Blue Eyes Ultimate also did see some play in Tenyi decks, thanks to being the biggest beatstick you could bring out with "Fists of the unrivaled Tenyi".
Or other decks that play fists, like pacifis. Actually, I could see komani at some point making a bunch of support for the vanilla blue-eyes, making fists playable in that varient of a blue-eyes deck.
@@Deathmare235 Yeah in duelist kingdom, if I remember rightly, you needed to take out each blue-eyes "head" individually. And in Battle City, since BEUD had three heads, it could wipe out all of yugi's monsters on the field at the same time with three simultaneous attacks.
We should get blue-eyes zombie dragon as a real card Blue-Eyes Zombie Dragon Blue-Eyes White Dragon + 1 Zombie Monster Zombie/Effect/Fusion Level 10 Dark Atk 3550 Def 2650 Must be fusion summoned cannot be summoned by other ways. Once per turn (quick effect), if your opponent activates a card effect you can negate it and destroy it, then, if this card was summoned using mammoth graveyard you can make this card gain 1000 attack times the number of normal monsters in your graveyard. During The End Phase, if this card is destroyed by a card effect this turn and is in the graveyard, return this card to the extra deck then summon the listed materials used for the fusion summon. You can only control 1 Blue-Eyes Zombie Dragon
@@pounderpolizzo7269 I don't think a quick effect negation is very fun, yugioh has too many of these, I would throw on a destruction effect that could hit 3 cards, and if one of the blue eyes was alternative then this effect could be used during either players turn, stuff like waking the dragon *could* be used but realistically that wouldn't give you the negation effect, so it wouldn't really be played so much like that, unlike with your version which is just a cheezy negation a combo deck could bring out, I'm trying to think of a way to bring something like that out with super poly and opponents zombies (or darks or something)
@@pounderpolizzo7269 I've always wanted a Blue-Eyes Wight Dragon and a Dead-Eyes Black Dragon. Just vanilla Zombie clones of the originals. Would be nice to see a Decaying Magician & Girl too.
I'd personally like to see more types of Blue-Eyes extra deck monsters. With how much support it's gotten, you'd think they would move past the Synchro monsters.
Blue eyes should get a new fusion monster to counter dragoon and use black luster solider. Also a fusion spell for blue eyes like how red eyes fusion does.
For A Blue Eyes Fusion. I Think It Be Better To Return The Blue Eyes From Field Or Grave To The Deck. Sending Them From Deck To Grave Could Be To Broken
Imagine fusing 3 strong vanilla monster and you only either get a beefy beatstick, a tower-beatstick that won't attack or a monster that only attacks when you have no other face up cards. Meanwhile you fuse two weaker vanilla and you get a Tower with OpT double crush burn, omninegate and atk boost.
@@BeeEmpress as a blue-eyes player, I agree. Blue-eyes doesn't need that. Mostly because that would be toxic just being able to get a big fusion monster like Ultimate Alternative. Maybe something in the main deck like a new low level monster or something. New support for one of the most popular old OG monsters isn't a bad thing but it does not need something like Red-eyes fusion because just no. Maybe an archetype specific link monster? I'd be open to anything besides another bricky level 8 monster lol
tbf in Duel Links twin burst is much more used than neo ultimate, since there is only one copy of alternative available and it's pretty hard to have more than 2 bewd in hand
With the right cards and synergy, you would be able to have more than one BEWD in the hand. Even my causal BE deck enables me to either gain more than one in my hand or Summon them to the field without much difficulty
what? ultimate dragons is literally built around having 2 bewd in hand and it's literally the best skill in a former t1 deck. twin burst is used more because neo beud is basically OTK cheese that if it works, you win but if it fails, you basically lose the duel from expending all your resources onto one card. twin burst breaks boards, neo beud OTKs. Board breaking is better when the OTK is about putting all your eggs in one basket
I know it's wrong but Blue Eyes Ultimate will always be my favorite. My nostalgia for it in the show & as a kid slamming down a nearly 5k attack point monster it cant be beaten. I know its arguably one of the worst but it doesnt mean it cant be my fav. :)
Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon is actually the best one. There’s a card called Fist of the Unrivaled Tenyi that lets you summon a non-effect fusion from your deck for free. I’m not sure if it still sees competitive play, but it did very recently. So it actually is the best one, just not in Blue Eyes decks
@@revenger8292 nah, Twin Burst being played in 2016 tournament decks is way better than being played in Tenyi which, uh, has never seen competitive play as far as I'm aware.
@@revenger8292 Alternative is far better even if you ignore TwinBurst being the easiest to summon. You can summon it via Waking the Dragons, or actually in Blue-Eyes using Abyss, which can also summon Neo BEUD if you are trying to score damage. That's better than a trap in Tenyi, an extremely unpopular deck, that probably doesn't actually use that trap very often. May favorite is the original BEUD, but it is definitely the worst utility-wise. It was made pretty mediocre back then because the games only had 2000 LP. It's like a Gaia the Dragon Champion but with a bit more ATK and requiring 3 of a kind which is significantly worse than just simply 3 monsters like Gate Guardian or XYZ Dragon Cannon or Valkyrion (assuming they were fusions), already worse than 2. In fact it is so bad people actually consider Shining an upgrade to BEUD. Shining is basically worse than Buster Blader, even if you ignore it's summoning conditions. The targeting protection wasn't useful until recent years when people stopped using S/T cards like Dark Hole, Torrential, and Mirror Force for removal (like Dragon Ruler format when they used Obelisk?) but has once again become useless with Exciton Knight, Utopia Lightning, and there are so many monsters since then that bypass targeting now or can just get rid of it.
Glad you listed Twin as being arguably the best, it is a very good card and unlike Neo you don't have to sacrifice fusions for it to attack more than once.
Many years back was playing Yu-Gi-Oh and my friend had a massive hard on for Seto Kaiba and anything Blue-Eyes related so a made his deck around it but he wasn't really great a deck building. Anyway I beat him a few times and then finally he gets to play Cyber Stein pays his 5000 lifepoints summons Blue-Eyes Ultimate goes to attack and I just use Magic Cylinder for game. He was so mad and I was trying my hardest not to laugh. And I will say I put a Magic Cylinder in my deck precisely for this moment and it was glorious
Twin burst has always been my go to blue eyes fusion outside of alternative with waking the dragon. the 3xbewd fusion rarely come up in competitive and even casual games. The typical super poly engine with twinburst is definitely better than all these 3material monsters with poly for completive match ups but for casual it's quite a fun otk with neo ultimate on the very rare chance you can get all 3 and poly out.
Unpopular opinion: I’m more of a Pendulum guy. Set scales, swarm field, _fuse_ . Bada-Blue Eyes. ...Link’s okay, too, though. Not a fan of XYZ, maybe because I was introduced to that, Link, and Pendulum at the same time. I don’t _get_ XYZ...
Also don't forget that the original Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon was brought out with Fist of the Unrivaled Tenyi. That card specifically said non effect monster, and it just happened to have the highest Atk at 4500.
You forgot the Mystical Beast of Serket + Temple of the Kings combo. Broken! Honestly, most people probebly don't even remember that it had that effect, I just remember it because i like the design of Serket..
I enjoy that meme strategy in Duel Links actually. Using Fortune Fairies + Wonder Wand and Reloads to quickly cycle through the deck for the pieces and get tribute fodder in the way of the fairies in the process. The biggest hurdle - outside of the gimmicky/memey nature of it in general - is the fact that while Temple of Kings is farmable like crazy we only have access through 1 copy of Serket, so it ends up being a 1 and done deck. It's very fun to do though. I usually go for Barbaroid personally.
They need a new blue eyes link monster maybe a link 2 monster that gives you some advantage and more consistency , they also need a new rank 8 boss monster something powerful like borrel end dragon or mekk- Knight crusadia avramax, cause blue eyes are heavily used to go for rank 8 Monsters , and finally they need a new retrain for the blue eyes white dragon something like after glow dragon , seriously the deck is all bricks , you open 5 cards and you can't play shit . Blue eyes deserves love , truly
Dragonmaid Changeover is another fusion spell that can help summon the different versions of ultimate dragon and it is a lot easier to get in the hand than Poly and Dragon’s mirror. Also my opinion the way Konami could help make it easier to get out Ultimate Dragon is a Blue eyes monster that can be treated a blue eyes white dragon while in the hand and field and can be treated as two copies of Blue eyes when used as a fusion material for Blue eyes, Neo, or alternative ultimate dragon.
Yeah Konami needs to find ways to make it easier for Blue-eyes fusion monsters. Like create Blue-eyes fusion spell card copying Red-eyes Fusion to send fusion materials from hand, field, or deck to the graveyard to special summon the Fusion monster instantly.
I know the feeling 9 times out 10 DSod kiaba is playing blue eyes and I m like done with blue eyes the kc cup b4 meldey of awaking dragon and the blue eyes synchro that sprit flots into where put to 1 blue eyes where everywhere I looked
@@zacthemastodonranger It also doesn't help that most of the pieces of the deck can be basically bought from a structure deck and the grind path is pretty easy relative to other decks.
I use a different build of Blue-Eyes seperate in playstyle fron the boring Ultimate Dragons build and it’s been a solid contender for me. Hardly ever lost to the Ultimate Dragons version due to me playing a much slower version of BE using Alternative Evolution. That and double Alternative pop into a Dragluon or Twin Burst is kinda busted for a combo
Pretty much the case for any long standing franchise. I'd be hard pressed to find a majority which likes someone like Necalli over Ryu in street fighter for example
Before watching here's my list TCG 1 twin. Easiest to bring out, some form of protection, and can get rid of annoying cards that can't be destroyed by battle 2 alternative. While hard to bring out since it "requires" main deck alternative it can destroy any 3 cards on feild and can't be destroyed by card effect 3 neo. Honestly only reason it beats og is cuz it has an effect. Positive it has a 1 time negate otherwise it's other effect can be a doesn't matter or a negative since you need 2 Blue-Eyes fusions in your extra deck for it to attack 3 times however you also can't have any other face up cards 3.5 if you count dragon master knight it's 4 otherwise consider it an honorable mention. Only reason it beats the og is cuz 1 you can technically bring it out with just 3 cards and it has a higher attack and an effect but otherwise it's just a worse dark paladin And in last place the og Blue-Eyes ultimate dragon. It's a 4500 beat stick that needs 3 Blue-Eyes white dragons to summon and that's it
And here I was expecting the Dual Logs to pop in during blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon to say it was a great target for the other effect of that unrivaled fists countertrap.
Dzeef: Twin burst is the more popular option for cyber stein Ah yes, the most popular option when stein was seeing the most use in 2004. You also seem to be forgetting the resurgence of Ultimate when the Fists of the Unrivaled Tenyi was released, making it the easiest to summon. Not that it is a good card, but the best way to make dragon master knight is with King of the Swamp and the plain ol' BLS (using the many searchers). If you wanted nothing else, the deck could be incredibly consistent.
To correct something from the video, Cyber-Stein actually got a reprint in Dark Beginning 2 before BEUD was even released in NA. People had access to the card without having to spend 6000 dollars.
I love the Alternative Ultimate Dragon a lot... So much more than some shit like Dragoon, but then I also just hate negation effects on extra deck monsters as they feel way too accessible. If Blue Eyes had an archetypical Dragons Mirror (so it would be searchable by stuff like Bingo Machine Go!) Would Alternative Ultimate even be a popular target for that fusion? I would say it would depend on setup, but I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to summon a fully powered Alternative Ultimate with a (searchable) miracle-dragon fusion... Even if it limited you to just summoning dragons for the rest of the turn or something, it would still be fun to use, even if it isn't competitive
I'm sorry, I never liked that card. It always had such little appeal to me. In fact I actually hate that card with a passion, it is a blight on mankind. Appearance-wise, it only has one head (WHERE ARE THE OTHER HEADS????) with no arms (looking like REDD, REDMD, NBEUD aka a Wyvern) and didn't even look anything like a Blue-Eyes. We trade a super badass triple-headed actual Blue-Eyes for something that looks worse than a Blue-Eyes Jet. Eclipse Wyvern looks more like a Blue-Eyes. Power-wise, inherently, it only has 4200 ATK unless you have a bunch of other Dragons [Kaiba ironically did not have many others, those being Hyozanryu, Different Dimension Dragon, Paladin of White Dragon and Rare Metal Dragon, even Kaiser Glider and Fang of Critias weren't used until Dartz and Pitch Dark Dragon after that (Thunder Dragons are Thunder and XYZ is machine) and the DSOD movie is years later.] It's even worse if using Dragon's Mirror, putting it at 3300 ATK, making it even worse than Gate Guardian or Ultimate Great Moth. It also has a mediocre effect that can't even save it from Mirror Force, Dark Hole, Raigeki, D.D. Warrior Lady, Wall of Illusion, Smashing Ground, Fissure, Hammer Shot, Grand Mole, etc basically the cards that count and plus it even made us wait several years to be able to play it since BEUD came out so late. It's not even a practical card either, you have to draw it in addition to having BEUD out. If you ONLY tributed a BEWD, it's basically as terrible as Metalzoa, Red-Eyes Black Metal Dragon, or Gate Guardian and Great Moths, probably worse since at least the first 2 can be summoned from the deck. But the problem isn't even comparable because this is BEUD we are talking about tributing. What's funny is that Yugi's Ace Dark Paladin is MUCH better! With 1 Dragon in the GYs it is already 3400, making it 100 points stronger, but the problem increases from there, for each dragon, Paladin will get an extra +200 ATK more than Shining, hell, even Buster Blader surpasses it once the opponent has 2 or more Dragons in their GY, and even Dragon Master Knight is better. PATHETIC. And USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS USELESS! Story-wise, it cheated Kaiba from a win in the movie, Paladin of White Dragon should have counted in GY as a Dragon, giving it an extra 300 ATK, enough to defeat Yugi. Kaiba couldn't even win the duel because he got interrupted and the dummy destroyed his own Shining. It being strong enough to beat the Gods made absolutely no sense whatsoever, all it would have is 200 more ATK than Obelisk, BEUD had 500 more ATK! Even if you used Megamorph to increase it's ATK, it only would double it's original ATK. And in no version would it survive ANY of the Gods, it would never have the power to survive infinite ATK and it can't even survive the TCG monster nuke of Obelisk, or Slifer's non-targeting second jaw either, maybe only Ra's small pop effect but nobody uses that when they'd just run it over. Oh wait, you probably weren't even serious. My fault. People do actually like this card for some reason, but for me it is the worst card in the game for making people think it is anything other than a joke.
Since you didn't cover it, in a more pure, casual Blue-Eyes Deck I'd say the Alternative Ultimate and Twin Burst are the best. Especially with the help of: >Keeper of Dragon Magic >Trade-In >Nebula Dragon >Starliege Seyfert >Chaos Dragon Levianeer In a casual setting, along with the other obvious key Blue-Eyes related cards it's pretty easy to end up with one or both on the board turn one. Neo, in my testing, never felt very good in comparison and straight destruction for spells and traps is often better than multiple attacks, especially when you also have the Twin Burst which default gets 2 and deals with bigger boys by banishing them.
On a similar note, Blue-eyes Chaos max seemed to have gotten a good bit of play, though I'll admit I've mostly played online which leads to mixed tcg/ocg formats that don't otherwise exist
I'd LOVE it if Konami released a red-eyes fusion for blue-eyes with SDK art background as the poly art. It's got to be nerfed compared to RE fusion for sure. Eg. only 1 material from deck. other 2 can be from hand/field. OncePerTurn, can't summon(can set) this turn. Then you only need to open 2blue-eyes, 1fusion spell for casual fun games and maybe some rouge experimentation.
The restriction to not summon is completely unnecessary because you're still using 3 cards to summon something, not 1. That's the whole point as to why REF had that restriction, because it was 1 card only to summon the Fusions. REF was never OP until Dragoon came out, and Blue-Eyes doesn't have any Fusions close to as useful as Dragoon even ignoring their summoning requirements.
@@Goblin_Hands Yeah true, you're not wrong. Although I was thinking about the design being more for the casual scene and thought that making alternative ultimate straight from deck with an alternative as material would be a bit much for a card in that case.
Blue eyes ultimate did see a bit of play in Tenyi builds since the counter trap cheeses out a non effect monster from the Extra deck when it gets destroyed
That's because BE player rarely go into Neo BE. It has no protection and only works in niche situation for an OTK. Out of 20 games I perhaps use Neo BE once.
Neo is hardly ever used due to you needing all 3 in your hand/field (with Alternative on the field as a replacement for one of them) and that rarely happens, and when it is there are usually safer options to go into. However, when it DOES get summoned then the BE player usually wins, as that's the equivalent of a 27000 beatstick (9000 x3) in the TCG with potential targeting protection if they get rid of it outside of Karma Cut.
@@Goblin_Hands DL has its lifepoints halved down to 4000 like the anime, so a 4500 atk monster in DL is effectively a 9000 atk monster in the tcg. It's the main reason they started halving vurn cards like lava golem; 1000 points of burn every turn requires the thing to sit in your opponent's field for multiple turns to do any significant chunks of damage, but in DL - that's a quarter of your LP for the cost of a single normal summon. But now that lava golem burns for 500 every turn in DL, it requires the same amount of turns to burn you to death as it does in the tcg.
Did you know that there's one other set of monsters that are specifically listed as fusion material for 3 different fusion monsters? It's Elemental HERO Avian and Elemental HERO Burstanatrix.
I think Twin Burst is quite fine. It's easy to summon and has a fair payoff. Sure, it would be better to go into Xyz perhaps with 2 BEWD. However BETB is still fine considering its cost to summon.
@@Dzeeff ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W-xJG9uWTcw.html here's a list playing both Fist and Ultimate in the Extra Deck. It made top 8 at New Zealand Regionals but I'm pretty sure most lists that did top regionals played Fist without Ultimate.
In terms of how much use I've gotten out of them, the original Ultimate Dragon reigns supreme. Not for Blue Eyes, but because it's the biggest body to summon off of Tenyi's counter trap.
after looking at the effects I think the best might be twin burst, but alternative ultimate seemed close. Except I imagine alternative ultimate never saw much play and if it's based on amount of play, I might guess it's og blue eyes ultimate since it has ways to be cheated out edit-called it on twin burst! I think they all look pretty cool but I think I like og ultimate the most for its art
number 1 twin burst number 2 blue eyes alternative ultimate dragon both are great twin burst is easy to bring out and can banish monsters and attack twice great for otks blue eyes alternative ultimate dragon perfect for a more grindy game and also if you need to remove tons of back row or monsters
if we go by in blue-eyes decks, tcg 1. twin burst 2. blue-eyes alternative ultimate 3. neo ultimate 4. ultimate 5 dragon master knight meta deck/ competitive tcg 1. ultimate (cus of that tenyi trap) 2. twin burst 3. blue-eyes alternative ultimate 4. neo ultimate 5 dragon master knight
Twin burst is probably the best, completely ignoring the effect, it's really easy to summon, and doesn't require a poly, which is better than pretty much every other Blue-Eyes fusion, which are usually complete trash to summon.
I really liked neo blue eyes ultimate dragon. Combined with its own effect and cards like return of the dragon lords and ultimate creature of destruction. It was an almost guaranteed OTK.
Shame this starts with only a few positives but the rest just drops into negatives due to how the modern game is. Ultimate Dragon for me was in a different setting as I was already aware of what cards the OCG had and that the TCG had to play catch-up for quite some time. Since I played the game more casually, friends and I were using Japanese cards along with English ones (cause that made sense) and just played the game as up to date as possible so the GX monsters weren't around at the time. Cards like Cyber Stein + Megamorph with Ultimate Dragon was more with the times. Gotta remember that Ultimate Dragon in the TCG came 2 years AFTER Shining Dragon (that required Ultimate Dragon to use) which was ridiculous with how slow we were getting cards.
id say twin burst is the best even without the video xD. and i dont think its a tie in duel links, i still think twin burst is the best there, it gives blue eyes an out to stuff like lunalight sabre dancer, which blue eyes has no other out to.
Best blue eyes card overall... (as much as I hate to admit it) Blue Eyes Chaos Maxx. I hate that thing. Twin burst usually is the second go-to for blue eyes.
Would be kinda cool. Maybe a link version of it. Like it takes a light dragon fusion monster or a level 12 fusion monster to go into it and it gains the attack buff and maybe a once per turn counter effect. Maybe something like protection or another effect. Idk, I'm bad at making non-overpowered cards 🤣
No. It would be overpowered due it's protection. Cards like Invoked Cocytus already had to be banned for that reason and BE Chaos Max had to stay in a shit skill. Even Lunalight cards at best give one beefy boss monster that only protects against targeting, and that is already strong.
Ultimate Dragon also comes up in Tenyi decks. When they pop ur countertrap, u activate its GY effect to special summon a normal monster from the Extra deck
I would have to differ on difficulty to summon the deck has blue eyes spam but its missing protection really maybe just one monster that can't be targeted or destroyed would help
