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What is ECO: A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians? 

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ECO: A Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians is a newer United States Presbyterian Denomination. Let’s talk about what they believe.
Chapters:
00:00 History of ECO
01:45 Costs of leaving PC(USA)
02:06 Confessions
03:20 Core Theology & Sacraments
04:46 Confirmation & Covenant Partners
05:11 Scripture
05:44 Creation
05:57 Sin & Salvation
07:15 Confession of 1967
07:56 Doctrines of Grace
08:53 Charismatic Views
09:43 Eschatology
10:03 Marriage & Sexuality
10:33 Life Issues
10:43 Worship Style & Alcohol
10:57 Tithing
11:09 Church Government
11:36 Church Offices
12:06 Women in Ministry
14:51 Affiliations & Statistics

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17 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 73   
@jakerinehold9697
@jakerinehold9697 Год назад
WOW .... ECO emblem looks like a fully Organic Church. No pesticides or preservatives added. Eco Friendly, no GMOs, Gluten Free.
@cbrad-eo6nt
@cbrad-eo6nt Год назад
No Genetically Modified Orthodoxy here!
@GitzenShiggles
@GitzenShiggles Год назад
And best of all; CONSERVATIVE! 👍
@SantaFe19484
@SantaFe19484 Год назад
Happy Resurrection Sunday!
@DerickTheHeroV2
@DerickTheHeroV2 Год назад
I didn't even watch this video specifically, just wanted to comment on your most recent video in the hopes of increasing the chances of you seeing it. Your work is genuinely fantastic and I have a deep respect for you. I've been looking up everything I can for unbiased takes on different sects, and your channel is one of the best. Keep doing what you are doing and you will continue to have more and more success. Thank you for the hard work and research that goes into this video format style.
@Toneytc
@Toneytc Год назад
@@ReadyToHarvest good one
@zumbi2000
@zumbi2000 Год назад
I know Rod Pinder! He’s a wonderful brother in Christ, and has been very helpful in my discernment process. Even after I decided ECO wasn’t the right fit for me he’s been a good friend.
@jacksonadkins4693
@jacksonadkins4693 Год назад
Hey Joshua, I've really enjoyed your videos on the different denominations. I am currently a college student and was wondering if you would do a video on some of the larger college ministries such as BCM and the Navigators. Thank you for your great content!
@nicholasshaler7442
@nicholasshaler7442 Год назад
Weird for a denomination founded on returning to a more biblical and traditional Presbyterianism to reject the Biblical Pauline teaching on women preaching and perpetual Presbyterian practice of male-only pastors from John Knox to very recent.
@Spudeaux
@Spudeaux Год назад
I visited a church here a while ago that was Presbyterian, but didn't advertise which denomination they belonged to. They're in the PCUSA, but have been trying to leave for ECO since it started.
@sjduges67
@sjduges67 Год назад
There is a church in Southern CA that has that dual agreement between the Presbyterian and United Methodist Church. It used to be on the campus of USC and has since moved to another site off campus. It’s still an active church.
@bhilbert11
@bhilbert11 Год назад
I would love to see you do a video on the Free Presbyterian Churches of Ulster and America.
@nickvierling7052
@nickvierling7052 Год назад
I think a video on the Plymouth Brethren would be great. Very little information exists on them and I would like to know more.
@anthonygamblin9983
@anthonygamblin9983 10 месяцев назад
First Presbyterian in Branson is an ECO church. The pastor, and church, hold a continuationist view of the gifts of the Holy Spirit
@RepublicofE
@RepublicofE Год назад
"We affirm women in ministry because of the Bible, not cultural trends." I mean, some would consider the Enlightenment to be a cultural trend but okay.
@pierrelabounty9917
@pierrelabounty9917 Год назад
The enlightenment was far from being a cultural trend. Considering the new testament and Paul's salutations; women are able to minister greatly in the living Body of Yeshua; where men are not in the task enough around the world. There is no female or male in Christ at that point. So it ceases to be a sexual issue. I know nothing much about the denominational variants on this. Others may. God did not make women as a second thought. They are among others thongs the best nurturers in many ways of children and young men; when they are true to their providential task. And self evident. Men are among other things to help provide fir children and women . And all are to serve best by putting Christ first in all things. The churches assimilation of cultural values is another problem. We have to deal with that individually in our lives as well. The first two commandments are fulfilled by faith in Christ alone. No idols in place of or by the side of. Praise God in all things. All this seems again self evident from the scrotures in total and our spiritual expereince and necessities. Let Christ be in control.
@Dunning-Kruger-effect
@Dunning-Kruger-effect Год назад
Doing exactly what cultural trends ask. Saying you aren’t following cultural trends. Claim biblical basis. No one claimed this was biblical for thousands of years until it became a cultural trend. Hmmm…..
@albertito77
@albertito77 Год назад
@@Dunning-Kruger-effect 💯💯💯
@albertito77
@albertito77 Год назад
The Enlightenment was absolutely a cultural trend
@kevionrogers2605
@kevionrogers2605 Год назад
My wife is a church musician and two of the churches left pcusa to eco in Alabama.
@thetraditionalist
@thetraditionalist Год назад
Interesting, I remember you mentioning them but didn't know much about their beliefs
@lordcharlesthomas
@lordcharlesthomas Год назад
I was wondering if you would be interested in doing a video on the 'Catch the Fire' churches, a group of charismatics who operate in the US and Canada, I know a handful of people who are part of said churches and would be interested in getting a well presented view of what they believe, a blessed Easter to you Joshua
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 Год назад
Thank you,Joshua🌹🌹🌹🌹
@GitzenShiggles
@GitzenShiggles Год назад
This one holds to the same beliefs as I do, or at least the closest thereof. I think I've found my forever church!
@jeremiahcollins9630
@jeremiahcollins9630 8 месяцев назад
You are most welcome! Hopefully you can find a good congregation near year.
@anyanyanyanyanyany3551
@anyanyanyanyanyany3551 Год назад
If I remember correctly, COG TN are also egalitarian in that they allow women to preach as pastors, but would not allow them to hold higher office. Other than the issue of women preachers, the COG TN is fairly conservative on most matters, including sexuality and marriage. Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I was raised in a COG TN church in Indonesia (known as Indonesian Bethel Church).
@georgebernard5783
@georgebernard5783 3 месяца назад
3:07 The Church of the Straits has since left the UMC. It now holds dual affiliation with ECO and the Global Methodist Church
@toughbiblepassages9082
@toughbiblepassages9082 Год назад
They sound SO similar to EPC and the only difference between them, is so small, yet they still want to be separate denominations.. like.. leave it to Presbyterians to split over the smallest matter.
@gabesmith9171
@gabesmith9171 Год назад
The PCUSA has been a lost cause for a long time. I wish there was just the PCA and OPC as conservative alternatives- no use diluting Presbyterianism
@slamdancer1720
@slamdancer1720 Год назад
some ARP are pretty conservative too.
@billyhw5492
@billyhw5492 Год назад
Looks like a circuit diagram.
@michigantraveler
@michigantraveler Год назад
My Presbyterian Church looks like its going towards ECO and away from Presbyterian USA 😂
@lapisliozuli4861
@lapisliozuli4861 Год назад
This has the same vibes as Orange Catholic Tabernacle Temple
@highviewbarbell
@highviewbarbell Год назад
"Saint John Coltrane African Orthodox Church" (yes, that's real and no it's not in communion with EO, of course)
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Год назад
Orange Catholic? Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man...
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 Год назад
Honesdale!
@jeremybullen655
@jeremybullen655 5 месяцев назад
I find it regrettable that the denomination is willing to alienate complementarians, and I dont think their argument even follows. Its possible for a complementarian to deny the appropriateness of female ministers without denying that they legitimately hold the office. Its really quite bizarre that they put their foot down firmly here.
@Habit7
@Habit7 Год назад
The Apostle Paul won't be able to meet the standards of this denomination.
@brendenporterfield327
@brendenporterfield327 Год назад
"No guys, we don't ordain women because we're *politically* modernists, we do it because we're *theologically* modernists,"
@Austin8thGenTexan
@Austin8thGenTexan Год назад
The culture wars - and "who can break away from each other" contest wears me out. I wonder how this will play out when everyone now over age 50 are dead and long gone... 🤔
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Год назад
Very corporate logo. 🌱
@GermanShepherd1983
@GermanShepherd1983 Год назад
Why not just switch the church to the Orthodox Presbyterian Church if they want to go more conservative? We have way too many denominations the way it is and people keep starting more new ones.
@slamdancer1720
@slamdancer1720 Год назад
Because they are NOT orthodox, nor are they particularly conservative, merely more so than PCUSA. The OPC would require many changes.
@hjk7833
@hjk7833 Год назад
The OPC is significantly different from ECO, such that ECO churches would not want to join OPC and OPC would not want to have them. The OPC hews much, much more closely to the Westminster Confession of Faith, and it is certainly not egalitarian. The more obvious fit to me would be the EPC. I have a pastor friend who led his church to leave the PC(USA) for the EPC right at the time when ECO was formed. I asked him why he thought ECO came into existence, when the churches who formed ECO could have just left for the EPC. He said that one factor (among many) had to do with the fact that some PCUSA Presbyteries would not let a church leave the denomination to go to a denomonation that was not explicitly egalitarian. As the video mentions, the EPC allows for the ordination of women, but does not have a unified stance on the issue, allowing churchse (and presbyteries, iirc) to disagree and refuse to hire female pastors. In taking an explicit and unwaivering egalitarian stance, ECO provided a place where some PCUSA churches could land without having the presbytery block them or sieze their property.
@GermanShepherd1983
@GermanShepherd1983 Год назад
@@slamdancer1720 So then the ECO is just PCA Light?
@slamdancer1720
@slamdancer1720 Год назад
@@GermanShepherd1983 no...more like PCUSA heavy. Much closer to PCUSA than OPC or PCA. for example, ALL officers in the OPC MUST hold to the Westminster standards, and is complementarian.
@justsomeguywithmustachio5369
Day 1 of asking for, explanation about Kingdom Of Jesus Christ by Apollo quiboloy
@hjk7833
@hjk7833 Год назад
You say that, "The great majority of churches teach an amillenial view." That surprises me. I am a member of an ECO church and was an elder at that church, and I would not have guessed that. What is your basis for making this claim?
@thelasthandbook6704
@thelasthandbook6704 Год назад
I just got a really "interesting" ad. 😐 Something, something a woman sinffing a man's armpit was in there somewhere.
@alexandrub8786
@alexandrub8786 Год назад
Something something ads are based on your search history and interests.
@thelasthandbook6704
@thelasthandbook6704 Год назад
@@alexandrub8786 Okay, that's it. VPN only from now on. 😜
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
@@alexandrub8786 I know the ads you see have little to no connection to the video you're watching, but I see a lot of very weird ads having nothing to do with anything I've ever searched for. I wish I had an explanation for that.
@TheAngelin2000
@TheAngelin2000 Год назад
how many Christian churches are there?
@lucybarnes8969
@lucybarnes8969 Год назад
Yes
@MAMoreno
@MAMoreno Год назад
From the Nicene Creed: *We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.* *We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.* *We look for the resurrection of the dead,* *and the life of the world to come. Amen.* (Some denominations would like to exclude others from the one church over non-credal matters, but this is what we confess nonetheless.)
@abrahamissac5938
@abrahamissac5938 Год назад
The church is a like a tree. & some claim to be the original & some from the original claim the original lost its way therefore create a split in the church. The most powerful/rich ones are Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Pentecostal & the rest of the church’s are mostly non-denominational or independent. I myself lean on to the poor churches because I find them not hypocritical on textual teachings ish.
@Dunning-Kruger-effect
@Dunning-Kruger-effect Год назад
One
@bigscarysteve
@bigscarysteve Год назад
As for the number of Christian denominations, it's often claimed that there are tens of thousands. Joshua once did a video on this. Unfortunately, I forget its title. Anyhow, he showed that the number of denominations claimed to exist is highly exaggerated. One reason is that the same denomination gets counted more than once depending on how many countries it exists in, and other such strange vagaries which greatly expand the numbers claimed.
@paulmiller7775
@paulmiller7775 Год назад
Wow I was with them until you revealed they are egalitarian. :(
@albertito77
@albertito77 Год назад
Same 😢
@geekygecko1849
@geekygecko1849 Год назад
Oh no! Not equality!
@daveb9342
@daveb9342 Год назад
They can cram their dictatorial crap on requiring obedience to the forced acceptance of women eldership and pastor ship.
@aaronwalterryse4281
@aaronwalterryse4281 Год назад
Galations 3:28
@abeycee7427
@abeycee7427 Год назад
So Christian to say people can "cram" their "crap" . Disappointing
@daveb9342
@daveb9342 Год назад
@@aaronwalterryse4281 The same apostle refers to prohibition of women speaking in the assembly as well as usurping the authority of men in leadership in the home and in matters of tree church.
@daveb9342
@daveb9342 Год назад
@@abeycee7427 Yes it is Christian to deal bluntly with the babbling of fools. Paul said, " I refuse to suffer fools gladly."
@abeycee7427
@abeycee7427 Год назад
@@daveb9342 No wonder people are walking away from Christianity and religion altogether.
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