What If We Gave Kleber A 9km Radar? - Gdansk First Impressions 

Buddy WG for once did something "right" as Poland before ww2 have orderd from France 2 Burrasque dd , then 2 dd from UK Blyskawica & Grom , and before start of ww2 Poland started to build 2 more Blyskawica destroyers , and there was plans to build larger destroyers with France , but after war Poland fall in to soviet zone , so instead Poland got soviet dd ... and plans that Polish navy had before war where grand , 14 destroyers , 6 cruisers and 4 battleships .

Bruh who hurt you

Lmao

@@adammarcinkowski-ko3elhave a nice day

Sea-lice had no problem with it........WG balanz.

Well. She is quite bigger and has waay worse speed and I think worse rudder. And no AP to punish Broadside. But she gets smoke + radar so busted beyond any measure regardless

Marceau has 25k more dpm... also this has no ap, big downside. but yea this is pretty powerful especially with the 2nd highest fire per min.

@@xyonix5193 But Marceau has difficult time to hit due to bad balistic while this thing has Delny/Kleber balistic.

Can’t wait to get this one.

it makes complete sense, because C in wargaming stands for Consistency

It's not really true. We have other ships names like Ślązak or Kaszub that come from polish subcultures, and there are ships named after animals - Kormoran, Mewa, Orzeł etc. There are also ship names that come after cities, though these are usually transporters/sea mine ships (Lublin, Toruń, Kraków). I would say that only the most famous ships are named after weather conditions, and these are only the three you've pointed out. And since we don't have a "high tier" ship in Poland it makes sense that its name comes after a weather condition but I am not particularly mad about using a coastal city for the name. I would prefer something like a geographical region like Kaszuby or and animal like Żubr (Just like a name of a famous polish beer!)

@@AdamWieczorek-Vetinari I agree, modern standards for naming ships are completely different, but wargaming specifically mentioned 30's as the time period this destroyer was 'planned' to be completed, thus they should stick (again, consistancy!!!) to the historic formula; from the official Wiki: [...] Poland designed the "crusader" ship class-large destroyers that would be capable of taking on even light cruisers. In the late 1930s, several projects for such ships were being considered in Gdynia. PS. I completely agree with You, Żubr sounds amazing for a tier X ship

Ok buddy Gdansk was "free city" there was Polish post office there ! , and they fought fought valiantly against nazi ... before ww2 Poland named destroyers after weather conditions , but after ww2 two last Polish destroyers was named ORP Warszawa ... and as a Pole I am happy they named T10 DD Gdansk ... not Danzig in German line , they did such stunt with Elbing = Elblag , or Pommern that is pomorze and is mostly in Poland . (BTW there was one battleship named after Polish city SMS Posen ...)

​@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el Idk, it makes sense for German ships to have a German name. Polish ship would be Lwów, not Lviv, and it would be Kopernik, not Copernicus. And I think that it's not really important if a paper ship has proper name, historical accuracy should be limited to historical ships, and then it should be limited to when gameplay is not broken by it. Imagine having a modern ship with like 2 "Phalanx" AA guns - even if they would do much damage, but would be destroyed by first 2 shells that hit them, leaving ship completely defenseless. The same way ships that historically had no ASW or high caliber. should have ASW or high caliber if it makes them more fun or fair or playable. And by the same logic I think it's more important that a ship has a cool name, than if it's accurate or plausible (Puerto Rico is probably the least plausible name for an Alaska-class ship but it's more cool than Hawaii for example - but still should be Oregon), so Gdańsk fits me perfectly - although still, huge missed opportunity of a Żubr beer crossover like they do with transformers or azur lane. After all, Wargaming's Cinematic Universe is a cool place - nations still using real warships in current year instead of spawncamping everyone with nuclear submarines - much better gameplay.

I guess they are always drunk

Also responsible for the monnstrosity that is St. Vincent

Reading your post I can't believe you can play, PR1000 or less I bet... :D I often find myself destroying Marceau, for example, with shimakaze cannons, because it gets into a fight at too long a distance, and shimakaze, has much faster projectiles and more powerful guns. And as we know, we don't win by reload time, but by hitting the target :D So shima needs a cannon nerf?:D On the 2nd battle, you can also see how a Z-52 in smoke is destroyed from a torpedo (with hydro!). Maybe it needs to be improved e.g. hopping under the spacebar key? Preferably automatic, because the tomatoes won't do anything anyway, they'll just shoot their beak from the AP at the battleship :D

@@vito74m if the Marceau player does not have a skill issue i wouldnt be that easy. I played almost 400 games on Atlanta and i always build dds like this into range monsters with 16,5km range and have no problem hitting at all. I did it on Friesland and Marceau

@@rekitheplayer8793 I'll take the kleber and show me how from atlanta you hit me :D Well, and 400 battles is as much as nothing. And show me the link, I'll see the stats on your Atlanta:) And if klebez too strong, I'll take Blyskawica... In the distance, kleber will play the marceau. Talk about a good player. Or I Delny you marceau? and the number of battles is not an indicator of skill, you can have 20k and still have pr 900.

Nah, smalland is still pretty busted with second highest gun dpm of dd's in-game and supersonic long range torps but I do agree this thing is pretty broken too

it's a 3 second delay (unless WG changed it very recently) and the ship shows instantly on mini map, aim from the mini map for first volley and it's a moot point.

easy: do not spend a dime on this game. money spend in games should have some sort of payback in fun, this game nowadays not only is not fun it is frustrating at best thus imo deserves 0 money spent. your average 60% WR 5-6 years playing this game noob in case you want to validate my opinion

I think the short answer is the only thing worth money if you _realllllllly_ want to spend it is premium time. Definitely not the battle pass or any containers. Maybe maybe a specific ship after you have played quite a bit and know you want to have a high tier credit/captain farmer and see one you like. Coal you get moderately quickly from daily containers and steel you get slowly from playing ranked.

Agree, more radars is a poor WG move, however to make it stealth radars is just stupid of WG for a gunboat like this.

Dazzle skill. It needs a buff though, like +50% dispersion if radar'd.

In CB you call out your radar prior to using it, hopefully. Additionally it's a 3 second delay and the ship shows instantly on mini map, aim from the mini map for first volley and it's a moot point.

I see what you did there

You could put Lütjens on it :')

@@Rio_1111 In typical WG fashion, they'd balance it around him.

@@jakubslavik5595 likely

Do you grind with coop? Is it more consistent than random battles? havent played in a while

@@Stavrosstavrosstavros I will often commit to 5000 XP a day in co-op, takes me 4 or 5 battles per day, but they are usually almost all victories so they all count toward battle pass daily chains. It takes much longer to do the grind but it's far less stressful and I get more enjoyment out of each ship. When I'm within 30-40K of the end for long grinds, that's when I put on the blue boosters and go to Randoms. If I ground out everything hardcore in Randoms at maximum speed, I'd soon run out of credits to buy the ships! This way I have plenty of time to build up more, playing e.g. coal premiums in between.

@@Ensign_Cthulhu yeah i will try this cause randoms were pretty upsetting when i used to play

Such a low duration radar is not a problem. I prefer this instead of new gunboat or hydro DD copy line

@@ReDiR20 i do agree that black is a lot worse because you cannot counter it at all if you dont have radar or hydro (like you would have in german dds or friesland) but i think they shouldve had 7.5km range because wooster is just crying in the corner

​@@ReDiR20This thing is already an insane gunboat. It doesn't need radar. And it's toxic

@@ReDiR20 In competitive even a radar to spot the location of ships is really impactful, especially on a ship which doesn't compromise DPM, range or torps

​@@ReDiR20 even the presence of ships with radar equiped massively change the dynamic of dd's on that flank. It could be a 3 second radar and people are going to avoid caps for fear of getting spotted and taking free damage for 0 gain.

That is very true and means for non clan games its more of a help to only you. For top tier clans all clued up the radar will be awesome. Also the radar has a lot of usefulness outside of killing enemy dds, eg enemy dd will not push/cap/spot as well because of the "what if he radars" and the info your team gets from your radar on a enemy flank sneaking torp dd is precious.

Realistically you would play this as a gunboat and start opening up on a DD you already have spotted and the radar would be to keep them visible if they try to smoke and escape. It's a finishing move basically. You wouldn't usually pop it randomly and hope people see something.

@@Cloudman572 but this is the WOWS player base we are talking about here….

@@MattH88S but this is the WOWS player base we are talking about here….

it's a 3 second delay (unless WG changed it very recently) and the ship shows instantly on mini map, aim from the mini map for first volley and it's a moot point.

Wouldn't mind a radar or heal on it. I still love playing gearing no matter what tho

Or they could nerf some of the dds out there but know that ain't happening

couple patches. goes into early access tomorrow.

The best cruiser farmer in DD slot and is the most survivable DD

add a gearing for the super smoke screen.....menace

Nah. IFHE on 139’s with 23mm pen won’t break 32mm why would you half the fire chance for

​@@Nick-wh4jt Especially when the Gdansk has one of the highest fires per minute for a DD in the game.

@@trust_me_i_lie5749 it might get to 25mm pen or similar but it still doesn’t justify halving the fire chance. That’s it bread and butter and it doesn’t have any AP to fall back on

​@@Nick-wh4jt Exactly

I would spec into full fire and dpm build with some range. It has good shell velocity so shouldn’t be so hard to hit targets at range. Build into what it’s good at. Looks to be quite a large destroyer, might be easy to hit at closer range and the torpedos are nothing to rave about. If you’re halving the fire chance and wasting captain points on IFHE you’re just making the destroyer less effective no doubt about it

Maybe in Javanese. Is that a language in Java island?

yes, i don't know why WG named it this or it's just a coincidence

Bisa ae lu bang

@@faryg5026 Gdańsk is a Polish city.

​@@faryg5026 They named it Gdańsk because that's a port city in Poland and in wows it's a Polish ship

Subs heavy breathing

Orkan doesn't have smoke

@@lucidnonsense942 I thought he was talking about radar