What is Trailbraking? | The Ultimate Sim Racing Tutorial

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What separates quick sim drivers from really quick sim drivers? Braking. More specifically, trail braking.
In an effort to help you shave vital tenths from your lap times, watch as John talks you through the intricacies of trail braking, with an in-depth guide backed up by his real-life and sim racing experiences.
If Spoon puts you in a spin, or your Parabolica performance is decidedly diabolical, John’s expert advice will be sure to put you on the right (race) track.
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@TraxionGG 2 года назад

What other techniques would you like us to create guides for?

@Thibaut_Guerquin 2 года назад

Could you make a video about the different type of corners/curbs and turns and how to approach them ? Thanks for the guide !

@Tobus75 2 года назад

Racing in traffic, especially in first few laps of a race when traffic is thick and following the racing line is next to impossible.

@chrismatthews5655 2 года назад

@@Tobus75 yepppp defo this. Attacking first few laps when bunched up wud be gd

@jasonzbell 2 года назад

I think the hardest/most time consuming part is learning to use Motec. I've yet to use it and I know there are some long, in-depth videos out there by Nils, Aris, etc., but I personally really enjoy the tutorial videos you put out. Easy to digest and replicate in the sim with lots of practice using the correct techniques. Cheers! JBell

@wibblewabblewoo6249 2 года назад

@@Tobus75 100%, this is my biggest weakness too

@festa289 2 года назад

Good video, but I feel it would have been more informative if you showed the steering and brake inputs to better show the technique

@whyg400man6 7 месяцев назад

its acc very simple you turn just a little bit and you just pray to god you make it out of the corner

@garyrowe58 5 месяцев назад

Tricky to fo that, the technique is different for every type of car and then how it is set up, and what the specific conditions are when you approach each bend.

@garyrowe58 5 месяцев назад

Also, if you sim race, a great way to learn is to try forcing understeer or oversteer in a corner solely by how you use your brakes ... learn how to alter the cars turning behaviour by using extremes: learn how to create predictable amount of understeer and oversteer with the use of the brakes. start with terminal amounts, then dual it back to something useful. I think then it'll be obvious to you what works best for you.

@jericosha2842 2 года назад

One of the best videos on the topic and the editing was masterful. Thanks.

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Thanks very much!

@mesijevoprenejvozed7152 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the video! Nicely explained. This will boost my performance for sure! :)

@l337g0g0 2 года назад

VERY VERY nice and informative educational video about braking and turning, great work here.

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Thank you very much!

@MalyJirka Год назад

Thank you so much! I consider myself kinda experienced driver, but those little details we can find in those videos are major! Keep up the excellent work!

@TraxionGG Год назад

Appreciate it!

@initialdoge8528 Год назад

@@TraxionGG damn bro i tried trail braking with dead tires and now I am in the barrier

@levi6859 2 года назад

I haven’t seen one of your videos in a little bit but this is a very good video. I’m waiting for the update to start playing the game again but, I think I might give these tips a try in the meantime.

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Welcome back! Glad you found it enjoyable

@zzdupe7142 4 месяца назад

i watched this video because i was told by a lot of people to try out trailbreaking once i get a little bit better, despite my fast lap time. I'm pretty sure ive been using trailbreaking without knowing it a lot 😭😭😭 still a helpful video though, and i learned about where to use it!! thank you for this

@DanLMH 2 года назад

Great info & explanation John!

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@ilsebalis2322 4 месяца назад

1:03 that guy crashed XD

@antoniorosati1064 12 дней назад

fr😂

@FreddyGaming 2 месяца назад

Something that improved my time when I learnt about it is the back that the as you break into a corner try to push to the limit the grip with the braking and steering. If you steer too early it means you can go faster

@Trickshot_26 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much man i appreciate this video

@TraxionGG 9 месяцев назад

Glad it helped!😊

@DrMario-su6xj Год назад

1:22 Bethesda needs to hire him for the ragdoll physics.

@tubzvermeulen 2 года назад

Thanks for the video

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Our pleasure!

@SlyNine 2 года назад

I thought it was called spinning out of control when I try it.

@eeeeyuke 2 года назад

That dig at 5:45 was so funny.

@miau31333 Год назад

Now it all makes sense

@littlerhino2006 Год назад

Do you recommend a particular platform to start with? As in driven axles and engine placement?

@TraxionGG Год назад

I would say rear wheel drive, front engine is a good place to start as they tend to noticeably benefit from the technique more often than other drivetrain and engine layouts. Good luck! 😊

@EFguy162 Месяц назад

Is this similar to using the brakes to turn-in the front end of a Rally car on dirt? I learned this from a Colin McRae video and I am feeling like it translates almost directly. Well, without trees of course. Great video!!

@garrystevens8793 2 года назад

Excellent detailed explanation, thanks 🙏

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Appreciate it, cheers!

@an_0rdinary_Gamer Год назад

I love it how in the intro, someone's gets YEETED into the wall on spa

@TraxionGG Год назад

Well spotted!😂

@theblaznee 2 года назад

I drive the McLaren the most in ACC and I'm really struggling with this technique. Whenever I try it I go immediately in to an oversteer spin. Slow corners, fast corners and mediums. I just can't seem to "feel" the balance.

@chrismatthews5655 2 года назад

@jesper rathsach I am/was the same. Its the car I chose in second half of career mode. I'm jus in practice mode allllll the time. And I turn on the consistency scoring jus so it shows how quick ur actually taking sections.. there are a few tracks I think am smashin but it shows I'm "slow" so I kno I can push more. Or at the other end. It can say "too aggressive" so I kno I can cool down abit and not be so hard. Don't wanna sound an arse but the corners ur pushing on u may actually be pushing the car over the limit for that corner, if that makes sense. I have found tht with quite a few corners to says too aggressive or out of control, but from me driving its controlled over steer

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

I would either try adjusting the brake bias towards the front (increasing the number), or lowering the rear ride height and/or raising the front. Give that a go and see if it helps 😊

@chrismatthews5655 2 года назад

@@TraxionGG OR THAT lol.. listen to the pro lol.

@theblaznee 2 года назад

@@TraxionGG I will try it out. I'm running the coach dave academy setups, and maybe they are a bit too aggressive for my style. I just don't quite get the theory behind what's happening since I spin out so bad on even very slow corners. Am I breaking too hard and generating too much grip together with too much steering lock?

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Quite possibly! The McLaren is mid engined and finely balanced, so is sensitive to snap oversteer. It might be that by loading up the fronts too much, you are leaving the back of the car with less grip as you turn in. It’s always a tricky car to master, and is actually one that does suit a bit of coasting into the corners at times, even if that sounds a bit contradictory after watching this video! It’s like I said though, everything is dependent on car choice and setup, so some cars will suit certain things more than others.

@danielstokker 2 года назад

What seems to be left out is that with trailbraking you actually need to carry more speed into that corner for it to work propperly braking while steering into a corner isnt always trailbraking certainly when you fail at it your not trail braking your just fucking it up this also wont work on every corner and is specificly aimed at faster corners because the longer and wider the corner the more effect its gonne have on your times

@LordGeyBoi Год назад

Well I guess I have already been doing this since I started sim racing! Thank you for the great explanation on it though

@JuanAdam12 Год назад

Non-racer here: is trail braking done with one foot on the brake and one foot on the accelerator, simultaneously? (I thought that’s what the camera showed.)

@TraxionGG Год назад

It can be done either way. Sometimes you need a little bit of throttle at the right moment to stabilise the rear end of the car, but most of the time you won’t do. All depends on how the car you are driving behaves (and the specific corner). Experiment with both options if you are unsure! Hope this helps and good luck😊

@JuanAdam12 Год назад

@@TraxionGG thank you for that info. I can’t imagine how long it would take to develop the left leg driving muscle to go light on the brake when it’s used to going heavy on the clutch pedal.

@crunchieRL Год назад

Would a GT3 /4 car be a good one to practice this technique then?

@TraxionGG Год назад

Yes absolutely, should work well in certain corners 😊

@rotua98 Год назад

1:37 whats car is that ? i know its BMW, looks like M4, but why its have the past DTM aero body ?

@TraxionGG Год назад

This is the rFactor2 BMW M4 Class 1. Essentially, it's what the BMW DTM car would have been in 2021, if they hadn't switched to GT3 based regulations. It's personally my favourite car available on rF2!

@rotua98 Год назад

@@TraxionGG yeah shame that GT3, that DTM aero give a distinct look and functionality, beauty also so is that mod or paid in-game item ? im yet to have rf2, still waiting for discount sale

@NSGAE Год назад

what is a good track in AC ( not ACC) to practice trail breaking?

@TraxionGG Год назад

Brands Hatch is pretty good! Quite a few corners with big trailbraking sections, especially on the GP layout. Silverstone has quite a few as well.

@NSGAE Год назад

@@TraxionGG thanks

@brawler5760 7 месяцев назад

How can I do this easily on controller for more mainstream games like Gran Turismo and Forza?

@TraxionGG 7 месяцев назад

That’s a tricky one, will be all about fine adjustments on the brake trigger. Not easy with a regular controller, might be worth getting some sort of pro controller!

@peterwood2633 Год назад

So you are off the throttle when trail braking?

@TraxionGG Год назад

Yes, although occasionally a tiny bit of throttle can help stabilise the rear end of a front wheel drive car heading into a corner (depending on the sim etc), and sometimes a blip of the throttle on downshifts can also help things in the braking zone. There are plenty of variables so its very much a case of trial and error :)

@marsiosos 2 года назад

Great video!! What game did you use for the part around 1:45?

@TraxionGG 2 года назад

Thanks! This was Assetto Corsa Competizione, the Alpine GT4 at Donington.

@marsiosos 2 года назад

@@TraxionGG thanks a lot :) especially those parts looked insanely detailed

@demiquadfpv3333 2 года назад

Food explanation of the theory and grip budget. Would have liked to have seen some side by side corners like hungero t2, maybe with telemetry, comparing with and without trail, just so we know what improvement to aim for.

@chrismatthews5655 2 года назад

I was doing this on my sim rig without even knowing it lol. My mate asked me" when did I learn trail braking" I was like "wtaf is tht" lol

@thesecondchillguy5697 2 года назад

Same tbh. Very crucial stuff when in a WTCC car.

@stevemichael9576 2 года назад

Haha… I’ve also been doing it without realising. Very hard to get right consistently. Also success rate tends to be dependent on car choice and driving style. I’m going to try and do it consciously now

@Scragg- 5 месяцев назад

When I do this I lift my foot and point my toes like a ballerina or ice skater… kinda weird to say that but that’s literally what it feels like. And it works for me so I guess it’s fine