeta were there, SSJ4 Broly and Baby Vegito Black were there, but three characters that weren't here were in there as well, Kanba the Evil Saiyan, DBS Broly, and of course, MUI Goku, kinda wanted to see where they'd land here. Last thing, but I was honestly shocked that neither Goku nor Superman from their match-up video made it here, I was convinced that Goku was the same Goku from What-If #5, just years before, since that Goku had both SSJ4 and SSG, makes sense to me that would lead to SSGSS4, and I honestly just wanted to see where Superman would land in this video, but it is what it is, I still very much enjoyed it and I sincerely appreciate all the effort and dedication put into this content, thank you so very much, Hyourinjutsu, you deserve so much more recognition, keep it up, you'll only keep on getting better and better.
The fact you put in so much effort and work into these is just incredible. The details, factors, it's just awesome. Someone like Toei would never take the time to do this stuff. Good job, and I look forward to seeing the next what-if!
LMAOOOO The references to canon are so great here, like GT Goku's SS forms being leagues above Super and Super (Manga) Goku's, Broly noted to continuously rise in ki, Jiren obviously having the highest base power, and the sheer respect you give to Super Saiyan 4 is refreshing as always Even a subtle detail like Toriyama noting Frieza can NEVER surpass Beerus; as a result even that busted as hell Golden Fifth Form is still several tiers below Beerus.
I have no words to how amazing this simple showcase is. So well editted, so pleasing game aesthetic, so much data considered when taking each place into account... Everything is just gold!!
Hyorin, your talent genuinely leaves me speechless everytime i see something new posted, even your old stuff has aged like a fine wine, i not only love that but also your passion for dragon ball and attention to detail, it just brightens my day :>
9:35 CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT ThAT wi 13 FRIEZA WAS STRONGER THAN BASE JIREN 10:17 states that “it is possible that Frieza found a sixth transformation that has not yet to be shown” .......
Moonlight Gunvolt what dose that have to do with what I just said?I never claimed that Frieza would beat top level fusions,all I meant to do is point out a secret that hyourin hid and point out how strong that version of Frieza was.
the official power scaling of our dear 13 what if's from the man who worked on it now you deserve a break from doing this you are giving us way more stuff than Akira so my guy take a well deserved break and do whatever you want cause you deserve it
It's interesting to see characters classified like this. We can compare participants of any What-if at any time. Example: We now know that Super Buu would probably hold his ground, even against the Broly from What-if #9, and so forth. I hope you do an updated version when a few more videos are done.
Just so yall know, these video isnt power scaling the actual characters from the show. They are from his what if storys which aren't the same as the actual show. So you all can stop argueing over who was placed where.
This was brilliant!! Well thought out and just unbelievable the amount of transformations that could be. This was so well pieced together! Your content is just fabulous!
Thank you for doing this! It was such a pleasure to stop and read every panel and reflect on all of your amazing what if's! Can't wait to see more, and keep the awesome content coming! Thanks!
I just noticed this small little detail but when it proceeds to go down towards number one the up arrow and down arrow on the middle of the screen and that curved looking U there are from the Pokemon Black and White games am I correct?
From the sounds of it, #14 is just gonna be Goku Black traveling in between all of the different What Ifs, and just causing havoc for the timelines, and I love that idea.
This was a very, very, very enjoyable read! First, because I love the use of Pokémon's Generation 5 font and graphic style, always enjoyable to see, and second, because of the ranking, organization and overall presentation are just as good as seen from the few images you teased prior to the full release. This pretty much looks like something straight out of a school in the world of Dragon Ball Heroes (So, the one where people can become characters within the card games, instead of the promotional show) where humans would get like a scouter with info on every type of transformation they meet during missions, it's really fun stuff. For the rest, I'm... pretty much gonna say what everyone else says. Thank you for your hard work, this stuff is the reason we love it and I'm glad it exists. Hopefully, it'll also serve as great stepping stones for whatever art form you decide to dedicate your life to in the future. Best of luck for everything, man!
Awesome! I always loved seeing the transformation trees in some videos, but a whole video dedicated to the power levels of the What If characters is so cool and interesting for me! Really loved the presentation and effort put into this, keep up the amazing work!
I don't usually comment on videos I'm more of a passerby when it comes to videos. But damn this and all of your other videos are so well made. You are doing a fantastic job it boggles the mind just how amazing you and your team are at creating pixel art and amazing fight choreographies You have a serious talent for this the only issue I have is that you're not getting ENOUGH views for your hard work.
At the end of the Goku v Goku what if, the Goku from the Super timeline achieved ultra instinct once he had lost the fight. Though I see your point, these what ifs are really hype without any UI.
@@RamdozaCh Nah man imagine the super/gt goku fusion(that goku that expereinced both gt and super) using super saiyan 4(that at this point is near a base form) with UI.
@@Damocles107 I don't wanna be that guy, but....... If you looked closely, What if 14 is an event that took place after What if 7 (Future Gohan vs Goku Black) and before What if 9 (Black and Baby vs Broly) So.....yeah....
Hold on, in What-if #14, Goku Black's base power was more powerful than Vegeta's Super Saiyan, yet Vegeta was able to kick his butt around when using the same transformation? That's even more badass than it was in hindsight.
Honestly, that Vegeta is probably the most badass character from all these animations. Not only is he already superior to the Goku of his timeline, being chosen for the God ritual instead of him, he also faces Goku Black, who came to this timeline for just some training and to get non-fatally injured. Despite being outmatched from the very beginning, Vegeta unlocks a completely new form mid-fight, and manages to actually win the fight and force Black to run away (even though this worked for Black's long-term advantage, he 100% didn't plan on getting his ass whooped the way he did: the very fact that Vegeta survived proves that). He was basically put into a seemingly unwinnable battle, similar to Goku in What-If #13, but unlike that Goku, he actually managed to pull through with what was basically sheer determination.
@@creativename1673 Theirs a Theory Going Around as well that What if no. 4 And What if no. 14 Vegeta are From the Same Timeline but it isn't Confirmed by Hyrunjutsu.
@@rakhimitra2193 Wow, even though it's not official, that just makes him even cooler. Now I'm wondering how exactly that timeline would have went between Frieza and Black's visit.
The amount of effort and determination you have but in to make these amazing dragon ball Sprite videos is outstanding and all these transformations that go beyond our imagination and you create a great video on how the power levels with each fourm and transformation will compare to the other that takes alot of thought and yet people still have the nerve to dislike it keep up with the great content Hyourinjutsu 👍👍.
The fact that GT golden Frieza is more powerful than kaio-ken Gokhan and even base Jiren but less powerful than super sayian 4 broly while even in his fith golden form is terrifying.
I really appreciate the work behind those animations, and I would love to see those characters that you animate in a M.U.G.E.N. the idea would not be entirely bad also because it will be fantastic to see the characters you animated on youtube on our screen and play them
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