Man you already know this, but I am not tired of saying it. Your channel is becoming better and better, you're basically creating a niche for people who actually wanna think and do calisthenics at the same time (something that should be common but it's clearly not ahah) and I'll always be open to helping you in this cause. Been on the bandwagon since day 1 and I'm not getting down anytime soon ;)
Im gonna cry for real. Thank you brother you are always such a support no matter what happens. I truly, truly appreciate that and really can't wait to train with you one day.
@@FrinksmovementTV Eric! I just found your channel today and you already spoke to a deep void I've been trying to find out what it was that would fill it. I love the depth of research (?), thought, and quality of content you pack in. One thing I missed is a good coach. I had gymnastics coaches for 14 years and older gymnasts who made me better. When I got training with wrestlers and other high school athletes to add a lot of lean muscle from weight training (for hypertrophy) and taking punches I had a group of guys to coach me. After I left high school I found I missed most was a core group of guys to challenge me to be my best. Pandemic killed lots of things but mostly the tight friendships who would journey with me through even the shit they put up with me. Thanks, Eric.
@@FrinksmovementTV It's really hard to express how they hit me so well. I watched parts again and thought some and watched again. You have a gift. And please don't freak out by how I train. I feel pieces are falling in place. I really feel the need to challenge my body physically and have that plan now. Thanks.
Another swimmer right here. I can absolutely relate to being better at pulling. Really struggling with Handstand Pushups and overhead pressing in general, while Muscle Ups, Front Lever etc. feels much more natural to me.
I used to be a competitive swimmer, i reached 4 sec front lever and one arm pull up in one and a half year of calisthenics, still i have tuck planche. Also check out Manuel Caruso, he used to be a swimmer too, and he Is a god when it comes to pulling strenght
Me to, I am 184cm tall and weight 82kg and still can hold a full front lever. I also can do a lot of muscle ups, one arm pull ups and a 6 sec victorian but I can't do a handstand, handstand push ups or a straddle planche. I used to swim and climb alot when I was a kid, maybe my back muscles including my spine got really strong with it.
What's up fellas! I hope you're all hold strong during this hard situation we all deal with. Wherever you are and whatever you go through I send you all my support. I hope this video will give you some joy and provoke some thoughts. You can find all the links in the description and of course tell me, how do YOU see this whole rant? Is it visible to create some bodyweight standards?
Nice video man ! I also wanted to talk about level in calisthenics. You did it very well ! Your editing is improving, it's amazing ! Keep doing good stuff
Thank you for putting some of my leg moves in the video and good analysis of the standards topic. I think the Overcoming Gravity charts by Steven Low are one of the best approaches so far, he rated various progressions by level assuming someone who is not genetically biased towards pulling vs pushing etc. and two different movement patterns have the same level if that hypothetical person would take the same time to reach them. Each level is something like a 1-3 rm if dynamic or 6 seconds if an isometric hold or 9 seconds if an eccentric, and the levels are from the contribution of various athletes, not sure about the sample size. It's not an ideal approach since we all have different limb proportions, tendon insertion length, fast twitch vs slow twitch fiber proportions for different muscles etc., but similar approaches with a large sample of athletes could be useful.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19l4tVfdTJLheLMwZBYqcw1oeEBPRh8mxngqrCz2YnVg/ And the author answered some questions about the charts here: www.reddit.com/r/overcominggravity/comments/acvssx/question_about_interpreting_the_progression/
Great video frinks! Your analysis & pursuit of truth in regards to bodyweight training is what sets you apart from other channels, and I genuinely appreciate the amount of time and energy you put into your work. Looking forward to seeing more quality content you release in the future.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="395">6:35</a> I‘m a Climber and there was a time, where I did more Pull Ups than Push Ups, so I can prove that. around 12 Pull Ups and around 10-12 Push Ups
Someone's still here?? 😆 Well I wanted to bring your attention to something that i would add to the video if was doing it today. Manuel Caruso - who Im sure you are familiar with has recently posted on his IG that he achieved his first 90 degree pushup - mind you, its a guy who was doing MALTESE. I achieved my 90 degree pushup a year ago, but i dont have any.. ANY business to even attempt full planche, not even talking maltese... Just wanted to add it, to prove my point ;) Oh and got couple of new Swimmers examples... maybe im gonna do a vid on it for real haha frinksmovement.com/coaching/ - book consultation / apply for coaching / programming frinksmovement.com/contact/ - questions regarding coaching, cooperation/business, videos www.gornation.com - 10% Discount on Calisthenics Clothing & Equipment with the code "frinks"
Finally watched. There's few calisthenics channels actually creating quality content. Yours is one of them, well done! Plus, editing and humor make the videos interesting and basically awesome :D
This is the content I want to make but I need to learn editing first lol. Good observations and I noticed same thing with the swimmers. When it comes to Pike Push Ups, if you do them right then 20 on the floor is gonna be really hard. Feet elevated might be easier than proper floor ones if you have a lot of the weight on the feet and if you open your chest a lot at the bottom.
Also your hanging leg raises at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="915">15:15</a> is what I grew up doing. As a young impressional gymnast I met Brandon Wynn and he gave us tips on hanging leg raises and half leg raises. (See his hanging leg abs tutorial here--ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZG66zhtQ8b8.html) I was maybe 12 when I met him. Also I started doing hanging leg raises from the girl's uneven bars--you hang from the lower bar with your butt a few inches off the mat with your legs out and heels on the mat. Then you use only your abdominals to bring toes to bar. Those will make your abs pop and make your lower 2 rows of abdominal muscle amazingly strong and rock hard. When I took punches guys would pound away all day on my bottom 2 rows while I'm held a full nelson. Abdominals are amazing muscles and so much fun to train. In high school part of my abs training was high reps and that meant doing as many reps to failure. Then later goal is to do more reps. On hanging leg raises in gymnastics we would do as many reps as we could do without dismounting--we could rest but had to keep holding the bar switching hands as needed. I grew up on the bar from age 4 and so I usually won all hanging leg raise contests in USA. I could do over 100 most days if arms weren't too over trained for the day. The other trick is 1-arm hanging leg raises. So to the question is which skills to test people in? In many bar workouts guys take punches to their abs while hanging from the bar. Does those count as something to be tested? I like your approach to this level question.
very well crafted video bro! You're definitely a pusher :D 90%+ military press is pretty insane! (and 90° full)! just wanna say pistol and shrimp squat: it depends .. for me shrimp is easier than pistol (where you need a pretty flexible ankle)
So I think it's actually most useful in terms of training to categorize it into two groups. Novice and post novice. truthfully outside of the novice stage there isn't too much difference in training or programming aside from how much volume and intensity that individual needs to elicit a training response. But there's no hard line to determine when they can be considered advanced. It's also highly individual because everyone has different training sensitivities. Powerlifting is somewhat easy to create proficiency groups for based on percentiles and weight classes. It's also a simpler sport where the only thing that matters is moving an external load from point A to point B within the confines of the rules. Calisthenics is a bit more complex with regards to judging.
Maybe because Dominik Sky has practice the Handstand since he was a kid and now his Handstand Push up is incredible Maybe because I had practice Jumping Rope since I was a kid and now my Lower Body Endurance is Beast
Well man exactly thats the point! I think what i presented here is just the representation of why specificity of training is KING. You are good at what you practice. Have a nice day 🙏🏻
I agree it is hard to assess an individual's level without deciding what should be counted. It would not be fair to take every gymnastics skill and assess even all other gymnasts that way. I did all around and felt "ok" in most and then specialized in high bar and p-bars. I think if I focused only on high bar OR p-bar then I could have ranked higher in those events. But I liked doing it all even if (specificity again!) doing everything caused me to suffer in individual events.
I used to go to the website Strengthlevel.com because they have large databases of all kinds of lifts, like deadlift, squat, bench press, pull-ups, dips, push-ups etc. They collect people's bodyweight and lifting stats, and then use a statistical distribution to come up with set goals for different levels of strength, from beginner to elite. But then I realized something. I looked at the "advanced" strength level for pull-ups at my weight at the time, and saw that it was 21 reps. And that was an ambitious but theoretically feasible goal for me to strive for. And I realized that I was at least 7 reps off my target. However, when I looked at people on RU-vid who managed 20+ pull-ups, I saw that their form was breaking down like crazy after 15 or sometimes even 10 reps. Meaning that while their first 10 or so reps may have been done with an immobile lower body and zero use of momentum, the latter reps relied more and more on kicking, kipping and throwing their neck (barely) over the bar. At that point I can hardly see how it's the same exercise. Now, I'm not saying that form breakdown during training is the worst thing in the world. Being too strict can sometimes be detrimental. But when super sloppy reps are recorded as personal bests it muddies the waters. The same thing goes with squats, for example. Are people reporting their ass-to-grass squats? Parallell? Quarter-reps? Same with front lever. Someone might report a 15 second front lever to the database, but it may look like absolute crap. Basically, it's difficult to compare yourself to the general lifting public by using large databases like these, because the lifting form is all over the place. I've abandoned the idea of chasing general strength levels, and try to look at videos of people performing strict reps instead. That way I can get a feeling for what can reasonably be achieved with strict form all the way from the first to the last repetition. The sample size is much, much smaller, but at least I know that their reps look like.
Awesome video bro! 😎 I'm wondering the connection between weighted pullup and weighted muscle up. Are there athletes with a disproportionately heavy MU compared to their 1RM Pull-up? Also to what extent does adding muscle help with weighted pullup, or could it even decrease performance? Should Cali athletes program hypertrophy and strength months apart in order to not interfere with the adaptations?
Man that's even stepping up then! Do you have some specific examples? Because that's gonna kill the whole idea, both moves are basically vertical pulls
Especially when you straighten your arm while it's parallel to the body and your hand is really near to the hip, which of course has a tremendous transfer into calisthenics straight arm strength
Yea im horrible in pull ups my max was 12 when i learned victorian on pbars (5 sec good form) after some trainings i learned front lever (17 sec good form) and victorian on pbars with 20 sec and after that i decided to test my pull ups (after the front and victorian i stop doing pull ups) and it was 20 the strenght is so weird
Hey!thanks for giving me some data.i can do 15 reps CTW hspu (nose to ground) in one set and i really was wondering if i could pull it off😅.Anyways i am looking forward to watch your future videos especially the HSPU vs OHP one😅.thanks✌.
@@FrinksmovementTV I appreciated how big he is and doing what he does. I grew to 178 cm and now 82 kg. I started life in Ukraine and feel I had lack of nutrition as young boy. Then in gymnastics I didn't eat much. After started lifting heavy weights to add muscle at age 17 I ate all the time. And then I started to grow taller. So seeing Tom do what he does is fun. My waist is 72 cm and wonder how big Tom's is. There are so many people I admire.
-> dunno how much push-ups I can do -> of course I will not go and test my max pushups, I'll just write what was a year ago :D I would be too lazy to attempt all max repetitions because there too many exercises though) The range of motion in the military press is much bigger than in handstand push-up
Yes the survey results are still not available - HOWEVER Tom is soon gonna release the video. I know he got a bit late cause unexpectedly lots of people decided to complete it ;) Thank YOU for this comment I really, really appreciate it and Im already working on a new vid. Stay tuned ;)
@@FrinksmovementTV Thanks for info. You know, it is just a little bit of positive feedback from one Pole to another ;). I know how much positive feedback is worth, especially if you are not pulling some heavy numbers. Take care mate :).
First of all thanks a bunch for keeping this channel up, the content you bring is magnificent and it helps me a lot in my progress! I have a question, the exercise that you do in this video at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="538">8:58</a>, what is is called?
@@FrinksmovementTV now thats a title also theres only a few vids on YT of it you could also talk about the reverse planche would be a interesting video as most people still think the Maltese is the hardest skill