As an amatuer hunter from South Africa - for myself - I consider the following as my idea on hunting ranges (and ethical hunting behaviour) : 100 meters = Home 200 meters = A good distance, nice shot well done! 300 meters = let's try and get closer
Excellent review! I live and hunt in Alaska. For 30 years I reloaded Nozler partitions, and for the past decade I've reloaded TTSX exclusively for hunting. Never had a problem....130 gr TTSX in .270 for Sitka blacktails, Dall sheep, black bear, caribou. 180 gr TTSX for moose and grizzly bears. I like the big exit holes TTSX typically creates, especially for blood tracking bears. I usually reload and shoot about 10-20 TTSX each week...at $30 per box of 50 the price is not bad either. I am not a long-range hunter, almost all my kills have been less than 200 yards...
Great comment. I switched to monolithics about 10 years ago. Killed cow/calf elk, doe/buck pronghorn, pigs, and buck mule deer with them, probably approaching 30 animals at this point, from about 15 yards at nearest and 325 yards at farthest, with most under 200. I’ve killed with 5.56 70g TSX, 270win 130g TTSX and 150g TSX, 30-06 150g GMX, and 270wsm 140g TSX. My only failures have been operator error, with only very limited blood trailing required. I take only heart/lung shots and most times the animals don’t know they’ve been hit and am able to watch them fall. I have other monolithics in 308, 6.5 CM, and 30-06 that I’m anxious to try on game.
After Barnes tried to blow up not one but two of my rifles (10 grains too much powder in their reloading manual) you can't pay me to use their products!
I second this. 180 grain TTSX in 300 win mag doesn't over expand close and it penetrates well in heavy game to 500yds based on my experience taking deer, elk, moose, and grizz over the last 5 years.
Long range hunting is over-rated. Stalking and hunting skills to get within appropriate shooting range is under-rated. Anyone can take pot shots at game out at 600-800 yards. It takes a skilled and patient hunter to get within 150-200 yards or closer.
My take away was velocity matters and I appreciated your remark about "sensible hunting distances". All of my rifles have the potential to be lethal at great distances, however, I like the challenge of actually hunting. Your comments about the meat yield and having shrapnel in your dinner cracked me up. Everybody who hunts should watch this video because you really packed a bunch of good, usable advice in it! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience! Great video!
@@mausermongerkoziczkowski8104 The 165 hor sst at 3275 fps on a chrono in my 300wsm is very,very accurate and the moose at lon range,deer coyote big bear and others animals drop down in her track,it,s very impressive,check the video on Hornady sst at short range and long range.
@@ForestxWalker06 Hi, I like the E-tips and when Nosler had a sale I bought a bunch for my .223 rem. I like all Nosler products. Some shooters keep floating form every new manufacturer to the next, get excited about magazine writeups, etc.. I have stuck to Nosler for all my hunting and I have done OK. When I was shooting foxes professionally for their skin, I used a Sierra 40 gr SP in the .22 Hornet, had least amount of pelt damage and my buyer always paid me top price. In my .444 I reloaded with 240 gr Sierra! I'm not stuck on Nosler, as I choose what is best for the game, the rifle and the application I have in mind. In my Sako .223, .270 and .308 I always stuck by Nosler Partition for hunting game!
@@BlueTJay I looked at the Nosler E-tips last night and they’re lead free which I like and thought they would be a good viable option for taking big game like a mule deer or bull elk.weight retention is another big thing for me,when I think about the game I want to hunt I’m hunting to put food on the table so I want to save as much meat as possible
The factory loaded Nosler Partition .30-30 ammo turned my mediocre deer rifle into a great deer and bear killer. Love the accuracy and penetration they give
@Foreign Powers well I’m not set up to hand load yet but even if I was I would be hard pressed to find a better bullet for my needs thanks the 170 grain Partition
Good video. Too many bullet are to attract the customers not effectively kill animals. Partetions, core lokts and Hot Cores get it done! I like your comments about stalking within 300 yards to get a shot. That’s what hunting is about to me.
I tell people to match the bullet to the game and the expected range.My friend went to Africa and talked to the PH before departure. PH told him average range 90 yds. He was after Kudu plus other plains game. Took his Ruger .458 Lott and Speer 350 Mag Tip. One shot kills on all game and he showed me a couple of perfect mushrooms. Everything you pointed out in your video is true. Shooting long range at varments and targets is fine but I draw the line on big game. Leave the 1000 yds at range targets. I have a nice collection of Noslers and Core Loks over the years. I truly have a high opinion of Barnes. Haven't found one in a animal yet. They penetrate deep and open up like a broad head. Thanks
I shot a huge Golden Wildebeest 4 days ago. Carcass weight was 290lbs. I used my 30-06 with 165gr Accubonds at 2850fps at the muzzle. I shot it just behind the shoulder at 270m. The animal ran about 30m and died. Wildebeest are know as the poor man's buffalo because they are so tough. I found the Accubond just below the shoulder on the opposite side. Weight retention was 129gr. I will hunt anything in South Africa except the big 5 with the above mentioned combination. I will never use Berger bullets on game again, poor penetration and massive meat damage. Great channel and analisys!
Berger vld's are junk! Better suited for target than hunting. I made a 85yd frontal shot on a whitetail buck with a .257 Wby and the deer ran to the next county before I cought up and killed it with a broadside shot through the lungs. The Barnes TTSX 100gr has remedied chasing critters into the next time zone!
Thank you for your real-world knowledge. I used to live in Alaska 7 years in the 90s and did lots of hunting. I was a die-hard nosler partition hunter mostly because that was the go to bullet in Alaska at the time. I have heard good things about Barnes and Swift. I don't really get to caught up in BC because I hunt with aperture sights inside 300 yards so not really necessary for me. Sounds like my go to partition nosler is still great. I plan to be back in the field this fall and Africa in the next few years. Thanks
You are absolutely correct about hunting at ethical distance. I am just starting to compete in precision rifle, but have been a rifle and bow hunter for decades. Everyone talks about their 600+ yard kills but I always try to get closer. I'm more proud of my 7 yard mule deer kills with a bow than if I took a 1000 yard shot with my rifle, just saying. More skill on my hunting with being up close. Enjoy your videos.
Yep, when people attempt to brag to me about their 600 yard kills, I simply respond "if you need somebody to take you out and show you how to stalk and hunt deer so you can get close enough for an ethical shot, I'll be happy to teach you. My grandfather taught me how to get within 200 yards of any deer when I was 14".
I agree about high velocity and Barnes bullets. They NEED velocity to perform as intended. They'll still kill at slower speeds, but with pencil type holes and not much shock. I recently witnessed my buddy shoot a whitetail with a 308, 130 grain TTSX (at 3100 fps I might add) knock a deer over dead in its tracks at 100 yards. It was a high shoulder shot that shocked the spine and clipped the top of the lungs. It had as little meat damage as any deer I've skinned in several years. I'm already a Barnes guy, but this just made me realize how little bc and sectional density matter inside 300 yards with these. Select light for caliber bullets and push them well above 3000 fps and watch them fall in the scope without putting lead fragments in your meat.
Another great video. I would guess that because of cost factor the Remington Core-Lokt has killed as much or more small game in North America as any other bullet. Their factory ammo worked fine for me. I like Hornady Interlock and Nosler Partition as well. I had some Interlock come with a press I purchased and they work great.
Glock2201 Yup We used to buy Rem corelokts by the bag in bulk. My favourite was the 165 gr. Accurate reliable. Very reasonable in price Nothing glamorous or sexy about it just Works. I don’t give a shit about ballistic co efficients and plastic tips. I don’t shoot at ridiculous long ranges. I get pissed when l hear guys bragging about their “800 yd kills” 300 yds is a long ways🇨🇦🤠
Great video. im a big fan of the Nosler Partition myself. Lately though, I have been using the Accubond Long Range. It seems to give great performance. We have not recovered one or lost an animal yet. They also seem to be much more handloader friendly and less finiky than the standard Accubond. But you can NEVER go wrong with a Partition!
Accuracy is a market gimmic. MOA is a joke- who's shooting the left ventricle instead of the right ventricle? One inch on a deer at 100yds is zero difference.
I've killed a good number of deer over the years-302 to be exact,and for open country deer and/or antelope,it's hard to beat the Berger Classic Hunter bullet.VLD's aren't as reliable and they are harder to get to shoot well without jamming them into the lands.The Classic Hunter has performed great for me in the 308,with a spotless record from 100 to 500 yards.I just finished building a 280 Ackley Improved that I'll do most of my hunting with this year and I'll be using 168 grain Classic Hunters.If the game was elk,I'd probably use the old stand by Partition,but for deer,the Bergers are great bullets,especially beyond 250 yards.Whatever they do with their bullets is fine with me.I like DRT,no tracking,especially at longer ranges.
This is a great presentation! I enjoy your content. You are the needle in the haystack! I find gems, like your channel, on occasion. Sifting amongst the wreckage of youtube hacks!
great video. give me the partition most of the time, and the monolithic where legally required--that is , if i could still hunt. old age and "shot' shooting eye makes me an armchair adventurer now. thanks for clueing everyone in--there is a lot to think about and practice before getting out there...
A Nosler partition or Corelokt style bullet is going to take care of 99.9 percent of game in whitetail country on the east coast. Nosler partition's are great for black bear, hogs and if you get lucky to draw an elk tag through the lottery system. Most your shots are within 80 yards with the rare and occasional field shot out to 300+ yards or so.
There is a big difference between Nosler partition and the corelokt. The partition is a bonded bullet made to retain a high percentage of mass for deep penetration. Corelokt are designed to fragment and will have a difficult time to break through a shoulder.
Great comment about shooting gel blocks. How many times I have watched someone and they "test" their bullets by firing from 10-20 yards. Yeah, everything cartridge looks impressive at muzzle velocity. Not many shoot a block at 100 yards and it's almost impossible to see someone hitting a gel block at 200. I would imagine they cannot hit a gel block at that range maybe that's why. They sure don't mind taking shots at deer even further though.........
Great video. I agree with all of your points, and I'm frustrated with the bullet manufacturers attempts to sell nothing but boat tail target bullets to hunters. I've been using Hornady Interlock bullets in my 308 and 30-06 for years with no complaints or problems. I use either the 180 grain round nose or the 165 spire point (never boat tail). The 165 spire point is by far the most accurate bullet out of my 308. These work great at the woods ranges I hunt, perfect expansion and penetration. I've also used Remington Corelokt before i reloaded. Too bad Remington wont sell them as components. The 180 round nose is about as reliable as you can get for close range deer, bear and moose with 308/30-06. Keep up the great work. New subscriber here!
Thanks for providing the best video on hunting ammo I have seen to date. I plan to hunt wild boar with my WIN 308 rifle, and struggle with ammo selection. I aim for 65 - 70 pound game (good meat) on 50 - 150 yards. For some reason all my hunting friends are excellent shots, e.g. army medals, police instructors etc., and I am no more than average. Hence, they systematically hit the pig brain, and any controlled expanding or deep penetrating hunting ammo does the job (fragmenting is illegal for hunting here). I will have to shoot it in the lungs, heart or spine, to be able to hit it. I believe deep penetrating ammo would be adequate for me, e.g. Barnes SSTX or Hornady GMX. Could you please advice? Thank you.
The Orynx is a great bullet indeed. Unfortunately, they don't have a great selection of weights (unless you shoot 9.3); and Norma bullets are hard to get in the states and usually more expensive than Nosler or Barnes bullets. Probably why you don't see them used much in North America. But they are great bullets.
Great video sir i appreciate you always telling it like it is. I work on a sport fishing boat and quite often see anglers come out with there custom wrapped rods high dollar reels roughly a $1,000 setup and skimp on a 5 cent hook only to lose the fish and I can’t help but wonder WHY??
Edlx should be in group one. And any seasoned hunter. Knows that group 1 rounds are shit for hunting. Nosler partitions 100% kill quick. Fragmentation rounds are unreliable and tend to wound rather then kill ,they are for targets. Bc isnt the top factor. It's about how much energy the round has at longer range.
Nosler Partitions ARE fragmentable bullets. I have never understood why people would use them, unless they liked the ads the company has paid for in magazines. If people do not want "metal in their meat on the dinner table", then they should switch from the N.P. to a Barnes-X bullet or the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet.
@@gusloader581 lol no they are not. Going by YOUR logic. All bullets are then. The NP is designed to retain as much weight as possible, I.E. the partition. It does have some fragmentation. But to be technical. All bullets do. No bullet retains 100% of its weight.
I have no need for all those "New" designed bullets. Anything with a filler in the tip is nothing but a hollow point. I still laugh at people (Especially writers) that say a 30-30 would be just awesome if you could shoot pointed bullets in it. There were rifles chambered in 30-30 years ago that you could use pointed bullets in. The problem was none of the pointed bullets available would expand @ 30-30 velocities. Good old Remington Corlokt works for me. I load my 7.62x39 with Remington 150 gr 30-30 bullets at max load. Never failed me yet. I reload everything with them when they are available. There is probably 75 years of bullet design and millions spent on it to back them up. I have heard so many sad stories involving "Premium" bullets that I just don't need to throw the extra money out for them.
WE need to peach the "One third second rule" to all hunters. Admittedly, I have violated it. My longest shot to date was 510 yards on a Whitetail, but only one LOL. For those who do not know what it is, it is very simple. Regardless of the rifle caliber or ammunition one is huntig with, keep you shots to a distance that it takes the bullet one third (1/3) of a second to arrive at it's intended target. That works out to about 300 yards for most ALL hunting calibers to no more than 400 yards for the hottest magnums. Its a GREAT rule to HUNT by! Lets face it, paper and steel targets do not move, animals do. There is way to much that can go wrong on a long shot and we owe the animal a quick humane kill.
As a western game hunter, nosler is king. Love the accubond lr is my 18 inch ar10 and the partitions in my 30-06. 1 inch groups and probably could be better if a better shooter was shooting my rifle
You seem to go on stints of quietness where you dont upload... stop that, you got some of the best no BS, straight to the point information on RU-vid regarding hunting, and appropriate hunting gear... In a world of .243 Winchester's, w.e ou my friend are a .300 Win mag... dont ever change
Viewer from Northern British Columbia: I haven't been hunting near as long as someone such as yourself, or even shot the variety of animals you have, but do have some real world experience in the field. I've tried a few of these new hunting bullets being marketed by Nosler and Hornady, and I have always come back to the Nosler Partition. Your video was spot on, and I quite enjoy your info vids on all things to do with African hunting. I hope to go over there one day. For now I'll keep chasing Canadian Bears, Moose and Elk. Awesome videos man, cheers.
Tevin March yeah we have some good size. I heard that the moose are down in numbers in northern B.C. because of the wolves. Especially around the Telkwa area. After the burns from the last year the moose population will grow in that area I’m suspecting.
This year was my 40th deer season with a 180 Partition from my Rem 700 in 30-06. Even with my decreasing eyesight I am comfortable out to 400 yards. They have not failed me yet.
@@panthermartin7784 I hunt deer and elk at the same time. We have bear and mountain lion in the same area. Use what you want, I don't care. If I am hunting deer only I will go with a 150.
I'm a Nosler fan. If I could only have 1 bullet for all my hunting needs it would be Partition. I also like Federal Edge TLR. 165g Partition and 175g Edge TLR will always be my go too bullets
So I guess people using the fragile fragmenting bullets don’t care for lost of meat, and that sucks cause that is what the anti wants to see people that kill just to kill!!
This has to be the best video I have seen in a long time...Very informative. I have been sucked in with these fragmenting bullets..Berger...ELDX..Very Accurate. Shot a cow elk at 450 yds with my 7mm 162 gr ELDX...Dropped in its tracks..Never shot anything really at close range to see the results of under penetration..This year I am going to use my Marlin SBL in the Trapper in timber Going to use the Barnes 400 gr Original..Hope it works well for me...Thanks for a great Video.
Been using the Barnes bullets for years with no problems. I dropped down in bullet weights like there manual said to do. 165 gr out of my 300win mag and 150gr out of 06 . Both shoot excellent .
Great video i think velocity when using cup and core bullets is crucial on thin skin game staying below 3000 fps is a must. In the woods esp. I love the round nose bullets. Old school but at med velocitys are medicine on whitetails here in sc. The 220 grain inter lock at 2350 to 2400 in 30 06 is great without alot of meat damage. Hammer of thor. 180 grain 30 06 partition is my choice for all around hunting in almost any enviroment. I like how u stand against the long range unethical hunting with target grade ammo. Hunting at point blank range is the max i believe in. Learning to hunt and track animals qhould be taught more in hunter education class. I wish u would make some bear hunting caliber videos and some 45 70 reloading videos what a caliber its mean in the south eastern deer woods brother.
Every yard between you and the deer means less of a chance to take it down. Just because I can hit paper at 500 or 1,000 yards does not mean that I can hunt ethically beyond 200 yards! Granted, there are some bullets that will work a little farther, but I don't to ever wound a deer and have it die in agony because I could not find it!
Fantastic video, I’ve watched this several times over the last number of months. No agenda or marketing, just honest opinion and information. I’ve moved to monolithic bullets recently and couldn’t be happier with them. Great channel, one of my favourites.
Nosler Partion does the job. Had my 280 sighted for +.5 at 200 and -.5 at 300. Killed a bear at 20 yds this weekend after I brushed his nose with my forearm. Unmatched performance!!
Thanks for the vid, really appreciated the comments and opinions. I've found almost everything you said to be true and accurate. Wonder what it is about that Accubond. I had a really hard time finding a good load for it as well. Subbed!
Opinions on Speer Grand Slam or Hot-Cor bullets? Have used the core-lokt for decades. Still works. They both seem to work for me, but I don't shoot hyper-velocity rounds, for the reason you mentioned-destroys too much meat.
Great video. One that I will watch over and over again. Loved what you said about using your hunting skills to get closer to an animal. Long range hunting needs to be outlawed. It isn’t ethical or humane. I don’t think it is a part of fair chase. I admire someone who can shoot 1000 yards, I can’t. But I also believe that it aught to be done on targets not animals. It doesn’t show too much respect for the animals.
Very much enjoyed your video. And am in agreement I had placed a lot hope in the eld x and m by reading Nathan Fosters books. Now I pull toward the terminal acsent and bond strike, along with, still, toward Partions n Accubond. I'd like to try the HAWK bullets. I hear they hold together well. I was also hoping these new copper bullets with shedding tips, causing satilite projectiles with the remaining core punching on through would be the new partion, but it don't sound like it. If I do use M or X bullets, i want them very heavy for not only caliber but cartridge too.
i have been hunting in the rocky mountains since 1978 i was educated to use nosler part,aac i use a 7mag 300 remhunting ,the game is getting as close as you canenjoyedthe video,thanks
Really good video. 38 now, started to learn at about 6. tested a lot but one that is always in my various ammo is the partition. world class in every way in all calibers ive had or have. the tsx is close after but a bit in front on some hunts. mainly using hornadys bullets because im a reseller of them but for those hunts when I need the little extra.. Nosler Partition all the way.
My old go to for penetration and expansion was partition. I came across Lapua Mega because I am a 6.5 fan and never looked back. Load in 6.5, 308 and 3006. Awesome stuff there
I like your take on these subjects. This is a great video for those somewhat new to hunting and are sometimes overwhelmed by all the cartridge choices when buying ammo. Or those that might have grown up with common cup and core bullets and haven't kept up with bullet design and technology. A cartridge I think deserves a mention as a good "all around" hunting cartridge is the Federal Fusion. I'm not sure how they do for magnum calibers but in the middle ground cartridges such as 308 win or 270 (or similar type of rounds), they are very versatile. They expand consistently over a wide range of distances and hold together well.
Great video, I really enjoy your channel. I never got into reloading, so I've only ever used the Remington Core-Lokt soft points for whitetails. In both 170 gr. 30-30 and 130 gr. 270, all the deer were knocked right down and died. They were all taken in thick cover (but clear shooting lanes) from 15 to 40 yards max. I'm of course not sure how they'd perform at longer ranges, but I never saw the need to experiment with anything else.
@@jessemccarthy05 Oh man, I used to love to bow hunt! Some of my fondest memories afield. I always hunted from the ground too. I wound up developing a bad shooting habit that I just could not break and had to give it up. Happy hunting to you. Be safe out there.
Barnes makes a heck of a bullet. But honestly if you find an accurate round for your gun, that's what matters. I had one gun that loved winchester ballistic silvetips and nothing else so that's what I fed it.
Converted in the mid 80's. Only bullet that has grabbed my attention for this application since has been Barnes. Going to give Barnes a try in 22-250, now that I've exhaust my 60 grain partitions. 75 year reign is damn impressive. Not the best bullet to learn how to track. 😂
Subscribed. I like your common sense takeaways. There was a time when bullet selection was really quite simple. You had the choice of a varmint bullet, a cup and core or a solid. And depending on your quarry you made your choice. Cup and core pretty much ruled the roost with their hard hitting reliable expansion, but the difference between something like a deer bullet and a Bison or Elk bullet simply meant getting a bigger, heavier bullet in a larger caliber with a higher sectional density and a thicker jacket. The solids were reserved for Dangerous game. Frankly I STILL use that system. And guess what, it STILL works! High velocity Magnum rifles are the primary reason that the need for so called "Premium" bullets came about. That's why Partitions got so big, because they were immune to Magnum velocity driven failure but with the same positive aspects of a SP. But what a lot of folks don't seem to realize is that a bigger, heavier cup and core slug could solve most of that problem too. Even if people prefer to use "premium" bullets, they can still benefit from understanding the old method of bullet selection and how it worked.
I live in South Africa and use Sierra GK 130gr (270win) for everything from warthog to eland. Never lost a single animal that was hit. Ranges vary from 50m to 400m.
Could never get the Accubond to shoot well. Hornady interbond is my bullet of choice. Never been disappointed by it. Killed both deer and elk with this bullet
I started checking out controlled expanding bullets back in the 70s after some mixed results with my first high performance at that time 7mm rem mag. 139 Hornady interlock and 160 sierra game king were the bullets I used the most. Those bullets seamed to do the job but usually left a real mess! Even on a clean lung shot sometimes the blood shot would go way up in between the muscle groups 18 inches away from the impact point. One time A white tail buck had three exit holes! Nosler partitions were much more consistent and when Ross Safried (guns and ammo magazine shooting editor at that time) recommended Barnes x bullets I started loading them.They had some problems with pressures and copper fowling, but they have evolved like everything else!
This rule applies to all firearms, the projectile always does the work. It’s amazing people spend huge amounts of money and time on platform and optics. But not nearly as much time on ammunition selection.
Amen brother ! I have this argument at the gun counter quite often. . barns tsx , nosler accubonds , nosler partitions and federal terminal ascents are my top picks . I hunt elk in the trees and the last one i shot was a quartering towards at 20 feet , it drove through the front shoulder , through the lungs and exited . That was a 200 grain tsx loaded to 2850 out of my 325 wsm . The elk walked about 30 feet and fell over dead . I helped Guide a moose hunt this year and the guys showed up with Berger vld bullets . I told them this was a bad idea and guess what …the moose was hit and never recovered . Absolute garbage and a horrible way for our game animals to die .
A hunting bullet must hit hard (stuns the animal), cut deep (lung/heart damage and internal bleeding), and cripple the animal (bone/muscle/nerve damage). That's a tall order and it requires matching bullets to animals.
I recently shot a Red Stagg in the shoulder from 50 yards with a 300 win mag. I used Barnes TTSX 168 grain. Thanks to this, the bullet did not explode and did its job, falling less than 20 yards from the place.
Thanks! Ive never understood why I get good mushrooms out of my gamekings at inside 300 yards while others get shrapnel. Now I know it is because I keep my velocities low compared to others.
In Russia we have an interesting idea, basically a civilian version of 7Н1 sniper bullet. It is an FMJ bullet with two-piece core, forward piece is steel, bottom piece is lead. As it hits the hard tissue or bone, it tumbles and breaks apart in the body, so two cores might go independent from each other and deal heavy wounds to the target.
(1) I want nothing to do with fragmenting bullets for hunting. (2) controlled expansion bullets: check the min recommending velocity for these...some of them do open up at slower speeds (i.e., as far out as one would reasonably shoot and especially if offered a longer-range broadside shot) (3) Years ago I reloaded Nosler Partitions ... LOVED them, but today they are sooo expensive. Ugh.
Yeah don't use fragmenting rounds in Africa. Our animals are a LOT tougher than American deer and have different physiognomy. Always go with the suggestions of the local PH's - they know what works.
Federal trophy bonded tipped, terminal long range, terminal ascent. All great, terminal ascent, best hunting bullet whether it be close or long. I am talking from experience on animals, not jugs or water, on elk. From 80 to 550 yards they perform perfectly. I have 5 recovered bullets that have perfect expansion and 95% weight retention.
Do I like being able to take 1000+ yard shots at a range, and test my ability to to perform in relatively low-stress environments? Yes, it's fun, and though difficult, it's very repeatable if you've done your homework. Do I have any desire to push the outer limit of a “sensible hunting range” with the rifle, round, and glass combo I'm using, in dynamic conditions with an animal's life involved? Nope. I'll walk a little bit and get into that distance for me and my setup. If I can't get into 200-600yds depending on the setup, what am I doing out there? If I can take a 20yd shot, I'd take it, but I'll comfortably take a 400yd shot with the right rifle, if it's the best option on the table. But damn it I'll walk and cut the distance if it's available. It's hunting not prs.
Speer hot cor for deer. Speer grand slam for heavy duty performance. Poor man's nosler partitions. Love my speer. Very forgiving and can turn fussy rifle into tack driver.
When I see someone "hunting" with those long-range heavy barreled rifles they often jerk their head up after the (gut) shot like they've never learned how to shoot. Interesting. And the guys with those huge Huskemaw scopes wounding game? Who would have thunk it? Hunting sure doesn't need all this.
