What Is A Warbird? 

The name Warbird Is a symbolism for a predator scene is romulous the most dangerous animals are giant birds they don't have standard predators like most planets the dominant predatory species are lage birds on Romulus.. This was stated in one of the star trek encyclopedias.

It's the end of the age of aquarius All hail the laser bird!!!

The D'Deridex really is the most stylish ship in all of Star Trek. The Sovereign comes close, but nothing is visually more impressive on screen than the D'Deridex.

What is a Warbird? A Bird of War. Obviously! As opposed to the Cardassian Warvole, which is a Vole of War.

The atypical Warbird is, to me, sort of a cross between a super carrier and a dreadnought. A big, intimidating beast of a ship that can go anywhere, do anything, and of course, make the Hevams shake in their booties by being intimidating as hell, with a near perfect cloak and her sheer size. I also think that they moved to the generalist role because they weren't going to compete with the Federation in numbers, so they opted for better quality over quantity. Good vid!!

Well since Star Trek likes to depict Romulan ships like Submarines IN SPACE A Bird of Prey is an Attack Submarine IN SPACE A Warbird is a Balistic Submarine IN SPACE

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Great episode! Re: The Romulan-Earth war part at the beginning. In my head cannon, and based on what we see in Enterprise, I had always assumed that the Romulan fleet was easily superior to united Earth at the time the war began, but "Earth" won because, during the course of the war, they got both direct and indirect help from the "Coalition" which became the Federation at the war's end. If it had been one-on-one, I got the sense that the Romulans would have won, perhaps handily.

I’d describe Warbird’s as a cross between a Battlecruiser and a Nuclear-Powered Submarine. They trade speed for stealth but otherwise the basic principle is the same. Individually superior to most capital ships but the ability to run and hide from anything meaner. Very reminiscent of early 20th century IJN and Cold War era Soviet ships. Knowing they couldn’t compete in numbers they tried to build higher quality, multi-role ships that could do more. With varying results obviously.

Beautiful art .. yes, warbirds have a lit in common with a star destroyer in Star Wars . Capital ship , force projecting, with vast troope transportation . A multi-purpose vessel. ( except the cloak )

The TNG warbird is just sooooooo damn gorgeous! She is a rival to Galaxy class I believe. Not fast but cool firepower with a cloak.

Excellent overview and multi ship breakdown 👍🖖. JOLAN TRU!

Can you imagon Klingon and Romulan laywers fighting over name rights and royalties? I want to see that! :)

A warbird is any multi-role capable ship that can act independently from any support for long periods of time.

it just a Romulan name for a big powerful warship like dreadnaught, super carrier, star destroyer that has a powerful strike capability which combines that with the ability to cruise for long distance, engage the enemy head on and undertake a variety of missions that would not require a more specialised vessel as the different types of war bird I propose calling ships like the Daeinos and Valdore classes as Star Harriers the Meduim War birds like the Raptor as Battle Raptors and the ships like the Kerchan and Dederderx and Scimitar as War Eagles just because it fits as the romulan a developed a manuoive based doctrine that was designed to keep the enemy of balance with the sudden and seeming random strikes on fleets and infrastructure without risking the large casualties associated with full scale engagements and the romulan doctrine is a Klingon and star fleet wet dream especially in realm of suddenness and minimal loss of life and assets and the scary thing is that both star fleet, Klingons, and the several other powers can build their war birds equivalents and war bird killers think of the sovereign and negh va both scream of ships that were designed tackle war birds all through the sovereign was a Borg buster

Curious question - How would you apply the definition of a Romulan warlord to Reman design. Is the Scimitar a throwback to the Aquarius/TOS philosophy of only having massive firepower and a cloak? Would the Reman designs actually be a warbird? (Granted the Scimitar was sort of build around the thaleron weapon, but it could still teach us about Reman philosophy and technology)

Giant Laser Bird, that's a giggle!

Everything you've ever wanted to know about the Romulan warbird thank you so much

In a military role, a Warbird is basically a Space Submarine of some varying size, since that's what a Cloaking Device effectively enables in the setting (one of the first Romulan episodes in TOS was specifically based on the classic submarine film, The Enemy Below). This follows the Warbird battle doctrine in practice: Stalking an enemy target and then ambushing them to deliver a devastating barrage of heavy firepower (advanced weaponry) before disengaging and re-engaging another target. This doctrine applies to nearly all Romulan warships from the Nova class onward, and was employed to great effect against the Dominion when they entered the war. (conversely, when the Romulans began using the more conventional fleet battle-line engagements that the Klingons, Federation and Dominion were towards the latter third of the conflict, they suffered immensely and even the mighty D'Deridexes were laid low; showing their vulnerabilities.) It's a pretty fantastic war doctrine for shock-and-awe warfare, but terrible for prolonged engagements, and especially those where the enemy can retaliate with superior numbers against your strategic holdings. (as the Dominion did, which necessitated the battle-lines and fleet formations in key corridors of space) One other problem with Warbird ship design is that in order to maximize their ambush tactics, they must provide a powerful alpha strike, necessitating most of their weapons to be able to fire on a single point. This innately limits the locations they can mount their main battery (forward) and leaves their flanks and rear nearly defenseless; enabling agile ships plenty of space to exploit them should the ambush not destroy them outright. The final and arguably biggest weakness of the warbird doctrine is that it's entirely reliant on keeping Cloaking ahead of enemy sensor tech. A detected Warbird is a useless (or dead) Warbird. (I headcanon that the reason why Starfleet built so many cruisers during peacetime was specifically to patrol for and detect cloaked Romulan warships in transit. The large sensor package configuration of the Miranda with its enormous Sensor Suite makes perfect sense if patrolling for cloaked Novas during the Lost Era.)

The romulans always had a certain look when it came to ship design. It combined style and grace but had the ability to inspire terror in their enemies

I do not consider the Val'Dor from Star Trek: Nemesis to be a Warbird. I consider it to be a heavy cruiser with battlecruiser caliber weapons. I know that the Val'Dor's commander calls it a "Warbird" in the movie, but it is no where near in size to the Scimitar or a D'Deridex as well as it appears to be closer in size to a Vor'cha class attack cruiser or a Sovereign class. The Val'Dor is obviously the results of the lessons the Romulans learned during the Dominion War as they lost their flag ship in the final battle and their entire line started to collapse as a result of this loss. Instead of building bigger to match the Federation's Galaxy Class, the Romulans figured out that sleeker and faster was the way to go moving into the future (similarly to how the Fedaration started building smaller and faster after the Battle of Wolf 359).

ah heavy explorer, when you get so deep into the anti-battleship propaganda

So... If it looks like a Warbird, acts like a Warbird, quacks like a Warbird... it's probably a bird of prey. I remember some old fan designs that were just scrappy and very basic images. Even though I don't play STO, it has definitely improved the quality of fan and beta cannon designs. I like when thought has gone into their design and backstories. I've really loved your videos with Drachinifel, putting some serious thought into ship roles, which you do anyway. After what has been done to Trek these last few years it's nice to see people who love the franchise keep things alive. Great video as always.

🖖😎👍Very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and very nicely well executed on all matters concerning Romulan war ships and various vessels and their tactics indeed👌.

We love all your videos Mr. Venom!

Bird of Prey: Corvette to Frigate Stormbird: Frigate to Heavy Cruiser Warbird: Heavy Cruiser to Battleship

From Tin Man, the Enterprise does note that their race to Tin Man is just that. The D'Deridex(s?) are keeping up with their maximum cruising speed.

Why is a warbird . ( recycling from the community post ) .. what make ? warbird happy 😊. .

TO me, Warbirds are ship of the line. High end heavy warships , oppose to frigates, which are smaller faster more maneuverable ships, but at the cost of firepower and durability. Frigates being more like bird's of Prey. I was always pissed that the Search for spock they decided to get rid of the original idea that the ship was ROmulan and made it Klingon. I am also pissed at DS9, because according to the story, Romulans failed in the battle of Kardassius prime, They lack smaller maneuverable ships which allow the Jemmidar to use their greater speed to avoid Romulan warbirds. My belief that the ROmulans knew this and would have some smaller bird of Prey, and better yet, they would have fighters based on the D'deridex , like the original design meant them to have. I think they compounded the issue with the back story of the new warbirds, which was smaller , that showed up in the Star Trek movie, with Picard's clone. The story being the newer warbird was to help the d'deridix with a smaller and more agile warbird. Warbirds should be large monoliths to be feared, but Romulans should always have smaller ships for spying. I believe the story should always be that the ROmulan's problem is that they do not have the same fleet size so they try to make it up with a smaller number of large ships. But they never be so stupid to put all their eggs on one design and have a decent number of bird of prey. As said, but not sufficient for their needs. Also I was pissed at how they portray the ROmulans in DS9 . Granted arrogance might cause them to make some of their mistakes. But by the end, they should of been so arrogant, that they demand their plan to take affect. WHich isnt each fleet have their position, but mixing the fleet. It's harder to coordinate, but it allow the Dominion to concentrate their forces at their advantage. Instead of spreading out the Breen vessels, they concentrate it away from the Klingons. And by having a mix fleet, they can use the Romulans advantage, their cloak to their advantage.

Sparrows and falcons. Very aquatic.

So "warbird" is roughly similar to "star destroyer " in Star Wars. An Imperial and a Victory are very different beasts but both are Destroyers. Even if the Victory was 100 meters too short technically.

Without looking it up: About the "hetzer" tank. "Hetzer" comes from the verb "hetzen". Which means that someone pushes you to do something unnecessarely quick and exhausting. Like a wolfpack that try to exhaust their prey before the best hunters attacks to finish it. Basically its a description of a role. That fits for warbird also, i think? Of course its possible that the name of the company or the designer was hetzer^^

The old game Star Trek Bridge Commander let you fly D'deridex or fight them. They were slow and lumbering with a really high hull rating. But because it was so slow you could, over time, destroy it with the game's shuttlecraft. You just had to keep maneuvering so you didn't get blown up with one barrage. I think doing this took 20-30 minutes in that game.

Warbird - battleship, dreadnought, heavy cruiser Starbird - cruiser, light cruiser Bird of prey - destroyer, frigate Raptor - corvette Shrike - escort Talon - scout

I'd say that a Romulan Warbird is as follows: A multirole battlecruiser sized ship with the capacity to cloak at high warp, carry smaller vessels as support craft, and remain self sufficient for long deployments in enemy terrirory. It is designed to fill a very specific, but adaptable place in the fleet. The D'deridex fills this role nicely, as does the Raptor class and some of their descendants to a limited extent. I disagree with STO's broad application of the term because very few of the ships it applies the term to fit the classification. We also have other terms for these various ships. Stormbirds are cloak capable cruisers for use in anti-capitol ship brawling and defensive roles, Birds of Prey are frigate and corvette sized ships used for scouting, escort and patrol duties, etc.

for the modern day... due to the post-dominion war fleet sizes, even the largest vessels do not really have the capability to meet the classification of a Warbird as I define them (a single ship able to face a fleet and at least partially win)... however, a more proper way to term them might be say: a D'deridex equivalent type vessel. I believe development meant that Warbirds in the classic sense are no longer possible given new technology... though historically, I am not sure whether the older still active ships should be downrated (like in our earthly rated navies) or not.

interesting definition..... to me, a warbird was a type of ship that could alone wage a war... that is a warbird is a fully autonomous ship capable (through either the use of stealth and/or firepower) to take on a fleet sized formations of vessels as commonly sent by the presumed opponent... it is a vessel made to face a multitude of capital ships of it's era & win, or at least, to survive doing significant harm to the enemy before fleeing tracelessly without incurring serious/mission-critical damage.

The biggest problem I can see is that their jack-of-all-trades but a master of none.

its simple...warbirds are ships that use a singularity core as its power generator?

Glad to see my comment about Vulcan strategic bombers getting a mention. The main basis that led me to that line of thought is the line from broken bow or ambassador saval comments that the only reason Earth isn't surrounded by a fleet of Klingon warbirds was Vulcan intervention. This clearly intimates that at this point in history the Vulcans as a group are using the term warbird to describe military vessels and Klingon warships of at least the D4 and D5 varieties would qualify as warbirds under the term. It also makes me wonder if Klingons didn't adopt the use of the term bird-of-prey because other people were already calling their smaller ships birds of prey.

I was going to say, early Romulus looks like 40k Tau ships.

Fourth!

For a 'Warbird' how do you think the Romulans ranked the capability of being a mothership, being able to carry, service and refuel significant, but short-ranged starships? That's one thing that strikes me for the D'Deridex and Raptors versus other races. Taking the daughter craft capabilities from the Vulcan D'kyr dreadnought to the next level? It also fits your 'do everything' when you add the troop-carrying capacity.

Where is Warbird, Who is Warbird, Why is Warbird?

Listing to your conclusion I would for the most part agree with it. The only area of contention would be that Post-Hobus, the Romulans no longer had the ability to maintain a qualitative advantage (except in range and stealth) against Starfleet and never at all against the Borg. Still overall, Warbirds are impressive ships that awe both ally and foe alike. Maybe you should do something similar to this for Borg vessels.

Looking forward to the next dominion war battlespace!

Star Fleet Battles coined the name "warbird" as far back as 1974ish.

So what you're saying is that the Romulans started with the rough equivalent of ships of the line, evolved into ironclads, transformed into pre-dreadnoughts, and then hit the perfect storm of tech advances in a single design of a dreadnought. Except instead of dreadnought it's a warbird. And as a bonus, there's no real place for carriers to radically alter things and obsolete out the other capital ships. Though the question would become... are warbirds the "dreadnought" equivalent, or the battleship equivalent in general with "ironclads" being the pre-warbirds? ;)

I think you are overanalyzing it a bit. war bird that it's just a word for an airplane. made for war. so in the Star Trek universe that it's just a spaceship created for war. = war bird.?

The d'deredix was a flawed concept. A bit like the original dreadnought all big gun ship. Once surrounded by fast attack craft like dominion bug ships and klingon birds of prey they get worn down and beaten. That is the reason I think they went to the nerexan class. More like a larger vorcha class, fast and aggressive with good agility.

A warbird is like pornography, I may not be able to define it, but I know it when I see it.

My head canon is the Romulans avoiding being sued by the Klingons 😂 that’s brilliant

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What is the USS Enterprise? You first must go into history. USS means United States Ship. This tells you the origin. And Starfleet is basically an Air Navy. For a War Bird you should start with Romulan history and mythos. Much like i did with the USS Enterprise.

Their called Warbirds because they're warships shaped like birds... bit of a no brainer really... ? 🦃🤣

I'd love to hear you talk about your thoughts on the new Romulan ships from Picard :D

I propose a different naming scheme: Romulans call all their ships "Birds". A warbird does the fighty An explorebird does the go places A transportbird does the move stuff. I think this summarises it nicely.

What is a warbird? Well I designed ships myself and had to adapt to the logic of a game and due to the mechanics I was forced to invent my own warbird-style ship (just called it differently). What a warbird is: a capital or super capital assault vessel (mostly frigate size and upwards) with less focus on turrets but rather on frontal (gimbal or coaxial) weaponry, similar to a corvette class sub capital or a fighter/bomber. It's that easy and simple... a warbird ultimately is oversized strike craft that belongs to the frigate, destroyer or battleship class. They also share natural weaknesses of strike craft. Many here said the same in that direction... fragile, highly maneuverable, not necessarily the fastest, but armed to the teeth with frontal direct attack weaponry. Some warbirds style vessels may not even have ANY turrets at all (point defence excluded of course). A popular ship that fights in a similar way: the SSR Normandy (Mass Effect, Stealth/ Recon Frigate) The term "warbird" doesn't really define size or weight like the more common terms do. One could rather see this as a sub category of military ships.

I’d love to see you break down the Borg fleet. Why do they need to field so many classes of ships?

You know Starfleet didn't improve their ships but the romulan Navy kept pace

The best I could come up with after watching your video and thinking about what you where saying, as a way to easier understand it the whole concept of the Romulan Warbird, is to think of the Warbiord as a mix of the Ohio Class Submarine and L.A. Class Submarine. A Warbird has the strategic capability of the Ohio Class submarine in terms of having enough firepower to leverage a colony and the deterrence factor of staying hidden/having his whereabouts unknown, as well as the L.A Class submarines tactical abilities of finding, observing, and eliminating anenemy force in limited engagements. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You do realize that the term Romulan Warbird first appeared in Star Fleet Battles, right?

I'd like a story where there is a debate within the Federation about creating a warbird class ship. I know they have the Defiant but that's old news. I'd like to see the debate and it being concluded with a great speech about how many died in the wars with the Dominion, and other wars, and it being made possible by a weak Federation and that the only reason the Dominion didn't conquer them was because of the Worm Hole Being's, and that next time they may not be so fortunate. Fast forward a few years and we see a true, Federation warbird that is absolutely badass.

My Fav Rom Ships are the Pilum, Sanctus and The D'Deridex.

Maybe it's the name of the ship that puts it's in the level of ship class? Like Enterprise will always be the heaviest ship of the front line and the Reliant won't be as used as a destroyer escort class! So it is for the Romulans?

war bird because every ship called a war bird or bird of prey is shaped like a bird or have bird like designs even the d’deridex

An important question is why would the Romulans call it a warbird as opposed to a cherry tomato or a space ship of death? Obviously there's a huge cultural reason and then it needs something else. I think it's a particular engineering style that evolved over time. Perhaps Romulan engineers discovered that putting the nacelles as far apart as possible made it easier to cloak. And all the designs they made kinda looked like birds if you squint. So they said, 'warbird design' and the ships with this design became warbirds. Over time this definition evolved into a role that this design was particularly good at and ships of that role but not necessarily that design such as the D'Deridex also became associated with the word in the way you describe.

Where did you get the image for all the warbirds before the hetzer comment

Great video what's is a Warbird my friend a terror to the Federation makes them crap in their pants 🖖😁

can you do a video on the Cardassian Detapa Intel Escort

Thought it was just a battle cruiser

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amazing romulan ship

You have made a great one again

Where is -Waldo- Warbird? 😉

Okay, since I can't find your twitter or facebook...is there by chance a "Wings of The Federation" coming involving the Odyssey class since the Enterprise-F is about to become canon in 2401?

Can someone explain to me, how to become a member? I've been wanting to support the channel for sometime but can't seem to figure it out :D

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i wish we got an rpg or rts in the star trek universe, would love to vage war on the klingon and cardasians with the romulan fleet! nice vid :)

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