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A tale of two thinktanks - you lucky things.
Jon has spent the day at the Tony Blair Institute and Emily has been with the Popular Conservatives (PopCons), Liz Truss' former parish.
After the worst result in their history, how does the Conservative party rebuild?
And what lessons are those on the right of the party taking away from Thursday night's defeat? Lewis talks to former party treasurer and donor, Lord Michael Spencer, about the direction for the party now.
Later, crunch time for Joe Biden - will his own party really seek to remove him before the week is done?
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@martinjones3519 16 дней назад

I once travelled the World as a somewhat proudish British bloke. The last ten years have been truly awful. The incompetence and entitlement mixed with hubris is/has been so damaging. However, the new Government gives me great hope.

@joesoy9185 16 дней назад

It's not bad to be less proudish of the current state of the UK.

@mailjimmygalaxy 16 дней назад

Suella makes my skin crawl. The hatred and devision she creates is palpable. If she or Kemi became party leader that would be horrific.

@swanvictor887 15 дней назад

... on the other hand...it would guarantee Labour get another couple of terms!

@mailjimmygalaxy 15 дней назад

@@swanvictor887 every cloud has a silver lining

@lcg8220 16 дней назад

Mogg was rather snippy there, must still be stinging from getting booted from such a safe seat.

@nigelhardy7218 15 дней назад

My heart weeps for him! 🤣🤣🤣

@lewischerry3552 16 дней назад

Braverman is making a weird play, making herself look and feel like a dictator from a George Orwell novel, I’m not sure it’s going to win the popular vote.

@swanvictor887 15 дней назад

maybe she thinks she can copy the Repugs in the USA - go through the Courts to change the Laws from the inside as it were. Use Think-Tanks and Big Business for money...soon the Voters become Irrelevant, as they are in the USA.

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 14 дней назад

For the sake of humanity I hope not.

@stevebell6057 16 дней назад

The tories are stuck in the past, they will never learn - I'm very happy to say.

@williamevans9426 16 дней назад

Well, given that Braverman cited the second world war in her speech, I think you might well be correct! 😆

@stevebell6057 16 дней назад

@@williamevans9426 Jesus - I thought I had misheard that. “Don’t mention the war!’

@williamevans9426 15 дней назад

@@stevebell6057 I thought so too, initially, so I replayed it twice! I hope I misheard three times.

@juliewake4585 14 дней назад

@@stevebell6057I did it once but I think I got away with it!

@rachelian8742 16 дней назад

Really don't want to hear about them for a while, or hopefully ever again. Seriously.

@juliewake4585 14 дней назад

It would be great if we didn’t wouldn’t it’s?

@hg82met 16 дней назад

Total, utter irrelevance. Cruella was whinging about pride flags today, and I didn't even bat an eyelid because she's no longer in a position to dictate her hateful views.

@hydra66 16 дней назад

Absoutely. And the press should stop giving her the airtime.

@venuslin8647 16 дней назад

Those who voted for her must be mad😮..

@Shsjier 15 дней назад

@@hydra66simply ignoring far right and facists doesnt work. You have to argue against them and explain why they're wrong

@Hartley_Hare 15 дней назад

They're not irrelevant. Far from it. A large portion of the people who turned up voted for right wing parties and if they absorb Reform or ape their policies, then they're going to succeed. The culture war stuff does resonate, whether people like it or not, and there is a sense of exasperation with people not being able to concretely define what a woman is. I'm in a constituency that adjoins Lee Anderson's and the groundswell of support for those right of centre policies is palpable. People don't like immigrants, think trans rights have gone way too far and don't like paying taxes.

@31Blaize 15 дней назад

@@Hartley_Hare Except trans people have been around for decades. Much like the EU, people are only now disliking them because they're being told to. I suspect that if life gets better for most people, it takes away the urge to "blame" a section of society and the populist argument falls flat.

@markatkinson167 16 дней назад

Funny how we've already moved on from them. Onto better things.

@captivatethem 16 дней назад

it's hilarious that her takeaway from the election was "yeah we need to do more culture war"

@williamchapple8886 16 дней назад

Whilst new culture secretary Lisa Nandy has decreed the culture wars over, it speaks volumes

@captivatethem 16 дней назад

@@williamchapple8886 maybe voters like actual policies that will improve their lives vs whatever twenty year old tory staffers think gets clicks on social

@stevenesbitt3528 15 дней назад

@@williamchapple8886Lisa Nandy is a compete idiot

@nickmurray2997 15 дней назад

Pls let them go down this rabbit hole, the longer it takes them to come back the more progress we can make as a country.

@stvmarshall 15 дней назад

Like a doctor telling you "This drug is making your condition worse. I propose to double the dose".

@edwardwilliamson1 16 дней назад

Suella is worse than Farage, in my view

@mansnotbot4160 16 дней назад

Only because he projects an image of someone you can have a pint with. And I'm sure he'd be a fine drinking partner. But the sum total of his views are just as dangerous. The difference is, he's more palatable to the British electorate. Suella is just auditioning for a career as the next Candace Owens. That's where the money is

@LoserNamedWyn 16 дней назад

She's just more openly hateful

@Nova2Yung 15 дней назад

@@mansnotbot4160 spot on mate, farago plays a caricature of the average bloke in a pub , great analysis

@jujutrini8412 15 дней назад

Farage is just a better politician that’s all. He knows how to say things without directly saying things (public school education) so that he can deny accusations of extremism. He knows precisely which buttons to push in order to gain a reaction.

@gerardmackay8909 15 дней назад

@@Nova2Yung a friend of mine was on the same Question Time as Farage a while back and in the Green Room he was incredibly obnoxious about how poor the red wine choice was and was generally being rude to staff. His public image of ‘straight shooting, a pint of real ale please landlord, affability’ is a total sham. His private views are every bit as toxic as Cruella’s but, unlike her, he knows when to keep schtum! An elitist to his bootstraps he will not look forward to listening to the moans of the Clacton brigade (if indeed he even bothers to show up more than once in a blue moon)

@slightlyconfused876 16 дней назад

Michael Spencer sums up everything that is vile about the Tories, everyone scratches everyone else's backs and ignores the country that you are supposed to be serving, and we have proved to be corrupt but the opposition might be too, so that's OK then. What an excuse for corrupt politics.

@aboutspecific1295 16 дней назад

Tom Tugendhat is the Tories' only hope If they elect Suella, Priti or Kemi, they're done

@mrD66M 16 дней назад

Jenrick?

@aboutspecific1295 16 дней назад

@@mrD66M I thought he was alright. But his interview with Kuenssberg where he blamed everything on immigration shows he's learned nothing. That and he's a general wet lettuce

@deadandburied7626 16 дней назад

What a coven! 😮

@TheLucanicLord 16 дней назад

He wanted Boris to come back. He's no better than the rest.

@xavierhucklenbruch1798 16 дней назад

I would say they are done anyhow..

@jonathanfell688 16 дней назад

Tolerance. Empathy. Compassion. Strength through diversity. Fairness. Great British virtues.

@maewest68 16 дней назад

Diversity is not, and never was, anybody's strength.

@LeafHuntress 16 дней назад

@@maewest68 Countries where ALL people contribute have ALWAYS been stronger than those that relied on limited numbers.

@maewest68 16 дней назад

@@LeafHuntress All and always are quite strong words.

@mrD66M 16 дней назад

@maewest68 north Korean?

@broadcast-east 16 дней назад

Natavist? @@maewest68

@jankench1731 16 дней назад

Speaking from tory free Country I don't care.

@jermaineishmael7225 16 дней назад

This guy is the embodiment on what's wrong with this country.....nothing about the country or its people, not a care in the world they absolutely only care about themselves and what they can do for themselves.....climbing the greasy pole by any means necessary....DISGUSTING!!!

@methanedirigible 16 дней назад

30:14 He’s got no answer to that. Just ‘whataboutism’. Coward. Get that lot _out_ of the House of Lords. Crucially he says leg work ‘for a _political party’_ - not the British people.

@karlclark8625 15 дней назад

Michael Spencer is clamouring for a peerage, party donors shouldn't be given such appointments. The work done for one’s part should a selfless act.

@methanedirigible 15 дней назад

@@karlclark8625 And regardless - it was for _party_ and not _country_ - we owe him nothing

@nigelhardy7218 15 дней назад

Snouts in the trough. Party first country... pah sod the plebs! is their motto.

@MarkInOxford 16 дней назад

I’m not convinced they have a future.

@tomb407 16 дней назад

Fingers crossed

@SuezWSuezW 16 дней назад

Braverman won her seat and didn't go to be sworn in? Class act.

@PaulInPorirua 16 дней назад

Surely the Popular Conservatives need a name change just to avoid being accused of false advertising.

@originalbadboy32 16 дней назад

I agree.. They should change their name to the: Conservatives for Unity, Nationality & Total Security

@PaulInPorirua 16 дней назад

@@originalbadboy32 Farage's United Conservative... K... I need a K...

@originalbadboy32 16 дней назад

@@PaulInPorirua Kabal?

@PaulInPorirua 16 дней назад

@@originalbadboy32 Excellent. We're getting there. You call Suella, and I'll get the PowerPoint together.

@stevenwilliamson6236 16 дней назад

Cameron was a competent leader? Isn't he responsible for Brexit? Negative productivity for as long as the Tories have been in charge, then?

@monkeytron5061 16 дней назад

We don’t care about them anymore.

@SuezWSuezW 16 дней назад

Yeah. I think they must have booked and paid for the venue months ago.

@nenehermannfoundation1187 16 дней назад

you dont care about an opposition in a democracy? where are you from, China?

@simony2801 16 дней назад

Reform now, lefties and immigrants out.

@irnickkkknowles 16 дней назад

Your mum@@nenehermannfoundation1187

@Hartley_Hare 15 дней назад

@@simony2801 Where should I go to?

@J-wm4go 16 дней назад

Its future is short, hopefully.

@vivwindsor4055 16 дней назад

Braverman is obviously learniing a lot from Trumpism, while she's over in the US. Fear of the Pride flag, transphobia etc.

@Narg_Smart 15 дней назад

During the interview where this man became very defensive about appointing treasurers or donors to the House of Lords: the argument he made was that someone providing services to a party should get a lifetime appointment in the country’s legislative body. Not for services to the country, to a party. I feel the interviewer let that dichotomy go to easily, in the flow of the discussion, stepping over to the “look” of the thing too fast, as if agreeing with him.

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 15 дней назад

Does anybody else think that as the generations that fought fascism in WW2 pass away so has passed their direct experience and defence of humanity?

@nicholasarrow2443 14 дней назад

Spot on

@Monklane79 16 дней назад

Have you seen how few young people would consider voting tory? They're dinosaurs walking.

@colincampbell4261 16 дней назад

But Reform plc got alot of young votes. Their tiktok campaign was quite successful.

@Coops5361 15 дней назад

@@colincampbell4261yes, they got quite a bit support from younger men than younger women. I'm left wondering why.

@clarecrawford9677 15 дней назад

@@Coops5361 Acolytes of the Tate brothers maybe? Worrying all the same.

@Coops5361 15 дней назад

@@clarecrawford9677 yes it is worrying.

@nightwi5h959 16 дней назад

"wheel him out into the sun" Cheers Lewis I literally lost my mind at that :D

@jujutrini8412 15 дней назад

The Conservative Party needs more intelligent politicians.

@awesomfog345 16 дней назад

She’s a disgrace

@lewischerry3552 16 дней назад

Most people aren’t extremist and I say this as an extremist, extreme left or right politics freaks most people out. If the Tories do similar to what Starmer did they might gain some seats in 2029, not that they’d deserve them no matter what they do next.

@TheScoppie 16 дней назад

Lewis’s blunt question to the former Party Treasurer - “In what direction do you think it was it insufficiently conservative?” - was great.

@SilverHalsen 16 дней назад

Brings on a tory who instantly starts lying and trying to explain away the corruption we all witnessed.

@simonbarnaby8042 16 дней назад

It was the best of thinktanks, it was the worst of thinktanks……

@kevingiblin4122 15 дней назад

Well done Lewis you tid him up in Nuts great show as ever how is Emily's poltergeist😅😊

@samhartford8388 16 дней назад

Haha, that defence of lordship was revealing. And Disgusting.

@broadcast-east 16 дней назад

Political analysts are So arrogant. The electorate does not map the political landscape as left or right - but wrong and right. It understands first past the post and so the wipe out was intended, the flirtation with minor parties is intended. Voting is situational who is to say that with PR we wouldn’t get the same result? Reform’s 4m votes were piled up in a small number of constituencies when the savvy Labour and LibDems focussed their efforts on winning individual races. I am in Liz Truss’ old seat we openly spoke to other voters agreeing to vote for anyone but Truss and we wiped out a 24,000 majority. We are not political analysts but we understand how our politics works.

@jamesanthony9316 16 дней назад

Yes well said, I've heard so much talk about vote share from the Conservatives and reform. Fact is that your campaign strategy is based on the game at play. You cannot just transfer results from FPTP and assume the same result because under PR party strategy would be different. Corbyn stacked up more votes but not efficiently so it was a pointless tactic. We lost a game of football but if we were playing polo we would have done better is a nonsense argument.

@markrussell6881 16 дней назад

What would Peel and Disraeli make of the claim that they 'Were not Conservative enough'? I doubt they would recognize or agree with anything they said.

@robertdarby6553 15 дней назад

Honours for cash. Trying to defend the indefensible.

@ericaceous1652 16 дней назад

Most of what made me ashamed of Britain was down to the Tories - austerity, migrant blaming, culture warring. Perhaps I can start to have some pride in my country now that they're no longer in government.

@jonahspiper 16 дней назад

Braverman is hate filled. Not the marches.

@rorrt 15 дней назад

Suella Braverman quoting "Common law" in the opening. Is a possible sign she's going after the Sovereign Citizens crowd. Fml.

@ShahidKhan-ke8fe 15 дней назад

She's a lawyer. I hope not. But you can't rule it out.

@NA-zs2sw 15 дней назад

House of lords needs serious reform. I'm glad this is on Labour's radar, even if it's baby steps.

@lesleypatriciajordison4890 15 дней назад

Oh yes, Reformers glued to Purcell and Tallis and Gainsborough and Austen! Lol

@neale76 15 дней назад

They are in total denial of what has actually happened to them. They still don't seem to understand.

@mostlyindica 15 дней назад

Lewis loves talking over Emily

@lp70schick 16 дней назад

Suella who? Oh, you mean Cruella! Yeh, we have all moved on. The media need to follow the British public and do the same.

@nicholaspamphlett1221 16 дней назад

One omission in the guest's analysis of what went wrong. Interestingly, he didn't mention it, and I think tellingly , didn't mention Brexit. Unfortunately, he was not challenged on this here. He seems the voice of reason, but I suspect his £250,000 was for the 2019 'Brexit ' Conservative party 🥳

@djmix8977 16 дней назад

Great discussion 👍

@brianferguson7840 16 дней назад

THINGS 🎵CAN ONLY🎶 GET BETTER !🎶 THINGS CAN 🎶ONLY 🎶GET BETTER !🎵

@IainWisdom 16 дней назад

the bit you left out was that since the debate Bidens numbers have strengthened against trump

@EdwardLindon 16 дней назад

He still trails. Against a candidate who is openly promising to be an authoritarian dictator. The latest polls indicate that the most popular prospective ticket would be Clinton-Harris ffs.

@ChrisKeziahHyde 16 дней назад

This quote sums up the Tories current situation: Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

@venuslin8647 16 дней назад

Trump is applying that😂. Maybe Suella is going for lessons from Trump😂

@CRingsing 16 дней назад

Conservatism has lost to one of the natural forces. This particular one called ‘evolution’. I am in my mid sixties, and the nonsense from Braverman wouldn’t even appeal to my parents, but my grand parents might have offered the odd nod of agreement.

@matthewframpton8737 15 дней назад

His defense of overt Tory corruption was pitiful! "Why shouldn't someone who helps out theTories be given a seat in the Lords for life?!?" - It's supposed to be for acts of service to the COUNTRY! Pathetic.

@trudne-polskie-slowa 15 дней назад

The conservative party is becoming more conservative because it's the only way to keep the right side just for them and not let others take over their electorate. See what is going on in Poland and you will understand the strategy.

@ReedoTV 16 дней назад

All the reform commenters have vanished since the election. Did the bot farm contract end?

@DarkFire515 16 дней назад

Pretty sure the russian bots moved on to trying to get the far right installed in France, which they also failed to do.

@nomadpurple6154 16 дней назад

The Russians moved on to the next Western democracy

@andrewcockburn7484 15 дней назад

He justified being made a lord because of working for, and donating to, the party. How about working for the country?

@ajw9533 15 дней назад

Being named Sue-Ellen after the chatacter on Dallas gave Braverman a massive inferiority complex.

@MrMhemhe 15 дней назад

Canada-style-bad was awaiting them before Farage entered the contest. At that point, the differential was 43% - 21%. Nigel actually saved the Tories from wipe-out.

@ShahidKhan-ke8fe 15 дней назад

During the 80s and 90s those on the left thought that Alliance + Labour votes = victory. That assumed that Alliance voters were just left voters. Not true as people like Nick Clegg prove. Similarly it's silly to think that all Tory voters are as conservative as Reform voters. They're not. If Tories became Reform then many Tory voters would switch to Lib Dems.

@I_Evo 13 дней назад

Alliance as in Northern Ireland Alliance Party? Don't remember them as a major factor when it came swinging UK elections. Oh and I agree with your last sentence, those who deserted the Tories for the Lib Dems in places like Oxfordshire where the Tories were wiped out are hardly going to return to a party even further to the right.

@ShahidKhan-ke8fe 13 дней назад

@@I_Evo I meant SDP Liberal Alliance. Maybe before your time.

@I_Evo 13 дней назад

@@ShahidKhan-ke8fe Yes I remember the SDP, probably the modern equivalent to the short lived Change UK party. Don't recall them ever being called the Alliance though.

@nigelhardy7218 15 дней назад

The Tory party may talk about listening while it's stunned...just wait until Sunak throws in the towel and a leadership contest opens. Listening will be the last thing on the mind of those in a pub brawl!

@angelicdespot2735 15 дней назад

Interesting Spencer interview. Better spoken than Braverman, but still seems to think the Tories weren't right wing enough! And very complacent on Tory corruption.

@woofla123 15 дней назад

Pop Cons limp and damp? What a nasty image!

@Bolachas25 15 дней назад

Cameron…a very competent leader…😂 Amazing how he, who through his cowardice, arrogance and incompetence began the damage and destruction that followed, has somehow escaped censure with his reputation intact. He has just again behaved like the self-serving coward that he is and received no more censure than a cheeky schoolboy would.

@JohnStevens-gp7ge 15 дней назад

What about Brexit? Surely only something as big as that can fully explain the scale of this defeat?

@therealrobertbirchall 16 дней назад

No future no future for you.

@thomasandrewclifford 16 дней назад

I don't see any comments about Lewis's interview with Spencer. Some really nice questioning to get a top donor to reflect on cronyism in the Conservative party. It doesnt just look bad, it looks like a plutocracy.

@Coops5361 15 дней назад

Agreed. Such entitlement. Let's hope the latest narrative on 'service' ends those assumptions.

@monty1864 15 дней назад

Imagine these talking heads allowing a real working class bloke like me on to ask a few uncomfortable questions ? Never gonna happen

@laParka1993 15 дней назад

the Tory’s Did make history by having Liz truss be the shortest prime Minister in the uk

@thomaschapman8312 15 дней назад

He is comfortable with buying his lifelong seat in the Lords and his only defences are others do it, it’s only a relatively small number and, although he doesn’t say it but obviously he believes corruption is a fundamental part of the Tory party practise ! !

@d.e.7210 16 дней назад

Genuinely impressed with Lord Spencer. I'm never going to be a Tory, but have to say Spencer is a credit to them.

@methanedirigible 16 дней назад

Still too cowardly to disown Cruella’s vitriol.

@dang6092 16 дней назад

@@methanedirigibleeh? He said he didn't agree with it....

@nomadpurple6154 16 дней назад

Still too greedy to agree that money shouldn't buy you a seat in the Lords.

@methanedirigible 16 дней назад

@@dang6092 And didn’t have the stones to criticise her directly. Just a weak “Oooh it’s inappropriate”. Again, I say _coward_

@dang6092 16 дней назад

@@methanedirigible 😂 think you're nit picking there

@colincampbell4261 16 дней назад

Reform plc - Putin's foriegn policy and Truss's economic policy.

@paulwood6519 16 дней назад

Since 2016, the UK electorate has sent a quite clear message about what it wants, which does not appear to have much to do with left or right. It is about how we want to be governed. It did not want an idle political class effectively outsourcing key decision making to a distant body such as the EU. It told the political classes that if they want the trappings of power then they should assume the responsibilities of it. The Tories were given benefit of the doubt for achieving this, albeit with a severe warning in 2017, but ultimately failed because they had no clear vision for achieving what they were being asked to implement and the debacle of Covid showed just how disjointed governance was in this country. A Labour government, with its sandcastle majority, will suffer the same fate if, as seems to be the case so far, they want to continue allowing decision making to be a function of obscure and disjointed quangos, "departmental reviews" and NGO lobbying. Starmer's vision, such as it can be discerned, shines with all the brightness of a Toc H lamp and the UK electorate will be quite happy to turn it off if it fails to illuminate a path towards which it has been pointing with increasing frustration.

@mrD66M 16 дней назад

I'm gonna be a devil's advocate here. IMO there is still a political space for centre-right conservatism (Labour has only adopted some of their positions to get elected, and deal with the dumpster fire tories left behind) - but that has to be pragmatic, grounded, with a forward vision and decidedly non-ideological. Politics need balance, a left needs a right BUT no parties from either end of the seesaw can provide that. Ideological debates trying to drag "centre" voters with them instead of taking heed of their primary concerns almost invariably ends up in the situation we're in now.

@marciamackey1645 15 дней назад

Glad the Tories are in their rightful place now - providing comedy rather than tragedy.

@Tom_murray89 16 дней назад

Breaverman is toxic

@richardcoppack5357 15 дней назад

The success of Reform is due to people's concern that their culture is under threat. Whether this is real or imagined, the centre need to reassure those that it isn't under threat.

@DharricRolyat 15 дней назад

"We lost the culture wars." [Internal arguments and strife.] "Let's start a culture war." Hopefully, they don't learn and spend an eternity in the wilderness as they become more bitter, delusional and irrelevant.

@themoodyteam 15 дней назад

Lord Spencer almost seems reasonable at times. Bring up immigration, legal or otherwise, and maybe not… 🤯

@johnking5174 16 дней назад

21:38 - From that response we can be assured the answer was a big NO.

@JohnnyinMN 14 дней назад

Typing ‘Victorian Age Thinking’ brought me here.

@user-zc4yd9ss7h 14 дней назад

Braverman will fail in her bid to become leader and flounce off to the Reform rabble. Then fall out with them...

@WinstonMelbourne-vt2vt 15 дней назад

the Tory party lost it's mind the use to before the EU and business and forgot all that, they turned their backs on Mrs T

@Romartus 15 дней назад

In 1983 Tony Benn celebrated the Labour party getting barely 28% of the vote as a victory for socialism. Labour had lost badly (just over 200 seats left) - amongst those out of parliament included Tony Benn.

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 15 дней назад

Emily please review your expression as KGM was interviewing Jeremy Corbyn during election night - can you explain?

@davesy6969 16 дней назад

Perhaps some smart designer uniforms would help their image?

@colincampbell4261 16 дней назад

And polished boots

@ingerfaber3411 14 дней назад

You also can't extrapolate from FPTP to PR number of votes

@saskiamoni1417 16 дней назад

She is trying to hard she gaslighting she said our religion what does she meant we are not one religion i was watching new parliament swearing in and they were swearing with different religious books what does she think about that

@LeafHuntress 16 дней назад

She didn't participate. Is she the single non MP in the country? I especially liked the diversity in languages. The different books as well. Most went for the KJV, but others asked for a catholic bible or just the new or old testament. One person held the old & the new testament? Wes Streeting requested the new Geneva bible i gather. And that one Sikh guy that wanted to take an oath, but to not hold a book. I had the most respect for that SDLP guy that added to his affirmation that he took this under duress & that his allegiance belonged to his constituents.

@johnristheanswer 13 дней назад

Hello Emily. Did you miss the details. Labour had a reduced percentage of votes. The " people " didn't go " left ".

@EdwardLindon 16 дней назад

Spencer's obvious sense of entitlement was pathetic and revealing in equal measure.

@MichaelPetersFenwicks 15 дней назад

Imagine the children conspiracy theory.............being at the centre of an entire argument considering the inconsistencies of many errors of conservatives. Suella needs soul searching and time out for a reality check.......

@davesy6969 16 дней назад

22 of their biggest donors got peerages (£54 million). The going rate for a peerage is £3+ million in donations.

@FoxyFox999 15 дней назад

The future is to redeem.

@jananders1351 16 дней назад

The PopCon public are likely annoyed that the Tories were nowhere near Reform UK enough. Rabbit holes would seem to be really comfortable places if you just go down them far enough.

@stevenesbitt3528 15 дней назад

If they want it exist, it’s to be actually conservative, a right of centre alternative appealing to people who will actually vote for them rather than pandering to people who won’t Edit - there shouldn’t be a left of the party, that’s the point

@I_Evo 13 дней назад

And how's that going to win back those 50 or so seats they lost to the Lib Dems? You really think those disaffected Tory voters will be attracted by a party even further to the right or is the aim just to win back the Reform mob?

@stevejames6674 16 дней назад

Well done suella. Nothing wtong wirh hating people like you. Such a brave self sacrificing Aunt Jemina

@jessrabbit1877 16 дней назад

Jeremy Corbyn got more votes than Keir Starmer did though, so how can their principal take away of "We need to be less like Corbyn" be accurate? They won because their opposition was split, not because they were popular.

@chriswatson3464 16 дней назад

Agreed Starmer's campaign was really disastrous.

@NickRothman1980 16 дней назад

Because vote share doesn't necessarily translate to seats in a FPTP system. Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017, but Tories got 43%. Corbyn got 33% in 2019, but Tories got 44%. Starmer got 34% in 2024, but the Tories only got 24%. It's to do with how widely your vote is spread, plus there was loads of tactical voting- Labour voters voting Lib Dems to get the Tories out in the South, so Labour's share of the vote would inevitably fall. It's called politics, it's called how to win an election playing the game infront of you. People adding the Tory and Reform centre right vote to get 39% is fine, but they never then add up the centre left vote of Labour, Lib Dem and Green to get 53%. So people voted for centre left parties mostly.

@nomadpurple6154 16 дней назад

Because people clubbed together (voted Tory) to keep Corbyn out. It's as relevant how many people fear you being in government as want you in government

@FredTheLard 16 дней назад

Lets look for the upside of this defeat. I'm sure there are enough points of interest to act as a story line for a comedy of errors. Maybe we get a play, film, or better a musical, out of recent history.

@Dnky27 16 дней назад

Definite echoes from Braverman of One people, One realm, One leader. Absolutely deluded.

@michaelruijtenbeek8672 15 дней назад

Wich pride-flag actually? The fact that that flag changed so often, is a sign that it is at least an unstable ideology, and government should only support causes wich are supported by a broad and enduring consensus.

@mikebirch6316 15 дней назад

Emily Maitlis said, talking abot JRM, “There was a real reluctance to engage with me today, which I found just very odd, very curious.” Maybe it's because most people don't like you or your political bias.