It's really straightforward to understand what you were conveying. By presenting different kinds of profiles and making comparisons, you help us get a thorough understanding of slog. Beautiful job!!💯💕
Excellent video! I have already purchased the Phantom Arri LUTs with your code and they are amazing! In post I have very little to change. It is only recently that I leant how to expose correctly in S-Log2 using histogram and zebras which makes all the difference. Shooting outdoors I also use a Hoya ND8 filter which again helps if in bright sunlight. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your low light video.
Using V-LOG L the first time it was an amazing experience for me I will never miss! My older cameras doesn't support LOG-mode, so it was an eye opener to me. Thanks for your channel and your calming style...👍
I think i can simplify this: log is useful whenever the internal camera picture profiles aren't working for you or your style. If you have the option to create a custom profile and use that, it's better. Log is a last resort suitable for people with a good amount of experience with messing with luma curves
Very early on in my film career I simply used to just adjust the contrast, and sharpness by lowering them and save the setting to use again, it gives you the same effect as an official log format which does the same thing.
Just watched two of your videos and I definitely have to watch all of the others too. :D Great knowledge, great realization of the videos and very positive person. Greets from Germany.
So basically Logs are like Raw photos. Both retain a lot of information from the video and photos to where you can bring back most of what the original lighting and colors. That or do more with them during post.
This was also my way of thinking about it, until I found out you can also shoot video in RAW. Each frame is a RAW file, so video file sizes get HUGE. Shooting log is sort of an in-between jpeg and RAW. At least that is how it was explained to me.
I'm a little late... worked in film and retouching for a long time. Worked as a color lab printer for 15 years, printing all kinds of commercial work. The problem with that is I still dream about working in the lab with those four Chromega enlargers, and those beaten down easels that should have all been dumped. Made a short noir when the 5D Mark II came out, shot some cool Robbin Ford, Pat Martino and Dave Liebman footage, all on youtube, and no matter what you can say about tech, it's about waking up with an idea in your head. If you go back to the late 1920's early 1930's, they already had figured out how to combine film stock, lenses, filters, (those now impossible to find rare gauze filters made from french women's stockings) and lighting to make us notice what they wanted us to notice, and do it perfectly. We watched the eyes. We didn't find ourselves staring at some odd little bump or defect, wondering well, if Carol Lombard had that and got away with it....when digital first pretended to be worthy, everything was in focus. That's fine for an R.E.I. ski video, but not for telling a story. Your eye was not directed. I figured out a way to shoot a night scene using only available street light. I shot a plate of the scene, and layered that over the film, except for the actor's area. It eliminated 90% of the noise in the shadows. Here's my short noir, Bum Rap, on the imdb web site. These imdb films seem to take about 4 seconds to start. www.imdb.com/video/vi976727833
Help! As a noobie here, I'm trying to find out if LOG is an industry standard setting across all video makers or... is it different for each company? AND... it seems LOG is basically a 'pre-set' similar to an EQ as in music production? (I have more of an audio background.). Thanks in advance!
The best way to use log is to change your color space from log to, lets say, rec 709 o wathever is your color space. LUTs are destructive if you can't use it properly, but changing your color space directly means that you can really tweak everything without fear.
@@CSMoviePhoto i literally do it every single day, cause log has a non linear color space that need to be transformed to linear color space. You can edit log without a color space transform, but it will be way harder.
@@Danimally You can't use log with Rec709. LUT are not destructive in any way. You simply can't change color space from a low color space to a large one in post so you can't use a low color space with a log. LUT affect not only the dynamic light curve but colors too. It is not a simply way or explanation on gamma and LUT.
@@CSMoviePhoto go yo davinci and try. LUTs are destructive if you cant use them properly, if you use them right there's no problem. You can certainly use a LOG file with Rec709 if you transform the color space (that's what ACES workflow roughly do). I'm just using Rec709 as an example of color space, not of the best(tm) color space. Point is that a logarithmic curve file will look awful over a EDL with a linear output, and will need a lot of color grading work... or you can just simply transform the color space from your log file to your output color space and work from there
@@Danimally you simply don't get to right point. Here is from Sony, and is under a DaVinci Resolve pic: "Shoot in a wide colour gamut Normal video footage is shot in the REC.709 colour gamut, but material recorded in S-Log is recorded in the much wider S-Gamut colour space. Put simply, the wider the colour gamut, the more colour information can be recorded and the more vibrant and realistic your images will look.More information, more control S-Log captures far more information than standard REC.709 footage can record, giving you more control over the finished image in post-production. Instead of exposing for highlights or shadows when shooting, you can capture all of this information and choose how you want to display it later."
Harv, did you shoot this internally or externally? If internally, I think you should do another test using the workaround to get the true log curve in camera.
Can you make a vid of how to transfer raw c log vids from your camera to your pc every time i try to download the vids it won’t let me can you help me out
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff James Harvey, I'd rather watch your music videos with Amy or on the LOG for colorists than Amy-Jayne Batt's Vlog ... What did she do with her voice ? Her voice is the product she has to sell, not beauty products 🤥Now other than that thanks for your tutos and I wish u an amy Chrismtas 😀🍷🍷
i am desperately trying to understand log so forgive me if i come off as a bit of a devil's advocate; but in the first example, you said you exposed log to be somewhere in between, but you never did that standard profile, so the fact that you got somewhat better results with log there couldn't it simply be because you set the exposure to midway, and you could have achieved the exact same result with standard?
why does standard look so blurry at 5:36 while log is much more clear and sharp? u said log is for colors shadows/highlights, not sharpening so now i dont understand it.. i feel like while u were editing log colors u also sharpened it...
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff so what is it then, is left one out of focus slightly? or v-log actually makes video sharper? i mean if it does then its actually worth unlocking. shadows/highlights wasnt really good enough reason for me but that sharper video is deal maker
I wish I could tell you but it was ages ago, I wouldn’t have changed the focal point between switching modes…not intentionally anyway 😂 from my experience there’s no real difference in detail/sharpness between rec709 and log so just pick based on your dynamic range requirements and colour preferences 👍🏻
I have 4k log video shooting option with manual control on my phone 😇 obviously my phone can never compete professional cameras but still having such feature is kinda blessing.
Harv, would you please look at the video from about 7:08 through 7:42. Your mouth movement in the video does not match the audio as you were talking. This, of course, does not detract from your outstanding explanation of log.
Not the same, log is a gamma (contrast) curve and prores is a ‘wrapper’ for the file, similar to xavc etc. So you could have a prores video file which was filmed in LOG. Hopefully that makes sense, I tried 😅
you have explained well, keep it up. but your color grading is terrible, you should learn more in that area brother. the way you spoke was really great
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff i did, but it wasn’t good enough. It seems like some people do editing in phone. Just an advise, you can take it or leave it, the videos colour grading is really poor. You have to learn more in that area. On the other hand, your presentation is great.
That’s not advice, it’s just your opinion and these days everyone thinks they’re an expert just because they use resolve. Not good enough for what? For RU-vid? I make videos for entertainment only, just for RU-vid. Try being constructive with your criticism, because right now your manner stinks
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff i don’t care what shit you make. If someone point out on your video that doesn’t mean that is criticism. As a viewer it was my opinion. If you cant take anyones opinion or comments. Go to your bathroom and cry.
Thanks for the great explanation, however I got the opposite result when I tested with my Sony a7IV… the log version has LESS contrast/sharpness, compared to original, non-log video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EOVzC6iltc8.html
