What is a Surveillance Radar Approach?

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To help out an air traffic controller who was undergoing training, I flew a Surveillance Radar Approach at Southend.
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31 мар 2020

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Комментарии : 53

@adjo82 3 года назад

Great to see that control also get practice time in with GA pilots who are also practicing.

@TheMicroPilot 4 года назад

I just love your editing style, still trying to perfect my own. Nice live video the other day Jon!

@davidcartwright5591 4 года назад

I remember the days when SRA was commonplace . I used to listen on my trusty airband receiver to Birmingham Approach giving SRA instructions many years ago before the ILS was operational . I have to admit , I didn’t realise SRA was still available . I’m now living in Sydney where a similar system known as PRM approaches are carried out . I love your videos and the information and knowledge i gain is invaluable . Cheers John , stay safe and healthy , we are entering unknown territory .

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks David.

@michaelsummers9579 4 года назад

I used to do my SRA’s into Stanstead back in the 70’s. Not a big international hub in those days. ILS’s were done at Luton £10 for three approaches, lot of money in those days. Great video & fond memories Jon. 👍

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks for watching Michael.

@lugash4 4 года назад

SRA's the controller would have a dedicated frequency and would concentrate only on that one inbound a/c they would not be expected to control other a/c as well.......so contact would be initially with APP CTR then over to RADAR CTR (years ago it was called "Talk Down" procedure.......in the late 1960's and early 70'6 that was common at LUT in bad wx......the days of Court Line, Monarch, Dan-Air, Britannia, Aer Turas Ireland, Germanair ....memories. Thanks for the upload good practice and good flying.

@richnash82 4 года назад

Loved this video. Brought back all the stresses of when I did my Instrument Rating.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

It's a fun approach to do.

@flybe146 4 года назад

An SRA was always something I wanted to do when I was flying but never did so well done, you flew that approach on rails mate - awesome stuff looking forward the next week's episode.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

30 knot headwind helped!

@seanmcerlean 4 года назад

Great Video Jon, looks like you have really mastered the instrument stuff & ZR as well I particularly like the camera setup focussed real time on the instruments. I remember doing a couple of those approaches into RAF Benson when training with the lucky chance to have a NATS controller as my instructor in the right seat.Made for an excellent overview of how both sides think and work. We also got the chance to do the more precision PRA into Benson for controller training. Popping off the foggles at 1/4 mile bang on course and seeing the lights dead ahead was impressive to say the least. Stay safe in all this madness right now Jon and look forward to upcoming videos.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Sean. And you stay safe too.

@NMcG111 4 года назад

Non compass non gyro approaches are done on a discrete frequency, I'll never forget my first one as a trainee ATCO ("aha....this'll be spectator sport" from some of the old hands) not easy to learn. Regular SRAs can be carried out on the main radar frequency (subject to traffic/workload and controller). Thank you for uploading this from the pilot perspective, very interesting to see and as mentioned previously, edited very nicely :) A big thumbs up :)

@piealotflyer3731 4 года назад

Very interesting Jon and really enjoyed that one. The cockpit shots were excellent and I felt as though I was actually doing it with you. Stay safe

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks for watching. Keep safe.

@GC987 4 года назад

Great upload again.... Really like it when you also show us the chart position (e.g. at 12:15) really help "get the picture" for the viewer. Brilliant stuff. Thanks.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Graeme.

@ForFunFlyer 4 года назад

Nice video, Jon! Very informative and entertaining! 👌🏻

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks pal.

@JodelFlyer 4 года назад

Interesting and informative video Jon. Great that you and Henry were both in the learning zone!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Henry is the pro! Thanks Tim. Hope you're keeping well.

@mikeclark6717 4 года назад

Yet again a fantastic video!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Mike.

@JoeRichardson02 4 года назад

Great video Jon, seems there's so much to think about when instrument flying, well handled.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thank you Joe. Yes, it can be a bit much at times.

@paulwear1489 4 года назад

Good video, good to have two people learning at once. Well done, enjoyed it.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Henry is the Pro Paul. I'm the amateur! Thanks for watching.

@togacontrol6153 3 года назад

Bet the No Compass No giro was even more fun. Could you do a video transitting the Stansted overhead and entering the CTA via the Epping VRP. Would love to see a transit with essex radar.

@flyingkub 4 года назад

Thanks for the video, not something a lot of GA pilot do often.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks for watching.

@BenAtkinsonVideos 4 года назад

Great video Jon. It’s a really high level of piloting and radio work going on there from everyone. Thanks for posting!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Ben. It was good fun - you should try it!

@nicholas5826 4 года назад

Stay safe mate.

@gap9992 4 года назад

Another very interesting video Jon so thanks. I like SRAs as you just have to follow instructions! Wondering why you didn't stick the hood on?

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I was still gaining confidence in the Arrow, and didn't feel comfortable doing this in IMC, or even simulated IMC, but you'll see that I'm focussing on instruments, rather than visual cues, so not a completely wasted opportunity,

@stewartwilkinsonsnr 4 года назад

Great to see two aspects of aviation helping each other very enjoyable video Jon ✈️

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

That's a good way to look at it Stewart. Hope you're keeping well.

@zoozolplexOne Год назад

Interesting. It is the same as non gyro approach

@marsgal42 4 года назад

Interesting approach. Sort of PAR-meets-localizer. How do you like the Arrow? I learned to fly in Cherokees and flew an Arrow once. Nice plane.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Enjoying the arrow, but don't feel comfortable in it yet!

@joeledery2955 4 года назад

hi .. i am french , and i enjoy to see your videos , because , i learn english with you and flying ...like you i fly with a pa 28 ....Can you please show me how you put your tablette on the steering wheel ...best regards ...thanks

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Hi Joel. I use a Ram yoke mount - most aviation stores sell them.

@lisasargent9006 4 года назад

Did James mention to you that when he flies over me in Stanford, he does a orbit for me? I have a proper dedicated aircraft finding lens now.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

he's told me he has done this. We were under radar control, so had to go where we were told on this flight!

@CrayonboxAviationAdventures 4 года назад

Are you guys still allowed to fly 🛩 recreationally where you are during this current 🌏 global situation? We are for the time being - apparently to stay current and maintain our skills 🇦🇺🎥🎞

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Nope. It's all locked down...no non essential travel.

@speedbird737 4 года назад

Slight mistake at 05:35 - controller didn't abbreviate call sign ;-) Other than that a great flight!

@henryspurgeon385 4 года назад

Nigel in actual fact the full callsign shall be used when issuing a controlled airspace clearance, and you should read back with full callsign 👍

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I think that was probably Nigel’s point. My bad!

@EuroAviators 4 года назад

Great work, this was very informative to watch. Never saw or flew SRA approaches before. It seems to be quite different from the (more common) PAR approach, where the controller keeps non-stop talking up to the touchdown point. Looking forward to the next part.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks.