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What is atma-vichara or self-investigation? 

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@sriramanateachingsqa
@sriramanateachingsqa 2 месяца назад
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@thomasbrouwer2771
@thomasbrouwer2771 2 месяца назад
Thank God for this amazing teacher ❤
@31TL22
@31TL22 Месяц назад
🙏Thank You, Michael!🙏💖
@shaneashby5890
@shaneashby5890 7 дней назад
Michael, thank you for reminding me that all I need is to keep my attention on and in my I-Am 🙏
@arunachalaful
@arunachalaful Месяц назад
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@palanichidambaram
@palanichidambaram 2 месяца назад
From the practice point of view we don't have to worry about ego or Self. We should just pay attention to I am that we are, that we exist.
@bernhard1071
@bernhard1071 2 месяца назад
Yes, and that is very easy. We all exist without effort and that sense of existing is atma-swarupa. The problem is our addiction to this person and personality and a "life" which moves away our attention from just simple being to the illusion of life. That addiction is so strong that it can be only weaned away slowly over many lifetimes with atma-vichara. It is comparable with an heroin addict trying to wean off his compulsion to shoot up. Our addiction to have a "life", to be concerned what is happening with this body, our likes and aversion and so on, all that prevents us from *just being* . That compulsion is as strong as being a drug addict and only atma-vichara can remedy that. 🙏
@rajat3311
@rajat3311 2 месяца назад
@@bernhard1071 indeed. The problem is this constantly endlessly yearning mind. I can see this very clearly in my own experience.
@lazerlloyd1
@lazerlloyd1 2 месяца назад
Excellent explanation thanks
@sandycarter5300
@sandycarter5300 2 месяца назад
Thank you!
@domingosmsande9153
@domingosmsande9153 2 месяца назад
Knowledge is always incomplete. Who am I? I realize that knowledge is always limited. Beliefs, ideologies, scientific knowledge and philosophy are all limited. I see that knowledge, although limited, has its importance in daily living. But I want to see if it is possible to be free from the state of ignorance. Through real understanding of the limits of knowledge, can there be a quieting of all mental representations - about the Timeless, about phenomena and about myself? Is there any separation, any division? I need a great deal of discontent and great passion to investigate this. Who am I? Will I still resort to what is limited to get the answer? Is not my true nature unknowable from the point of view of the intellect? Isn't my true nature infinite, immeasurable, timeless?
@bernhard1071
@bernhard1071 2 месяца назад
Yes, from the viewpoint of the intellect or mind our true nature is unknowable since mind and our true nature (in its 100% purity) is mutually exclusive. However we all experience our true nature always since the ego-awareness and pure awareness are mixed and both are experienced. With atma-vichara we simple attend to "I am", simple being, without paying attention to the ego- or objectified-awareness. The more we attend to "I am" the closer we come to pure awareness.
@rupokdas8292
@rupokdas8292 2 месяца назад
Self discipline is can't over rule create samting never know between teacher and student I min guru sis same one come and bring violent between guru sis because it is different why of direction of knowledge fristibul we need to understand what is give direction divine power of soul Holly spiritual or song of bhajan krishna conseuness then if know self those knowledge can give answer if not leave it learning extra ordinary out of knowledge so guru santi yogis it give direction originally one why of highest dimension quality principles of light
@user-sf8xu4vh9w
@user-sf8xu4vh9w 2 месяца назад
namaste, it cant be explained clearer
@AjieshDNair
@AjieshDNair 2 месяца назад
With out knowing what atma is,how you are going to do vichara on atma? Unless you have seen the rope how you can get clarified it is not serpent? Rather you are saying to see the rope while seeing serpent. In sleep,there is no 'I am'.( it is 'தான்' not நான்').it is pure awareness. What you really need to do on vichara is about your sleeping awareness while being in awake.Arunachala Ramana 🙏
@bernhard1071
@bernhard1071 2 месяца назад
No, you are mistaken, in sleep there is "I am" only. "I am" is just another name for atma-swarupa. What is atma? Easy, it is our sense of existence, simple being (without a thought and a phantom mind). *One cannot see the rope while seeing the snake* , that is impossible. Who believes that has not understood the snake/rope analogy. As always, most people have no clue how to properly practice atma-vichara because they are confused to what to attend to since that is something beyond the mind.
@AjieshDNair
@AjieshDNair 2 месяца назад
​​@@bernhard1071 atma vichara and Jnana vichara are two things. Who is there doing inquiry on atma? Ego doing inquiry? Or atma doing inquiry into itself?.
@AjieshDNair
@AjieshDNair 2 месяца назад
@@bernhard1071 I sleep there only exists Bliss,it is nature of atma. It is not present state ' I am'.
@AjieshDNair
@AjieshDNair 2 месяца назад
@@bernhard1071 you can remember ' bliss ' existed in your sleep,but you can't say 'I am' existed in sleep. Because atma does not say 'I am',neither the physical body.
@bernhard1071
@bernhard1071 2 месяца назад
@@AjieshDNair It's a little complicated since atma-vichara is a non-dual practice. Initially the effort comes from ego since atma-swarupa is perfect and does not need to do anything, thus it is ego which moves its attention from phenomena (the "outside" world) to "I am" ("within"). Once the attention rests in "I am" ego vanishes and there is effortless being. That won't hold for long for the starting aspirant and attention is pulled away from "I am" and therefore ego needs to repeat to move attention back to "I am". With persistent practice one will stay longer with "I am" and we will sink "deeper" away from phenomena. That is proper atma-vichara.
@D.K.TyagiYT
@D.K.TyagiYT 2 месяца назад
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@rviswanathan
@rviswanathan 2 месяца назад
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