My personal opinion on the Jurassic Park film series canon, it would be ideal if there was a more comprehensive, more concrete agreement on what events in supplemental materials such as books, viral websites, video games and comics are canon. A cartoon or comic book series would be ideal (now we have a Claire spinoff book) to build upon these events in service of the films. Then, further down the line, imagine if DK books provided a complete Jurassic encyclopaedia like they do for the Star Wars movies.
Of course most of the “complete” SW encyclopedias these days ignore most of the franchise. The Ultimate Visual Guide, three volume encyclopedia and New Essential Guides are the best. I know, off topic. Back on JW we do too need an encyclopedia.
2:17 What baffles me is that not only did Muldoon survive the Velociraptor attack, but he also survived without a single scratch. No cuts, no scars, nothing. Especially when you consider how Bob Peck, the guy who played Muldoon in the movie, actually got scars from the Velociraptor model they used for that scene when it attacks him.
The raptors loved that hunting game and started licking his face in a playful way like your pet dog would. Muldoon didn’t understand at first and was scared shitless and screaming. Then he ran off in confusion and being paranoid he missed the chopper.
@@DarthUmbra yeah, the only reason the indominus went berserk is not because of solitude, they ran out of hot dogs, Hoskins is also a maniac that doesn't know costume from dino, so he hunts a mascot character
Can recommend Klayton's video reading of the comics. Since I watched those, I'll forever use *Robert "Snap-your-neck" Muldoon* when I talk about the character xD
Daniel Rednor, anyone could survive, just knowing the behavior and activities of the organisms your facing and of corse being careful, it’s not to difficult, the difficulty Isn’t in surviving, it’s in not getting caught, if you stay in the trees most things can’t get you, pteranodons don’t like flying below the canopy and the only thing dangerous to you are the sauropods and possibly the spinosaurus because the rex can’t see you if you don’t move and rexy will scare off the raptors when around not to mention the raptors aren’t good at climbing though they can climb, just stay in rex territory till the rex changes it’s territory close enough to a dock or something then get off the island and boom, yeah, you can indeed survive. Plus Maldoon is very capable, as for how he survived the encounter, one lucky shot on that raptor and a quick rush into the trees and Maldoon would be out of those raptors range in no time, adrenaline is one thing that makes humans overpowered, as far as I know. I believe that humans are probably one of if not the only creatures that has an excessive overly insane response because of adrenaline and that would give Maldoon an extra chance and that being that, yeah, learn the behaviors, be fit for survival, and be skilled and talented with hunting, Maldoon was all of the above. The more simple way of putting it is, anyone can survive, but only a badass can live. Welcome to Jurassic Park.
You see, seeing this kind of quality content shows how much you really love JP and how much you respect it. I can't find a channel quite like yours, and I really love and appreciate what you have done and what you are doing for this franchise and community. Your the best Klayton! And may life find a way for you to always have something to talk about JP ;)
For me I came to the channel when I was recommended the more graphic deaths in Jurassic park I was like “oh ok let’s see this” and I love how klayton goes into such detail
Something interesting is that jp lore was different from the real world at the start, they mixed Velociraptor/Deinonychus and even increased the size,The trex Was able of walking and running faster than how it normally would,the dilophosaurus was meant on that universe to keep that size and the venom spit ability and a bunch of other cool stuff.
actually: 1- the raptors are simply Vel.antrhopus 2- it's hinted that the dilohposaurus were the product of geneic tampering but aside from that, procompsognathus trassicus is one example of the alternate reality idea.
Yeah, the Rex were a little too fast... I'd say about 50% too fast when chasing the jeep, and that is compared to its most believed "sprinting" speed of roughly 30km/h. We don't know how fast it really was, although we do know it had feet adapted for fast movement (the central metatarsal bone squished between the external ones) and a mighty powerful Caudofemoralis longus muscle, which in non-avian Archosauromophs tends to aid the pulling back of the femur, giving more power to the stride. From this we can make an educated guess that Tyrannosaurus was actually pretty agile for its size. (I still doubt it could go 50km/h. That sounds more like its smaller cousin Albertosaurus)
If the next jurassic world film shows a peaceful ecosystem of dinosaurs with the original jp music at the end showing we cant cant contain life that would be great
I for one would definitely love to see themes and elements from telltale's game to be explored in the franchise's movie cannon. I feel as it would add a whole new depth into that reality, which could make for some really intense scenes. (Imagine if not only the Mosasaur, but the Tylosaur managed to escape the island; and if the Troodons began to breed more, and start to exhibit behaviors like the Compys in the novels)
Its also interesting because Trevarrow originally said in 2015 that World was a direct sequel to JP, making 2 and 3 not canon. But they obviously changed that later.
Muldoon popping up in the comics, cause he survived a hand-to-hand fight with a raptor, and Gerry Harding being a survivalist FILF, is my personal headcanon I take from the extended sources into the movie canons. Cause I like Bob Peck (RIP) and game!Gerry. ;)
The intro will never lose its mojo, ever. This franchise is my second favorite to Star Wars and i love the canonical movies this day. Badass video entertainment as usual, Klayton.
I love all things Jurassic, and I love the channel, Klay. Keep up the good work, man. Next thing you know you'll have 200,000 subs. Again, just throwing it out there, 'Parks & Rex'.
Finally someone that sees there is a difference between book and movie cannon. I hate it when people on RU-vid make videos and pull from both the books and movies to make a video that is supposed to be cannon. It's really nice to know someone knows the difference between the two cannons.
It's not that difficult! You got the manga as the core canon, you got the 80s/90s anime trio as the second, and you have the modern DB>Kai>Super as the third canon line. Anything else is non-canon funtimes.
@Johan Personally I disagree. If you watch GT, you're stepping back into the early 90s canon because GT followed off directly from Z. Kai is the "modern" canon to me because of how Super uses it for its flashbacks to the classical stuff.
Before I started watching this channel I didn't think much about how expansive and information-rich the JP movie franchise was or how deep it goes, but I learned a lot about it these past couple of months or so and I love how Klayton is so passionate and honest about the films and books. Glad I found this channel when I did
AMAZING as always! 👍🏻👍🏻 Personally, as far as supplemental materials to support the main film canon go, I consider "Jurassic Park: The Game" to be *more* canon with the films than say, the Topps comics. It definitely tries its best, mainly by tying up the first films' loose end of Nedry's Barbasol can of embryos.
This was an awesome video! As a Dragon Ball fan, canon and continuity is a jumbled mess, but like Jurassic Park, you can generally boil it down to two: the original Toriyama manga + Jaco and DB-, the 80s and 90s anime trio which base themselves off the manga (but aren't canon to it due to a LOT of additions and changes), and the "modern" canon of Dragon Ball, Kai and Super. Anything else is generally considered side stuff that's fun but not applicable to anything else (Android 21 isn't canon right now, much as I love her character). Anyway, I see Jurassic Park as the same: the two novels are obviously the basis for the movies, but their stories cannot be applicable to the movies due to how incredibly different the two storylines are.
GT IS CANON TO Z, SUPER IS CANON TO KAI GET OVER IT 1) The manga is secondary canon? Lol, no. The Manga first came out in 1984 while the anime didn’t come out until 1986. 2) the DB>Z>GT isn’t the main anime continuity anymore because DBZ had a whole load of filler added to it that wasn’t part of Toriyama’s original story and GT was made purely by Toei. The current main anime continuity is DB>Kai>Super, because Kai cut out most of DBZ’s filler and Toriyama himself directing worked with Toei on the DBS anime.
sorry but it is. more people watch dbz then read it. i'll take goku vs majin vegeta>>>the shit manga version of the fight that was fucking skipped ove.r never understand why people over hype the manga. most haven't even read it that act so hostile to the anime and circle jerk toriyamas work
GT IS CANON TO Z, SUPER IS CANON TO KAI GET OVER IT Popularity is irrelevant, the manga came out first and therefore it’s continuity is the primary canon.
by that logic the JP films are secondary canon, and the MCU is like 200th teir c anon since marvel had countless canons before MCu's. the main is the one most people know it for. what's next? GT isn't canon? Or only Disney 's shit versio nof sw is cano n? come on man ,you should know better.
Thanks for this video! I think we really need it. Until Jurassic World i didn't knew just how big this franchise is. I only knew about the books, films, some comics and some games, but there is so much around this franchise it's pretty hard to see through all of that. Oh and thanks for the information that predator was planed to be a sequel to rocky....i really want to see sylvester stallone punching a bunch of predators now, lol.
Your passion and dedication to authentic information regarding the JP franchise is inspiring to say the least! Well done! As for the canon question, you nailed it on the head when you said that the books and the films are different continuities. The movies will have a special place in my heart - they were a part of the household lol. I'm listening to the audiobook of the first novel right now. So far it seems like it has more depth than any of the films, but I guess that sort of world-building is needed when you're introducing the franchise.
Since the rights go back to the Crichton estate after JW 3 (the 6th in total) and they can make a new contract if they wish, they could end up making a "multiverse" For example, the Halloween film series. After the same number of films they made a new timeline, only paying attention to the first two. And now they've done it again. After the 6th Jurassic film, we could very well have remakes or direct sequels to the original film, like the Halloween film series.
well, i might say the t.rex theory was partially the case because ingen made their rexes like that. after all, they were working with what they knew at the time.
It's so good to hear a proper argument about different universes in relation to ours. I hate it when people argue that raptors don't have feathers etc. Well it's a different universe.
What is Canon? The Spielberg Films. Best collection of talent telling the story. Perfect team in 93. The dream team. John Williams, Stan Winston and etc.
THANK YOU so much for making your videos! It's so interesting and inspiring listening you. Thanks for taking all the time and making your videos, I really enjoy them! :)
This definitely cleared things up for me! Great vid. My personal favorite universe is the movie universe because that is what is going to be continued as time goes on.
Speaking of canon. I kinda wanna see a way for JPOG and JWE to both be in the same universe. And maybe someone going as far as trying to make the 2 games reasonably canon to the movies
I had not considered that about The Lost World website. Very interesting. I was so busy collecting the information that I hadn't even analyzed it to see the clear errors you brought up. This was a good listen. The tone of your voice made it sound as if you were really putting your foot down on some of the nonsense some people say regarding the canon, without being a dick about it. I'd appreciate more videos like this for sure.
I feel like Tresspasser would be a smart move for the movie series give us a Prequel get back to the roots . Edit: could the millions used for "cleaning up" the island have been a money laundering scheme
I love Jurassic Park Rampage. I forgot about it until today. Gonna go dust off my 20th anniversary edition digital Genesis console, with my OG cartridge and play through it this weekend.
Man, if Jurassic World 3 is the last movie I hope there will be a series about what happened on Site B and the InGen clean-up on Isla Nublar. And great video as always Klayton the amount of things I wish I knew as a kid that you've brought up now when im older has just re-ignited my Jurassic Park addiction.
Bro, I just want to say all bullshit aside... I genuinely appreciate everything you do when it comes to Jurassic Park trivia Etc. Honestly man, I moved to LA and work in film because of Jurassic Park. I'm pretty sure you and I are around the same age I was born in 84, I went to the movie when I was in o 9 years old I remember coming home from it being in the car it was drizzling it was a spring night it was literally the best thing in my life I saw it 11 times in theater as a nine-year-old on my birthday in November I saw with 11 of my best friend's! I'll never forget that year my life. I remember when it came out on VHS and my mom got it for me. if you recall, it came out two full years later bro! Two years it took that thing that came on VHS! It was in theaters for almost an entire year! Anyway I got it in my mom won't let me watch it till family night on Fridays where we get pizza and watching the living room sitting on a sleeping bag as a family it was great! I wore down that VHS man I must have literally watched it three thousand times I memorize that I know every single thing that's ever happened to that movie! it was hysterical! Then when the very first teacher came out during the Superbowl 1997 my brain exploded! I absolutely adore that movie just the same. At this point I was about three years in the making films myself. So I cared about making movies making movies making movies! I'll never forget when Jurassic Park 3 came out I was in high school, and my best friend got it as a bit torrent and despite the fact that I was super super anxious and want to see in theaters, I could not resist and I saw it on his computer in a crappy version. Frankly, I thought literally that it was a prank and that it was not the real movie. Cuz it looks so terrible. I saw it in theaters and unbenounced to me, I was so super super upset it wasn't fact the real film this said, there were elements of it I did enjoy whatever but it obviously wasn't anything close to the first two. Now the reason for this message! LOL. Clayton, my brother... My brother in Jurassic LOL. I genuinely appreciate everything you do. You literally dig deeper than anyone I've ever met when it comes to the Jurassic Park franchise. I didn't realize that it was that amazingly detailed. Now, in lieu of the praise I want to say not to be negative, but I feel as though you are literally just hold onto your childhood when it comes to the last two movies. Like The nostalgic Factor. We can sit here and talk about CGI and the fact that the first movies were obviously meant to look like real life shot on film in real light not using the cheap tricks like making it all with color grades of greens and oranges and reds and blues excetera but we don't have to do that we're going to talk about story, when I talk about all the fact that it wasn't on the level of the actor meeting point of view shots so you're actually there realistic Feats of succession from the actor's meaning things that actually would happen to people not the Superhuman crap that happens in the new ones all that stuff aside the movies or just fucking terrible bro I mean the other some nostalgic factors and their exciting to see the first one in the theaters but the second was fucking awful it was absolutely terrible it felt like I was watching a crappy horror movie honestly. I can't understand how you can deviate from that linear way of thought judging by how obviously intelligent, and obviously into these movies you are. I feel like the Nostalgia is literally draping over your whole lines of thought you just don't let it go. Because those movies are freaking terrible the first one me could have had some some relatively okay ideas in it and Lou the fact that the two brothers and the lack of character development or believability in the characters and their emotions jumping off of a cliff after dinosaur tries to bite them and they're talking about how he was excited he jumped despite the fact that is disheveled hair was completely different and all that crap dude the first movie Lex was literally terrified it was unbelievable this movie was just a bunch of crappy actors Generation X cynical actors in a cynical crappy movie like it was terrible it was freaking terrible none of the storyline even made any sense why did you check the paddock for his chip to begin with! Anyway I'm rambling I just was watching your latest thing and I'll always watch your videos I love them I think you're an awesome dude and I appreciate everything you do but I feel like you have to be more truthful with yourself and just say it for what it is my brother the last two movies freaking suckEd! LOL. Anyway have a great holiday my friend thank you for all you do keep doing it! Cheers, Ethan.
Greetings from 2022! Where "LEGO Jurassic World: Legend of Isla Nublar" exists and introduces a nice storyline. Where Camp Cretaceous is almost getting its fifth season... and every season is getting crazier. Oh and where there's 2 Jurassic World Evolution games that have an alternate take on the canon storyline. :)
Hey Clayton some people are saying that just because Isla Sorna’s buildings are powered by geothermal energy doesn’t mean that there’s a volcano on the surface of the island and they could just be getting it from lava flows under the island What do you think of this argument? I’ve also never heard jack Ewins confirm that there is a volcano on the surface of the island I hope he confirms this.
Xectarr but he didn’t bother to think that they could have gotten it from under ground lava flows? Unless it is confirmed to have a volcano on the surface of the island I still think Isla Sorna could be a place to put the dinosaurs.
@@Competitive_Bid_ to form a volcano yes but multiple spots on the island could end up spewing fountains of lava for extended periods of time witch could have a massive impact on the entire island
If your channel gets badly affected by COPPA I'd be (and I'm gonna go on a limb and assume many more people than just myself) would be properly sad. Fantastic content.
I personally prefer the book canon over anything for a few reasons. In the books, it is Hammond that dies on the island instead of Muldoon. The detail that they go into for the raptors and their breeding/the caves really helps explain what was going on in Jurassic Park well before Grant and the team show up.
At least someone on this site understands that some pieces of media are only canon to themselves (or that there's such a thing as different canons for a franchise).
the multiple velociraptors that appeared in Jurassic Park the Game were raptors that were shipped from isla sorna to isla nublar as replacements for the animals that the Big One killed. This is a proven fact. Go read Dr. Sorkin's journal on the Velociraptors. So their inclusion in the game does make sense
There is a timeline prop used in JW that is seen in the background that shows John Hammond's name is John Parker Hammond. Because that was seen first before Eli Mills used Alfred, that would make Hammond's full name John Parker Alfred Hammond.
So me and my bud were watching this vid, when you mentioned the illegal species my buddy turned to me gave me a sarcastic hipster sigh and said "there actually undocumented species" in a very hipster voice I've never laughed so hard in my life
1) In the books, Grant doesn't discover that tyrannosaurs can't see things that aren't moving until he gets to the island; 2) Grant subsequently discovers that it's not just the rexes; ALL dinosaurs that incorporate amphibian DNA, like maiasaurs, have this issue; 3) This is actually rebutted in the The Lost World, Levine stating that the rexes could see people who are standing still just fine, they just weren't hungry, having just eaten.
As a bridge from the subject: the problem with any canonity is the subjectivity that follows along with it. Canon is generally determined by a group that can allow appeals to authority to be ignored. We see this a lot when it come to cannon that splits between a literary medium and a film medium (Jurassic Park, Hellraiser, Marvel comics and a great deal more) we even see this in many denominations of religions and differentiation of mythology who worshiped the same gods/use the same stories.
That speech about jp-jw cannon is awesome and how dinos in our world may be feathered and small (raptors) in their reality may be jp sized and look. It’s awesome and thanks for saying that so that people who care so much that won’t SHUT UP!
Which canon do I prefer? A multi-dimensional omni-timeline-hybrid encorporating all versions, accomodating incongruent elements both across and within media versions. It's complicated but awesome
I liked your detailing in the intro.. The T.rex from JP1 or Rexy has same scars as it's movie counterpart. Great Job man, Big fan of your Work. P.S: i also prefer the Bull Tyrannosaurus from The Lost World over all other Tyrannosaurus because it literally blows some shit when it reaches San Diego.
Technically speaking, not all of the original Jurassic Park novel can be considered canon to the book universe. Since Ian Malcolm definitively died in the first novel, Crichton had to retcon his survival using some wordplay in The Lost World. Thus, the paragraph about Malcolm's death in JP is not canon. Anyway, great video as always.
Probably already been mentioned but on your point about the T-Rex's movement-based vision: It's not just a departure from real-world paleontology but also book canon where it's just an incorrect theory based on the usage of frog DNA. This is highlighted in the Lost World scene where our protagonists spot the stand-off between the T-Rexes and Dodgson's team over the surveillance footage: One of the kids asks why the people are standing still to which Malcolm responds that they're misinformed about how T-Rex vision works.
What is canon? Anything that gives fans goosebumps seeing or experiencing favorite characters & dinosaurs. What is not canon? Any large carnivor stealing Rexies thunder unless veteran dinos team up against it.
I wanna note franchises can have more then one canon. DBZ/star wars,DC/Marvel and pokemon have multible canons. There's the book and the film canons for JP. I think BOTH ARE GOOD.
GT IS CANON TO Z, SUPER IS CANON TO KAI GET OVER IT well Star Wars before Disney ruined it had games and novels that where all canon to the movie’s and where not separate
Why though? Why make shit ultra complicated by adding multiple universes. That's what stops people from buying comics and stuff likethat. Shits too complicated. I really like the way star wars deals with non-canon by calling it "legends" so it doesn't 100% say that it didnt happen. I think that's a great way of doing things. Its too bad, like you said, that star wars is in such bad hands right now.
Awesome video, Klayton! So if Telltale's JP the Game is only partially canon, do you think that includes the marine facility and the tylosaurus? I always thought the whole thing was kind of crazy but I'd like to know what you think.
