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What is a wash sale? A wash sale is an investment transaction in which an investor sells a losing security to claim a capital loss, but within 30 days before or after the sell, repurchases it (or a substantially identical security) again. The clock for counting the 30 days, begins the day AFTER you purchase the stock regardless of whether the next day is a weekday or weekend, the 30 days includes saturdays and sundays. Wash sales also apply to options, but I’ll focus mainly on stock wash sales.
The wash sale rule as stated by the IRS is a regulation that prevents an investor from taking a tax deduction for a security sold in a wash sale. Since the loss is disallowed because of the wash sale rule, the investor has to add the loss to the cost of either existing shares or the new shares just purchased, which adds the loss to the cost basis of the shares either already owned or newly acquired to negate the effect of the loss. Why this was put into place was to prevent investors from intentionally taking tax losses on stock positions, buying the same stock again, and then realizing the tax loss by reducing capital gains.
Wash sales apply more to the short term investor looking to achieve an optimal purchase price for their stock positions.
Averaging down is an investing strategy in which an investor purchases additional shares of a previously initiated investment after the price has dropped further. The result of this second purchase is a decrease in the average price at which the investor purchased the stock.
If you make a trade and sell it in the money at a profit, there is no wash sale. When selling at a loss you can’t buy back the same stock for 30 days. When buying a stock that you already own, you restart the 30 day clock.
To summarize, the first example is just taking a loss on a stock. The second example is moving the wash sale onto 1 of your other bunches of shares, both bunches are out of the money. The third example is owning 2 bunches of shares and wanting to take a loss on 1 bunch of the shares without a wash sale. Fourth example is 2 bunches of shares 1 in the money and 1 out of the money, you can sell both at the same time without a wash sale. Fifth example is if you own 2 or more bunches of shares and you want to take the loss on all of the shares to avoid a wash sale.
Why would someone want to take a loss or create a wash sale if it wasn’t done by accident?
• Price Optimization - By taking a wash sale and adding the hopefully minimal loss onto a new or existing cost basis, you hope to buy the same stock back at an even lower price.
• Margin Interest - Margin interest is accruing and it’s hard to sit on losing trades while paying interest on them.
• Lost interest in the stock - Changed your mind about how you feel about a stock, maybe there was news that adversely impacts that company and you want to move on to something else.
Something to keep in mind as you invest to determine whether you are trading or investing depending on if you are a long term investor or short term investor. If timing matters, then you are trading. A long term trader thinks less about timing than a short term investor, so as you are investing, think about if timing matters to you before you buy.
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@niki7159
@niki7159 3 года назад
Honestly, he is even better at explaining this than my instructor. :3 best explanation so far among other YT videos. Thank you!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
You're welcome and thank you so much! Please subscribe and share it with others that might find it helpful too. I really appreciate comments like these, it motivates me to keep making these kinds of videos. =)
@Unclebuns72
@Unclebuns72 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 another question. I’ll subscribe and I already started sharing your channel Say worst case scenario a stock goes to zero. Can the whole loss be written off against gains?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
That would be quite a bad scenario, but yes it could be written off against gains. And thanks Tyler for sharing the channel and subscribing. I appreciate it!
@somedonkus5406
@somedonkus5406 3 года назад
Best explanation of wash sales I’ve seen on RU-vid. Thank you.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. Hope you can subscribe and check out some of my other videos too!
@mangojoe8576
@mangojoe8576 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 will I be okay I bought 1 share of a stock just to have instead of putting it on my WL.....then I inadvertently sold it(loss) when I was trying to buy more which I bought 57k(penny stock) I'm new at this still learning I saw the "W" on my ticker and started getting worried.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
@@mangojoe8576 Hi, I'm not understanding what happened, can you be more clear about what happened and when? If you see a "W" symbol then there is a wash sale at least on some of the shares you bought back.
@mangojoe8576
@mangojoe8576 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 I'm sorry...I bought 1 share sold it for a loss the same day I purchase 57k of the same stock
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
No problem, ok so it sounds like the wash sale should only be on 1 share of what you bought back. Check your trading history and see if your broker only adjusted the cost basis for what you lost on selling the 1 share. This is because you only lost money on 1 share by selling at a loss before you bought the 57k bunch of shares. Hope this is helpful for you. Please like this video and subscribe as well!
@serenegb
@serenegb 3 года назад
Great examples and the best video I washed so far. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in this.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks so much, I appreciate your compliment! I'm glad you found my video helpful. Please like, subscribe and check out my latest video on how to remove wash sales based on FAQ's from other subscribers with even more examples. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@SHWong-gi9ow
@SHWong-gi9ow 3 года назад
Very informative! Thank you
@rtzstvn
@rtzstvn Год назад
first video i watch of yours. the video was filled with great information about wash sales that i had to sub. thanks.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Thanks so much! I have 2 more wash sale videos too, please check them out if you haven't already on How to remove wash sales and FAQ's from other viewers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@ingnam4006
@ingnam4006 3 года назад
I just subscribed! Thank you for the best explanation! I am a new trader 2021. I wish I watched your video before I started trading 😭. I just bought the same stock after sold it for 20 days this month. 😭😭😭
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks for watching and subscribing! It is common to find out about wash sales after it happens. Please check out some of my other videos on tax loss harvesting and margin trading too.
@lordhegamonster6931
@lordhegamonster6931 3 года назад
Great video! So, if I bought a stock on March 18. Sold at a loss on April 13. Repurchased the stock on April 15 unaware this would trigger a Wash-Sale. Noticed the cost basis was way higher than I thought it would be and immediately panic sold at a slight loss that same day, April 15. If I wait until May 16, could I repurchase that identical stock and the Wash sale would go away and not effect my new cost basis? New to this and looking for clarification. Thank-you!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Eric, thanks for watching! Based on your example, you are correct in your counting. May 16 would day 31 and would be the first day you would be able to buy that same stock back without a wash sale impacting the cost basis and the loss would be recorded for tax purposes. However, since May 16 is a Sunday, the first day you'd be able to actually sell is on May 17 which is a Monday. Please like and subscribe if you haven't already and check out some of my other videos and my latest video on How to Remove Wash Sales where I answer FAQ's from other viewers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@mikeou1498
@mikeou1498 3 года назад
Very helpful,Thanks,quick question regarding example 2, in since the loss of first trade was added to the second trade,if I sell the second trade and do not touch same stock within 30 days,then the loss of the first trade can be claimed when file tax return. Am I right, if I am right, can I say that in order to claim all loss of trading, you just need to close all positions which might have wash sale issue before new year.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Mike, thanks for watching! Based on your question, you would be correct. But keep in mind by the time the second trade is sold, the stock could drop further adding to the losses. And yes closing out the position would allow you to claim a loss as long as you don't repurchase the same stock within 30 days of selling at a loss. The way the wash sale rule is defined, an investor would need to do 1 of the following to remove a wash sale: 1) sell all shares at a profit above the wash sale adjusted cost basis 2) sell all shares and close out the position on the stock (some shares can be at a profit or loss) 3) specifically sell the shares with the wash sale at a profit above the wash sale adjusted cost basis I speak to this in example 5 in my latest video on wash sales, so please give that a watch too if you haven't already and subscribe for future videos. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@danab4337
@danab4337 3 месяца назад
Ahh 'Mazing -Thank you 🙏 Total newbie here and just finding out all the Pitfalls. New Subscriber 👍
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching and subscribing! I have 2 other wash sale videos if you haven’t seen them already.
@JoseSilva-hr2de
@JoseSilva-hr2de 3 года назад
Question: What if I trade a company, say 3x in a month (and make a profit on each trade); however, on my 4th trade I incur an unrealized loss. Would selling the shares at a loss trigger a wash loss sale since my 4 trades occurred within 30 days; or, would it only trigger a wash loss sale if I repurchased the same shares a day later after selling at a loss previously?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Jose, profits do not trigger wash sales. So in your example, if the first 3 trades resulted in profits there is no wash sale. Even when selling at a loss in the 4th trade does not result in a wash sale UNLESS you choose to repurchase the same stock within 30 days of executing the 4th trade at a loss. A wash sale is defined as selling a losing security to claim a capital loss, but within 30 days before or after selling, repurchases a substantially identical security again. Please like, subscribe and watch my latest wash sale video which answers some additional FAQs on wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@chrismaddox1634
@chrismaddox1634 3 года назад
Great video, so I’m new to investing and am on robinhood. I made a substantial amount on amc sold but bought back in with shares and options. I ended up losing half of what I made mostly with the options so I sold. Waited a few days and bought some shares again just day trading amc for the past week. I have had no indicator saying wash rule and had no idea what that was. Do I need to stay out of amc stock for 31 days to get the loss? Can I buy other stocks just not amc?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Chris, thanks for watching and your compliment, I appreciate it! Based on what you mentioned it's kind of hard to tell without a sequence of trades as an example, but if you lost money on either AMC stock or options on AMC and then repurchased 1 or the other within 30 days of selling at a loss there should be a wash sale somewhere in the sequence of trades. Robinhood or any broker should mark any impacted trade with a "w" symbol in the trade activity log. If you want to record the loss for tax purposes you pretty much have to close out of AMC or at least the losing positions of it and not buy back in until 31 days or longer. Any other stock trades will not impact your AMC. Wash sales only pertain to the same stock, so even if you had another wash sale on something else, that has no impact on whether your AMC trades had a wash sale. Hope this helps! Please like, subscribe and check out my latest video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@alexobrien1529
@alexobrien1529 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the video. I bought 20 shares of company X at $30. I averaged down to $25. Sold my whole position at $27. Next week I bought the stock again for $24 but the wash sale rule changed that the price to $30. What gives? I sold for profit after averaging down ?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Alex, thanks for watching and subscribing. The shares purchased at $25 were sold at a profit, but it sounds like the 20 shares purchased at $30 when stock x was sold at $27 for a loss of $60. This caused a wash sale of $60 to be added to your cost basis when the stock was bought again at $24. If I had to guess you bought less than 20 shares at $24 which is why it increased the cost basis to $30 per share. This is similar to examples 2, 3 and 4 in my video. Please check out my video on tax loss harvesting too.
@aniljoseph5092
@aniljoseph5092 3 года назад
Question for you, if I am doing a covered call on a stock that I’m holding 100 shares of. If my cost basis is at $800 but I sell a covered call at $790. I am taking a loss but with the premium I am still profitable, so if I do another cash secured put (wheel strategy) and get assigned on the same stock. Is that considered a wash sale, if it’s within a 30 day window?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Anil, I'm not super familiar with options and wash sales, but I suspect that it would be a wash sale because it would be the on same stock. You'd have to check with your broker and accountant to be 100% confident. I would think brokers track options a similar way and would count it as a wash sale on the same stock even if the strike and expiration are different. Please like and subscribe and check out some of my other content.
@crystalltran
@crystalltran 3 года назад
I am having 5 shares at Cost Basis $35 as wash sale. The last transaction as wash sale was on Feb 06 2021 (it is over 30 days since the sell and buy). Now it is $25. If I want to buy share at $25, does the cost basis will be averaged down to $30 (if I buy 5 shares at $25) or wash sale still apply to new 5 share with $25 and Cost Basis will be increased? Thanks,
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Crystall, if you already have a wash sale applied to shares you own, there should be no wash sale again once you repurchase because it would have already been accounts for on the shares you already own. In your example, the $25/share purchase should not have a another wash sale added to it if you still own the 5 shares that were adjusted to $35. Hope this helps. Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already and check out my second video on wash sales ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@dukenguyen441
@dukenguyen441 3 года назад
Excellent explanation of wash sales you tube - thank you
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! Please subscribe and like this video.
@MurderMostFowl
@MurderMostFowl 3 года назад
What if you own existing Stock X that you have NOT purchased in the last 61 days, and then you do a series buying multiple call options, closing them and buying Calls again within 30 days. The options transactions trigger a wash, but you buy no more stock or options for any additional 61 days. Does the wash sale get nullified or do you have to add the basis to your old existing stock?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, I'm not sure on this since I don't trade options, but based on the wash sale rule definition I think if it's in the same account it would add to the basis of the existing stock position assuming the call options were all also on stock x. Hope this helps, please subscribe and like if you haven’t already.
@lville88
@lville88 2 года назад
Great video! I have a question. If I buy 10 call options in KO for $10 per contract ($100) and then the premium drops to $5 so I buy 10 more ($50), totaling $7.5 average for 20 options. Then the price goes up and I start selling 5 contracts at a time, so sell 5 contracts at $8, 5 at $9, and the last 10 I sell at $12. Will it be a wash sale on any of those? And can I play more call options on KO with a different expiration date within 31 days?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Thank you Kristo! I'm not entirely positive on exactly how wash sales add to the cost basis on options, so you'll have to check with an accountant. But if it works similarly to stocks then I'd think the first 5 contracts sold $8 would cause a wash onto the next 5 that were sold at $9 (then pushing up the cost basis). The wash sale would probably roll onto the last 10 contracts too because of the order in which they were sold. Any further trades could be impacted within 30 days of the last 10 contracts sold. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@thong8056
@thong8056 3 года назад
So I bought two 50 shares at the same price at the same price of 484. A couple of weeks later, I sold 50 shares for a loss. I did not repurchase any share since. I noticed that the broker adjusted the 50 shares that I am still holding to 551 per share. Does this fall into the wash sale rule?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
It sounds like you bought 50 shares in 2 separate trades which is why there is a wash sale and the broker added the loss to the cost basis on the remaining 50 shares that you still hold. I believe it's treating it as a wash sale because it's 2 separate transactions. Hope this helps, please subscribe and watch my video on Tax Loss Harvesting!
@greglarry11
@greglarry11 3 года назад
Thank you. This was very helpful.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Gregory, glad you found this helpful. Please like this video and subscribe as well for more content in the future! Check out my latest video on how to remove wash sales too if you haven’t already. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@futuristsix5214
@futuristsix5214 3 года назад
Thank you! This is great
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks so much, I appreciate it! Please like, subscribe and check out my latest video on how to remove wash sales as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@jf0783
@jf0783 3 года назад
Great video! What if I sell 3 options at a loss and buy 1 time the same stock but shares. Are all the three selling account as wash sale or just one?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching! I'm not as familiar with options and wash sales so you may want to look into this further, but I think if the options were all on the same stock and all 3 were sold at a loss then there would be wash sales on those. Following those 3 options, the stock purchase probably has a wash sale also depending on how all 3 options trades turned out. Please subscribe, like and share this video!
@jf0783
@jf0783 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thank you so much!
@ucoolallen
@ucoolallen Год назад
just making sure i understand this if i had a lot of wash sales triggered through out the year does that mean hypothetically if i just didn’t trade at all from december all the way to february or the cut off i wouldn’t have to worry about any of the wash sales at all like they would be wiped ? because i didn’t trade any of them again for over 60 days ?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Allen thanks for watching! I discussed this exact question in my other 2 wash sale videos, please check those out as well along with liking and subscribing to the channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@warrenwood564
@warrenwood564 Год назад
Hello, I think i understand but wanted to see if you agree. I have around 2000 shares of a stock purchase at different times over the last two years, none within the last 90 days. All the shares are trading at a loss right now. If at year end I sell 500 of these shares not buy this stock back for 30 days am i still subject to wash sale rules and the loss just goes to the cost basis of the remining shares or can I use that loss to offset some gains since i didn't purchase any stock within the 30 day before and after window? Thank you
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Hi Warren, thanks for watching! There should not be a wash sale in the scenario you mentioned given that each trade is beyond the 30 day window. You should be able to use the loss to offset gains. Hope that helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my other wash sale videos on how to remove a wash sale and FAQ's from other viewers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@sbage7403
@sbage7403 2 года назад
thanks for the video . Can you explain what the 61 day rule is in the wash sale context? if I keep and buying and selling same security all thru the year (sometime at loss /and sometime at profit) as a day trading, then if I sell my shares on Nov 30th of the year and the do not trade the same security till January 1st, Am I okay to not get hut by wash sale rule? thx again
@sbage7403
@sbage7403 2 года назад
typos.. so writing again.. Please read as "if I keep on buying and selling same security all thru the year (sometime at loss /and sometime at profit) as a day trading, then if I sell my shares on Nov 30th of the year and then do not trade the same security till January 1st, Am I okay to not get hit by wash sale rule? "
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching! So to answer your question, if you trade the same stock throughout the year and sometimes sell at a profit and sometimes at a loss, it will have caused wash sales over the course of the year. There may have been times you would have expected to make a profit on a trade, but did not because of a wash sale as 1 possible example. Even by selling at the end the year to realize the loss, there could still have been wash sales that impacted your trades. There is no easy way to truly manage wash sales unless you understand the wash sale rule. The wash sale rule indicates that it's 30 days before or after selling at a loss, which is where the 61 days is sometimes mentioned. Hope this helps! Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@scottwright3411
@scottwright3411 Год назад
Hi. I burned myself with a wash sale some time ago, and you helped explain it in simple terms. I have a question - in your experience, would selling an individual stock at a loss (like Disney etc...), and then immediately purchasing an index fund (like VTO) cause a wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Hi Scott, thanks for watching. To answer your question, no it would not cause a wash sale because it is not the same stock. Even if an index fund held that same stock it's not an identical holding. Hope this helps! Please like, subscribe and check out my latest wash sale videos with FAQ's and how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@jonathonwexter6627
@jonathonwexter6627 2 года назад
Scenario: My price was .21 and quickly sold at .19 since dropping fast. Loss was $65. Bought back at .17. Wash sale is $65 showing my average price as .21 again. So I’m right back where I started. Question… it appears it would’ve been smarter to not sell/buy back but to buy more shares at .17 to average down. I would have had an average price of maybe .185 and no wash sale. Meaning if you feel good about the company just average down don’t sell and buy back in? Truly impressive video! 👏
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Jon, there are several factors that can lead into selling at a loss and causing wash sales. The main ones are that it's difficult in the moment to determine when to sell or potentially margin interest or a margin call. If you have confidence in the stock or company, try not to react too quickly as a fundamentally sound company should rebound if given enough time. Thanks for watching, hope you like and subscribe for more content.
@maxskinner7227
@maxskinner7227 3 года назад
My main question would be does the cost basis adjustment affect my overall profit. I know the wash sale is for tax purposes, however if I sold 1 share of XYZ for a loss of $200.50 and then bought back 2 shares the next day for $170, but after the wash sale adjustment my cost basis increases to $270 per share. When it comes time to sell, does the wash sale subtract from my cost basis? Lets say the price of XYZ went up to $300 dollars and I decide to sell. Would I realize an overall gain of $260 or a gain of $60? Thanks!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Max, this is a good question for uneven buying/selling when it comes to wash sales. Your trading activity with your broker should reflect any cost basis impacted shares in your actual trades even though I understand that your example is hypothetical. So in your example, the wash sale would only be on 1 share since that was sold at a loss even though you bought back 2 shares. So 1 share would have a cost basis adjusted to $170+$200.50 making it $370.50 and the other share would be at the normal $170. If you sold the cost basis adjusted share at $300, you would end up with a loss of $70.50 because of the wash sale. The other share if also sold at $300 would realize a gain of $130. Hope this helps. Please subscribe, like and share this video! Check out my video on Tax Loss Harvesting too.
@maxskinner7227
@maxskinner7227 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 thanks so much man!
@mizzou8263
@mizzou8263 9 месяцев назад
example I bought a stock and sold it three times during the year the last sale was september 5 . I then waited until October 5 to buy back in to the same security? Will all my wash sales be realized. I had three is everything now reset and all good?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 9 месяцев назад
Hi, even if there were some shares that were sold at a loss leading into September 5 (I'm assuming you mean in calendar year 2023) you should be reset if you wanted to buy in on 10/6. 10/5 would be the 30th day since day 1 is the day after the sale. Hope that helps! Please like and subscribe if you haven't already for more content in the future.
@konstantines.6926
@konstantines.6926 3 года назад
New to this. I had been doing short sales on some volatile stocks. so I.E. I sold at a loss of $100 on stock x, I then saw stock x bottom out and buy back in. So not only did I lose that $100 money from the first sell off, that $100 I lost is also applied to the new position of stock x I repurchased, which essentially doubles the amount of money I'm losing? That seems really shit.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching. So with a wash sale, once you trigger a wash sale, you aren’t technically losing money twice. It's an accounting adjustment to disallow you from recording a loss because of the wash sale rule. Please subscribe and check out my latest video on wash sales also. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@nh6405
@nh6405 Год назад
Thank you. You explained it so well
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Thanks for your comment, I appreciate it! Hope you like and subscribe for more content in the future. Check out my other wash sale videos as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@lville88
@lville88 2 года назад
Also, what if you’re playing spy options with different expiration dates? So you lose $100 in the 2/17 expiration date, but you buy another expiration date, say 2/19, in the same stock and gain $100 ? Does wash rule apply?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
I'm not sure, but it could apply there too. I would think that with different expiration it could be considered different, but I can't be certain since the underlying index is the same. This is a really good question though.
@thatsaneck7454
@thatsaneck7454 2 года назад
Hi Brian, does this rule still apply to straddles?for example, Iets say I buy both a call and a put of a stock, I make money on the call but the put expires worthless, a couple days later I buy the same stock again, would that mean a wash sale happened or is it exempt?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, that's a fantastic question. I'm not sure to be honest, but there could be an exception since likely with a straddle you're more than likely to make a profit on 1 and lose on the other. Check with your accountant as well.
@msjsnjsskdjajsnsbs2748
@msjsnjsskdjajsnsbs2748 3 года назад
Okay so would you have to report the wash sale on your tax form even if the wash sale is erased? For example you sell for a profit higher than your adjusted cost average, does this really get rid of the wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Yes, you would have to report it for your taxes even if you clear the wash sale for the next trade on that same stock. If you sell at a profit even with the wash sale cost basis adjustment, it clears it from impacting your next trade on the same stock. However, before it did not allow you to record the loss which is why a wash sale was triggered initially. By selling at a profit, it nets against the profit. Please like this video as well!
@HannahMcFarlane-jg4bu
@HannahMcFarlane-jg4bu 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic job on explaining this complex subject matter
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 7 месяцев назад
Thanks Hannah, please like and subscribe if you haven’t already.
@gio5898
@gio5898 2 года назад
Hi Awesome info thanks. I have a question, if I buy a stock on April 1 then sell it on April 2 (with a gain) now I buy the same stock on April 3 and sell it on April 4 for a loss, how long do I have to wait to avoid a wash sale? I’m unclear of the 30 days before restriction. Thanks in advance.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi George, thanks for watching. Based on the scenario you mentioned, the 30 days would start after selling at a loss on April 4. So May 5th would be 31 days and that would be the first day that the stock can be traded again without a wash sale. The loss on that stock would have been realized as well at that point. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@babycutezz5665
@babycutezz5665 3 года назад
Let say I bought XYZ stock 100 at $120, 100 at $80 and 100 at $65 (Total = $26500), sold all of them at $90 (Total = $27000). Can I offset the profit with the "wash sale" loss so I only pay tax for $500? I appreciate your help. Thank You
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for your question and providing all the details, happy to answer. So based on the scenario you mentioned, there is no wash sale triggered since all 300 shares are sold at the same time even though 100 shares are at a loss. The net profit is still $500 from selling all 300 shares. However, if the same stock were to be purchased again within 30 days of when they were last sold, there would be a wash sale triggered for the $3,000 loss (the 100 shares purchased at $120 since those were at a loss of $30 per share) added to the cost basis of the new shares. Your example is most similar to example 5 in my video if you wanted to re-watch that part of my video along with my summary of all my examples. Hope this is helpful! Please subscribe if you haven't already too.
@babycutezz5665
@babycutezz5665 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thank you.. yes I have subscribed..
@dkoaladkoala4774
@dkoaladkoala4774 3 года назад
Great video Bryan! Not sure if you are familiar with options wash sale rules, but just wanted to throw a question here just in case - say I buy a call option for SPY on 5/1, close it on 5/5 at a loss. Then open another call position 5/20 on SPY with different exp date/strike/Greeks, would the loss be added to my newly opened 5/20 call premium that I pay as the cost base? I use TDameritrade, I don’t think I have observed that but it could be me not paying enough attention on that....
@dkoaladkoala4774
@dkoaladkoala4774 3 года назад
Also another quick question Bryan sorry - this one is just for stock - say I buy 1 share of stock abc on 5/1, and wait to sell it on 6/5 at a loss, then repurchase it on 6/7, would this repurchase trigger washsale? Or essentially I just need to avoid any buy back if there is a sale within 30 days prior?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Mario, glad you enjoyed the video and subscribed! So in your abc stock example, the repurchase on 6/7 would trigger a wash sale. So in that case, assuming you did not repurchase on 6/7, you would have to wait 30 days starting the day after 6/5 to record the loss.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
I'm not familiar with options wash sales, unfortunately. But please share any experiences you've had with wash sales on options!
@dkoaladkoala4774
@dkoaladkoala4774 3 года назад
Financial Fitness Thanks! This channel should be known by more people, really good contents that you have.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thank you! My next video is posting tomorrow. Please share my videos with people who would find them insightful as well.
@dannguyen9080
@dannguyen9080 3 года назад
This below is another tricky scenario of wash sell rule that I just learned today and I want to double check with you if this is correct. Thanks Buy 100 share of PG at $135 on 8/3 Buy 100 share of PG at $127 on 8/7 Sell both 200 share of PG at $131 on 8/10 135 x 100 = 135000 since sell at $131 , loss $4000 127 x 100 = 127000 since sell at $127 , gain $4000 Buy 100 share of PG at $130 8/15 130 x 100 = 130000 , but the loss of $4000 will be add to the new 100 share and make it to be $134000 because the loss of 4000 still be counted at a wash sell rule
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Dan, this question seems like my 4th example in my video. You are correct that the loss would be added to the shares purchased on 8/15 because of the wash sale rule, however it is not a $4,000 loss, it is $400. Hope this helps, please subscribe, like and share this video if you haven't already!
@dannguyen9080
@dannguyen9080 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 I add 1 more 0 to the number by miscalculated. Before I thought it at equal sell, but learned that it is not by looking at my basic cost in my portfolio. Your video is great. Thanks
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
I'm glad I was able to answer your question. Please watch my videos on Tax Loss Harvesting and real estate investing too: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bvtzYvGduuc.html
@babycutezz5665
@babycutezz5665 3 года назад
How do you calculate wash sale from multiple brokers? Thanks
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Each broker is independent and they would not be aware of trades from the other broker even though both accounts would be in your name. You should check with your CPA or accountant for more details on tracking trades, taxes and wash sales between accounts. It is usually helpful to try to limit the amount of accounts and brokers you use for the ease of figuring out your taxes.
@dylananddaddy
@dylananddaddy 3 года назад
Can the wash sale loss be applied to other stocks? Is it possible to actually lose all the "loss" and you can't claim the loss? Thanks.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Jake, if you have a wash sale loss on stock X it cannot be applied to stock Z. And yes, due to the wash sale rule, you could theoretically trigger a wash sale and that loss would be added back to the shares you either just bought or recently bought which would negate the loss. Once you have a wash sale on a stock you either have to sell those shares at a profit (above the wash sale adjusted cost basis) or sell at a loss and not repurchase for 30 days in order to record the loss for tax purposes. Hope this helps. Please subscribe and like this video along with check out my video on Tax Loss Harvesting.
@HammadKhanYT
@HammadKhanYT 2 года назад
From another video, I read something like this "You have close your positions by end of the year" to get claim the losses, is that true? For example I bought APPLE in Feb, sold it in March at a loss and then bout it again in August. Do I have to close the APPLE position by Dec 31 or I can automatically claim the losses since I did not buy for 30 days after I sold at a loss. Thanks
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Hammad, based on your example, since there were more than 30 days between selling Apple at a loss in March and then repurchasing Apple in August, the loss was realized from the March trade. Hope this helps.
@HammadKhanYT
@HammadKhanYT 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 great so that means, I don’t need to close the position at the end of the year for the given example. Thanks
@nichosmussic
@nichosmussic 2 года назад
Hi, what happens with foreign cash accounts? Does this rule apply? I don't pay taxes in EEUU. Thanks.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Nicolas, to be honest, I'm not sure. That is definitely something you should check with your accountant. Please like, subscribe and check out some of my other videos.
@youwierd
@youwierd 3 года назад
I have question, When I buy and sell make profit not lose without Wash Sale. Then can buy again same company next day or few weeks without 30 days? Or have to wait 30 days then buy again?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, if you make a profit on a trade, there is no wash sale. There would be no need to wait 30 days to buy again. Please subscribe, like and share this video!
@awu5636
@awu5636 3 года назад
Thanks for this video. I'm still a little confused! After watching the video. I fall into your second example. I'll use XYZ is the stock ticker and even numbers for the stock price. So I bought 50 shares of XYZ @ $20. I've been averaging down this whole time. So today, instead of putting a "buy" limit order for 2, I inadvertently put "sell" and yea it sold :( ....... So because of that, it caused the wash sale, since I have more than one lot of purchases. 2/21 - buy 50 @ 20 2/23 - buy 5 @ 18 2/24 - buy 2 @ 16 2/26 - buy 5 @ 15 So when I sold 2 @ 14 for 28 dollars. I had a realized loss of $12 dollars, because it sold from the lot on 2/21. It looks like the 12 was added to my lot of 5 at $18. So now, it shows "W" on that lot and new cost basis per share at 20.4 for those 5 shares. I hope I made sense and my questions are, Could I still buy more to average down or will this wash sale affect it? Since it's still on a downtrend, I still want to add more shares at a cheaper price. I'm planning to hold this stock long term. I just had a mental brain fart selling instead of buying. Also, will the Wash sale stay on my account until I sell off all the shares, or just until I sell off all of the 2/21 and 2/23 lot? Thank you!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching! I'll try my best to walk through your example. so you have a wash of $12 from taking that loss on the 2 shares. Now that you have that wash sale added on to only 2 of the shares that you already own ( _it wouldn't apply to all your shares if you own more shares than what was sold at a loss_ ) it won't go away until you take 1 of the following actions: 1) you specifically sell those 2 shares with the wash sale at a profit above the wash sale adjusted cost basis 2) until you sell all shares of that stock completely and not buy that same stock back or an option on that stock for 30 days ( _some shares could be at a profit or a loss_ ) 3) sell all shares at profit above the wash sale adjusted cost basis There is nothing stopping you from buying the same stock back and averaging down, but it could potentially cause additional wash sales later if you decide to sell any shares at a loss within 30 days of your most recent purchase of shares on that stock since you intend to continue averaging down. I speak to this particularly in examples 2-5 in my video if you want to rewatch those examples. If you were to keep selling some shares at a loss, the 30 days would keep resetting and the wash sales would keep increasing the cost basis of your existing shares. Hope this helps, please subscribe and like this video if you didn't already and check out my video on Tax Loss Harvesting too! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@awu5636
@awu5636 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thank you so much. Sorry I was editing the post while you were probably replying. Thought I'd make it more clear for you. I also thought the wash sale would add to only 2 of my shares, but it actually added evenly to all 5 of the second lot. That's what it showed on Fidelity. I just took the wash sale and divided it by the 5, and it matched perfectly for the price per share cost. I'm just glad it's only going to affect those 5. Perfect. Yea I'm going to keep averaging down and once I get to a decent amount of shares owned. I'm just going to hold them all past 30 days and sell all of it at once for a profit. I just told myself, you know, I sold 2 for 14 each, but I'll get those two back later for 13 each another day. Gotta find a positive out of a negative. I subscribed and will definitely check out your other videos. Thank you for taking the time and replying!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
No problem! And I'm surprised Fidelity would adjust it across 5 shares instead of 2 since only 2 shares caused the wash sale. But they have the ability to assign it that way so it makes sense. I was replying to you as you were editing! I'm working on my next video while you commented so stayed tuned. =)
@mikelara562
@mikelara562 2 года назад
So I’m new In stocks and it’s been quite fun but also difficult since there are many rules to go by socially wash sale, being one of the hardest to understand. My first question is that if I closed my position/ sold all my shares that I bought at different cost/time for a loss of $5000 on February 17. If I sold them at $6.75 and my cost was about $13 and If I buy them back on on Match 14, At a price of $6 what would be my scenario? Will $6 be my new share price? And am I able to report the loss of $5000? Hope it makes sense, just stressed out lol.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Mike, thanks for watching my video. Based on the scenario you mentioned, it sounds like there is a wash sale. Rewatch example 2 in my video where I explain how a wash sale is triggered. Essentially the cost basis on the shares that were repurchased at $6 would have the cost basis increased by the 5k loss from selling previously. At that point, you would not be able to use those losses for tax purposes unless the new shares were either sold at a profit above the adjusted wash sale cost basis or sold at a loss and not repurchased for at least 30 days. Work with an accountant on your taxes in regards to your trades. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@arturojardineriaymas
@arturojardineriaymas 3 месяца назад
I bought nvidia and sold at a lost. Then bought it back 1 week later where they added my lost to my cost basis and then sold again about a week after. I am now waiting 30 days. After those 30 days passed (in june 1st) if i buy nvidia again will they still add the lost to my cost basis or not anymore? What if I make sure to sell nvidia by November this year. Will I be able to claim that lost at the of the year?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 месяца назад
Hi Arturo, thanks for watching! Based on your question, after selling the most recent shares at a loss with the wash sale, there should not be a wash sale afterwards on the next trade assuming it's after June 1st. Hope this helps. Please, like and subscribe for more content in the future.
@stans1317
@stans1317 2 года назад
When if you take a loss on the stock but by the option with 31 days? Also, can you make a video on TTS, the requirements, and tax comparisons?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Stan, based on your question, if a stock is sold at a loss and then an option on that same stock is purchased within 31 days, it would cause a wash sale. Can you clarify what TTS is? Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales if you haven’t already. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@juangiraldo5
@juangiraldo5 2 года назад
Can you explain me this es example. A have a question if I bought 10 stock from PG at 10dollars and few days later I bought a 100 of the same PG stocks for 5 dollars, and 3 days latter I decided to sell all the stocks from PG at 8 dollars in general I won on my 100 stock, i loose on my 10 but in general the entire account went positive with a gain. Is this considering wash sale and I do have to wait 30 days to rebuy the same stock if the go lower on price? Or I. An rebuying the same stock the next following day. Thanks
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Juan, I review this in my second wash sale video, so please watch that also. It is a wash sale in your example because of when each bunch of shares were purchased and that the 10 shares were sold at a loss. Do not average the shares together when calculating rhe impact of wash sales. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my 2 latest wash sales videos. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@juangiraldo5
@juangiraldo5 2 года назад
So in that escenario I have to wait 31 days before I purchase any amount of this particular stock again to avoid the wash sale right?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
That would be correct!
@crizvee7247
@crizvee7247 2 года назад
I did a wash sale last year i sold half of a stocks shares for a losss and bought back is at a lower price , i been holding the stock for over 1 yr if i sell now still at a loss will it help my taxes or not?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, based on what you mentioned, if the position with the wash sale is still sold at a loss in 2022, it would only realize and impact your taxes for 2022. Those losses could then be used to reduce gains from other trades. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my latest video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@billay87
@billay87 3 года назад
Thanks for this very thorough explanation! I’m just wondering whether it would be a wash sale if, similar to your example #4, you: Buy 100 shares of PG at $135 on Aug. 3 Then buy 100 shares at $127 on Aug. 7 Then on Aug 10, you sell all 200 shares for $133/share. Meaning you lost money from the initial 100 shares purchase, but overall you profited from purchasing PG. If I want to buy PG again on Aug. 11, could I do that without it being a wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching and subscribing, I appreciate it! So I briefly mentioned this as the last bit of example #4, if there is no repurchase of PG within 30 days of selling at a loss, there is no wash sale. There would be a wash sale in your example due to the repurchase on August 11, but only on the first 100 shares purchased would have a wash sale of $200 based on the loss from the August 3 shares that were purchased at $135 and sold at $133. Hope this helps. Please check out my video on Tax Loss Harvesting if you haven't already.
@billay87
@billay87 3 года назад
Thanks so much!! Yes that helps very much. Liked and subscribed :)
@jprimemfp2187
@jprimemfp2187 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Wouldn’t there be a wash sale from the Aug. 7 purchase since it is considered a repurchase 30 days BEFORE selling? Theres a 61 day window of avoiding repurchase, which is about 30 before and 30 after selling. So that means averaging down is naturally a bad idea?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, there is no wash sale from August 7th because there were no shares sold at a loss yet at that point. Averaging down is usually what gets investors with wash sales from trying to buy at a better price.
@HammadKhanYT
@HammadKhanYT 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 I am confused as why would this be. wash sale, since the whole PG is considered as one entity and overall he is making profit. This means by waiting for 30 days, he can claim loss in the $135 shares that he bought while overall he is winning?
@thai4194
@thai4194 3 года назад
hi what if I buy the stock within 30 days after selling it, but hold it for a long term (5 years) after? will I still in trouble with wash sale? thanks!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Once the wash sale is on the new shares purchased within the 30 days, even if you decide to hold the new shares for 5 years, the wash will still be added to your cost basis.
@kathleendeng5343
@kathleendeng5343 3 года назад
When you said the wash/loss would be added to the cost basis, does it mean actually I paid higher money on the new purchases? Let say I made 800d loss, and I repurchased it again within 30 days with the same stock and paid 1000 for it. Did they deduct 800d from my account again and adjust the cost basis total of 1800? Thanks
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Kathleen, I actually answer this question as my first example in my latest wash sale video so please watch that as well. But to answer your question, your broker should only take out what you paid for the new shares, the wash sale loss is an accounting adjustment. So when you sold at a loss initially that was when it was counted. If your broker took out the extra amount of the loss on the new shares also, it would be double counting the loss. Please like, subscribe and check out my latest wash sale video where I answer wash sale FAQ’s ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@bellaangelo8064
@bellaangelo8064 3 года назад
So a wash sale is just trying to declare a loss for tax? Basically?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, welcome to the channel! If a wash sale occurs it would prevent you from declaring a loss. But knowing how the wash sale rule works based on where your positions are can help you make a choice to either avoid a wash sale or take a wash sale.
@Dark_Pool_Trader
@Dark_Pool_Trader 6 месяцев назад
Question : is it 30 or 61 days . I've seen both timeframes mention by other people . Which one is the correct time frame ?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 6 месяцев назад
Hi, technically both are correct because the the 61 day reference includes the 30 days before the trade and 30 days after. However, it gets confusing when explaining it that way so I have always explained it with just 30 days and giving common examples of scenarios that people might encounter. Hope this helps. Please like and subscribe.
@LmaoDennis
@LmaoDennis 2 года назад
Let’s say I bought 100 contracts of SPY @ 5.00. On the same day, I first sold 50 at 4.95 for a loss of 250 and sold 50 at 5.5 for a gain of 2500. What rule would apply here?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
The wash sale rule would still apply in that scenario, but I'm not sure exactly how it will add to the cost basis for options. I would check with your accountant or CPA on how the cost basis is adjusted from a wash sale on options.
@carlmazziotti221
@carlmazziotti221 3 года назад
I have a quick question. I was told that if you buy back a loss stock in under 30 days you lose the ability to take the loss even if you sell it again at an even larger loss within or after that 30 days. I was told that i would only be allowed to take the loss for my repurchased shares. I believe that to be incorrect. Your example makes much more sense to me. So to be clear the loss is simply added to the cost basis of the repurchased shares. That's no big deal as long as I don't need those losses to offset any other gains. And if I close out my position I still get to take the loss. I still am able to realize 100% of my actual losses. Am I understanding that correctly?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Carl, you are understanding it correctly based on my examples. Thanks so much for watching my video! The wash sale rule negates being able to record the loss for tax purposes if you purchase the same security before or after selling at a loss within 30 days. It's possible to record a loss even with a wash sale by closing out the position entirely or specifically selling the shares with the loss. I actually speak to this in my second video on wash sales. Please like, subscribe and watch my latest wash sale video on how to remove a wash sale. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@Jfokes
@Jfokes 3 года назад
I’m getting confused. So let’s say I bought stocks then sold them at a loss and realized I shouldn’t have sold them and bought back the next day. The total loss that I had gets permanently put on my new buy in price for the same stock I purchased the next day.? So for example I bought Tesla at $498 then I sold at $351. The next day i realized I shouldn’t have done that so I bought Tesla again at $387. So I took a loss of -$147 a share. So if I’m understanding this right the loss off $147 a share gets added onto my new buy in at $387 so now the cost basis of my shares are now permanently $534 a share? Sorry I’m a little slow with all this. I appreciate your reply thanks.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching first of all! But to answer your question, yes that's correct. Your new cost basis given your example would be $534 per share because the loss is negated by the wash sale rule. The wash sale would be permanent until you sell the shares, even if sold at a profit at a later date. Feel free to ask any follow up questions too as there are so many variations of how wash sales can come into play.
@Jfokes
@Jfokes 3 года назад
Financial Fitness thanks for the reply!
@FellowOfHammer
@FellowOfHammer 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Good example, and already subbed :) I think im starting to understand, but I am still lost as to How would this new cost basis affect taxes? Ty
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! Understanding how the wash sale rule works may change some of the investment decisions you make. By understanding how the wash sale rule works, you can potentially make decisions such as knowing how to avoid a wash sale or what your choices are once you have a wash sale on a stock. The wash sale simply negates a loss on a stock if purchased again within 30 days of selling at a loss. The main issue with wash sales is causing a wash sale unintentionally and that usually is the first time many investors hear about a wash sale. For instance, if it was your intention to take a loss on a stock, but you didn't know about the wash sale rule, you might buy it back by accident within 30 days. If you had known, maybe you wouldn't have bought it back in that timeframe and waited 30 days so that the loss can be used for your taxes. On the contrary, if you know about wash sales, maybe you would buy back a stock even knowing that a wash sale would be added to your cost basis because it dropped in price so much that it seems like a good buy or undervalued stock at that point. I'm just giving some basic scenarios. I also discuss how taking losses for taxes work in my Tax-loss harvesting video so please check that out as well: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@harrymont3087
@harrymont3087 2 года назад
Great Video. Quick question though. So I purchased FB stock and it tanked right after earnings and I'm planning on selling it because I see no sign of it recovering. It can't seem to find a support level and just keeps going down. I've never purchased this stock before, yet I see a W next to the stock. Indicating I got flagged for a Wash Sale. I don't understand why when this is the first time I've ever purchased this stock. Should I sell it or will the wash sale fall off if I hold it for 30 days? Thanks,
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Harry, thanks for watching! You should call your broker during a trading day and see if they can explain what may have happened. If you've never bought or sold it before then I'm not sure how it could be a wash sale. If your broker tells you it is a wash sale for some reason then waiting 30 days would not remove the wash sale. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@AEpsalm
@AEpsalm 3 года назад
Help I accidentally sold 25 shares ! I was in fidelity and they changed aspects of the website .I thought I clicked buy but I actually clicked sell. It was an honest mistake. When I realized it I bought on the same day 50 shares ( I had no idea a wash rule existed) I’m new to this .can you tell me what this means in simple terms.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, I'm not understanding what exactly happened, so you will have to explain it again with dates of when each happened. Please watch my video, I describe what a wash sale is and how you might trigger it in the examples I give. It sounds like example 1 and example 2 from my video might be helpful. I'm happy to answer your question, but be more clear on what happened when and how many shares were either bought or sold.
@AEpsalm
@AEpsalm 3 года назад
Financial Fitness ok I was in my iPad getting ready to BUY stocks but I somehow mistakingly clicked SELL. Then I saw the wash sale symbol.I panicked and then bought shares within the same hour( I had no idea what a wash sale was) so just wanted to know how bad this mistake will affect. (I am a busy mom of six) I was distracted when the kids were speaking to me
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
@@AEpsalm ok. The shares that were sold were at a loss then otherwise the wash sale would not have come up. However much the loss was from selling the shares, it should add that to your purchase price on the new shares you bought afterwards. Only you know how many shares you sold or bought. Please refer to example 2 in my video for more details.
@meatloafschannel9896
@meatloafschannel9896 3 года назад
Please explain iff averaging down and selling all will trigger the wash sale
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, it depends on the order that you do them and whether you take a loss or not when selling. In the order that you mentioned, averaging down and then selling all shares wouldn't trigger a wash sale. It would only trigger a wash sale if some of those shares that were sold at a loss and the same stock was repurchased within 30 days of selling at a loss. I go over this in examples 2-4 in my video. Hope this helps. Please subscribe and like this video!
@michaeljohnsonofficial
@michaeljohnsonofficial 3 года назад
I have a question. If I purchase a share of a stock at let’s say $500. I sell it at $550. And I buy it again at $500. And sell it at $550. And purchase it again at $500 and sell it again at $550. How do I calculate the taxes? Well I need to pay the taxes on only the $150 that I gained?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Mike, that's correct you would pay taxes on the gains of $150 based on your example. Please subscribe and like this video. Check out my video on tax loss harvesting too.
@pyrolouie166
@pyrolouie166 3 года назад
I have a question, let's say I day trade and have alot of wash sale stocks that are the same that I trade over and over, can I make all the wash sales on them go away and start fresh if I sell everything and wait the 31 days and have my account losses realized and back to normal. I want to start my account fresh from these wash sales from everything.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, yes you can do that. That is the only way to clear out the wash sales by closing out the positions and not buying them back within 30 days. The only other way would be to book a profit instead of a losses. Hope this clarifies it for you. Please subscribe, like and share this video! Check out my video on tax loss harvesting too.
@pyrolouie166
@pyrolouie166 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 so generally what some people would do to avoid wash sales and get their losses realized for the year is at the end of the year for tax time say around November or December they would sell all their stocks and options and stop trading wash sale positions for 31 days going into the new year so your taxes aren't messed up and have a chance of getting a corrected 1099 form, is this correct? Or just in general avoid wash sales whenever possible to not have these problems. , Thank you for the answer! I will subscribe and also like 👍
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Both are definitely good options. There is nothing wrong with closing everything towards the end of the year or just avoiding wash sales. The first option I think is slightly better, I think avoiding all wash sales can potentially cause you to make some decisions you otherwise might not have over time.
@wadeoliver5631
@wadeoliver5631 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 what do you mean by book s a profit instead of losses in terms of wash sales? I have aapl that says wash sale but I’ve finally started to make money. I was backwards on it.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
If you have a wash sale from a loss on a stock that was disallowed by the wash sale rule, your broker will adjust the cost basis to add the loss onto the shares you still own or just purchased. So if you sell at a profit, it would have to be higher than what the adjusted cost basis is from the wash sale. The only other alternative is to sell at a loss, typically it's slightly harder to make a profit once a wash sale is added to a cost basis.
@buddsidewinder7778
@buddsidewinder7778 Год назад
love your work. Question. If i cost average down on ticker RIOT.. then the next day i sell a CC on my entire lot... is that a wash sale??
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Hi, thanks I appreciate it! I'm not sure I entirely understand your question. But if you sell all the shares at the same time (where some are at a loss) there should not be a wash sale unless you repurchase the same stock again within 30 days from when those shares were sold at a loss. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my other wash sale videos. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@buddsidewinder7778
@buddsidewinder7778 Год назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thanks for your reply and i am sorry i was kinda vague with my question. If someone has 1000 shares of a stock, and then "cost avg down" buying 2000 more shares at a lower price. Then does not sell the shares just holds on to all 3000 shares . Now the next day you sell a covered call on all 3000 shares. would the act selling a covered call on the 3000 shares be a wash sale? In other words would the act of "cost averaging down" be considered a lose? (even though its an unrealized lose because you are still holding the 3000 shares ...just writing a sell option of a CC.)
@buddsidewinder7778
@buddsidewinder7778 Год назад
@ "loss"
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
You should check with an accountant to be sure, but I don't believe it would count as a wash sale because nothing has been realized yet.
@realmathinaminute
@realmathinaminute 2 года назад
Great video!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Thanks so much! Please check out my second video on wash sales on how to remove wash sales and like and subscribe for more content.
@ELPATRON839
@ELPATRON839 3 года назад
Help me understand this better so if I’ve sold at a loss of $ 1000 an I keep buying back an reduced my 1000 dollars to 300 dollars is that right ? Just subbed
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for subscribing! Can you clarify your question a little bit? It sounds like you sold at a loss of $1,000, but after that I'm not sure where the $300 comes in. If you sold at a loss of $1,000 and then you buy the same stock back within 30 days, that $1,000 is added to your cost basis of the new shares once you buy it back. Alternatively, if you wait to buy it back until day 31 or after, there should not be a wash sale.
@ELPATRON839
@ELPATRON839 3 года назад
Nook so I’m at a loss but I bought back the same stock the next day so I’m saying if I bought back an made a gain of 700 now I only have 300 dollars to go to come up even an will that eliminate my wash sale ?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Ok, in your example then, if you only made $700 that would not clear the wash sale. There would still be a $300 wash sale to be added back to your cost basis if you purchase the same stock again within 30 days, unless you wait 31 days to take a $300 loss. In order to eliminate the wash sale, you would have had to make a gain of over $1,000 when you sold it the second time. Then if you buy shares a third time within 30 days, there would be no wash sale. Hope this helps!
@ELPATRON839
@ELPATRON839 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 thanks
@vamsigudipati
@vamsigudipati Год назад
Hi, if you sell a stock for a profit and buy within a month and sell it at a loss. Can I claim the taxes for capital loss? For example: I bought 100 shares of XYZ at $6 and sell 100 shares at $10 making a profit of $400. Now if I buy back 100 shares at $10 within 30 days and sell them at $5 beyond 30 days, I have incurred a loss of $500. Now since I bought the same shares within 30 days, it is considered a wash sale and I cannot claim $500 loss but I have to pay taxes for the $400 gain I made from my first trade? Here I sold the second lot after holding for well beyond 30 days. Thanks in advance!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
There should be no wash sale in that instance since you made a profit initially so the next shares you purchased should not have had any wash sale impact. Unless I'm not understanding the sequence of trades in your sample scenario, when you proceeded to repurchase, the shares should not have had any cost basis adjustment. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my 2 other videos on How to remove wash sales and FAQ's from other viewers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@benjsakamoto123
@benjsakamoto123 2 года назад
Thank you for your video! I have question. As I understand wash sale impact you if you buy similar or same stock both 30 days before and after stock sale. I have XYZ stock that i bought for $100 and sold at loss $90 on 11/1. I than bought XYZ at $80 on 11/2. I sold XYZ on 11/3 at $81. On 12/4, will I be able to claim my loss. What if on this hypothetical example I had bought out or call option on XYZ stock on 10/30. Will this change scenario?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching. Based on your scenario, yes it seems like the loss could be realized by 12/4 even though there was a wash sale involved. Even with the option I think it can be realized as a loss. But you should check with your accountant/CPA on wash sales especially when they involve a mix of options and stocks. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my other videos.
@benjsakamoto123
@benjsakamoto123 2 года назад
Thank you so much ! Very educational!!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
No problem! My other video on wash sales is about how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@benjsakamoto123
@benjsakamoto123 2 года назад
Thank you so much you are excellent teacher!!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
I appreciate it, thank you so much! Please share my channel and videos with people that might find it helpful as well.
@rickhanson9678
@rickhanson9678 2 года назад
Awesome video and very helpful... I will subscribe. So I'm going to just ask a simple question... So regardless of how many trades I've done and how many wash sales I've accumulated in 2022, if I just make sure all of my positions are sold by December 1st, 2022 and I don't make anymore trades at all until say January 15th, 2023, then for tax purposes all of my previous wash sales don't mean anything and losses up to $3k are allowed?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
I answer this question in my second wash sale video, how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html Theoretically, yes because at that point if you held no positions all the losses would have been realized and up to 3k in losses can be deducted from income in a particular calendar year. I speak more to this in my video on tax loss harvesting as well. Hope my videos help! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@rickhanson9678
@rickhanson9678 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thank you for the quick response... So just one more question if you don't mind... There was a stock I traded about 4 months ago that generated a wash sale... I have not bought or sold this stock since but it still shows as a wash sale on my broker statement. Is that typical? and when I get my 1099 next year, do you think it will not show up as a wash sale there as long as I remain out of that particular stock? Thanks.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
It will still show as a wash sale on the 1099, this is normal and when the 1099 gets sent in January of next year, it will summarize for you short term/long term gains or losses along with disallowed losses which would be wash sales. If you want to see an example of what that looks like, it's in my most recent wash sale FAQ video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@rickhanson9678
@rickhanson9678 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thank you again... much appreciated... Have a great day!!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! Please like and subscribe if you haven’t already. 🙂
@valentin1028
@valentin1028 3 года назад
Does your adjusted cost basis due to a wash sale loss mean that you pay taxes on losses even if you had no gains? I'm still confused by the "cost basis adjustment" that happens after a wash sale. Can someone help. Thank you.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Valentin, once you have a wash sale adjustment that simply means you aren't allowed to record that particular loss for tax purposes. You're not paying taxes on a loss when this happens. However, if you decide to try and remove the wash sale so you CAN record the loss for taxes then most likely you would either have to close out the position entirely and not repurchase for 30 days or sell at a profit above the wash sale adjusted cost basis. I speak about this in my second wash sale video on how to remove wash sales and in my tax loss Harvesting video. Please like, subscribe and check those out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@valentin1028
@valentin1028 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 thank you so much for your timely response. I'm such a novice when it comes to the tax code and its relation to stock trading. I'll definitely watch more of your videos.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
No problem, glad I could answer your question. Please like and subscribe!
@edisonyoutification
@edisonyoutification 3 года назад
Hi, so if I sold a stock at a loss and used the remaining money to purchase a different stock right after selling. Would that be considered a wash sale? Are you referring to that for it to be not a wash sale I have to hold the money I got from the sale loss for 30 days?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching! If you sold stock X at a loss, and then use the proceeds to buy stock Z, that would not cause a wash sale. A wash sale would only occur if you sold stock X at a loss and then within 30 days of selling at a loss, repurchase stock X. The repurchase would then have the loss added to the cost basis to disallow the loss. Hope this helps. Please subscribe and stay tuned for my next video on wash sales!
@edisonyoutification
@edisonyoutification 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 thank you for answering that. So after 30 days of the selling a stock at a loss and I repurchase the same stock it won’t count as a wash sale? Let’s say i bought the stock back after selling at a loss and purchased back at a higher price within 30days, would that mean none of the loss from the sale will count?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Correct, so by repurchasing within the 30 days after selling at a loss, it basically would keep repeating by taking the loss and adding it to the cost basis on the repurchase. Please check out my new wash sale video I posted yesterday where I go over additional examples of Wash Sales and speak to this as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@edwinolavarria595
@edwinolavarria595 2 года назад
Question: Sold stock at a loss and within 30 days was assigned on a short Put and so repurchased the same stock. The short position was entered into in excess of 60 days prior to my incurring the loss, would this fall into a wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Edwin, thanks for your question. Based on the scenario you mentioned, it sounds like this would be a wash sale, but please check with your accountant as well to confirm. Like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@Lee-ws8we
@Lee-ws8we 3 года назад
Thanks Financial Fitness, this is the best explanation of the wash rule I have seen. How serious of a penalty is there for a wash rule violation? I don't want to jeopardize my account over these wash rules..I got hit last week with 2 wash rule penalties, never knew of it... I currently own stock that got hit on the last purchase I made, previously I sold 100 (all) shares at $4.92 because of a continue decline of price per share, 20 days later bought 100 shares of same stock at $4.25 and got hit with the wash sale tag, cost basis have been adjusted, do I have to wait 30 days before I can sell it or can I sell it now and then wait thirty days before any further purchases of this company? Also when I look up my history the dates of purchases/sales of stock sometimes are different than closing date for that transaction, the thirty day rule should probably start with closing date correct? I am just a novice stock trader, and I wasn't trying to get one over on the system.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching! So the penalty from the wash sale rule is when the loss that is disallowed is added back to the repurchase in your example. The 100 shares sold at $4.92, the amount of loss when that bunch of shares was sold should have been added back to the cost basis when you bought the next 100 shares at $4.25. Since you already have the wash sale on those 100 shares, you have the ability to sell them if you want to and take the loss and then wait out the 30 days to start clean again before executing another trade on that same stock. Though, if you feel you bought the shares at a good price even with the wash sale, you don't need to sell them just to remove the wash sale. The method for counting out the 30 days is once you sell, the next day counts as the first day, then count out the 30 days which includes weekend days. You would then be allowed to repurchase on day 31 with no wash sale. I'm actually in the process of making another video with even more examples of wash sales that cover this exact question you have. So stay tuned and subscribe so you don't miss it, hopefully I'll wrap it up this week. Please subscribe, like this video along with checking out some of my other videos like on Tax Loss Harvesting and Margin Trading!
@Lee-ws8we
@Lee-ws8we 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thanks!
@chih330
@chih330 3 года назад
So in order to avoid the wash sales I have to sale ALL my positions and waited out 30 days ? If not I’m stuck with wash sales right , unless I liquidate all my positions? ? I’m trying to understand this let’s say ,For example last week on Monday I bought 100 shares Apple and this week also on Monday I bought another 100 shares but then I sold 199 shares at a loss on this same week next day which is Tuesday , so that means my loss is attach to cost basis of that remanining one share and never able to capture the loss even though 30 days have pass unless I sell that one remaining shares? By the way thanks for explaining wash sales
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Chi, happy to answer this for you. In your example, yes the loss would be added to the cost basis of the remaining 1 share, which is the result of the wash sale since the 100 shares were only purchased 1 week apart. The wash sale only goes away after eventually selling the remaining 1 share at either a loss ( _and waiting 30 days before buying again_ ) or a gain. It's easier to try to avoid a wash sale instead which is why most of my examples are around avoiding wash sales. But in your example if you waited 30 days after you bought the most recent 100 shares, that would allow you to sell either bunch of 100 shares without a wash sale, as long as you don't buy Apple again for another 30 days, which I illustrate in my third example. Hope you found this helpful, let me know if you have any follow up questions. Please like this video and subscribe if you haven't already!
@chih330
@chih330 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 you mention “the wash sales goes away after waiting out 30 after selling at a loss “ so in the earlier example I sold all 199 share except for one share left and now 30 days have pass does it mean I can deduct the loss from 199 shares or no since I still have possession 1 share of stock ? And second question is let’s say I bought abc stock on January 1st and on January 29 I bought more abc stock the 30 day window starts January 30 for January 29 what about January 1st , what is it’s beginning 30 day window ? Is it January 2nd or January 30 since I bought more stock within 30 days window , thankyou for your time
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
So for your first question, if you still had the 1 share, I should clarify that the wash sale would stay on that 1 share indefinitely until it was sold. Once you have a wash sale, it won't just disappear. There are only 2 options to get rid of a wash sale once you have a wash sale, eventually sell at a loss and then not buy back for another 30 days or sell at a gain if you can overcome the additional cost basis from the wash sale. In your second question, the 30 day window is always from your most recent purchase, so January 30. I just posted a new video on Tax Loss Harvesting, check that out when you can.
@tcp102008
@tcp102008 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. My situation is exactly in your example #5. I bought a same stock in three different days within 30-day period, and I sold all at once also within 30 days. Therefore, I can claim a tax deduction on my loss as long as I will not buy that same stock within 30 days after the day, I sold them all. Would you mind confirming what I have just described is correct?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Yes that's correct. I'm so glad you found my video helpful! Please like, subscribe and check out my other videos on Wash Sales too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@tcp102008
@tcp102008 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 I did like and subscribe. This video is awesome. it saves me a ton of headache.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Thanks so much, I appreciate it!
@kimjacobi1393
@kimjacobi1393 2 года назад
One question. Once the shares are washed are they done? For example, buy 100 shares at $12, 100 shares at $11.5 and 100 shares at $11. Sell 300 shares at $11.75. 10 days later but 100 at $11.5. A wash sale is then triggered on the original 100 shares @12. Could you then buy 100 more with no wash sale because the original 100 @ 12 have already been washed? Thanks.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Kim, thanks for watching. Yes that would be correct! Please like, subscribe and check out my other videos as well.
@Unclebuns72
@Unclebuns72 2 года назад
So if I wanna get out of a stock I’ve lost 80% on can I take that loss in January and use it against any gain in that same year ? ie can I take a long term loss before a long term gain but they both have to be in the same year?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Yes as long as they're in the same calendar year
@Unclebuns72
@Unclebuns72 2 года назад
Thanks
@MusicLuv80
@MusicLuv80 3 года назад
I understand that if you sell a stock and lose money you should not buy the same stock within 30 days for tax write off but I saw some article saying you should not even buy a similar stock. For example if I bought Tesla and lost money and sold it, but few days later I buy Nio then I would not be able to get a tax wright off on Tesla stock. Is this right?
@pyrolouie166
@pyrolouie166 3 года назад
I'm trying to figure this out as well, fuck the irs man
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi, they are different companies and stocks, they should not impact each other in terms of trading and tax write offs. The wash sale rule points to a the same security/substantially identical security. So only trades on Nio would impact other trades on Nio in your example. Please subscribe, like and share this video if you haven't already.
@Jon-6969
@Jon-6969 2 года назад
Is it 30 business/trading days? Do sat and Sunday count?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Jon, I answer this in my latest video on wash sales. Please check it out where I answer new FAQ's that I've gotten from subscribers. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@brandontu8837
@brandontu8837 3 года назад
Let’s say you sell a set of shares at a loss. You repurchase(they get wash sale), then you buy again(no wash sale). But you sell all at the same time at a loss again. Would both losses be added to the next purchase’s adjusted cost basis?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Brandon, based on your example both losses would be added to the cost basis on the next most recent repurchase. Please like and subscribe for more content.
@LadyCebuana
@LadyCebuana 3 года назад
Thank you!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
You're welcome! please subscribe, like and share this video! Check out my video on tax loss harvesting and margin trading too.
@debrahuynh4574
@debrahuynh4574 3 года назад
If you sale a stock and make a profit, you can buying back the same stock at a lower price?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Debra, that's correct! Please like and subscribe and check out my latest video on wash sales too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@asifing24x7
@asifing24x7 Год назад
I think I already know the answer to my question but I am going to ask anyway since I want clarification. In example 4, your average is $131 for the 200 shares that you own. What if you were to sell all 200 on August 10 at share price of $132/share; would you incur a wash sale for the 100 shares initially bought at $135 (which would be at a $3 loss per share since we sold at $132/share) if you were to buy back these shares within a 30 day period?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Yes, that would be correct. It would be a $300 wash sale based on your question.
@mohammadamanrahmani3502
@mohammadamanrahmani3502 3 месяца назад
What if i average down my stock and sell it for profit is it considered a loss or wash sale loss! I buy 100 shares for 300 and buy another 100 shares for 100 my average price will be 150 a share and i sell all of them for 160 per share do i lose or gain?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 месяца назад
Hi Mohammad, thanks for watching. I review an example similar to this in 1 of my other wash sale videos so please check those out also. Like and subscribe for more content. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@williampennjr.4448
@williampennjr.4448 8 месяцев назад
What if ,within 30 days, I buy a stock averaging down my cost basis, but then sell the same number of shares at a higher price but that is still lower in price than the lot that I sold? Is this still a wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 8 месяцев назад
Hi, I'm not clear on the timing of the scenario you mentioned, but it sounds like it probably would have a wash sale because of buying to average down and selling soon afterwards. Check out my other wash sale videos on how to remove a wash sale for some other FAQ's. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fl2vRtUkyoA.html
@ahsoka6807
@ahsoka6807 Год назад
So I just want to know how this affects my profit. Say I don't want to write my losses off for tax purposes like I just accept however much I losy in my account and don't want to seek a write off on the loses. So say I made 90k that year trading. Along the way I sold a stock multiple times in one day and that stock went up and down and I sold at both the high and low as most scalpers do. Are you telling me that when I sell it at a loss and buy it back again that I'm paying extra for the difference between the loss and the price of the share?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish but wash sales are not optional. If they happen you can't take the deduction unless you eventually realize it into a gain or loss. You should work with an accountant to assist you with your specific situation.
@daviderecine9260
@daviderecine9260 3 года назад
Question. I'm just trying to figure out if a wash sale removes money from your account to adjust for the new cost basis. Example: I buy 1 share of XYZ @ $10, I sell for $5. So I now Have a $5 wash sale, If I buy back the stock @ $1 (before 30 days) The new cost basis will be $6. My question is.... Is $6 taken out of my funds? Or is just $1 taken out of my account, but the cost basis is $6 to sell... This is the part I don't understand. Is more money being removed from the account due to a wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Davide, that's a good question! In your example, the cost basis that is added back is an accounting adjustment. So only the $1 should be taken out after the repurchase, otherwise the loss would be counted twice. You should be able to check your brokerage account activity to see this if you encounter a wash sale. Hope this helps. Please subscribe, like and share this video! Also, check out my video on tax loss harvesting too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@daviderecine9260
@daviderecine9260 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Ty, I was reading everything I could on investopedia and asking around... I was over thinking things. Not a fan of wash sales, but now I know you can trade out of them or just wait 30 days and rebuy. You made a great video btw.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks so much! Stay tuned for more content soon.
@mizzou8263
@mizzou8263 2 года назад
If I sell at a loss in a energy stock can I buy a different energy stock. For example I buy fuel cell I sell at a loss can I buy gevo within 30 days. They are different so this would not be a wash sale. Right?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
There would be no wash sale in that case since it's a different company.
@mizzou8263
@mizzou8263 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Thanx fpr your help. I appreciate it! Absolutely love your education
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
No problem! Subscribe to stay tuned for more content in the future.
@tradelikespades690
@tradelikespades690 2 года назад
If I trigger a wash sale but then wait 31 days to buy more shares, could my cost basis be averaged down?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, based on what you mentioned, that's correct. But you don't have to wait the 31 days to average down either if the wash sale was already triggered and the cost basis was already adjusted onto existing shares. If shares are sold at a loss somewhere in between the trades to potentially trigger another wash sale on the same stock then the 31 days is relevant. Hope this helps! Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@BeefEnt
@BeefEnt 3 года назад
Great video
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Thanks! Please subscribe, like and share this video.
@westmanrentals2225
@westmanrentals2225 2 года назад
So if I don’t claim the loss on taxes, it doesn’t matter how many times I do a wash sale?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, that's not accurate. If you keep accumulating wash sales, those eventually add so much to the cost basis of your holdings that it may become extremely difficult to make a profit on them in the future. But if you don't try to realize losses frequently, it does make it a bit easier to manage all at once when you do eventually reconcile the wash sales in the year that you sell the stock positions with the wash sales. Hope this helps! Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@mrxit1
@mrxit1 2 года назад
Earned a sub from me ! I've been stuck in a stock since 2019, wash sale purchases in both years 2019 and 2020. But I haven't trade this stock since October 2020. I have 99k shares of which 17k are wash sales. The wash sales prices were adjusted by my Broker. I'll likely sell the entirety of the shares for a loss. Should expect any tax surprises? Thanks for your excellent content.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching and subscribing! I appreciate it. To answer your question, it sounds like you're already aware of the wash sales and on roughly how many shares, which means you should also have an idea of the total loss being realized. I guess the only surprise that I could think of is either if your accountant brings up something outside of this particular trade or depending on the calendar year it was sold in at the loss you're expecting. Not sure if you were attempting to use the loss for 2021 tax year (would have had to sell it in 2021 already) or 2022. Check with your accountant either way, but it doesn't seem like there would be too much of a surprise. Happy new year!
@vile7806
@vile7806 2 года назад
If I sell the stocks to offset some loss this year and rebuy the same stock within 30 days, does the wash sale apply for selling for profit?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Vi, thanks for watching. I'm not sure I quite understand your question. Can you rephrase it? Generally speaking, if you sell stocks at a profit they are not impacted by wash sales. If you sold a stock for a profit and buy it back again within 30 days, it should be fine. At least that's what it sounds like you are asking. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my other video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@vile7806
@vile7806 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 thanks for responded quickly. Liked and subscribed. I sold for some lost this year with baba. I currently make some profits with Tesla and I’m thinking about selling the Tesla shares to cancel some of the lost from selling baba shares. And after that I rebuy the Tesla shares again within 30 days. My question is does the profit I sold from tesla will help offset the loss from the baba lost? Or does the wash sale apply for selling and rebuy tesla again?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
The wash sale does not apply in this case because Tesla was sold at a profit. As I mentioned in my video, selling at a profit does not cause wash sales on the same stock. In this case you are talking about off setting losses with profits with different stocks. This is called tax loss harvesting, which I have a video on as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@pashpatitimsina
@pashpatitimsina 2 года назад
What happens if sold at $130 after averaging down? It's at a loss from first buy but at profit from second buy?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Pashpati, in examples 2-5 in the video, I review what happens after averaging down and some of the scenarios in which a wash sale could be avoided or a wash sale is triggered in example 2. Based on your question and the sequence of trades, it sounds like a wash sale would be triggered. Hope that helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@conggao5565
@conggao5565 2 года назад
Hi Brian, if I sold 100 shares at a loss but repurchase less numbers of shares, let's say 50 shares within 30days, can I still deductible loss for the 50 shares with the other exsiting 50 shares of new cost basis or no deduction for all 100 shares at all? Can you command a little bit? Thanks
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Cong, nice to hear from you again! So in a scenario where there was a wash sale and less shares are repurchased than were sold at a loss, the cost basis on the new shares is adjusted for the dollar amount of the loss. It would spread the loss from the 100 shares onto the cost basis of 50 shares. Does that make sense?
@conggao5565
@conggao5565 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 Got it, thanks for clarifying :). It is the total loss spread to less # of shares, at first I thought it was something else.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
No problem! Double check your trade activity anytime you think there might have been a wash sale to see how your broker adjusts for the wash sale.
@vinhlee3414
@vinhlee3414 Год назад
Hi, my 100 share Nvda position is 202$, I sold at 191$, and on my balances i loss 2060$ already. next day I rebought Nvda at 183$, and next day it show my average is 191$. Do u know why ? Please help. Thank u
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Hi, can you clearly explain the scenario again? It definitely sounds like there is a wash sale, but the calculation doesn't make sense, it seems like there may have been another trade on that stock that was left out. Otherwise from what I see here, the total wash sale adjustment would have only added $1,100 on the 100 shares unless when you repurchased at $183, you did not buy 100 shares and you bought a different amount of shares.
@fancyliving1290
@fancyliving1290 2 года назад
Hey there, quick question that I just cannot seem to find a specific answer for haha. If I bought 5 shares of stock x at 3270, then 7 days later bought 10 more shares of stock x at 3400, and finally sold all 15 shares of stock x 7 days later for 3150, would I have triggered a wash sale? Sorry if this is a stupid question. Great video!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi, thanks for watching. Your question is most similar to example 5 in my video where there wouldn't be a wash sale as long as after selling all shares at a loss, the same stock is not repurchased within 30 days. In your example, a wash sale would only be triggered if you were to repurchase that same stock again within 30 days. Hope that clarifies it for you. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on tax loss harvesting as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@fancyliving1290
@fancyliving1290 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your response, I really appreciate it. I hope you have a great day!
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
No problem!
@wadeoliver5631
@wadeoliver5631 3 года назад
I have a similar question as pyro had below. I have 44k in wash sales and -$17,000 according to my 1099-b. Apparently I made no money. I thought I did. How screwed am I?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi Wade, I wouldn't say you’re necessarily screwed just based on this because of the wash sales. It depends on the calendar year and if you’re talking about tax year 2020 or 2021. It sounds like you're talking about 2020 because the 1099's don't get fully compiled by brokers this early for the current tax year usually. For any tax year, you should work with an accountant to reconcile your trades and the rest of your income for tax purposes. For 2020, your trades are set and done with so there's not a whole lot you can do for trades, but you can offset it with other income or capital gains. Or carry them over into 2021 if they're not offset for 2020 taxes. For 2021, if there were wash sales, you can still adjust your trades so that the wash sales either become realized losses or profits. Either way, an accountant can provide you more precise guidance for your tax situation. Hope this helps and thanks for watching. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on tax loss harvesting as well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hznX5Ov8tfE.html
@googleuser3290
@googleuser3290 Год назад
So if you do buy back within 30 days after taking a loss, that loss can still be claimed as long as you sell that stock before December 31 and not repurchase again for 31 days? Would that mean you can keep going in and out of a stock you sold for a loss throughout the year and still claim those losses you had throughout the year as long as the stock is completely sold off by December 31 and not repurchased again for 31 days?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
It’s a terrible idea to do that intentionally first of all. Second, over the course of attempting that, there could have been trades that may have been profitable had there not been a wash sale involved during the calendar year. Though, theoretically you can choose to sell out of the position before the end of the year and claim the loss(es). However, that should be for tax loss harvesting and not done intentionally throughout the year to accrue wash sales unless it was completely accidental.
@googleuser3290
@googleuser3290 Год назад
@@FinancialFitness8 oh I think I get it. I wasn't trying to intentionally do that but for example I trade Tesla alot and some days I have wins and some days I have massive losses but still wish to get back into that stock within 30 days. So for me I was thinking about trading Tesla throughout the year with profitable trades and also massive losses but never wait 30 days. My strategy would just be to wait until December 31 to completely sell out of the position and not rebuy Tesla again for the entirety of January next year. This way I was thinking I won't owe mor e in taxes than gains because I believe the losses are claimable because I sold at end of year and not reenter for 31 days?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 Год назад
Because of the wash sale rule, you would likely end up taking more losses than profits from attempting to not wait out the wash sales 30 days throughout the year.
@lville88
@lville88 2 года назад
One more question about the wash sale rule. What if I buy stock A at $100, sell at $90, buy back at $85, then sell at $80. All within 31 days. Overall I took a big loss, but does a wash rule apply in this situation too? Are my losses disallowed?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Yes, a wash sale would apply in that scenario. The cost basis would be adjusted on the $85 shares to $95 depending on how many shares were purchased initially. When the shares are sold at $80 there is still a loss, but to realize it as a loss for tax purposes, the same stock cannot be repurchased within 30 days from that date of when it was sold at $80.
@lville88
@lville88 2 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8 then I feel like my 1099 might be wrong. So I bought and sold the same stock back in July several times. I took a big loss on it. Then I didn’t touch it ever again after July. The wash sale disallowed is still showing on my 1099 form. Maybe I’m missing something?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Have your accountant check your 1099 to be sure. It should be reflected in the net number if it was realized into either a gain or loss. but there will be a separate line item on the 1099 for disallowed losses.
@isabellatavernier2145
@isabellatavernier2145 2 года назад
What about commission, does that trigger a wash sale ?
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 2 года назад
Hi Isabella, trade commissions (if there are any) should be considered as part of determining whether there is or is not a wash sale. Please like, subscribe and check out my video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@ajjalt2276
@ajjalt2276 3 года назад
one question: on example 4, little change on the question -> buy 100 shares of PG at 135 on Aug 3rd and buy 100 shares of PG at 125 on Aug 7. now my average cost is down to 130. what happens if you sell all 200 shares at $133 on Aug 10th with 300 profit. Wash sales will be added? lets its FIFO tax lot case.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
Hi thanks for watching! Based on your question, the overall profit would actually be $600 on the 200 shares and not $300. There is no wash sale after selling on August 10. However, if you were to repurchase again within 30 days of August 10, there would be a wash sale of $200 added to the next shares purchased. This is because of the 100 shares purchased at $135 were sold at a $2 loss per share. Hope this helps. Please like, subscribe and check out my latest video on how to remove wash sales. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JpQWtt0_6aU.html
@ajjalt2276
@ajjalt2276 3 года назад
@@FinancialFitness8yes you are right! $600 thanks for your quick reply. in addition to this reply... i was wondering.... what happens if you sell 200 shares separately like not selling 200 shares at once but 100 shares at 1pm and 100 at 1:05pm in the same day? because if its FIFO, there was loss from 135 which was purchased on Aug 3rd and there was extra 100 shares were made on Aug 10th.
@FinancialFitness8
@FinancialFitness8 3 года назад
No problem! If sold in separate trade executions that would trigger a wash sale based on your updated question. It sounds like you suspected that would cause a wash sale! I would think that new investors can sometimes accidentally trigger wash sales by doing separate trade executions depending on their positions in the same stock.
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