@@sippingmud i could be completely wrong, but i think the last time they collabed Cheetah still normal clicked. I like to think that one day, Cheetah just mentioned he butterflies now and marcel just went ".... we're not friends anymore" and just left the call
I agree with you. Personally i wrist jitter but i have tried single clicking butterfly and it is pretty nice. I could get higher cps if i didnt had a razer viper mine because it is nog the best shape for butterfly. I really love that you are uploading and streaming again because you are always fun to watch. Have a good one man❤
The video was like a painting to my eyes, a bird's chirping to my ears, a dessert to my tongue, and "Lavender" to my nose. lmao sorry for the poem, but i might start playing mc again after this video. thx cheetahh!
@@Cheetahhh yeah. The other guy put up a rlly good fight! I get anxiety whenever I get near another player so i bet I’d last about two seconds against you unlike the other guy… seriously Watching you play is mind boggling. You absolutely demolish players who I can only dream of beating myself.
I've heard noone talk about no doubleclick butterfly, but now I feel good about what I've been doing with my life for the past 4 years, and I'm glad I haven't spen 120 bucks on 2 model o's lol
I know it be a lot of work, but could you demonstrate maybe in the future vid each one of them . Also, love the video, you explained it very well. Very thought out.
I've been pretty much growing my skill by jitter clicking 17 consistently since 2019 and I can say that the longer you jitter, the more endurance you have. There will obviously be some times where your arm becomes fatigued, therefore I would only jitter when I'm feeling competetive, because butterflying is so much more versatile and sufficient, It's also way easier to master, but in my opinion, I perform better when jittering.
i believe dragclicking especially for pvp is not completely useless it is rather more extremely difficult and the decision to become good at long dragging and aiming while dragclicking is totally subjective. Though there are some pros for dragclicking in comparison to butterflyclicking (with double clicks) for one or maybe the most important would be that it has the potential to cover more ticks and by that send more reliable hit packages it also allows for true zero redrucing. on the aspect of consistancy in fights where the enemy also doesnt move (lets as an example say a butterflyclicker with 20+ cps) it is not that difficult to reset your drags fast enough to avoid missing trades due to the default hit delay in 1.8 (example mlg rush players) and even here it is possible to eather long drag or "short" drag (in this case with short drag I mean still clawgripping your mouse and not resting your hand on it as it is used for godbridging). the limitation that makes this unviable sadly is that you get kicked or banned on most popular pvp servers due to your average cps being above 30 most of the time.
used to butterfly click but when I got a razer mouse I learned how to finger jitter because it not only gave me a fairly consistent cps but it also made it SO much easier to aim than jittering w arm it took a while to learn how to tense up the muscle to literally vibrate my finger tho
Lit vid I would like to clear somethings up, as for drag clicking with your left, it is very possible and people can do it without getting kicked or banned or getting a lot of reg, it is just extremely difficult to do and only the top players in specific game modes use it. It has been most optimized in sumo as sumo is simply raw pvp so there isn’t much else about it to worry about which is why the fine details of how you play like mid trading or double tick hit selects matter so much. If servers like hypixel wouldn’t give you hitreg for higher cps in short bursts it would be used by many more players since you don’t need to spam left click to pvp as a lot of people think you do. It’s actually hurting your pvp by doing so. You can short drag, and while the hit and cool down for your next hit is going you have time to move your hand back and drag again. So drag clicking could be viable in many situations if used correctly. Hope that clears it up a little cuz my friend told me to make this comment when he saw the vid 😁
What is a good non-razer mouse for butterfly clicking without doubleclicking? I've wanted to do it for a while, and even though I have a Model O, reducing the debounce isn't the same as it just ends up cancelling clicks that should've worked.
I totally know what you mean, but that doesn't change from mouse to mouse. I'd honestly just recommend continuing to use the model O. To double click, you use the pads of your fingers and kinda bounce every click to get another one. If instead you use your fingertips on the buttons, usually double clicks don't go through. That's the technique I use, and I can use any double clicking mouse with it and I only get one click per finger. W question. If you're insistent on getting a new mouse, I'd prolly recommend a gpro or a hati, although my experience is limited cus I'm not too much of a mouse guy. Happy clicking
@@Cheetahhh Thanks for responding, I appreciate it :) My Model O is kinda old so it doubleclicks anyways, but I still get more control using my fingertips.
hand jittering has left some weird pain in my hands so be aware most of the ppl dont complain about that but iv jittered for 2 years and when working out i started feeling sharp pain in my wrists
as someone who has been butterflyong without double clicks my whole life, i can say that the cps you would usually get is around 11-15 which comes down to how much training you have in it. the issue is if you queue someone who doubleclicks then they have a slight advantage if both people know wtf they're doing, so lesrn to hitselect people cuz doubleclickers suck balls 🙏
i am one of the people who main no double click butterfly, and i am one of the people who can peak at 19 with butterflying with no double clicks, i'm a piano player and i've been doing it for 2 years so I can average about 15-17 cps. i'd also highly recommend this method as its super fun and very precise as you've suggested. i know that you, cheetahh, as well as no one will ever probably see this but if anyone does, I can help with learning how to do it wicked quickly and consistently, just reply to me ig.
@@Outcastic id say that the main focus is to just practise on a trackpad or a wide surface first- your first objective should be to get the speed right with your fingers. theres no trick way to do this, you simply have to consistently move your fingers like youre butterflying on a mouse on a regular basis. after you've got the speed you want, make sure its even possible to get that high, (any roccat mouse should suffice) then keep shortening the distance between your fingers until they can fit on the mouse you want them to. i hope this helps
@@onionknight7995 it does help, since this comment I've practiced butterfly a little and get closer to 9-12 cps, although its still a little tricky to aim with. I'm just focusing on getting the rhythm down first and then I'll worry about double clicks, I have a roccat kone pro
I have hit 21 with no double click butterfly and can definitely agree its the best clicking method in existence at least for hypixel cus you actually get hitreg most of the time
drag clicking is super underrated imo. for me it came easily and I can one finger drag up to ~30 cps in pvp, you just have to time it properly. i also got to a level of precision where i could click any number from 1-10 times much faster than with any other method with like 98% accuracy
I do not know what is happening to me but now the joint of my forearm and backarm hurts when ever i jitter click, put pressure on it, or even lifting my head while the joint is facing and holding on the table! This had happen before i even start to jitter click, but it usally gets away after around a couple days. But now, this pain has been going for months and i have no idea of what should i do except taking a bunch of rest during gameplay. (i tried to not jitter click for a week and the pain was reduced by like a half, does that mean the only thing i need to do is to take more rest or drink water? ) What i think is happening is that i am putting too much pressure on the joint when jitter clicking since i use my whole arm to jitter for the high cps. (i tried to use other parts of my arm to jitter or putting more pressure on but it didnt work well. ) So i just kinda wanna know what could have been the cause of this and how to fix this? If any of you has like a advice or so, pls reply and thx so much.
the only downside of butterfly is the noise it makes lmao, for yall who lives with yo familly still and you play while they sleep, be careful with that, id recommend either normal or jitter clicking in that situation
Im just wondering how to train cps cuz ive played bw and bridge for about 2-3 years and i only imoroved my dubble click butter fly from 13-15 to like 14-17 ish but now i dont dubbleclick anymore and im pretty accurate 9-10 but im not improving much (too be fair ive only done no dubble click butterfly for like 5 months)
Ive been arm jittering for like a year now, I get like consistent 16-17 cps without going down. So if ur broke and cant get a mouse that double clicks try this for high cps
Ok, I dont even know where to start this, first off I dont have a double clicking mouse, I JITTER 18 cps consistently and I've even hit 19 and 20 but I use this method only in sumo for max cps or while jitter bridging. I mainly butterfly without double clicks and when I'm warmed up I get 14-16 cps, it's easy to aim with and place controlled amounts of blocks. When I've been playing bw for an hour and I'm warmed up I switch to normal clicking cuz I get 8-10 cps and my aim is the best. I think I've gotten the most out of my logitech g102 and I was about to buy the bloody a60 but after watching your video I think I've changed my mind
I don't think I'll ever understand how people think butterfly is easier to aim with than jitter. Maybe I'm just used to jitter, but i cannot aim at all with butterfly, and the second i try aiming my cps drops from 10-13 to 7
