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What Is Modal Jazz? (Hint: It's Not About the Modes!) 

Jeremy Siskind
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Pianist, educator, composer, and stunt double Jeremy Siskind discusses what modal jazz is and isn't. You might be surprised! He then uses the tunes "Recordame" and "Infant Eyes" to discuss the inner workings of modal jazz and the misconceptions many musicians have about it.

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@jonathancoulter1859
@jonathancoulter1859 10 месяцев назад
I’m new to jazz and music theory (a scientist, so pretty removed from this world). I have an amazing teacher, and your videos are a wonderful compliment to my lessons and reading. Thank you so much for providing these videos; you are very clear and engaging. Much appreciated!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 10 месяцев назад
Thanks so much, Jonathan! I'm honored. For some reason there seems to be a connection, I get a lot of Ph.d's and professors ordering my books for some reason. 🤷‍♂️
@janevonmaltzahn2667
@janevonmaltzahn2667 6 месяцев назад
There's a LIFETIME of learning in the books! And just like the videos - so well put together, step-by-step exercises. I start my day w one of his videos and a cuppa, then practice from his books.. So amazing and generous of Jeremy to post these. I mean, only. the privileged few who already had lots of training used to get access to teachings from a master performer like this, and then only at an exclusive music conservatory. THANKS!
@ryonambaa
@ryonambaa Год назад
I'm working through book 1 and I love it!! Thanks for the amazing teaching and playing you put out there :)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
That makes me so happy to hear, Ryo!
@arthurmee
@arthurmee Год назад
I'm not a pianist but I was looking for a definition/description of what atonal Jazz is. Loved your tutorial, watched to the end and, crucially, I now understand much better what modal Jazz is. Many thanks.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
That makes me happy! Thank you for that comment!
@bk8biokiller8
@bk8biokiller8 Год назад
Took me a while to actually understand and be able to write "modal" pieces of music with jazz influences, because all explanations are really bad even on books. Most of tutorial try to explain modal music as chord progression on a single mode, and that’s not how it works most of the time at least on a jazz context. You really nailed it with your modal jazz explanations, this is by far the best explanation I have found online. Cheers!
@tmasterp
@tmasterp Год назад
I thought the breakdown of the three categories was perfect. I am no where near the teacher you are but i have a couple students and always struggled when they inevitably discover the term “modal” and start rattling off the modes. You put into words what i couldnt so thanks!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
I’m so happy to help, Taylor! Thanks for the nice note!
@jgyoungmdaic
@jgyoungmdaic 20 дней назад
One of your finest works. Thanks
@christopherhuber9037
@christopherhuber9037 Год назад
Lot to digest here but it lays out some skills on how to analyze these sheets better. Thanks!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Awesome! Thanks, Chris!
@DojoOfCool
@DojoOfCool Год назад
Excellent video. As for your opening about some saying your book take more than six months. As the Jazz guitar legend Howard Roberts (HR) would say.... The task increases with the time allotted. I was a student at GIT/MI in early days when HR's curriculum was still being taught and he talked about this. He said people will learn something in the time they are told they are given, that is why some college teach on the Quarter system and some in semesters. They teach the cover the same material but Quarter system in half the time, which increase how hard the task is. For some that task is too difficult and they tend to do will in semester based schools. Same thing happen in working world if you boss gives you two months to complete a project you will pace yourself to finish it in two months, but if you boss had said three weeks and you wanted to keep your job you'd find a way to do it in three weeks. There was more to all this HR used to call "Learning Cycles" on how people learn. I found it very interesting talking to HR about this topic.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Very wise and interesting! Great food for thought.
@keneokpareke1753
@keneokpareke1753 Год назад
I watched longer than 20 minutes :D This is more advanced than my current level, but I picked out a couple of things. Thanks
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Nice, I'm glad you were able to put some things together. Maybe you'll come back to the video in a few months when your knowledge is more solid.
@joshrossi1268
@joshrossi1268 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for sharing this. I really appreciate the entire video. My passion for music grows through your teaching and playing. Beautiful music. I liked playing along too.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 месяцев назад
Man, that's so nice, Josh! Let me know if there's ever anything I can help you with (musically, that is. Can't lend ya any money. 😜 )
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 Год назад
Very clear and thorough explanation:I learned a lot. Super important info. Thank you, Maestro. 🔥🔥🔥🔥I'll be repeating this vid more than a few times. BTW, Infant Eyes was beautifully played. Mucho Thanxo.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Thank you! Infant Eyes is such a freakin’ good tune it almost makes me mad. 😂
@urzathehappy72
@urzathehappy72 Год назад
Thanks for the free lesson very helpful and beautiful music
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
My pleasure, Roger! Thanks for the nice comment and wishing you a very wonderful new year!
@stuartheadey5240
@stuartheadey5240 Год назад
Very enlightening. Thanks Jeremy.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
My pleasure, Stuart!
@123teixeira123
@123teixeira123 9 месяцев назад
again, loved it! do you have other videos analysing songs like you were doing here? just beginning to know your channel
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 9 месяцев назад
Here’s a recent one you might like: Jeremy Explains Crystal Silence by Chick Corea ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gMO9ojr9awU.html
@arcine3976
@arcine3976 Год назад
I cant believe you wrote that book!! My grandad gave it to me a few months ago I've loved it, complete coincidence that I click on a random video and find the author.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Awesome, I'm so happy that you like the book!
@paul_bliven
@paul_bliven Год назад
Great video and thanks for introducing me to Infant Eyes!!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
What a song, eh? It’s really beautiful!
@embrown23
@embrown23 2 месяца назад
I just ordered your first book and now I’m more excited. I know book one is basics but the way you’ve explained modal jazz clicked, so I’m optimistic about your teaching style!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Месяц назад
AWesome! I'm really happy it clicked for you! By the way, I don't think it existed when I came out with this video, but there's now a Jazz Piano Fundamentals Book 3 that is focused on modal and modern jazz.
@embrown23
@embrown23 Месяц назад
@@JeremySiskind Thank! I’ll get there eventually. Book 1 is very thorough. 😂
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 2 месяца назад
Great vid. I love modal stuff, borrowing chords for parallel modes and exotic scales always strike me as more emotional than typical 2-5-1s
@NomeDeArte
@NomeDeArte Год назад
Thank you for this video, so useful! Best regards from Argentina
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Great! I'm thrilled - thank you!
@YanyanLun
@YanyanLun 4 месяца назад
wow love love love i love ur way of teaching so much
@josephmurphy407
@josephmurphy407 8 месяцев назад
Instant like for the Borges collections in the background!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 7 месяцев назад
I'm a big Borges fan! There's a lot of Bolaño on that shelf too!
@aaronfrank9649
@aaronfrank9649 2 месяца назад
Thanks Jeremy!
@raytrace2014
@raytrace2014 2 месяца назад
As someone who studied and composed (less so these days) jazz and classical music the addition of atonal as a category alongside modal and tonal in your explanation at the beginning is key (pun intended). Even if someone has no interest or even a strong aversion to atonal music it really needs to be understood in order to understand what atonal music is not, i.e. modal or tonal music. Good work.
@madamelagent8520
@madamelagent8520 Год назад
I laughed at 6:55 when you were about to play the first chord of "so what", placed your fingers but did not ahah (good video)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Ahaha, it doesn't always go as planned. Thanks for watching, Madame!
@robertodagostini4946
@robertodagostini4946 Год назад
this was a great video to find and practice off of
@tjm9565
@tjm9565 2 месяца назад
Great vid! What software are you using to put the music onto the screen in realtime/as you film?
@RoyTheReplicant
@RoyTheReplicant Год назад
Thanks 😊for the explanation.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
You’re so welcome. Thanks for watching!!!
@jlcrut3
@jlcrut3 8 месяцев назад
Excellent tutorial thanks. One question: If you only had the melody and no chords, the first 4 measures could, in theory, be any mode of Eb major (f dorian etc., especially c aeolian. So without chords written I'd just hear the Bb, Eb, Ab seven note collection. Does this make sense? Did you come up with Eb M because it was notated?
@123teixeira123
@123teixeira123 9 месяцев назад
Love this! do you have a transcription for what you played on 16:00?
@steelplayer811
@steelplayer811 Год назад
I'm a steel player. This is excellent. Thank you.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
You're very welcome, Michael!
@protobard
@protobard Год назад
@4:44 you're saying the Ab-6 to Eb∆ is the same as a Bb7(sus b9). Which makes sense since they are modes of the same scale. Which should mean that almost any voicing from that scale should work ie G7(alt), Db7(#11) would also be viable choices to lead to an Eb∆, assuming it doesn't conflict with the melody? So is it much of a stretch to take any alteration of the V and move the root to play other modes of that chord/scale. Say Bb7(alt) could be Cb-6, Db7(sus b9), E7(#11). Or Bb7(#11) could be E7(alt), F-6, G7(sus b9) etc, and so on with not only just the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 7th modes but all modes of jazz minor? At what point does it not become so viable to use the mode, say does Bb-6 (and its modes) make a good V to Eb? To my ear this specific example doesn't work so well as the others. I hope my questions make sense, this is a tough media to form questions like this =)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Interesting point and question! I'd say I agree with you, but modifying that some bass motions are stronger than others. Db7(#11) is frequently used as a "backdoor ii-V" to Eb^. Bass movement by 5th/4th (Ab/Bb-Eb) is very strong! Bass movement by 3rd is much more rare and generally doesn't have very strong harmonic motion. But, I think overall, I'd agree with your assessment.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
@@protobard awesome, I love it!
@gustav1296
@gustav1296 Год назад
“Focus on color change” is an excellent Way to describe modal!
@DrRayOlayinka
@DrRayOlayinka Год назад
I'm hearing about Infant Eyes for the first time. Found the entire album on Spotify and was blown away. Please could you recommend similar type of music/artistes with great jazz piano chords. Thanks
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
It’s great, right? You might enjoy some of the Miles Davis albums from the 60s that also feature Herbie on piano like “Miles Smiles” and “Nefertiti.” Or check out Chick Corea’s album “Now he Sings, Now He Sobs.”
@DrRayOlayinka
@DrRayOlayinka Год назад
Thanks@@JeremySiskind will listen to them!
@JohnColerMusic
@JohnColerMusic Год назад
I dig the specs, Teach!!!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Thanks, John! The better to see you with! 😉
@user-ml6fj8um5q
@user-ml6fj8um5q Год назад
Great!
@pnojazz
@pnojazz Год назад
You are excellent! Where do I find the video on voicings that you mentioned?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
I think it's this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T5KJ_VxJ7S8.html
@gustav1296
@gustav1296 Год назад
Would love to hear your take on voicings also, like you mentioned. All the best!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Yes! I did make a video about three standard modal jazz voicings but will make something else when i formulate my thoughts more.
@gustav1296
@gustav1296 Год назад
@@JeremySiskind yeah ive seen it. Excellent stuff. Looking forward to the next one.
@nstrug
@nstrug 2 месяца назад
Interesting stuff. Where does this leave pop and rock music that almost always avoids V-I (or V-i) and uses LiV-I or bVII-I instead?
@ricardoarana8259
@ricardoarana8259 Год назад
this really reminds me of the method that ron miller teaches and from his books :)
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Cool! I’ve never heard of Ron Miller but I’ll look him up.
@mygodoh258
@mygodoh258 3 месяца назад
very good
@YoungMommy14
@YoungMommy14 11 месяцев назад
Wow! I'm going to have to save this video to be viewed at a later juncture. A 'juncture' when my comprehension of 'music theory' is far more profound than it is today AND when I'm not nearly as drunk as I am now (No Gaurantees on that term. The aforementioned is completely to be left up to the authors discretion). Either way, thank you (in advance). I think you have SOMETHING here worth watching. The vast majority of it however' sounds like 'Ancient Greek to me at present time.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 11 месяцев назад
Lol! I'm so glad you're drunk-watching my videos. They really shouldn't be watched sober. 😂
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 3 месяца назад
What about a chord ‘progression’ of Dm Em … no melody, no pedal point, no rhythmic/temporal/dynamic emphasis on either chord … would that be a Tonal, Modal or Atonal Chord ‘Progression’? (albeit, a very simple one ) … … … I thought even Modal Music needs to have a Tonal Centre (though it wouldn’t have functional harmony, like Tonal Music), such that purely Dm Em would be Atonal (ie wouldn’t even ‘qualify’ as Modal - and in any case, which one Mode would it be … ?! (again, without more context))
@sergiodeus3865
@sergiodeus3865 Год назад
l just watched another video about modal jazz and it says right at the beggining "modal jazz its characterizes for using modality instead of tonality" smh...
@BMarPiano
@BMarPiano Год назад
Wow - thanks!!!!❤❤❤
@BMarPiano
@BMarPiano Год назад
I stayed for the whole 20 minutes, so that should tell you something. Now, where can I find that follow up with the voicings? 😀
@QuantumIdeas
@QuantumIdeas Год назад
This is the best 251 exercise, indeed.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
You got it - thanks, Quantum Ideas!
@steelplayer811
@steelplayer811 Год назад
I'm thinking your idea of playing one scale over several chords will work in tonal jazz also.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Well, it works, but you want to emphasize the chord tones there. In modal jazz, that becomes much less important.
@MyMusicEducation
@MyMusicEducation Год назад
Good video.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Why thank you!
@yuq4798
@yuq4798 Год назад
Jeremy: “What is modal Jazz? 🤓” Me: “Yes. 🤓 “ Btw why are some comments so mean?😢you are such a great teacher!🥺🥺😤🤩
@damoon57
@damoon57 Год назад
A question ! How you ( or a jazz player ) organize his left and right hand parts ? ( since there is no left hand part on the sheet in jazz )
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Oh boy, I wrote a whole book about this called "Playing Solo Jazz Piano." Here's a video answer: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DlDwUMPY7Vc.html
@damoon57
@damoon57 Год назад
@@JeremySiskind thank you Jeremy.
@damoon57
@damoon57 Год назад
Hi Jeremy . Unrelated question . For using a four way close 6 chord , shall we always start the block chord with the third note of the chord ? Like if the chord is C6 we should play from the E ? ( E G A C ) ? Or its also possible to use the chord in root position ?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
@@damoon57 I'm sorry - I'm not really sure I understand this question. I don't totally understand the terminology "four-way 6"
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
@@damoon57 Maybe this video helps answer your question?
@ChristianBurrola
@ChristianBurrola 7 месяцев назад
I would argue all tonal music is modal. It makes frequent use of aolean and Ionian with lots of borrowing from each other (V7 in minor) as well as from Phrygian (Neapolitan chord) as well as combining modes to create synthetic scales (harmonic and melodic minor).
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 месяцев назад
I don't quite agree with you (for the reasons listed in the video). Tonal music uses modes, but that doesn't make it "modal'
@ChristianBurrola
@ChristianBurrola 6 месяцев назад
@@JeremySiskind I would argue that the differences between modal and tonal are quite arbitrary as they both use the same set of 0,1,3,5,6,8,10 to establish a tonal center. The similarities are far greater and more meaningful than the differences. And once you bring in modal interchange the differences practically don’t exist anymore.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 месяцев назад
@@ChristianBurrolawe might have to agree to disagree here, Christian. Although I’ll agree that the differences are not necessarily so great. However, for me, the inclusion or exclusion of a leading down to establish tonality makes a crucial difference.
@chazincaz
@chazincaz 8 месяцев назад
Fred Armisen teaches us how to paint music.
@chazincaz
@chazincaz 8 месяцев назад
All seriousness thanks for your knowledge and observations ! I come from more studio singer songwriter background and went to school for traditional theory / orchestration ! Electrical engineer now and miss it
@embrown23
@embrown23 2 месяца назад
I feel like jazz musicians are perhaps just 10x more intelligent than the rest of us
@sergiodeus3865
@sergiodeus3865 Год назад
well, l mean, if it doesnt use Modes then you shouldnt call it "Modal" then... Unless you want to get people conbfused on purpose... which would be kind of childish, to say the least
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
I mean, it does use modes, but everything uses modes in one way or another.
@sergiodeus3865
@sergiodeus3865 Год назад
@@JeremySiskind well yes, but if there are a predominance of modes avobe anything else thebn it should be defined as modal, as if you are using tonality over atonalism then the music is defined as "tonal".And the same goes for Atonalism That is how Music Language works.
@markop.1994
@markop.1994 2 месяца назад
Well its what people call it. Some of the greatest jazz records are modal. Also the lydian chromatic concept probably ties into why we call it this.
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 6 месяцев назад
Dude,,,,really? Why does it take you over 20 min to explain this? 👎seems like ur not a pro,and I'd never buy ur book cuz u talk too much and u wanna waste everyone's time, I cud have explained this concisely in less than 10 min
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for your feedback, Mike! I'm honored that you watched!
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 6 месяцев назад
@@JeremySiskind I didn't watch though, I stopped after about 6,7 min in when u started tracking off point,or maybe I fell asleep, but this isnt that good, I'm going to use it as an example to my students on what not to do and how to do concise tutorials
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind 6 месяцев назад
@@mikegeld1280dude, you’re my hero
@mikegeld1280
@mikegeld1280 6 месяцев назад
@@JeremySiskind ty I know right,I'm so smart and concise, I'll bet I know more about modal jazz than everyone, I cud probably show u a few things you didn't know about it,just let me know if you have questions 🤓
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