Respected Professor, Problem with all Muslims Thoughts were and still today 1) We stopped evaluation in that Thoughts. We take it in Absolute Form. Everything is variable with the passage of time. No one is 100% correct. When we evaluate 100% correctness is our benchmark. Everything is time bound. Tolerance is Zero. Adjustments/ Rectification is absolutely necessary to grow.
Taimur saab aap aur aap jaise kai pakistan ke podcaster jinhe mein aksar sunta aur dekhta hun sach aman ke farishte hain. Kam se kam is khite mein aap ki bahut jarurat hai. Sachai kya hai, lekin bachpan se hi kamobesh islam aur musalmano ke bare mein alag najariya hi sikhaya gaya. Religous discourse mein ya partition ki vajah se bhi. Lekin mein UP, TAMIL, KERLA YA BENGAL MEIN REHNE WALE HINDU SE PAKISTAN KI PUNJAB PROVINCE MEIN RAHNE WALE MUSLIM SE JYADA COMMON TRAITS SHARE KARTA HUN.
Dr. Taimoor has diagnosed the problem correctly for the most part but I don't think his solution is pragmatic for it is too ambiguous but we can't complain, because such lectures are not enough for detailed explanations. But I think developing on Sir Muhammad Iqbal's idea will be much more practical and pragmatic and actually possible, unlike doctor's respected solution here. Iqbal proposed something similar to a quietist ideology. The politics works separate from the religion but there must be a separate administrative body consisting of learned Islamic scholars who will influence public opinion using the religious dialectic. This is a very good idea because if we have a population who is influenced by fundamentalist ideas funded by external governments, then why not create a body of our own to influence people instead of letting them be influenced by ideas supported by external powers for their benefits. As Iqbal himself was a socialist and left-leaning, I don't think there are any inherent contradictions between the secularist ideology and Iqbal's ideas.
And you mentioned disagreements between political parties of Pakistan and Establishment, do you really think that its a religious disagreement? And you also mentioned Fall of Dhaka which wasn't happend due to religious disagreement. So please don't try to make people foul.
A very detailed information about the history of Pakistan and role of fundamentalism. I think one more important factor that led to creation of Bangladesh was / is racism . Racism still prevails in the society and people in power in Pakistan. Pl do make some video on racism in Pakistan as well as in the world.
Sir, Although Said kuthab etc were used against the socialism through Fundamentalism but Maududi sab was very old than communism. Maududi 's religious thoughts (thabir deen) was so old. Perhaps ,Madudi 's piker deen maybe wrong but he is free from the wistern game against socialism.
Bhai we respect him but that doesn't make him absolute. He is very biased with communism. And qaiser raja is also right on most of his points. Faisal waraich also disagreed on his views on communism. Why are you pointing out qaiser raja for just being from religious side
1:25:55. اگر یہ secularism کی definition ہے تو یہی تو اسلام ہے... اسلام بھی تو یہی کہتا ہے کہ کہ ساری communities سے ایک جیسا سلوک ہی ہونا چاہیے... بس مسئلہ یہ ہے کہ ہم نے اسلام پرہنے کی بجائے history of Muslims کو صرف دیکھا...
Dr Taimur Rehman seems to be intellectual when he talks about philosophy, economics etc But the moment he comments on Islam he loose the depth of discourse
Bro he is discussing Zia ul haq, Talibans and Osama bin Laden atrocites which were backed by capitalists like US and other Europe countries. The Topic has nothing to do with islam. Its a fact that they misused Islam core and are the culprits
@@hamza_ME_ @hamza_ME_ but al zulfiqar killed only one person named Major tarik by hijacking PIA plane .. but al shams and al badar participated in gènocìde of bengali Muslims and r*pe of bengali women ... and they talk about sharm o haya , maghribi tehreeb ki khurafat, etc. shame
Sorry sir but disagree on some points like world trade center and October 7 attack. The matter is not that simple. As far as Pakistan terriosim concern it's also not that simple yes Pakistan army do not want to be attacked but it's long story and without context you can't understand it. Yes we are facing religious extremism agree
So what's the reason behind world trade centre ? Is this justifiable that innocent civilians should be targeted due to some American policies ..and attackers are not Japanese and veitnames but Saudis why ?
@envalis44 to eliminate and for Palestinian freedom kidnapping of unarmed civilians , women , old persons , children is necessary ? Do you think Hammas is going to establish a free Palestine 🇵🇸 state where all a of their religions, are equal .. do you think hammas is freedom fighter? Before , in August 2021, you people used to call taliban freedom fighters . Now tell me, is pakistan state apartheid for baloch people .
@envalis44 after 7th October 28000 gaza people have been died .. is this right path to take back freedom ... o come on this is religious war in which Muslims are going to kill all Jews either they are hiding behind stones and trees ( hadith says) I think you never ever heard about kurdistan ( state occupied by 4 countries turkey , Iraq, Iran and Syria) because this does not suit your religious narrative You would never talk about Indonesian invasion on east taimur ( a Christian country) as again it does not suit your religious narrative There are lots of examples which I can mention for you Another is darfur massacre since 2003 in sudan 🇸🇩 but you don't know about it .. I support Palestine 🇵🇸 a free state Israel 🇮🇱 does brutality through bombing no doubt And thousands of Palestinians have been killed since October 7 .. is this tactic of hammas true and justifiable ? 1300 Israelis civilians have been killed and lots of Israelis have been abducted ..thousands gaza people have died Shame on this
@envalis44 is Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 apartheid state for nokornokarabakh people ? Please answer me Why you people and your media don't speak even a single word on it 🤔
Dr. Taimoor. It's request to you to please conduct discussions on the popular counter narratives that we have against western capitalism and imperialism. Koi aisa nizam qaim hosakta hai jo Islamic bhi ho aur aik practical and realistic bhi ho in that it can hold its own against the imperialist forces at least in principle. I think the secular socialist narrative falls short in the sense kay it lacks an islamic coloring. And the islamic riyasat wala narrative falls short kyunkay bilkul impractical hai and eventually musalmanon kay against use kya jaata hai. Is mouzoo pay koi discussion ho
Studying social phenomena through the lens of scientific analysis doesn’t imply that official government explanations are the only valid reasons. The world is complex, and it’s important to have a more nuanced approach than the one you presented, where you dismissed all motives of war as being based solely on external factors, rather than a more complex combination of internal and external influences. My comment is more on your gross oversimplification explanation on America’s lust for wars which many Americans would even disagree with, including myself.
taimur sb , huge fan here . However I would like you to re-visit the pentagon attack theory . It isn't as cut and dry as it was initially thought to be and numerous scientists and journalist now have such questions that the government hasn't ever provided satisfactory answer to . It is quite possible that the government was involved. You yourself teach the ills and ails of capitalism and how it completely demolishes any concept of loyalty between the super class , and the subordinate class correct ? This shouldn't be difficult for you to understand then , that a government IS CAPABLE of harming its own citizens. The objectives can be many . For example the wasted trillion dollars spent on the war on terror , that obviously did go into someone's pocket and achieved nearly nothing. They set out to crush taliban but comically failed . Anyways I digress. My main argument here was whenever the term conspiracy theory is tossed around in any enviornment , immediately the argument that is boxed in that theory is dimissed isn't that so ? . If I narrate an anecdote to you and mid sentence someone comes and tells you dont bother with this tale , it is a conspiracy theory . You would immediately cease to analyze the tale and regard it as fable. It is worth investigating whatever happened that day on sept 11. Huge fan here . Been following you since 3 years . Completely on board with whatever you teach and preach . much love !
Dr sahib please don't equate the European history with the history of Muslim world, before British empire there was no feudal system in Muslim world because there was not a concept of private property. The 40-70% land of Muslim world was held by auqafs not by feudals. You are imposing the Western European historical experience to whole over the world. Fundamentalist are not aware of capitalism because they don't know the theoretical discussions about capitalism. If they would have these engraspings then they would be anti imperialist and capitalist e.g Iran is anti imperialist. Please don't impose the Western European historical experience to whole over the Muslim or hindiu or Confucian world. You are cheating it with intention.
@Taimur_Laal Dr sahb I'm really confused,on one hand you are saying that Muslim empire like Mughal, ottoman etc were ruled by warrior but the reason for the fall of these empires were religious clergy,please don't over relate to satisfy your thinking which is just congested to European history,there was no doubt west was backing Islamic idealogy but through the policy of check and balance,but you can't criticize Islamic idealogy due to it's backing as we can't criticize Marxist idealogy of Communism due it's practicality in the prospects of central Asian countries from where resources were redirected to central state of Moscow to nourish east Europe to show off prosperity in their idealogicall economy
Another confusion is that you are saying religious beliefs should be Man's personal matter,but when you come to a point of slavery you objected that it should be at state level if it is absolute in it's essence, Islam is the only religion and the first ideology who initiate the culture of freeing slaves,you actually present historical facts but you forget that historically Kurds were slaves,and Salahuddin ayobi was kurd they ruled the Muslim empires ottomans were slaves they ruled one of big empire,your heroes like Abraham Lincoln who fought against the slavery system, do not give their actual right as they were the owner of the American land in pre colonial era,after that their land was grabbed by white European who still dominate the land
Jnab China is a communist country with a veneer of capitalism. Takreban sare unicorn companies main unka share hai aur unki board meetings main government present huti hai. China main abhi bhi buhat masail hai jesa One party system. In masail ko agar wo hal kar lain tu China will be an ideal country. It will have the best of both worlds.
@Abton there are no civil rights in China like in the US and Europe like political , social , cultural, and religious freedom. And you know nobody from Pakistan wants to live in China 🇨🇳 Not only in China, now India is also producing unicorns like Ambani, tata , adani, etc In usa 🇺🇸 there are thousands of unicorns ..we have heard these unicorns from 1970s 1980, even almost century before Like billgates , Jeff bezos now Elon musk etc
This lecture just exposed this guy. For a good 30 mins i had no idea where is he leading us to. Necessarily he tried to complicate the topic and mix in details that were not essential at this point. However it helped him complicate, and as he wanted to paint this whole concept with conspiracies and extremism and what not as if that would fool someone on the look for some actual truth. He didn’t do justice to the whole concept and he is by no way an authority on the matter. Pakistani left is yet another shade of ignorance in our whole society, and it carries all the features of a semi literate, unsophisticated, openly biased, uncritical of themselves, and a self deceiving spectrum of thinking.
This type of Funda mentalism is main obstruction of yours economic development.you adopted a system of ruling according to your Islamic system is like "Allah ka mullah,mullah ka mulki".where are common people in your system of ruling.plz adopt the system of socialistic secular model which is real one of Indian continent.
We can split the world 🌍 history in two parts 1 before 9-11 and after 9-11 This was planned by US authorities Molvi itna bara kaam naheen kr sakta Wo loudspeaker pe America ko galiyan decskta hy bs
ڈاکٹر صاحب اپنے لاہور اسلام اباد کراچی کا نام تو لیا مگر پشاور چارسدہ شمالی و جنوبی وزیرستان کے تمام علاقے جو اس دہشتگردی کیوجہ کھنڈر بن گیے نام نہیں لیا۔ حالانکہ دیکھا جاے جتنی تباہی و بردبادی جانی و مالی شکل میں پشتون بیلٹ میں کہیں اور اتنی نہیں وہی۔ تو اپ سے درخواست ہے کہ اسطرح کے لیکچر میں سب سے پہلے ان علاقوں کو بھی یاد کیا کریں
Look at the condition of 1.4 billion Muslims of this world who follow the tenants of Islam night and day, does it look like they have found the "Ultimate solution" ? na kar bhai.
@@pappu33 bro ham musalman aur specially jin k pass authority hain woh Islam ko kitna follow karte hain main bhi janta hoon aur aap bhi, ham sab mafadparasti aur beimani main lage huwe hain, sab ko bas apni apni padi huwi hai ham log ethics aur morallity main bohat nichay gir chuke hain, imandar aur sache insan ko ham log bewaqoof samajhte hain jabhi to hamara yeh haal hai
extremism @Truthbeliever3446 you are out of your mind I will See if somebody occupies and invades your house and you fight back and peopLe caLL you an extremist too!hows that for you?
