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Good video, as always. Just a clarification: - You say that Industrial Ethernet is the way how Operation Stations and Servers (because you may also have redundant servers) communicate. This is correct; however, you’re using the PROFINET logo on that level which is wrong since not all the Industrial Ethernet communications are PROFINET. You have all the entire schema based on Siemens hardware and software so we can have WinCC as example. Clients are connected by standard TCP/IP communications over Industrial Ethernet. In fact, it’s also common link the PLCs with the server using S7 Protocol over Industrial Ethernet instead of PROFINET. PROFINET is more widely used on PLC I/O or PLC Intelligent Device/Sensor or even PLC PLC communications since this protocol has huge advantages at this specific automation level.
Miguel, thank you for your comment. What you have described is very common, where comms at the PLC and I/O level are Profinet or Profibus and comms between WinCC and servers is S7 Protocol over Industrial Ethernet. This is almost exclusively true for S7-300 and S7-400 PLCs and components, but later S7-1200 and S7-1500 systems typically use Profinet for communications to/from the PLC/servers/WinCC stations. Industrial Ethernet (IE) refers to the use of standard Ethernet protocols with rugged connectors and extended temperature switches in an industrial environment, for automation or process control. Profinet, S7, Ethernet/IP and other protocols all run over Industrial Ethernet. There are many different ways to configure DCS systems, and we, as automation engineers, should be aware of the many different ways that this can be done. DCS system suppliers typically have requirements that limit the hardware and software choices that can be made for their systems, but open HMI applications like WinCC allow a choice of protocols that is quite extensive.
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Nice information... Requested you to please upload video on different protocol used for communicating third party system in automation... E.g DCS to PLC
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Thank you for your question. It's a combination of both. PLCs control the factory production area, while DCSs manage everything. Distributed control systems (DCSs) are software packages running on industrial PCs. They communicate with control hardware and provide a centralized human-machine interface (HMI) for the controlled equipment. Programmable logic controllers (PLCs) form the core of DCSs and other computer control systems. Happy learning from RealPars!
Hello am an operator of a casting control room anode furnace,at the smelter plant in Zambia at mopani copper mines,I would like to learn DCs operations.
Hi Sir, Nice video. 1. Kindly make video on differences between PLC and DCS 2. Different communication protocols and their differences and pros and cons
It means PLC is a smaller controller: 1 simple PLC( example: 1 kit of s7-1500). And DCS are larger controller: many PLCs( example 1 factory with many kits of S7-400) ?
Yes and no. A controller in a DCS system is designed to perform a specific set of tasks that are centered around configurable tasks, IO channels, and block-oriented logic. PLCs are designed to perform a specific set of tasks centered around logic operations and IO communications. You are correct that even small DCS controllers have more power than many small PLC CPUs, like the Siemens S7-1200. However, the S7-400 is the "brain" of a very powerful DCS system known as PCS7. Over the past 10 years, PLCs and DCS controllers have become similar in size (both physical and logical) and in function.
Awsome as usual Please make some more videos on this topic. if possible create a video series on it because there is no one to teach us as you and i want more knowledge on this topic so please add my request in your reqeust ques.
What is difference between the microprocessor used in PIC microcontroller or other microcontroller boards and the microprocessor inside the DCS controller which can handle @ 1000 I/o 's ?
A PLC and a DCS both need a processor capable of handling the various computational and I/O tasks required by these devices. The primary CPU microprocessor for these devices are typically based on commercial versions of multi-core processors, with customizations to accommodate the features of each CPU. In addition, firmware downloaded on EEPROM provides additional functionality for the CPU, such as OPC-UA or web support. The ability to handle large numbers of I/O rests in the memory provided by the CPU (additional chip sets included on the CPU board) and the internal data structure addressable by the CPU (firmware).
IEEE 488 is a parallel data bus, such as was used heavily in the 70's and 80's in the absence of fast serial interfaces. IEEE 488 was used for printers and other devices as well. Modern serial interfaces are fast and efficient, mainly due to advances in the hardware (physical) layer.
@@realpars You are right on how the IEE488 differs from Serial. My question was, how does IEE488 and Serial bus concept would differ from DCS data processing and collection methodology. The bulky IEEE488 was used to control multiple devices as well as collect data. I have even made use of it as machine shop CNC controller. Looking how we draw a DCS operational flow chart using electronics, optics, pneumatics and Hydraulics, I find it very similar to the tiny little microprocessor operational flow chart before I start drawing the actual circuitry. I also find DCS and PLC a set function (mathematically speaking) within SCADA.
Thanks for the feedback, Talha! This video is based on Mondi's experience (RealPars instructor) as an automation and control engineer. There is not that much of reference to be added here.
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A DCS is typically used to control plants with many continuous process units and a relatively high number of I/O distributed throughout the plant. A Fieldbus Control System (FCS) is used for the same purpose, but its architecture is somewhat different. A true FCS is a totally digital control platform and does not require I/O multiplexers or I/O cabinets, per se. The networked structure of an FCS reduces hardware requirements. However, an FCS is more complex and requires a higher level of expertise to design and maintain.
Yes, if you use the definition of DCS as "decentralized control system". I would not get hung up on definitions; they seem to change from time to time. The important concept is that operator stations are used to monitor and control the process, supported by servers and other computers to host tag databases, operator displays, configuration stations, and engineering stations. We call these integrated, distributed systems "DCS systems".
Jake, thank you for your support and comments. We will certainly take a look at adding videos that deal with using a multimeter as a troubleshooting device. We have been focusing on programming and design in our videos, but a troubeshooting video will certainly have a broad appeal. Thank you for the suggestion!
Good morning sir..When you make this CPU& CP COMMUNICATION WITH IO READING PLEASE Explain & show step by step as you did in your all videos... thank you
Hi, I'm following your videos and they are very useful to me. But if you apply a little bit of it, is not it better? For example about pid This will be more understandable in the software environment thank you Alireza Dehghani
I think there is a confusion here , what you describe here is more Scada than DCS , as long as there is a server that collect data this is more Scada, true DCS has peer to peer communication between its components. and doesn't rely on server to collect data I know there is no clear boundaries here and technology transforms but true DCS rely on peer to peer coms.
Thank you for your comment. As you mention, there is no longer a very clear boundary between DCS and SCADA architectures anymore. SCADA typically has a single server/computer that serves all of the functions of the control system including graphics, database, historian, etc. For a DCS, many of these same functions are typically executed in the controllers, but servers are many times required for the historian, batch execution, and advanced alarming.
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Great question! ET-200S is a small form factor, compact, low I/O count I/O system (2 to 16 I/O per card) that can be installed in on a DIN rail. ET-200M is a higher density I/O subsystem that is rack-oriented with I/O cards capable of 8 to 64 I/O points per card. ET-200M also supports specialty cards, like position control, CAM control, and axis control. ET-200S is similar to A-B Point I/O. ET-200M is similar to CompactLogix I/O.
A DCS is most like a PLC. It is comprised of controllers and I/O cards, and is highly configurable with built-in functions and faceplates. Software is used for both PLC and DCS systems to configure and program the systems, and in each case, software is used to configure operating displays.
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Hello I have a question sir what is the function of the server ? Does it convert the signal to something like OPC ua in order to communicate with control station and other machinery that are located far away ? Also the archive is it something like a Maria dab or sql database? Great video btw !
In a DCS system, the server can perform many functions, such as HMI Server (holds tag database, screen files, etc.), Batch Server (controls steps and recipes in a modular batch process control scheme), or other Application Server, such as communications (for example, OPC-UA as you mentioned). The Archive is commonly called a Historian, which is an integrated data collection and retrieval system, based on technology such as SQL.