Goku: "I trust you to take over for me, son." Gohan: "I swear, I will protect the world." Goku: "No, you don't understand. You need to take over as Vegeta's sparring partner. He gets really lonely, and the only way he feels comfortable around people is if there's a fight happening." Gohan: "... That seems really unhealthy. Are you sure he's doing alright?"
@@AKnight95 Gohan: This is all so sudden... How about we talk over some literatur- Vegeta: Training begins now!! (Punch) Gohan: (Pained Noises) Vegeta: You weren't ready.
The scene in the most recent chapters of the Super manga where Vegeta is actually really excited to fight Beast Gohan b/c he recognizes his strength is so cool. Vegeta mentoring Gohan is such a cool dynamic.
As someone once said all the way back to the first episode of this what-if: Vegeta: TRAINING BEGINS NOW (Vegeta smacks Gohan) Gohan: AGH .... Vegeta: You were not ready.
"Heh...hell. After the Cell Arc, I nearly gave up fighting...that damn kakarot." "...the fuck you mean Cell Arc? What do you think this is, an anime!?"
@@DanielMWJ Still cant (and won't) defeat any main villian. Plus, you're forgetting about OGDB there was no Vegeta there. And he was originally supposed to be killed in saiyan arc but his editor and fans liked him at that time, so he was kept alive. Your theory falters at everything. He's not a mc, just a villian who turned good, like in every other anime.
Honestly Cell Vegeta didn't even trained his own damn child. If anything i would have LOVED to see Trunks be trained by Goku, imagine how POWERFUL Trunks could have gone if he was encouraged rather than pushed down.
6:15-ish. One thing I'd change here is that Vegeta would be able to offer something to really get Gohan and Chi-Chi on board. He'd simply get Bulma to pay for the BEST tutors for Gohan. He wouldn't need to learn out of books, but he'd get private lessons from the authors themselves. Like that, Chi-Chi would immediately be on board and whilst Gohan might be begrudging, he'd definitely be more interested. Also, this is my first video by you. I just had to pause and comment this, but I'm liking where this is going.
The original Vegeta wasn't all this prideless. Not wanting to ask for help was something Vegeta hated doing. Vegetas attitude change didn't happen until after going Majin.
Vegeta is a creative inventive fighter who created all his own techniques. This is Vegeta's biggest bonus, nobody taught him, he has the ability to be technical and invent combos. He is a master. Final Flash, Galick Gun, Big Bang, Final Explosion (albeit that blast is very much something anyone can do. Vegeta probably learned it from watching chiaotzu lol) But that is my point, SSJ grades 2 and 3 are practical enough forms to be utilized in certain situations that take super saiyan to a higher but more difficult to handle and maneuver multiplier. But if Vegeta used his masterful control and gained a sort of SSJ2.5, that'd be more his speed. Vegeta has been stronger than Goku just about every time they've fought. Vegeta gains power in massive bursts from pushing himself to his absolute limit, whereas Goku sort of just goes at a steady pace. That's why Vegeta gets larger more MASSIVE bursts suddenly, from Zenkai boosts and limit breaks. Goku steadily increases. So there are moments when Goku is super strong, but Vegeta is ONE training session away from surpassing him. DB super kinda sucks booty so I won't get into it, but Ultra Ego is currently stronger than Goku. I think Vegeta's SSJ3 would be MUCH stronger than Goku's. I personally believe that Vegeta is usually stronger in base than Goku. Vegeta, dealing with children and teens, would've gotten to his dad arc a lot sooner. I think Vegeta would want to learn how to balance power and family a lot sooner. Taking Bulma out, even to other planets for fun safari like trips, reminding her of the good ol' days, showing Trunks other worlds and other techniques from other planets, like how Vegeta eventually trained on Yardrat.
Until today, for me, SSJ 3 is still the coolest transformation I've ever seen. Idk why, the transformation is just longer hair and more brighter and had more electricity when they use aura, but everytime I see it, like man, I just pause the vid and look at it to draw my SSJ 3 notebook all over again.
Vegeta and piccolo are both tacticians which appeals dramatically to Gohan's sensibilities. Goku is a wild brawler, Vegeta is a planning scheming strategizing paced fighter, same thing with piccolo.
I thoroughly believe that if mr Toriyama had the chance to really make Gohan the protagonist as he wished, this - or something close to this - is how the story would go. It's perfect.
I think it would be cool if they used the second wish in battle of the gods was used to get piccolo orange sooner, maybe treating it like a ritual like ssj god
I do agree that vegeta can reach gohan in ways nobody else can. The way piccolo did when he was young except with the sayain button. Vegeta brings out the pride in gohan and gohan probably brings some of the inner peace vegeta gets now in the manga
I feel bad for chi chi of trunks timeline…she lost Goku due to the virus then as she stated “she don’t know what’d she do if she lost Gohan”….it’s crazy the set timeline was for them to die and her being a widow
@@zurrloliscracked honestly because of how dark it got in that timeline….I unfortunately wouldn’t be surprised if she took her life..not only losing her husband to where he can’t be brought back cuz of a natural cause but her only son that she was so protective of dying…it’s real sad cuz ya can feel for her, I’d assume Bulma would be there for her(and Ox king) but wow
I think Gohan would take more than Vegeta in this scenario. Vegeta would actually take the responsibility of training Gohan seriously. We can see his disappointment of gohan in the Buu saga. Vegeta would also probably not mind sparring with Gohan at all, especially knowing its the fastest way for him to obtain more power too. He enjoys sparring with Goku. I also think deep down Vegeta still thinks he is responsible for whats left of the sayians.
Vegeta: "If you don't train with me, I'll blow up this miserable planet and everyone on it." Gohan: "I know that's a bluff, Vegeta." Vegeta: "I threatened your father with this, it wasn't a bluff then." Gohan: "But you've changed. You're no longer the ruthless, uncaring warrior you used to be." Vegeta: "You're right. I HAVE changed. But I WAS that way. And so was Cell. What will you do the next time someone threatens the planet? Appeal to their better nature? Hope the Dragon Balls can fix it? Wait for someone else to come help you? Kakarot won't be coming to your aid." Gohan: "Don't speak about my dad in that tone." Vegeta: "Do you remember Guldo, the frog-face member of the Ginyu Force? How helpless you were against him. You and the cueball. It wasn't your own strength that saved you that day. It wasn't your own strength that stopped Recoome from killing you." Gohan: "..." Vegeta: "The Namekian died to protect you from Nappa. You needed to wait for your father to come to the rescue." *Gohan remains silent, clearly disturbed by this* Vegeta: "I fight, and I train to become the strongest. Never again will I live under the rule of another, never again will I be subjugated. You never had to become stronger to protect yourself, you always had someone else do it for you. And now you are gifted with the power to protect those YOU care about. You can let it wither and fade, because you don't have any pride in your Saiyan heritage, but you would be inviting disaster to your loved ones. The day you fall, you could stand only tall enough to tell them that you held fast to your dreams of non-violence. Ask your dying comrades if that gives them comfort. Train with me. Train if only to protect the weak that would fall if you do not."
I mean chi-chi might be slightly less angry as if he spending a lot of time with Vegeta he might have assess to the teachings and resources of the Briefs family
@33NitinChhangani8d Basically, it means "your opinion is amazing/you have great taste" the opposite of based is cringe. so cringe means "your opinion is so awful/you have very bad taste"
yeah this start is nothing like Vegetas mindset. hes not going to ask someone to help him like that even if he acknowledges that it would be the best and easier way to get to ssj 2
You know, it kinda bothered me now that I think about it. Vegeta wasnt just getting stronger for Goku's return, he found value in maintaining and expanding one's strength to ensure peace can still be kept. But then again, Vegeta probably didnt see it as his responsibility.
The thing that gets me is that Vegeta has to be the worst person to train with possible. It took him 7 years to gain SSJ2, and even then Goku had to hold back to not hurt his feelings. His own son (from the future) ended up learning Full Power Super Saiyan 2 which rivaled SSJ3 in less years than it took for him to learn 2! He has the be the sorriest Saiyan when it comes to training himself because if you look at the gains he actually gets. If he trained correctly he would be beyond Goku by a massive margin.
The plot needed to be the way it happened because then it led Gohan on a path to achieving unlocked potential Kai boost as his true form. His Saiyan heritage was the start of his path and his Ultimate & Beast Forms he achieved are his new future.
It made no sense they didn't do this. There would definitely have been way more enthusiasm about Gohan taking over as the main character if they didn't just skip those 7 years and actually showed Gohan growing up like they did with Goku.
The first sparring match between vegeta and gohan wouldve been more fair if Gohan just fought vegeta in ssj grade 4 instead of ssj2. His grade 4 was still more powerful than vegeta at the time
As a whole you did an excellent job. I'm not sure I agree with Black Hit since the entire inspiration for Zamaso was being pissed about a mortal more powerful than he was yadda yadda. I might have given Cell Max a serious story boost just because he did kinda get done dirty in the movie and I haven't read the manga version of it yet. I would have LOVED for a return of True Cell and that would probably have made a better final boss than this. You don't always have to go to the end of the current cannon or eve keep things in the same order. REmember in Trunk's Timeline Buu (Well Babbidi) didn't show up for more than a decade later than he did in ours. PResumably because Babbidy came to drain a Super Saiyan 2 Tier warrior or at least a full Earth. With the Androids killing as many people as they did and Trunks being the only warrior worth a damn left. . .just food for thought there. You really did Frieza dirty though. I mean why even bother giving him the Black Form if he's just gonna get punked. You didn't even have it seem like he ever had a chance and frankly Frieza, assuming the characters were within any reason of where they are in cannon would have been a real problem. He should still be able to probably one hit KO Goku and Vegetta but even being able to push one of them off significantly would be enough. Granola is immortal and frankly its not clear how immortal, immortal actually is BUT Frieza is more than smart enough to use that force ball thing he did on Goku and just launch Granola into space. Sure he'll be be back eventually but in a 5v1 fight if I can eliminate one guy for 10 minutes that's a helluva victory even if I just run away again. Either way Frieza is way too big a deal to get killed like this. This is almost as bad as when Ichigo's dad killed King Fisher over on Bleach. Like that Hollow had been built up as uber powerful and. . .yeah the plot marched so far past him that he did go out like a chump but still. That was sad.
I kinda want to see salad try to do a what if that is just madness Cell prime was specific madness I want to see some crazy stuff that isn't Goku being trapped in the hbtc What if Goku, vegeta, gohan, goten, and trunks had Legendary super sayain? What if every sayain went super sayain against freeza What if Every DB-Dbs villain fused What if jiren was gokus dad
To be honest, we should’ve done that probably he won’t do it as often with Gohan just to keep him up and his fighting skills and him as well, but he would go on space to concentrate on his school and would’ve done that over the weekend or whenever he was done with this homework
I had this idea a long time , i thought that kind of alternative reality wouldve made them strong but i guess gohan was busy studying and didnt make time for training ,he couldve trained with vegeta which eventually goten couldve too while making time for school
