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What if VTEC Was Always On? 

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When VTEC kicks in and your head slightly hits the headrest.
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@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 месяцев назад
A few people have asked if it's possible to make the low-cam and high-cam VVT tunes "closer" together to get rid of that little dip in airfow, and the answer is yes! We could just make the tunes closer together in the VVL changeover area so the cams don't have to "catch up". We could also make a single VVT tune that takes the best of both graphs as well, which is totally fine! Many ways to tune a car! However, if I'm being honest, I just turned VVT off as I wasn't really seeing all that many gains, especially now that this car is supercharged. Glad you all are enjoying the video, and hopefully learning from it!
@DOAHunt3r
@DOAHunt3r 10 месяцев назад
Something else to think about is that VVT should also change with respect to load. At part throttle you want EGR to reduce emissions and more knock margin.
@sushpants
@sushpants Год назад
That was an awesome video to watch. I never thought of using the MAF as makeshift dyno! My jaw dropped at the amount of time you must have put into putting this video together. The quality really shows.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Год назад
That poor engine has seen pull after pull since I swapped it in. It seems to be holding up well all things considered
@operator8014
@operator8014 11 месяцев назад
Mass air flow combined with exhaust gas temperature and should tell you exactly how much power the engine is producing. Based on the difference between fuel usage vs heat production.
@valian8985
@valian8985 11 месяцев назад
Prety smart
@aBlandAviator
@aBlandAviator Год назад
Great content, not overly simplified and still easily digestible 👍
@garrettjessen1942
@garrettjessen1942 Год назад
Couldn’t agree more, great video
@sargentthiccboi9333
@sargentthiccboi9333 11 месяцев назад
This is literally the best guide for tuning I’ve ever seen. It actually feels like I can go and tune my car
@TheRyansLion
@TheRyansLion 11 месяцев назад
As a Honda guy, it drives me up the wall when people say “Every car nowadays has VVT, VTEC is nothing different”. Great video by the way!
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 11 месяцев назад
I mean… sure… but it’s not like Honda VTEC makes Honda engines anything special from a performance perspective. In fact I have a Civic but the only thing is has is VVT plus a nice turbo. Tiny 1.5L engine but full torque at 1800 RPM. I cruise in 6th gear at any speed above 40 MPH. Go up hills in 6th. Pass in 6th. Pass going up hills in 6th. I’d much rather have that than having to double downshift to kick in VTEC, yo… any time I want to do something.
@colinpouliot42
@colinpouliot42 11 месяцев назад
this guy doesnt like exhaust noises and downshifts to feel like a racer
@TheRyansLion
@TheRyansLion 11 месяцев назад
@@Bartonovich52 it’s far more usable but loses a lot of character
@2strokeFORever
@2strokeFORever 11 месяцев назад
​@@Bartonovich52L15s suck. Anything more than bolt ons and all that low end torque is why the rods break
@mikeshock7265
@mikeshock7265 Год назад
Love your videos, tuning content on youtube in a digestible format to a newbie is a rarity, and thats exactly what you provide. Thank you very much.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Год назад
I'm glad you found it valuable. More to come!
@lamboferruccio
@lamboferruccio Год назад
Dude that is the best explanation I’ve heard/seen of VTEC/VVT ever and I’ve been through training of this stuff in the past, you definitely have a gift my friend 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼
@ilovehappyemos
@ilovehappyemos Год назад
If you have the piston to valve clearance, you could try running the intake cams one tooth off on the belt. Not sure what kind of change in cam timing that would net, but with the small gains down low, and the bigger gains up high from the lower LSA, you may find some more free power up there. This is pure theory and something I've never considered, but looking at your graphs, it may benefit your particular setup. Great content! hope this channel blows up, love the work.
@h3xd3m0n9
@h3xd3m0n9 10 месяцев назад
Advancing intake valves helps low end retarding them top end. A tooth would be close to 8 degrees of crankshaft rotation
@AstekOst
@AstekOst 11 месяцев назад
I don't think you understand how well this video was made, this is your masterpiece right here, easy to follow for those without much knowledge and those who ''know it all'', it's pretty much a tutorial for getting the max amount of power out of a stock-ish N/A engine even though it wasn't meant to be that :D Earned yourself a sub, awesome work buddy, keep it up
@peterparadis6788
@peterparadis6788 6 месяцев назад
Please change nothing about your channel. This is my new obsession. Easily my favorite car channel. This channel is going to take off. Don't change a thing.
@TheWoebegoneJackal
@TheWoebegoneJackal 11 месяцев назад
You've made tuning my ecu seem a lot less intimidating, this was amazing!
@Imnotthefed
@Imnotthefed 7 месяцев назад
Another banger video from blackthumb. Just when I think it can’t get better you do it again.
@kfpperth575
@kfpperth575 Год назад
first time seeing your channel pop up on my feed. I must say your content is amazing. you make things so easy to understand and answer our questions before we even ask them. you've definitely earned a sub from me 👍
@JFish5
@JFish5 Год назад
You my man are making the biggest fucking difference in me trying to learn tuning
@josephpetruccio7306
@josephpetruccio7306 11 месяцев назад
I love the graphs. Love the “whaaa” noise you make during the pulls. It gives Richard Holdener vibes
@TheDivergentDrummer
@TheDivergentDrummer Год назад
Dude! this is an eff'n awesome video. Straight, to the point, clearly illustrated. Thanks.
@xbox230
@xbox230 Год назад
Love the way you teach everything, the driving process and the graphing data makes it better to understand
@akupehsluarketatAR
@akupehsluarketatAR 10 месяцев назад
Now i really get to see wat changes vvt n vtec does to the engine and what tuners were lookin for on their laptop. 22mins of explanation dats clear as day. Sub!
@danielsigursson6215
@danielsigursson6215 11 месяцев назад
Excellent explanation on how VVL and VVT work and how to tune for optimum power. Also it was quite amazing how much info you could pull from the MAF.
@TheGorillaBiker
@TheGorillaBiker 5 месяцев назад
You are fast becoming one of my favourite channels on here, I'll have to try make my fb25 manual slightly less horrible down low, it feels like it's tuned from factory for a CVT, I definitely think it can be smoothed out at minimum.
@levibeatson3247
@levibeatson3247 Год назад
Wow I’ve had to endure some pretty complicated explanations around VVL and this one video knocked it out of the park! I’ve got a Primera that comes with Nissans version of VTEC (NEO-VVL) and the things I’ve learned (minus the timing, which isn’t applicable since Neo VVL doesn’t incorporate timing on the SR20VE) are things I’m gonna have to figure out when I go to get my car tuned later on this year, this video’s helped me gain a bit of confidence around making sure I get the most out of my engine. Definitely earned a subscription from me! Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Год назад
Glad I could help!
@Zxcbxbxjdjsxj
@Zxcbxbxjdjsxj 10 месяцев назад
Thank God RU-vid put you in my suggestions list
@markvicferrer
@markvicferrer 10 месяцев назад
Such a clear explanation of how things work & methodology that takes into account every variable. Amazing work.
@tumerhorloev6950
@tumerhorloev6950 Год назад
Amazing work. You definitely need more views, all the videos on this channel are great for that matter
@JasonLuther1
@JasonLuther1 Год назад
Glad i discovered this channel. Great content. You present it in a way you can just listen if needed. Great work
@ncaquatic
@ncaquatic 11 месяцев назад
That was the most I’ve ever learned in 1 RU-vid video… maybe more than I’ve learned in 10 years of wondering what both these things do! Awesome work, certainly subscribing. Also… do a raptor supercharger kit on the EZ30R!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 месяцев назад
Check the latest video on this car, I did something arguably better 😉
@ayanami808
@ayanami808 11 месяцев назад
Underrated channel right here.
@mastercricket7626
@mastercricket7626 10 месяцев назад
Best breakdown of the two i have seen brotha ... much respect n you just got a new sub 🤘🏾
@TheAnonymous1one
@TheAnonymous1one 7 месяцев назад
This guy is hilarious. Great video and info!
@nikkosoriano
@nikkosoriano 11 месяцев назад
Sir, you just earned another subscriber. I would say that you deserve even more. Great explanation! Simple and easy to understand. 👏🏻
@BobSaget-gf9qx
@BobSaget-gf9qx Год назад
Amazing video !!! Fav channel period.
@craigkendell5706
@craigkendell5706 11 месяцев назад
This was a thing that came out in the late 90s it's called a killer cam, it deletes the smaller lobe from the cam only activating "vtec"
@paulboissiere1278
@paulboissiere1278 11 месяцев назад
I absolutely LOVE your content.
@alexmaccity
@alexmaccity 11 месяцев назад
If VTEC was always on there would be no wait for the VTEC to kick in
@cartler
@cartler 11 месяцев назад
This is the exact video I was looking for. Nice one!
@vaultofnoah3903
@vaultofnoah3903 11 месяцев назад
This might be the best video relating to airflow and tuning I’ve ever seen. Like I feel like I could go out and do some of this tuning myself… and have fun. Great video
@SwannyRiv
@SwannyRiv 11 месяцев назад
Awesome video man, you WILL blow up soon.
@pruvengsx1
@pruvengsx1 10 месяцев назад
Great video bro, thanks for making it very detailed with knowledge
@tommybronze3451
@tommybronze3451 11 месяцев назад
technically speaking, V-tec gives you THREE different camshafts in one, phase one - first valve barely opens while second one opens normally, second phase - first valve starts to open the same as second one did, third phase - both valves start following a third cam - which gives if ample of overlap and you can yell "VTEC KICKED IN YO"
@blknightsixtyfo
@blknightsixtyfo 11 месяцев назад
The first few seconds of engine idle had me crying almost no a mindgasm I had a mindgasm oh my God Honda I love you
@applewillance3276
@applewillance3276 4 месяца назад
Fun fact, 3 manufacturer share the same sort of VVL system, Subaru, Porsche and Proton.
@kyleinwisc
@kyleinwisc 11 месяцев назад
These are great car videos. Great explanations dawg
@DrinkinDaJuice
@DrinkinDaJuice 11 месяцев назад
It would be even wheezier than usual. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@Adrian-re9fh
@Adrian-re9fh 4 месяца назад
Great video bro, I subscribed as fast as vtec kicked in yo!
@StripeTheFerret
@StripeTheFerret 9 месяцев назад
How do you have such a small amount of subscribers? I just came across your channel but you definitely deserve more. I’m sure you will be at 1 million subs in a year or so. 🔥😎💪🏼, you are very informal. Keep up the good work Homie.
@abrahamsanchez2197
@abrahamsanchez2197 11 месяцев назад
Dude. I will TRAVEL to you just to take a beginners course on tuning. The way you explain is SO UNDERSTANDABLE.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if I'm a compitent enough tuner at this point for something like that, but maybe one day I can do some videos on that.
@Muszkato
@Muszkato 10 месяцев назад
That's awesome content. Explain actually everything. Great job 💪
@gangamiin
@gangamiin 10 месяцев назад
Love this video! I've learned something and I'm clueless as well! Subscribed
@-Just_Justin-
@-Just_Justin- 11 месяцев назад
As a fellow avid enthusiast, I truly appreciate the amount of information provided in this video.
@aidanstubblebine2197
@aidanstubblebine2197 11 месяцев назад
dear god man this was incredible to witness.. you explain things so clearly
@ISR403
@ISR403 11 месяцев назад
Gosh I love learning
@tundadwookee7093
@tundadwookee7093 11 месяцев назад
“Dragging a shovel down the driveway” great analogy! Lmao
@twizz420
@twizz420 11 месяцев назад
VVT kicks ass. Run 87 when you're broke and 95 when you're not.
@tylerwatts1004
@tylerwatts1004 Год назад
Brilliant explanation on the AVCS (VTEC) behaviour! One thought, why not bring forward the cam advance slightly so the delay happens before the VTEC kicks in?
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Год назад
That's one potential solution. In the current tune, though, I just disable AVCS entirely as it didn't really have any substantial gains, as we saw.
@Rawllsteez
@Rawllsteez 11 месяцев назад
My tuner lowered VTEC engagement and yes the cross over was smoother and less pronounced this video brings me some joy knowing I'm probably picking up some hp even tho I'm losing the big cross over.
@zrwn
@zrwn 10 месяцев назад
That was so informative and quite digestible for an idiot like me. Thk you for this! Subscribed!
@charlesz25
@charlesz25 11 месяцев назад
Amazing video man, this is wildly insughtful. Thank you! Will binge watch your videos now
@avsti
@avsti 11 месяцев назад
This was so cool to watch!!! Inspirational lol. *opens EcuFlash for my SJ Forester*
@LaunchBuilt
@LaunchBuilt 11 месяцев назад
Definitely can tell the effort put in this video. Thank you 🥹
@lucasdetex8703
@lucasdetex8703 10 месяцев назад
The MAF graph is a game changer.
@kormysh8
@kormysh8 10 месяцев назад
Okkkkkay. Dude. Yes. Very imformative! Awsome work. Instant subscribe bruv 👌👌
@STAY-GOLD-VINYL
@STAY-GOLD-VINYL 11 месяцев назад
Keep at it BlackThumb! Your a great deal of importance to the RU-vid car community even with a smaller following. Your style and wealth of knowledge is what TUNES us in. Your going to get big on the Tube soon enough! Collaborate if you can to get your bitchin channel out to the masses!!
@rickyboostedhonda27
@rickyboostedhonda27 11 месяцев назад
I’m the racing scene they lock VTEC so it’s always on.
@tannpants9532
@tannpants9532 Год назад
I like to listen to you speak. Good vid as usual.
@herniagaming
@herniagaming 11 месяцев назад
vtec is vvt_L is variable valve timing which controls the duration of the intake and exhaust valves in response to throttle to deliver more accurate power and lower fuel use in low throttle input. the L aspects stands for Lift and further increases the effectiveness of vvt by being able to alter the valve lift to physically allow for even more air to enter in and out of the combustion chambers with an added increase in fuel which is regulated by the ecu in response to the increased air flow. This creates even more power than just vvt at a high throttle input and better fuel economy at low throttle input. Ingenious system that can make small displacement car produce adequate and accurate power and further increase in lower fuel use. Really important system in automotive engineering and is responsible for the cars we know today.
@rjnorris197
@rjnorris197 11 месяцев назад
Great video !!! I just wanted to see a final pull
@robotman3474
@robotman3474 11 месяцев назад
Subscribed cuz of this video, first one I’ve seen from you too! Make more videos like this G
@albertomanzo5334
@albertomanzo5334 11 месяцев назад
Blackthumb got my thumb up. Channel is so underrated.
@bitmor2628
@bitmor2628 11 месяцев назад
That was awesome. So helpful.
@gregmaggert8561
@gregmaggert8561 Год назад
Anything Honda or VTEC related is going to blow up (not the engine, your video) Good choice and content as always. Love it
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV Год назад
No no, you had it right. I blow up engines too. A real jack or all trades
@gregmaggert8561
@gregmaggert8561 Год назад
@@BlackthumbTV and that's what we's appreciates about you
@wailingalen
@wailingalen 11 месяцев назад
Subbed and liked my man. Great informative no bs video. Thanks you
@speed488
@speed488 11 месяцев назад
First video I've seen on this channel. Fantastic content and I love the hands on approach with the actual data. Subscribed!
@knuffelbeer93
@knuffelbeer93 10 месяцев назад
Awesome information, and brought in an understandable way. Epic video❤
@moneyshifters
@moneyshifters Год назад
From one small yt to another. Good shit, keep it up
@patrickvonburger7444
@patrickvonburger7444 10 месяцев назад
when the vvt-Li kicks in
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 11 месяцев назад
damn it I think I learned how to tune an ecu by watching these next: need to find a video on how carburetor tuning works lol
@connoisseuroftigolbitts
@connoisseuroftigolbitts 11 месяцев назад
I remember back in the days when guys would add a button to vtec this was in the early 2000s Crazy stuff I wonder what happened to that tech
@86caliente_18
@86caliente_18 11 месяцев назад
Yes we wired up a manual toggle switch in the car to the vtec solenoid, and we could hit vtec anytime you wanted to. I remember popping that switch later at like 6800 rpm and that VTEC sound hit like a bomb ! Sounded mean af didn't do sh*t for power tho lol
@connoisseuroftigolbitts
@connoisseuroftigolbitts 11 месяцев назад
@@86caliente_18 lol
@noahwyatt9260
@noahwyatt9260 11 месяцев назад
Brother I just found you and I watched the whole video and immediately subbed. Awesome, clear and very informative video
@donovanlucibello379
@donovanlucibello379 7 месяцев назад
This is amazing content!
@le.farquad608
@le.farquad608 11 месяцев назад
This was a fantastic video, and made tuning seem a little more simpler. I thanks you sir. Also VTEC on a Boxer engine is bad ass. As a Honda enjoyer, it's really cool. Not mad at all.
@bakermrad
@bakermrad 10 месяцев назад
This was amazing
@t-mo.
@t-mo. Год назад
well done man. blew my mind when you said you made your own program just for the graphs of this video lol
@ZheikoNileth
@ZheikoNileth 11 месяцев назад
This video has 100% earned you my like and sub! This is absolutely amazing and brings a bit closer the magic the tuners do on the dyno. Would be amazing to see a series called 'Tuning your car for dummies 1-2-3' or something. I would 100% watch all of it and tune my own Mitsu Colt based on knowledge from you!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if I'm a compitent enough tuner to do so at this point, but maybe one day!
@ZheikoNileth
@ZheikoNileth 11 месяцев назад
@@BlackthumbTV I will be waiting, and watching all your vids in the meantime :)
@cronicjohnson
@cronicjohnson 11 месяцев назад
I learned a lot thank you
@willtuttle6593
@willtuttle6593 11 месяцев назад
Subbed. Reminds me of my old 01 Legacy GT wagon, man, the primitive shit we used to have to do then versus now. I remember when the rs25 guys and I-speed launched an ecu swap in like 2006 and the pinouts didn't match, one was a Unisia Jecs and the other was a Denso ECU I think... (I did have two moonroofs and a factory rear lsd which the same era impreza rs didn't, lol)
@k3vinl85
@k3vinl85 11 месяцев назад
This was just recommended to me this morning for the sake of the algorithm I figured I would let you know lol. Very interesting video my man, I subbed and shared with all my buddies. Cheers!
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 месяцев назад
You're a legend, thank you!
@HuntersHunt
@HuntersHunt 11 месяцев назад
Already you are twisting my arm here but I’m gonna go ahead and subscribe
@randomshitbekker
@randomshitbekker 11 месяцев назад
Love your work. Very well done
@Poprocker
@Poprocker 11 месяцев назад
First vtec and vvt engines, can’t wait for turbocharged and supercharged engines
@foxisretrofitting4556
@foxisretrofitting4556 11 месяцев назад
Beautifully done!
@avengetupac4951
@avengetupac4951 11 месяцев назад
amazing content, really appreciate you helping me learn
@JHERI493
@JHERI493 11 месяцев назад
This man needs a dyno, I’d love to have my crosstrek tuned by you!! Edit: Subscribed
@man.and.machines
@man.and.machines 11 месяцев назад
I’d like to see a video like this regarding the MAF, but with a turbo and boost added to the tuning aspect, and how boost affects AVLS/AVCS.
@BlackthumbTV
@BlackthumbTV 11 месяцев назад
If I didn't supercharge the build I'd be all for it. Boost would change the airflow quite a lot, so at that point a dyno may be preferable
@championxxlNL
@championxxlNL 11 месяцев назад
Actually vtec is variabel valve timing and lift electronically controlled. So it's lift and timing
@AdinSLaboy
@AdinSLaboy 10 месяцев назад
Great video I am a new subscriber and your videos are fire the way u explained it every details set by step
@shtboxyj8406
@shtboxyj8406 11 месяцев назад
I was going to use this maf idea to tune spark in my ls swapped grand wagoneer. Same idea more g/s=more power.
@therealjesus_27
@therealjesus_27 11 месяцев назад
great video very good explanation keep it up
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 11 месяцев назад
20:48 if you were feeling brave, you could try mechanically retarding your intake camshaft from the stock timing position and then use the VVT phaser to make adjustments for the low rpm ranges
@Callagwhan
@Callagwhan 11 месяцев назад
This Sounds Like the Best idea haha
@freddieastaire6312
@freddieastaire6312 Год назад
Quality Content 👍👍👍 You just gained another subscriber!
@jizburg
@jizburg 11 месяцев назад
To avoid that dip you could gradualy let the VVT kick in. In like 5 degree jumps or something.
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