What Is Next After FOX's NASCAR Changes? 

I remember when it started. I was a kid, my dad got a whole tv channel of racing. Now it's all RU-vid except live races.

I started getting into the sport around the time that the Speed channel was beginning to shut down. I had no idea at first. I was also there for the final broadcast before switching to FS1.

It was my childhood throughout the 2000s. I started drifting away from it when it felt like they were greenlighting multiple NASCAR talk shows that all felt quite similar at the expense of other racing series and leaning a little too much into reality shows like PINKS and Wrecked that just weren't connecting with me. It didn't help that legitimately amazing auto shows like AutoWeek, Sports Car Revolution, and Fifth Gear were seemingly getting cancelled in favor of these reality shows. That being said, when SPEED got it right, man did they get it right! SPEED Report and Wind Tunnel were my Sunday night ritual. Their F1 coverage was marvelous, and I honestly prefer the Varsha, Matchett, and Hobbs trio to Croft and Brundle. Giving international championships like Supercars, DTM, BTCC, the European Le Mans Series American homes, and covering other championships with respect and enthusiasm like IMSA, Grand-Am, and World of Outlaws also helped, and Lucas Oil on the Edge was always a blast to watch. If the network were managed better and staffed by people who wanted to stay true to the mission of giving every part of the motorsports and transportation worlds equal coverage and representation, I think its demise could have absolutely been avoided. I know we have MAVTV, but very little of its programming is accessible outside live TV and it doesn't have quite the same identity and feel of Speedvision/SPEED. Hopefully someone in the future can pick up the pieces and pick up from where the former SPEED Channel left off with a new motorsports and automotive network.

@@kpegc windtunnel was fantastic

​@@biffisgreat That was the best motor sports show in the US period. Dave covered it all and had such great guest. Always liked when Robin Miller was on to discuss open wheel.

SPEED was truly peak for Motorsports fans. Miss it so much

@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Can we at least get a 2024 version of Speed channel

@@jordankirby3075 that would be beautiful

Fox from day #1 has not been good for Nascar. Remember when Fox would not show the sponsors ? 1st yr. Fox is behind all the gimmick races. Example ,Busch Clash now at LA. How dumb.

@@dannypowers4995 Can you give NASCAR a chance

I kind of felt like Spencer was forced to be a character where his normal character-self was enough as it was….otherwise completely agree. Steve had a way of being able to take any show format/duties asked of him and find a way to perfect the role and shine.

Jimmy Spencer’s crying towel! Remember it? That was awesome!

Wow that was golden Era Nascar!! My prime years of watching Nascar, wish I could go back!!

RPM 2 Night was one of many motorsports news highlight shows that used footage and insider analysis to cover all the world's motorsports developments in the '90s and 2000s. I've seen episodes of RPM, TNN Raceday, SPEED's news shows, and another more obscure show called On Pit Road and all of them are wonderful and worthwhile for their own reasons. They approached news coverage with enough variety to where I don't think they felt derivative or like copies of each other. RPM emphasized the most famous, household name series like F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, and NHRA. SPEED covered every professional American series and added coverage of the most high profile international series like WRC and MotoGP. TNN's shows emphasized the domestic championships but offered more coverage of oval and dirt track racing. And On Pit Road very heavily emphasized oval racing as a whole. That variety combined with the backing of a network alone made those shows great packages. I think those shows could have definitely succeeded even in today's digital age if networks were willing to invest in them, prioritize long term appeal over short term gains, and make them as accessible as possible by uploading them on a paid streaming service the day after they air on TV, and then on RU-vid the following week. They can still make good short term gains from appealing to die hard fans that love watching things live and being there in the moment. It would be a win win for everyone.

yeah i was wondering if having a fox-hosted podcast had something to do with this. newer, more popular format that probably reaches more people, but doesnt have the inherent variety or production that race hub did

They gotta pay Skip his ridiculous salary even tho Racehub drew higher ratings

Skip Bayless ought to be built in a North Korean prisonl

I hope they don't get IndyCar

FOX Entertainment got sued and paid out almost a billion dollars recently, of course they are cutting costs. They fired Tucker Carlson.

I'm always annoyed when I see "NFL Today" or whatever NFL morning show is on ESPN while it ignores the NHL being in the middle and back half of the season.

And it’s not even the nfl it’s a shitty fucking minor league version

Nascar shouldn't have decided to kill itself then

NASCAR killed the sport. Stupid playoffs and mandatory cautions. It’s been dying for 20 years. Just take a look at the “packed grandstands “.

NASCAR used to be worth watching. Not any more.

They sort of do with their various shows.

Exactly, other sports have their own dedicated streaming service, like NFL Network, id Nascar did something similar I'd sign up in a heartbeat

You just described cable.

No for Jamie McMurray. We need Cole Pearn as the third person.

Be neat to see Al Michaels try and call NASCAR.

@@ethanweeter2732 Al Michaels called a Winston Cup race from Michigan in 1979. He's also a few years older than Mike Joy... so, I think that ship has sailed.

Aside from a few races, xfinity has been better than cup in my eyes this year.

I've seen the current Race Hub episodes every now and then and think it's good for the most part. However, I am curious: If someone were to pick up the pieces and try again at making a weekly NASCAR magazine/highlight show, how do you think they could improve? I don't want to sound like I'm arguing with you, but I'd like to hear your ideas as someone relatively new to Race Hub.

This is tragic in that there will be no NASCAR news and highlights show on television. I have enjoyed hearing from insiders and seeing many of the other features and short films.

Yes they do I'll pay $199 a year for every race and practice and qualifying

Literally idk why they havent. Almost every sport has it.

Nah, there’s free content on RU-vid and even NASCAR Classics’ website. Plus you can watch races on piracy without paying a single penny

Apparently Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney for it's streaming services.

@@stevenrosenthal720and they could dump the entire NASCAR archives series there.

From what I gather, Radio Active is put together by NASCAR Media Group for Fox. B/C of that, It wouldn't shock me if NASCAR themselves start uploading Radioactive on their channel (even if it's not named Radioactive).

Sadly, that ship has sailed, as IMO if Fox wanted, they could've put him in the booth the last 2 seasons instead of doing the rotating analyst. However, Larry Mac has a relationship with Turner from the 2007-2014 package, and I can see a Larry Mac/Dale Jr booth being banger..

​@@ElFuego35plus now there's reports that Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney for a streaming package. So now it's highly likely that some Fox Sports people are also gonna be on TNT since TNT and Fox Sports will be in the same umbrella.

⁠from 2007-2014 Barry Landis (Fox producer) and many other FOX people were behind the scenes for the TNT Summer series

Larry Mac contract might get cancelled after race hub got canceled he either retire or head to TNT or Amazon like Jamie Mac

Not going to happen.

honestly, FloRacing, DirtVision, and Racing America are everything wrong with motorsports. They are harmful to their tracks and the services do not make the price worth it.

@@LOLRacing06 I honestly think that it's because of those services that the TV packages of certain series are impossible to access outside live TV. Like the management of ASA Stars, Lucas Oil Late Models, and World of Outlaws among others don't bother uploading the TV highlights of those championships anywhere (do you think they copyright claim anyone on RU-vid who does try to?) because they just assume everyone will pay for those services to watch the full event, when I think there are people out there that specifically want to watch the TV versions of the events. They think live streaming is all that people would subscribe to those services for, but for me personally, live streaming alone isn't enough to plop down money for yet another streaming service. I'd want the TV broadcasts and an archive of such shows from years past, personally. Then there's greed taking over with everyone wanting their own streaming service, frustrating those who liked having everything on one service and then realizing that if they want to see every kind of content they like, they'll have to pay more than they did for cable to subscribe to all the different services out there. Licensing and rights disputes also provide more of a headache with customers who may not opt for a new service at all because they have no confidence the content they like will even be accessible for long. Streaming is a very good thing, but too many companies are ruining it with greed and pride in my opinion. I think it's a bubble that's about to burst, but I hope the market corrects course before it's too late.

I think he does NASCAR because he genuinely likes doing it. He went away from a year in 2020 and 2021(aside from Daytona) but he came back to the broadcasts.

And with the potential Indycar on Fox bit, this WOULD NOT BE the 1st time they've been doing live coverage of Indycar... remember Phoenix, Pikes Peak and Dover in 1999? Those were on Fox Sports Net and Fox, respectively, back during the Pep Boys Indy Racing League days.

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Race hub and NASCAR on FOX as a whole started declining exponentially after Steve Byrnes’ death.

It stinks that racehub is getting cancelled

Been a fan since the first Race Hub in 2009 so I’m devastated

@@matthewdauenhauer6026 Now you might have to watch Wwe or something else that’s sports related

I don’t understand the whole point of Fox resigning then

Same he's annonying.

​@@runrafarunthebestintheworldI Agree.

You maybe on to something... With NASCAR opening that new Production Facility make me wonder if Fox and/or NBC was like "You get your rights increase, but you have to take over the production of the races/studio shows yourself".

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This is a big dream for me as a motorsports fan. All of the auto, motorcycle, and motorsports related programming that ever aired in the United States; from MAVTV, Motor Trend, SPEED, ESPN, TNN, CBS Sports, etc. all in one place. Maybe even with the original commercials, too. Perhaps the owners could negotiate deals to make the ads on the master recordings generate the same return as one on cable so subscribers don't have to deal with ads loading separately. For example, an old "Like a Rock" Chevy truck ad or Coca Cola Racing Family ad on an old NASCAR broadcast on this service would generate the same return as any current Coca Cola ad in circulation. The ad would be part of the video and not load separately like it does on other websites. I would be in heaven if this happened and would pay for it in a heartbeat.

Maybe they (or NASCAR) will continue to put it on RU-vid. It’d get a lot of clicks for very little effort. And it’s already being done so it wouldn’t take any changes.

I did not watch Race Hub, but I liked Katelyn and Shannon and Adam.

If we lose streaming to an EMP, then we have much bigger things to worry about than not being able to watch a race. And that's not even mentioning that an EMP would cut cable too 🙄

What is an EMP blast?

​@@BaronOBeefDipwhat is EMP?

Electro Magnetic Pulse

Nope it won't be since apparently Warner Brothers Discovery is teaming up with Disney this summer which means NASCAR won't be going anywhere.

No just watch dd12streams.

Prime VIdeo does not have the rights to F1.

Watch the AD Sports stream then.

It’s on cable

Thanks. I was hoping the app would carry it too. I did what iceberg was talking about and cut cable completely out. It wasn’t worth my money. BTW Bostonwarrior I’m from Boston MA.

Of course if your market has the CW over the air and can pick up the signal with your antenna. Either on the main channel or subchannel.

newsflash: MAV TV is no longer affiliated with NASCAR.

@@LOLRacing06 oh I had no idea

Hopefully they’ll just keep putting Radioactive on RU-vid. It’s already being done. And just b/c Race Hub is going away doesn’t mean the NASCAR on Fox brand is. Surely they’ll keep it going.

I don’t want Saudi NASCAR broadcasts. Want American NASCAR programming.

@@ethanweeter2732LOL it's the same international broadcast that you get on RU-vid replays. Don't get your politics addiction in a twist.

RU-vid has current races for all 3 series usually within 2 days of the live races!

what does the FOX say 😅

How about no?

If Amazon doesn’t get any crown jewel races or big races what incentive do they have?

@@gnnascarfan2410 why does a crown jewel race have to be an exclusive stream race only? Crown jewel races should be on big FOX and big NBC. There’s plenty of races that are unfortunately exclusive racing, crown jewel races shouldn’t be one of them because they’re big races, not just random normal races on Sunday’s. Plus pirating exists anyway. But still. Big popular crown jewel NASCAR races like the 600 should not be exclusively on streaming.

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I hate this streaming generation.

@@dcnascarboy0514 I rather have options to decide to watch it on TV or streaming and not forced to go to streaming. Overrated

The internet 🤯

@@DepravedCoTApologist where at exactly

@skippyg.1010 Just Google it and read one of the many articles about it that breaks it down, or find a RU-vid video about. It's that easy 🤦‍♂️

TNT is part of Turner Broadcasting, who are no strangers to motorsports news shows. You can find episodes of an amazing all motorsports news show here on RU-vid called Motorweek Illustrated. It was probably one of the first shows of this kind and covered every single form of racing you could think of on 2 and 4 wheels; even boat racing. This show was where legends like Dave Despain and Bob Varsha got started. The thought of Motorweek Illustrated or a similar show returning on TNT is a very exciting one. Hopefully Turner makes it happen.