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What is going on with Ken Tamplin? - With Lexi The Red. 

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After my last video about Ken Tamplin and the whole Ken Tamplin situation here on RU-vid, I got asked a lot of questions regarding the validity of Kens coaching methods.
I am not a vocal coach or even a singer.
So I invited my good friend ‪@Lexi-The-Red-UK‬ to join me for a chat about Ken Tamplin to see if she could clear a few things up for us all.
I was actually quite shocked at some of the things she noticed about Ken that I had missed.
This is probably one of my longer videos but I didn't want to edit it down too much.
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@Wairoakid
@Wairoakid 11 дней назад
Fil never said that Ken could not sing. That comment is part of the gaslighting from Ken and his friends. Fil showed that Ken was substituting earlier recorded singing in for live performance and pretending it was live in THAT performance. It may be been live in the original performance.
@Madmetalmaniac42069
@Madmetalmaniac42069 9 дней назад
Fil literally said he can tell that Ken is pretty talented. IMO, its pretty sad that Ken feels the need to lie. He clearly still has talent; he should accept that his voice has changed and roll with it. You can't belt like that forever. But then again, he seems to be pretty self-obsessed apparently. I had seen some of his videos in the past, and I was impressed with his voice. Then I watched a few more and noticed something "off". I was only like 17 or 18 at the time, so I didn't realize what I was noticing yet. I wound up forgetting about Ken for well over a decade, went off and started in my own bands and writing my own music as best I can. After being in the business of doing everything the DIY way, then taking a few audio production and music production classes in person - it became clear that Ken was not being fully honest when I discovered him again. His videos are generally done in a way to make the layman think that he's doing all of it live when that is simply not the case, and its very clear to anyone who does any kind of music/video production. Funny enough, right when I remembered his videos existed, this lip sync thing was what was going on with him once I looked him up further to see more. If Fil hadn't made a video, someone else eventually would have.
@brianpark492
@brianpark492 7 дней назад
Ken can sing and play guitar...But this is all about a Narcissistic person trying to come across as perfect....Nuff said.
@brianpark492
@brianpark492 7 дней назад
Fil pointed out the obvious.
@KevinWayne
@KevinWayne 6 дней назад
Have you not seen all the comments all over the places saying he sucks, can't play guitar, etc etc? Sorry, Ken did not come up with any of that.
@brianpark492
@brianpark492 6 дней назад
@KevinWayne There are videos of him playing guitar live in a room.His acoustic is buzzing like crazy but he can play.Iam 57 and played in bands and it's him playing.I didn't say he was great at either but he does have some talent.Just not as much as he thinks.
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 11 дней назад
Ken has gotten more attention in the last 2 weeks than he has in the last 20 years! He's loving it! Narcissists love attention because it's all about them! But I'm happy to see many people coming to the podium to speak their mind on the various issues surrounding KT and what has emerged lately.
@dustinbonz2709
@dustinbonz2709 11 дней назад
Hopefully when it dies down though enough people will recognize him for the fraud that he is and he won't be getting any attention anymore
@Wizardofgosz
@Wizardofgosz 11 дней назад
Truth Surge!! The new Randy Rhoads!!! Love your vids.
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 11 дней назад
He's infamous now.
@Wizardofgosz
@Wizardofgosz 11 дней назад
@@TruthSurge I actually don't think he's loving it. Narcissists hate being found out and at the level and scale that he's being found out (that he's a phony) he's staying up nights watching all the videos and raging.
@JdeBP
@JdeBP 11 дней назад
@@Wizardofgosz Given that I've just checked whether a @devon-graves-studio-D comment (shown being made in ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3Y9I0F1psAU.html) was still there 1 day later, to find Tamplin still channel-owner-liking 16-hour-old comments on a 2-year-old video _and_ finding Devon Graves's comment gone; I think that Ken Tamplin is staying up nights desperately deleting comments from xyr videos.
@don7294
@don7294 11 дней назад
Thank you so much for sharing and I love Lexi. I am a classically trained vocalist. I started when I was almost seven years old in 1965(old school for sure) and continued with a choir for a decade and then branched out into rock in the 70's. I still did choral work for 25 years but, I really got into rock. I have also worked with a number of vocal coaches. I didn't have any idea who Ken was until a couple of weeks ago and I have watched a number of his videos. I also started playing guitar when I was twelve yers old, switching from the Viola, and I still play. Ken can sing but, like many vocalists in the rock arena I don't think his technique is correct/healthy and I really cringe when I watch him strain so much while singing. The real problem I have with Ken is in lying to the public about his abilities and the results his students will have if they hire him. He obviously mimes while singing and playing the guitar, and that is the real problem. Honesty and integrity are everything to me and I consider him to be a fraud. Unfortunately, the music industry seems to have allowed this kind of thing to go on for a very long time. I understand the Eagles mime in concert now and for the thousands of dollars they charge for a front-row ticket, I think that is also fraud. Ken reminds me of Lance Armstrong and until he decides to be honest with the world he will be crucified on line. I haven't even heard Lexi sing and I would wholly recommend her to anyone needing a vocal coach instead of Ken. Humility is one of the most important aspects for a musician and often the very best of the best are extremely humble. Ken claims to be the best vocalist and guitarist in the world, while denigrating many of the best vocalists in history. That is all you need to know so that you and your money stay very far away from him.
@chrisgraver2112
@chrisgraver2112 11 дней назад
Hey, was a great take on the whole Ken thing. I have been a fan of Ken's since the 80s and to hear all the stuff coming out, first from Fil, then everyone else, it should never have been like this if Ken had come clean.
@guitarstuffstudio
@guitarstuffstudio 11 дней назад
If Ken had just kept his head down it would have blown over, I think he probably has the wrong people around him or something
@chrisgraver2112
@chrisgraver2112 11 дней назад
@@guitarstuffstudio Yes he does and Ken makes fake accounts from what i hear, to further himself away from the truth. Sad really as he used to be really good. Christians shouldnt behave like that
@NathanVeenstra
@NathanVeenstra 11 дней назад
Streisand effect anyone? 😉
@james-he7xv
@james-he7xv 11 дней назад
@@guitarstuffstudio he's a narcissist and megalomaniac , I really doubt he has anyone advising him right or wrongly. plus his voice is so incredibly generic. hopefully he will fade away.
@guitarstuffstudio
@guitarstuffstudio 11 дней назад
Thanks for watching. Please do not harass anyone involved in this video. It's not cool.
@FretfulBadass
@FretfulBadass 11 дней назад
Ähm....😅
@dylanbartlett3555
@dylanbartlett3555 11 дней назад
Where are you from, dude?
@SWDFGX
@SWDFGX 11 дней назад
So there is false advertising on You Tube by contributors as well as advertisers. Who'd have thunk it!
@zachary_attackery
@zachary_attackery 11 дней назад
too late!
@anntrower5155
@anntrower5155 6 дней назад
It's also not cool to use your channel to cut other people down. Are you here for music or drama? Shame on every one of you doing this. Clean up your own back yards and focus on what you do. I will never subscribe to people like you who want to gossip and bring harm to others.
@Anniearchy
@Anniearchy 11 дней назад
Ken's tongue action has ALWAYS bothered me!!! He doesn't sing. He shouts.
@samsschool3639
@samsschool3639 10 дней назад
YEEEAH YEEAAEAEAEEAAAH YEEAAAAH YEEeeeeeaaaaah
@fretwireonfire
@fretwireonfire 8 дней назад
How do you think the band got the name? lol
@dubmaster01
@dubmaster01 7 дней назад
Or worse... that parrot tongue cringe.
@davek6949
@davek6949 7 дней назад
@@Anniearchy Yeah, I don’t get the whole tongue thing.
@MrCroky123
@MrCroky123 4 дня назад
He's just showing of his cunnilingus abilities to the ladies. Other than that, it adds nothing to your singing.
@HumbleTrader001
@HumbleTrader001 11 дней назад
I tend to agree that Ken really isn't a baritone, although he does have access to lower notes. His speaking voice sits in a higher range than most baritones as well. It's ironic that Ken's biggest selling point was the access to incredible high notes that you can maintain throughout your career if you take care of your voice. But, we then found out that in the Immortal Fest concert he lip synced the higher parts, and mainly only sang the lower parts live. Also, Marc Ajax even found a live Shout performance from 1989 where the vocals were identical to the studio version, so it would seem lip syncing is not just something he started doing live as he got older.
@ItsNotaTuhmah
@ItsNotaTuhmah 11 дней назад
He's been miming since 1989. Let that one sync in.
@dylanbartlett3555
@dylanbartlett3555 11 дней назад
I think he’s clearly a boringtone, no doubt about it.
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 11 дней назад
Yeah but Jesus forgave him every single time.
@dubmaster01
@dubmaster01 7 дней назад
@@Chez8922-kf6cy praise the lard
@fromchomleystreet
@fromchomleystreet 6 дней назад
His whole gig is conning singers into thinking that if they give a load of money, they’ll learn the secret of being able to hit notes that are currently outside their range. That’s why he’s so invested in showing off his ability to hit really high notes (including the ones he can’t actually hit anymore, hence the lip-syncing to thirty-year-old backing tracks). When you think about it, therefore, it makes much better business sense to present himself as a natural baritone who taught himself to sing in the tenor range, rather than as a natural tenor.
@PatrickSmeaton
@PatrickSmeaton 10 дней назад
I first watched some of his videos a few years ago. It didn't take long for me to see that the guy is just a sleezy salesman with a good voice. I really enjoyed listening to Lexi discuss this topic. Fascinating stuff.
@ArtyomAnna
@ArtyomAnna 10 дней назад
he may have/had the range.. but his vocal tone is just crap..
@SVT40AK47
@SVT40AK47 11 дней назад
Lexi did a great job explaining what is going on with K. Great video!
@nethbt
@nethbt 11 дней назад
Proof is in the miming
@greghughes8147
@greghughes8147 11 дней назад
How's his walk against the wind? The invisible box?
@Linda90503
@Linda90503 10 дней назад
@@nethbt Good one!!
@LillyMarz777
@LillyMarz777 2 дня назад
😅
@azaze-u7r
@azaze-u7r 11 дней назад
Ken got caught misleading, instead of being honest about it he has chose to lie and try to discredit people
@Kahuna54
@Kahuna54 9 дней назад
Fil is a very knowledgeable person in regards to analysis of songs and music. He has never put anyone down, all he does is provide information and lets you make up your mind. Ken Tamplin has been using alias’s and sending negative comments about Fil on Wings of Pegasus website. Ken has been caught red handed lip syncing and faking playing the guitar! Then he denies it!
@rickfortine7454
@rickfortine7454 7 дней назад
That is such bullshit !!!
@crunchyfrog63
@crunchyfrog63 11 дней назад
I only just discovered Fil's channel a few months ago. A video showed up in my feed about why there can never be another Judy Garland, and it looked intriguing. Then I started learning all about Autotune and pitch correction, which I hadn't even known was a thing, because I don't follow contemporary music. I'm so glad that I found him when I did, though, because I just love a good drama, and I wouldn't have missed this Ken Tamplin one for the world, even though I'd never heard of him before that 1st video. Just an extra bonus on top of all the great and informative videos I've gotten to watch.
@Laura-rp2ki
@Laura-rp2ki 10 дней назад
@@crunchyfrog63 yep. I found Fil a few months ago as well. It is so eye opening and also super depressing but I love watching his videos and learning and seeing his passion. Class act.
@MikePhillips-pl6ov
@MikePhillips-pl6ov 9 дней назад
@@crunchyfrog63 I like also that Fil reviews great singers and guitarists, puts the analysis software on them, especially the singers, and praises how great their original (unadjusted) voices are.
@crunchyfrog63
@crunchyfrog63 9 дней назад
@@MikePhillips-pl6ov Yes. I've learned a lot about acts that I've never paid much attention to, or didn't evem know about. I'm not so interested in the contemporary stuff, but he covers acts going all the way back to the 1920s, and all different genres.
@vernonharden
@vernonharden 7 дней назад
@@crunchyfrog63, Fil hit my radar about a year or more ago. For me it was his take on Johnny Cash's cover of "Hurt", that started me off. Which being a fan of Cash and Country music it caught my interest. I followed Fil off and one, but a few months back decided to subscribe. Getting me to subscribe to any channel is a difficult to do thing.
@thomasmoroney1079
@thomasmoroney1079 10 дней назад
His tongue is like a sausage??? 😂 I spit out my morning coffee!!!
@JojoFryrocks
@JojoFryrocks 11 дней назад
Really great analysis from Lexi, makes a lot of sense. SUPER excited for my lesson with her in just over a week, she’s going to help me get my singing sorted and kindly agreed to let me video it for my channel so that’s coming soon! ❤
@Q1776Q
@Q1776Q 11 дней назад
Tamplin is the best singer in the world ....just ask him ...he'll tell you
@karenglenn6707
@karenglenn6707 11 дней назад
Oh yes! Better than Freddy according to him 🤣. And also apparently was the best guitarist in the world. There are thousands of great guitarists ahead of Tamplin. And also according to him, has been asked to join Queen after Freddy died, INXS after Michael died, Journey and Motley Crue 🤣🤣 and many more but he turned them all down so that he could be at home and be a good father. The problem is that he has told his son all of this rubbish and his son truly believes in his father, which is just a disgusting thing to do as a parent. Just sickening!!
@greghughes8147
@greghughes8147 11 дней назад
Ken has his own wing in the Hall of Fame, although it is located in his sub basement
@nogigging431
@nogigging431 11 дней назад
So Ken is teaching from out 'singing for Dummies', and I'm not even surprised any more. I feel sorry for all the people who has spent a lot of money and time in his bogus. Whether it's his 'course' or tickets for 'live'-performances. Lixi's analyses are spot on by the way!
@JdeBP
@JdeBP 11 дней назад
To be strictly fair: What Tamblin says in that video at the 2:38 mark is _not_ word-for-word from the book, and could equally well be paraphrasing Wikipedia or any one of a number of other such WWW sources.
@nogigging431
@nogigging431 11 дней назад
@@JdeBP yep, that"s what you learn at high school; don't ever copy word-by-word, because it shows. (But the source is the same though
@simonwj6404
@simonwj6404 10 дней назад
At 9:00, Lexi makes an excellent point. My singing coach from the very beginning said we'd find my voice, whtever that may be.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
We're all born with different voices but training can really help you find a sound you like. Keep singing and have fun is the most important thing though 🤘
@JesseFinkBooks
@JesseFinkBooks 11 дней назад
Interview Juno Roxas.
@nethbt
@nethbt 11 дней назад
He's music's version of the Liver King 😂😂😂😂
@detroitpolak9904
@detroitpolak9904 11 дней назад
Ken Tamperin’ (with his vocals)
@jamesrudd8705
@jamesrudd8705 7 дней назад
Ken Scamplin!
@detroitpolak9904
@detroitpolak9904 7 дней назад
@@jamesrudd8705 I’ve noticed the majority of Ken’s supporters mention his Christianity, so I think they’re circling the wagons around a completely irrelevant reason. Have you noticed that as well?
@truckerkevthepaidtourist
@truckerkevthepaidtourist 5 дней назад
​@@detroitpolak9904yeah just like Jim and Tammy Baker's followers back in the day remember them??
@detroitpolak9904
@detroitpolak9904 5 дней назад
@@truckerkevthepaidtourist wasn’t it Jan Hooks that played Tammy on SNL where the mascara kept pouring off her face? I gotta look that up now lol. Yeah these televangelist are the kinda guys where after you shake their hand, you gotta count and make sure you still got five fingers. And you hit the nail on the head, people keep going back, just like Ken’s customers.
@jamesrudd8705
@jamesrudd8705 4 дня назад
@@detroitpolak9904 , yep!
@carinaejag
@carinaejag 11 дней назад
I would not say that Ken T have any great tone to his voice. Rather the opposite.
@paul-Ess
@paul-Ess 10 дней назад
You'd be correct!
@ricoeugene-uu1bs
@ricoeugene-uu1bs 10 дней назад
Thank You Andy , And , Thank YOU , Lexie The Red !! ..this was enlightening and informative !!
@Steely_Fran
@Steely_Fran 11 дней назад
Best case scenario: You pay Ken $799, and he'll show you how to sound like you stepped off The Sunset Strip in 1984,
@TheBrettWilson
@TheBrettWilson 10 дней назад
Yes, by miming to a 35 year old recording 😂
@Steely_Fran
@Steely_Fran 7 дней назад
@@TheBrettWilsonHaha. My favorite part about this whole ordeal is how the lead singer of a band named SHOUT got caught lip syncing.
@jasonparker9633
@jasonparker9633 11 дней назад
thanks for the video !!!! Very good on the education of singing!!! I watched a bunch of tamplins video and he fooled me. When wings of pegasus came out with tamplins video it really all made sense as well as your video!! thanks agian for the video!!
@maxtazer2000
@maxtazer2000 10 дней назад
Yea, I'm well over this Ken saga, but it had to come out. Good work! I'll be checking Lexi out. She is well grounded in her knowledge.
@TheShonuff888
@TheShonuff888 11 дней назад
Ken Tamplin where the proof is in the syncing
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 10 часов назад
THIS: "He seems to me to be selling himself on his own voice". Fabulous analysis, I love it.
@SVT40AK47
@SVT40AK47 11 дней назад
The video where he critiques Freddie Mercury is just insane and shows he is completely self involved.
@truckerkevthepaidtourist
@truckerkevthepaidtourist 5 дней назад
Yeah that was pretty crazy and then he crapped all over Al Green of all people
@matt_nyc_audioengineer
@matt_nyc_audioengineer 11 дней назад
Hello great chat! Now, before I say this, I just want to be sure I'm clear... I ABSOLUTELY think Ken is lip-syncing during those spots in his performance. I ABSOLUTELY think Ken is NOT performing live in his videos. I ABSOLUTELY think Ken is lying, gaslighting, and trying to be deceptive. All that being said, I'm a professional audio engineer. I work on recorded and live music. It's my full time job, it's how I earn a living. So, I am qualified to speak on this. Lexi made a point that hearing the compression on Ken's vocals is a way to absolutely know it was pre-recorded. However, this is not true. We often use compression live. Most mixers have built-in compressors. Even if it's just a one-knob compressor. Most have several different software emulations you can choose from (LA-2A, 1176, DBX 160, etc...). Especially the kind of mixer that would have been used for the show in question. They would certainly be using a popular "touring" setup or at least a medium to large club setup. Almost any mixer in that situation would have built-in compression. Even more so tho many of us now are actually using plugins live! I was just doing it tonight lol. Many more professional rigs have Waves SuperRack in the chain. Some use SoundGrid and some use SuperRack Performer. I know I'm mixing a musical right now and I have tons of compression on the actors in some spots. Especially when they are belting or really singing loudly. So, the compression is not a giveaway. It's totally reasonable that the engineer could compress his vocals like that live. Now, with that kind of mic and to get that kind of sound while doing it is VERY unlikely lol. The vocals in those spots were cleary EQd different, had different time based fx (reverb and delay) than the "lower" vocals, and were compressed MUCH more than the "lower" vocals. The plosives, sibilance, breaths, etc... would all get extremely amplified with a headset like that with loads of compression being used on the vocals in question. Also, at that kind of volume, you may even get feedback issues with heavy amounts of gain reduction in a live setting with a crappy headset mic like that. There are reasons you don't see many people using those kinds of headset mics for singing. They generally sound terrible lol. So again, just to be clear! I AM NOT defending Ken here but I do feel it's important to be as honest as possible when dealing with this situation. We can't be here saying Ken should just tell the truth then not do the same when talking about him. I'm positive it wasn't on purpose and I understand why she would think that. You need to be a reasonably experienced live sound engineer to know that heavy compression is common on vocals (and some of the instruments too) in a live setting sometimes. Especially with rock and metal.
@gspianoguitar4369
@gspianoguitar4369 10 дней назад
That's all very well and having engineered myself respect but ultimately the guy has said he's singing live and he's not. End of. He's playing notes on a guitar that are NOT on the guitar. That comes under my definition of fraud. To then go all out Mi5 to deny gaslight and tell the world to 'move on' is complete bollocks. The guy is a fraud and he's taking people's money for it. He's been called out and is justifiably getting world wide slammed for it. Sounds about right to me
@matt_nyc_audioengineer
@matt_nyc_audioengineer 10 дней назад
@@gspianoguitar4369 Agree 100%! I clearly said he's being deciectful, in several ways. I was just saying using the fact that there is compression on the vocals isn't really accurate. We use compression live all the time.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
In my experience, compression live causes feedback issues so a limiter is often useful for live. What I meant is, that you can hear the compression lifting the quieter vocal aspects that close mic delivers, in a live environment that same sound would generate feedback issues. I used engineer live gigs too...and studio sessions. I never used the same settings in studio that i used live, no matter what rack fx i was working with 🤷
@matt_nyc_audioengineer
@matt_nyc_audioengineer 10 дней назад
@@Lexi-The-Red-UK Hi! Thanks for the comment. Ya, as I said in my comment, compression live can certainly cause feedback if the tech hasn't rung out the room or had other feedback control measures in place (hardware feedback suppression, Waves X Feedback, Waves Feedback Hunter, etc...) so I totally agree with you on that. I mean a a limiter is a compressor, just with a ratio over 20:1 but I get what you mean I think. Using a limiter to just catch the peaks. It's all subjective and what works for one may not work for another! I'm using the same signal chain I would in the studio with the actors in the show I'm working on right now (It's a musical, Nunsense). Well, not exactly because I don't use Waves plugins for my mixing/mastering work, I only use them live but what I mean is I'm using a DeEsser first (Waves Sibilance), then CLA-2A, then Q10. At some points, I'm pegging the needle (20dB of gain reduction or more) when they are really belting during the show with no feedback at all and plenty of headroom to spare, but I have a hardware feedback unit I use that is fantastic so feedback is rarely an issue for me but like I said, I totally agree compression can be an issue live. Absolutely no question about it! If the room is EQd properly tho you can get away with quite a bit of heavy-handed processing. Cool to know you've worked in both settings too! It's a great job, I'm blessed to do what I do every day! Ahhhh, ok! Now I get it. And again, don't take me the wrong way. I'm not trying to defend Ken here. He's a POS and a liar lol. I just think it's only right if we are going to be critical to make sure we're only coming with facts. I totally get what you mean now. I also hear tons of automation in the parts he is using from the recording as well. Not only with the fx but there are clearly volume rides on the vocals as well. Could this be done live, yes, with the right mixer and computer OR even by hand but this was WAY too smooth to be either of those. I just wish he would be honest! This would go away so much quicker and he could just move on with his life. It's like he doesn't realize the more he lies the more he makes it worse and worse for himself. There are people in this world with much greater knowledge than him in these kinds of things but he doesn't think that which is where I think the problem starts haha!! When I watch Ken I almost get the feeling he thinks we're all stupid lol. Anyway, I rambled long enough. Thanks for your comment Lexi and thanks for the great video. I hope you didn't think I was trying to say you guys were wrong about any of the facts. I just wanted to be fair and say the compression could be replicated live so it isn't a piece of evidence in our favor, unfortunately. Altho, now that you fully explained what you meant I do understand better exactly what you meant when you said it. I agree Ken is lip-syncing, gaslighting, lying, displays narcissistic tendencies, etc... I'm on your team! 🙂
@MikePhillips-pl6ov
@MikePhillips-pl6ov 9 дней назад
Good points that should be considered. I play bass guitar and one of the few effects I often use is compression, though of course am still playing 'live' even with the compression on.
@redneckenigma3086
@redneckenigma3086 11 дней назад
Lexi is a charming , intelligent human being. Great content!
@emmanuelwolfmusic410
@emmanuelwolfmusic410 11 дней назад
I do singing now and again, I've put some covers on my channel, I'm not amazing but I do everything live , I don't understand why ken is like he is. He's clearly miming with everything we hear, it's disingenuous really.
@azaze-u7r
@azaze-u7r 11 дней назад
Yeah, it's pretty strange, he is older so I'm guessing he can't the notes he could 10 years ago anymore so he fakes it
@JdeBP
@JdeBP 11 дней назад
@@azaze-u7r That would actually be reasonable. But that's not the controversial thing, here. The problematic actions are (a) using sockpuppets to repetitively comment positively in Tamplin's defence, (b) deleting _all_ commentary about lead vocals on backing tracks on Tamplin's own videos, (c) deleting several of the videos outright, (d) claiming to be able to still sing this stuff and "demonstrating" this by not singing in the relevant register, (e) personally attacking Fil Henley, (f) accusing Fil of doing stuff that was _actually_ done by people completely unconnected with Fil who have piggybacked off Fil's analysis to post gravedancing videos, and (g) accusing Fil (sic!) of doing (b) and (c). Oh, and posting a bunch of distraction-fallacy bollocks about "cancel culture" and "fake news" and U.S. politics, when the only person even mentioning any of that is Tamplin xyrself (not even the gravedancers).
@TheBrettWilson
@TheBrettWilson 10 дней назад
The more you understand Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the more you understand people like Ken
@MrCroky123
@MrCroky123 4 дня назад
Thanks for bringing such a knowledgeable guest to understand soooo many interesting details about singing. The Ken thing is actually secondary in this context. It became more obvious the whole idiocy he's portraying.
@LousyFacelift
@LousyFacelift 11 дней назад
The problem is not the lip syncing but lying about it. This inevitably smears Fil from Wings of Pegasus and has many of his fans now in complete denial, lying to themselves about obvious facts.
@karenglenn6707
@karenglenn6707 11 дней назад
I do not agree that it has tarnished Fil at all. It has only proved once again, that he is rational and unbiased, his explanations are clear as is his proof.
@LousyFacelift
@LousyFacelift 11 дней назад
@@karenglenn6707 Hmm... I don't think so... I can't even tell you how much I look up to him for staying this sober and unemotional about Ken's blatant lying bullshit. Just because Fil was so extremely controlled doesn't mean it doesn't bother him to be lied to and questioned by so many brainwashed Ken fans in such an ignorant and arrogant way. Doesn't go together well with christian values, does it? It makes me angry because I can't stand seeing so many people not using their brain!
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 11 дней назад
In which universe does this smear Fil?? Oh yeah, Ken’s.
@LousyFacelift
@LousyFacelift 11 дней назад
@@mattskustomkreations Tthey can't both be right and it's totally obvious Ken is lying... that's smearing to me.
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 11 дней назад
@@LousyFacelift Well, yes Ken is trying to smear Fil, but failing miserably.
@kermitdk4509
@kermitdk4509 11 дней назад
Hi :-) Great video, and Lexi did a great job analyzing Kens vocal skills
@juliadawn33
@juliadawn33 9 дней назад
So a singer actually just popped up in my RU-vid feed. I can not believe I had never heard of him before but his name is Dan Vasc. He is a metal singer and he sang his version of Amazing Grace and it was absolutely incredible. You can tell he has had vocal lessons, has really good control and is able to do heavy metal without sounding like he is screaming and ruining his vocal chords. He gives me 80s heavy metal vibes. His range is really good too. When you compare the two they are miles apart in my opinion.
@pamelah6431
@pamelah6431 7 дней назад
@@juliadawn33 Dan is awesome. See the cover he did of Petra's "Beyond Belief." One of my lifelong favorite songs and bands & they got a couple of Petra's members on it, too.
@AshleyJones-s4p
@AshleyJones-s4p 10 дней назад
Thank you Andy and Lexi, very enlightening
@tooter5250
@tooter5250 10 дней назад
Well, I watched the whole video, and it was really good. Lexi was awesome. Thanks for posting, it was a good interview. And get off the vapes. :)
@pjsvenska3338
@pjsvenska3338 11 дней назад
K is a narcissist.
@Chez8922-kf6cy
@Chez8922-kf6cy 11 дней назад
Absolutely. There is no winning game with narcs. All you can do is run away as fast as you can.
@LillyMarz777
@LillyMarz777 7 дней назад
@pjsvenska3338 Is that the new buzzword?
@pjsvenska3338
@pjsvenska3338 6 дней назад
@@LillyMarz777 It's grown in popularity, it seems. However, I use it when I find it appropriate.
@SVT40AK47
@SVT40AK47 11 дней назад
What ever it is Ken is doing with his tounge just gives me visions of a Parrot. I can’t help it, lol.
@MrKockabilly
@MrKockabilly 10 дней назад
This is not about Ken's singing ability at all. It's about his arrogance and lack of humility.
@dianelogan20
@dianelogan20 10 дней назад
@@MrKockabilly and integrity
@johnbriggs3916
@johnbriggs3916 9 дней назад
Integrity and humility -- if you can fake those, you've got it made 😉
@vernonharden
@vernonharden 7 дней назад
@@johnbriggs3916, and he can't even fake those that well either.
@fretwireonfire
@fretwireonfire 8 дней назад
"His tongue is like a sausage right in the middle of his mouth" I laughed way herder than I should have at that
@Wairoakid
@Wairoakid 11 дней назад
I forgot to add. Great information from Lexi The Red much appreciated you asking her to come on the channel.
@personalwatching9312
@personalwatching9312 7 дней назад
Pro coach from australia here. Lexi is onto it. Lots of ego in the coaching space which i dont care for. Too experienced for that crap, and so is Lexi. But yep. Lexi is correct. And only 35% of the male population is tenor. No amount of training will get a baritone doing what he does because he has a natural high voice, even when speaking. And no one can tell me his parrot tongue isnt horribly ugly to watch.
@davej3736
@davej3736 10 дней назад
Good cast Andy….and Lexi ….enlightening indeed!
@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow
@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow 11 дней назад
i want a vocal coach to teach me to be the next Bob Dylan ..
@sferguson6473
@sferguson6473 11 дней назад
This was super fun. Lexi is a blast!
@flaze3
@flaze3 10 дней назад
I actually think there's a lot of value in talking about head and chest voice. Before I watched a singing success video, I just assumed falsetto was wrong and bad and that you should only sing in chest voice. I only then started to experiment with falsetto and realised just how invaluable it is as a training tool to get the cords to thin out in the higher register. It doesn't matter if they don't actually correspond to real things. They are just simple markers for coordinations that students should work on.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
Falsetto is a description of that higher voice we all have. It's a great idea to use it too, so keep at it. It will increase the range of any singer 🤘
@flaze3
@flaze3 10 дней назад
@@Lexi-The-Red-UK I know. That's why I said I disagree with your objection to using the terms head voice and chest voice.
@scottclark3139
@scottclark3139 10 дней назад
According to Ken, he is a better singer than Freddie Mercury and has recorded more albums than the Rolling Stones which settles it
@libormacat8950
@libormacat8950 4 дня назад
What a great explanation from your friend thumbs up sir
@tangogrrl
@tangogrrl 4 дня назад
Leave a comment and say hi-- OK! first time here-- HI! Informative video. Thanks.
@guitarstuffstudio
@guitarstuffstudio 4 дня назад
Hey, thanks!
@friendofdavid1423
@friendofdavid1423 10 дней назад
The good stuff starts at 7:55.
@steveDC51
@steveDC51 10 дней назад
what a lovely lady.
@alexleclerc1
@alexleclerc1 11 дней назад
There’s no one more exemplary in character than Ken Tamplin. In fact, not only is there no one better on this earth, but even Jesus himself looks up to Ken Tamplin as a role model. Jesus wears a bracelet that says, ‘What would Ken Tamplin do?’”
@jonny9884
@jonny9884 7 дней назад
Thanks, Lexi !
@deed.3230
@deed.3230 11 дней назад
He doesn’t have a great voice. He has a loud voice and he’s got some range but the quality of his voice isn’t particularly great and it often sounds like he’s straining or shouting. And it’s not that distinctive of a voice, either.
@ZENOBlAmusic
@ZENOBlAmusic 11 дней назад
Yes, his voice not very distinctive at all in the hair metal genre, that is part of his problem.
@VIDEOHEREBOB
@VIDEOHEREBOB 11 дней назад
I like that the teacher recognized that Tamplin can definitely sing. But his voice is very unique. I've known Ken before he even did YT. He has changed. I think he has money backers behind the scenes pulling his strings. When you have a channel as big as his, a lot of things can be happening.
@greghughes8147
@greghughes8147 11 дней назад
Ken is a World Class lip syncer and air guitarist
@Wizardofgosz
@Wizardofgosz 11 дней назад
Narcissists hate being "found out." All of these videos must be his nightmare. He has a following of sycophants or cult followers who believe everything he says, and he seemed to be happy with that. But this "Barbara Streisand" moment he's having is exposing him, and I am curious to see how he handles this, and what video(s) he releases next.
@Robot8380-r8q
@Robot8380-r8q 10 дней назад
I predict he suddenly comes down with "vocal inflammation" and goes on indefinite hiatus.
@KillerMcGinty
@KillerMcGinty 11 дней назад
Completely unrelated to the actual subject...but Lexi - if you are reading this, I would love to know where you got that coffee mug?! Thanks in advance!
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
I came online specifically to tell you! Alton Towers. The gift shop for the haunted house 🤘 The mug rocks 🤘 especially at Halloween but I do love it since I got it this summer. Go get one 👻
@KillerMcGinty
@KillerMcGinty 10 дней назад
@@Lexi-The-Red-UK Thanks so much for letting me know! I have never heard of that place before. I live in the U.S. so unfortunately it is not possible to go there now. I looked at their online shop but it is not for sale there. My search will continue. I must have one of those....
@victormoan8267
@victormoan8267 10 дней назад
I disagree that Ken has a really great voice. He sounds good in his lower to middle range. After that, something happens. He spreads wide, sounds nasal. I just don't think it sounds nearly as good as he thinks it does.
@perfumetherapie
@perfumetherapie 6 дней назад
You are NOT an “old lady”!!! Girl, I’m Gen X and I just started my musical career…I perform with guys mostly in their 20s and they treat me as one of them. I also am a widow and single mum to an almost 11 year-old. Don’t hold yourself back! 🙏🙏
@babyjesuslovesme1219
@babyjesuslovesme1219 11 дней назад
I had to check Lexi the reds music. Great and unique
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
Thank you
@babyjesuslovesme1219
@babyjesuslovesme1219 10 дней назад
@@Lexi-The-Red-UK my pleasure
@mrsbegin4185
@mrsbegin4185 11 дней назад
He is a seasoned liar, it seems. He doubled down, should have come clean.
@chillmeister
@chillmeister 11 дней назад
Lexi is great!
@guitarstuffstudio
@guitarstuffstudio 11 дней назад
Lexi is awesome and a very talented musician.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
Not sure about that 😂
@antidote7
@antidote7 11 дней назад
Obviously there are shenanigans going on, hower reverb, compression does not prove lip syncing. It makes total sense to record your live vocal and add verb etc, and replace the room audio from the video with the live recording and backing track. That isn't cheating. That would mean all live albums are lip synced because the audio is produced. However, it does seem obvious he is lip syncing and even doing that with guitar parts.
@doonbiz
@doonbiz 10 дней назад
Fil Henley merely demonstrated the science of one vocal performance differing from another, regardless of how similar the sound. Each vocal sound is unique, you cannot replicate it EXACTLY. FIL pointed this out. It's clear Ken responsibly GAVE NO CAVEAT there was a mix of live AND synced sounds. Ken can't fill science & in my destination is a real sad, pathetic character. I've watched Fil since the start, and my sense, and true belief, is that using facts, he's never once maliciously pursuit anyone. You can get the same pitch monitoring system that Phil has, and get the same results that Fil does.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
I intend to record this experiment...and show people that even when it sounds the same the pitch variance is always there. Wings Of Pegasus is correct
@vernonharden
@vernonharden 7 дней назад
@@Lexi-The-Red-UK, I've been able to do voice characterizations since around the age of four, and I can tell you that even with practice, that there going to be minute differences that may not be distinguishable o the human ear. Also I know that some of what I did is harder, or no longer within my range to do. Ken is almost sixty one, and acts like his voice hasn't changed a bit it seems. Yet it has.
@wyliekat32
@wyliekat32 5 дней назад
Love the cup. Where can I get one?
@guitarstuffstudio
@guitarstuffstudio 4 дня назад
I think it's from alton towers
@ericgeorge5531
@ericgeorge5531 8 дней назад
I like Ken Tamplin. Has interesting insight. The Al Franken mode is amusing.
@jockez3581
@jockez3581 11 дней назад
Great analysis! 👏
@MikeSalopek
@MikeSalopek 11 дней назад
Thanks for a respectful video of someone that was a musical hero of mine in the 80s. Back in the day before autotune etc, he sang in a band in a land before time called Shout. Christian Rock was GAWSH AWEFUL back then, and he came in with this amazing sounding vocal style and harmonies. He then recorded under his own name in the 90s and even brought in some stellar guitar masters as guests on tracks on some of his album tracks. LOVED THESE SONGS!!!! I signed up for his vocal course a couple of months ago before the scandal broke, I learned nothing. I am disappointed by his doubling down, and the deceptions. NOT THROWING THE BABY OUT with the bath water though. I LOVE THESE OLD songs. I will till listen, but I am interested in a good vocal program to help me with leading worship for church. Anyway, you handled this more respectfully than perhaps my disappoint could have even allowed at this point. Thank You EDIT, just heard Lexi will offer a course in time, I am interested if online lessons. Keep us posted.
@deed.3230
@deed.3230 10 дней назад
@@MikeSalopek You learned nothing from his vocal classes? Really? His class looks expensive. What kind of stuff does he teach? Did you ask for a refund? Just curious. I’d never heard of him until the scandal broke.
@TheBrettWilson
@TheBrettWilson 10 дней назад
Don't RU-vid Shout "live" at Cornerstone 1989 then. More disappointment. More miming. Decades of deception
@MikeSalopek
@MikeSalopek 10 дней назад
@@deed.3230 It was an introductory $1 for a month offer so no need to even ask for a refund on that.
@MikeSalopek
@MikeSalopek 10 дней назад
@@TheBrettWilson I'm aware I've been down that rabbit hole since all of this started. I still have my CDs I still enjoy those at least
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
Can you post a link to your singing at all? Are you looking to project your voice forward so the room can hear you, without a mic...?
@Gilmore72
@Gilmore72 10 дней назад
Hi Andy, good stuff, keep it up.
@MarcovandenHout
@MarcovandenHout 11 дней назад
I'm learning stuff thanks to Ken Tamplin and whoever asked Fil to check his audio recordings ;-)
@everythingbobbywolfe
@everythingbobbywolfe День назад
Ken's tongue is reminiscent of princess Leia choking out jabba the hut.
@kidwaryodproduction
@kidwaryodproduction 6 дней назад
22:41 Lexi demonstration sound like she's covered Poison "Open Up and Say Ahhhhh" album 😆
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 7 дней назад
He’s reading Singing for Dummies because that’s what he thinks his audience is.
@dbjury
@dbjury 8 дней назад
But Ken is the greatest guitar player in the world. Im just waiting patiently for his guitar course for $999 per month
@ZENOBlAmusic
@ZENOBlAmusic 11 дней назад
Ken voice is up to taste, he sings with a hair metal voice that is not for everyone, but he can sing or he could sing. He is obviously a lyric tenor he knows nothing about voice types. I found a post on his forum where he insinuated that he was teaching the secret or "lost" bel canto style from early 1800's, that is utterly and completely ridiculous. The sad fact today is that you can get your masters degree like Lexi and you can go to an Italian conservatory and you can still very likely sing with a compromised technique. Knowledge or understanding about singing technique is disappearing. But what she said was very sound.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
They teach Bel Canto in Italy (I was taught that), and Japan (my students came here knowing that), so it is very much alive a kicking even today.
@chrisw5742
@chrisw5742 10 дней назад
Listen up. I sang for multiple technical death metal bands. I used EXTREME RASP in my voice. Ken's technique SUCKS. He is closing his throat off to sing and his highs are nothing but falsetto.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
Tru dat 🤘
@naturalLin
@naturalLin 8 дней назад
i follow a few opera singer on tiktok; they focus on teaching "using the pharygeal part" they do focus using the AE sound; they
@ThePoorBoy
@ThePoorBoy 11 дней назад
Sounds like Ken could benefit from some vocal lessons with Lexi! But of course his ego and narcissism are too massive for him to do such a thing at this point. It sounds to me like he did in fact read Singing for Dummies and probably some other books and basically attempted to teach himself how to use techniques that really require instruction and guidance from an experienced coach. Sounds like he's doing several things wrong, and it's no wonder why so many people who have done his online course report that they've experienced a lot of discomfort when doing his exercises. And this whole idea of taking an online course without any real-time feedback from a coach is just a bad idea. There are some things that shouldn't be learned solely online. It's easy to do things wrong and do damage.
@Lexi-The-Red-UK
@Lexi-The-Red-UK 10 дней назад
He probably does know his stuff, he's been singing and performing a long time by the looks of it. Singers get into habits, and habits can be hard to unpick especially if you like the sound and want to keep it. I don't think he'll teach those habits though, but that then brings in a question of authenticity...students like to know you practise what you teach. And every student deserves continuous feedback otherwise the student will make avoidable mistakes, which no one wants.
@vernonharden
@vernonharden 7 дней назад
Yes it is easy to do things wrong, and doing so can do damage to the very delicate instrument that are our vocal chords.
@jimmer1047
@jimmer1047 5 дней назад
🤣🤣 thanks! First channel I've seen that mentions that WEIRD chit he does with his tongue! Lol
@stevenrandall3439
@stevenrandall3439 7 дней назад
Good work
@rudel1950
@rudel1950 10 дней назад
Appreciate the information very much,... I always thought Ken looked weird with the way he sticks his tongue out like a parrot when none of the singers he is doing covers of do that with their tongues : )
@douglascaskey7302
@douglascaskey7302 10 дней назад
Ken could sing... like 20 years ago. Which is why he has to lip sync not only his live performances, but the studio stuff as well. Fil also pointed out that Ken was not even playing guitar in that studio video... kind of hard to play at the 24th fret when the guitar only has 22. All that aside... Ken is a condescending narcissist. He's always putting down other singers way better than himself - like Freddie Mercury - saying how HE would sing that song. BUT he'll contradict himself by professing he can teach you to sing like Freddie Mercury.
@JavierID
@JavierID 8 дней назад
Great vid
@AidenCassaroArt
@AidenCassaroArt 8 дней назад
I thought everyone knew that he was miming. The first time I watched him sing in a video years ago, it was so obvious. I think he could've saved his reputation by just coming clean. But the problem is that he made his slogan "proof is in the singing" or whatever. Also him constantly saying that he's the best.
@Naniamania3
@Naniamania3 11 дней назад
The proof is in the synching
@danehlers9989
@danehlers9989 11 дней назад
Sorry, I don't like Ken's voice at all.
@vaiman7777
@vaiman7777 10 дней назад
@@danehlers9989 Agree, he’s a generic club singer at best. Not bad, but he’s not great. Good for cheese 80s rock, that’s it.
@jonathanvince8173
@jonathanvince8173 11 дней назад
Singing 3rd edition it £14.25 up to £18.49 for 2003
@MiguelRodrigues-io7gh
@MiguelRodrigues-io7gh 11 дней назад
🗣heeeeeeyy heeeeeyy😂😂😂😂
@jonathanvince8173
@jonathanvince8173 11 дней назад
I would be interested in what you both think of the new generation two real singers performers that are still finding their feet. Courtney Hadwin who has learnt to play guitar Keyboard and the same with Angelina Jordan as both were in shows and on youtube at an early age. They are both of older style singing what you both think compared to how young singers are now.
@gabrielsansar6187
@gabrielsansar6187 11 дней назад
did she just say he has a very good voice ???? um.......... nope he sounds crap
@mattlewis5095
@mattlewis5095 10 дней назад
It sounds like a tenner's about right for his course. How do you pay a legal team on that though? IMO Tamplin's problem is that he doesn't have any natural soul to fall back on now his range has gone (it seems down to a reliance on muscle he just can't control at his age). Technically he might have been able 'to do it all' once - but so what? I used to listen to loads of heavier music, he's not only nowhere near Robert Plant and Freddy Mercury etc, even the bands who were too corny for me probably had singers I'd rather listen to personally (ultimately more distinctive singers). Which is probably why no on has ever heard of any of his 40 odd albums. He does look the part, but I'm guessing his 'tampon tongue' or whatever he calls it probably didn't help him much in terms of being signed as a rock star. You don't have to be a singing coach to work out that will never be a good technique. Not for singing anyway.
@vernonharden
@vernonharden 7 дней назад
As someone that does voice characterizations, one of the worst things you can do us strain the vocal chords, to reach pitches that has moved out of your range, with aging.
@drewb007
@drewb007 16 часов назад
Ken is the living embodiment of the sunk cost fallacy.
@guitar_noodle
@guitar_noodle 3 дня назад
I always found K’s tongue thing very odd. I have never seen his “students” do that. I’ve always suspected that the singers he featured on his channel could already sing well. I think he pays them to sing but probably didn’t learn much or none at all from him.
@kidwaryodproduction
@kidwaryodproduction 7 дней назад
5:46 Not gonna lie. I occasion confused between name of WingsofPegasus and WingsofRedemption 😅
@ZiggyTheAdventurer
@ZiggyTheAdventurer 22 часа назад
I've only ever heard him yelling, very little control, no versatility, no falsetto, no light soft singing, just belting it out. unless you have trained for decades like that, you will not make it longer than 3 songs and most likely hurt yourself.
@tobias783
@tobias783 11 дней назад
Great video. : )
@callmealphalfa8425
@callmealphalfa8425 11 дней назад
Still contend his fake solo miming is comically worse
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