The Sound and The Fury In-Depth Playlist: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ekpYIfRGqKw.html Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/thecodexcantina Table of Contents: 0:00 Introductions 1:10 Narration/Opening Lines 6:16 1928 Timeline 8:28 Associative Thinking 14:17 Major Milestones 18:00 Benjy Compson and Outside World 30:36 Subjective Truth
Hi, I started reading the first part, could not understand anything and went to wikipedia to see a summary. and in the wikipedia article it says the same thing. it's the best thing to take into account when reading the first part so you do not get confused. you keep track of the name of the help throught out the three periods. also benjy's name change and the he who becomes her (Quentin).
”The actions aren’t what matter, in a stream of consciousness.” I’Ve never thought of it that way, but you’re right. The...thought progression? The...mental construct? Mind map? (Idk what you would call it) provides the structure and replaces action. That seems really important to understand, when reading Benjy’s POV. AMAZING editing guys! Nice job on this.
oh god, Thank you very much! I really needed this Benjy's section took me on a rollercoaster ride for real! italic's saved me a little bit, but Quentin's section was madness...I really felt his silents and non-silent screams. your video is so helpful! hope II do well on the exam! Thank you
Love you point that Faulkner is one of the worst sources for the timeline of his own works. Great Job with this. I learned more about the timeline and I am now rethinking what I was going to say about Quentin and Caddy.
I finally got around to this after a busy week. Great job! The timeline breakdown makes sense. When we discussed the cemetery visit, I think 1913 was the earliest possible time I thought it could have been. I also just realized that I am making a video on the shift in name. Good times! I will toss that up tonight. Thanks again for sharing these thoughts on a fascinating piece of writing. Best, Jack
I had no idea at first that they were playing golf. I even wrote down what are they hitting? It is such an interesting way to tell this story. When they went from Christmas to swimming in the branch I saw that Benjy had no timeline that he followed. The way he thinks is great. Also I know I said this in the Voxer chat but I had a hard time with who was black and who was white. The way Benjy thinks does not appear to see color.
Rajathon yeah great point. I forgot to bring that up here but will make sure I do in future videos as it’s clear Quentin clearly does! Good compare and contrast
Making thru Benjy, I could track everything afterwards. But it was during the third time reading Benji that it totally fell into place and his narrative lit up the whole novel. Benji might present the true account uncolored by the lenses of his brothers.
@@TheCodeXCantina and thank you for the fabulous look at structure!!! I wonder how Dilsey's section compares in the third person. I'm not sure this is objective like Benjy. But it does encapsulate the whole tragedy. I read this novel, Gravity's Rainbow, and Absalom Absalom in a sophomore English class. It about killed me! Thanks again!
I found chapter 2 the most difficult by far my first time through. Chapter 1 was alright once you notice the italics signal a time shift. Didn't have a clue what was going in in chapter 2
this account is saving me in college when it comes to reading Faulkner. I must say... I would not mind never reading his work again 😩 As an English major, though, doubtful I will be given that blessing.
For the first reading of the first chapter I would suggest to not try to analyze the timeline at all. I strongly feel that for the first read the chapter is designed to be understood specifically through emotional perception, and let the author to put you in Benjy's shoes. I would say that the biggest genius of this chapter for me is how he presents to you the information relevant for Benjy much more clearly than anything else. You will without any problem understand what does Benjy feel towards Caddie, but you must be some sort of genius to even get that she is his sister. But that's the case. Benjy doesn't understand such things himself and you are watching the story through his eyes. So in the end, again, trust the author here and try to go along Benjy's emotions, that's just fascinating stuff. P.S. In other words, just let the idiot to tell you the story full of the sound and the fury without any point to it.
_Bravo!_ gents: What an impressive and detailed and all encompassing analysis of Faulkner and his very complex and complicated novel, thank you so much ... Faulkner says he tells us "What happened, and Why?" Well? I'm still waiting! WTF "happened" that Benny saw w Caddy & Quentin? Then, you mention "Miss Quentin," Caddy's daughter (who was born eighteen years earlier in 1910--Section Two: Miss Quentin is 17 in 1928), correct? Reading "Benji's Section" I feel as if not only am I "in his mind," but entirely inside his _body,_ all the triggered sensations etc . . . I also agree that "Benjy's Section" is just as much an "epilogue" as much as it is an _Introduction._
Well, I appreciate the kind words but certainly not all-encompassing! I think we got through 1/3 of my notes and there are plenty of angles out there not even in my notes! Crazy how deep Faulkner wrote. I'm working on our next few videos now. Yeah. I was telling Krypto he'll get a lot more info from Jason and Quentin for some of his questions.
So how many points did you score with that thumbnail shot? Looked like nothin' but net :) The asylum that Faulkner references in Jackson - the site is now University of Mississippi Medical Center (UMMC) - where I worked for 11 years before moving to Florida. 7-8 years ago, UMMC was going to clear some land to build another parking garage and uncovered a coffin. And that was just the first one - turned out to be around 4,000 - 5,000 coffins! The State of course did not want to foot the bill to exhume and relocate the coffins, so they just LEFT THEM THERE.
First time reading The sound and the fury and I’m really enjoying it so far. I’ve just finished chapter 1 and although I’m sure I’ve missed a lot from it just being my first read I did get all the time shifting. Do you guys recommend rereading chapter 1 before continuing to the second chapter or does it read better when you continue reading and after finishing the book make it a complete reread (which I intend to do). What makes for a better read? Thanks for the great video!❤
There will be more clues you can pick up on if you wait to circle back at end. It’s good to immediately reread after two for people feeling frustrated and need to get more from it if they didn’t on first pass.
Subjective truth: "What I told you was true, from a certain point of view". - Obi Wan Kenobi The Benjy section was the hardest to get through the first time I read this novel, but it's my favorite section of all. Excellent breakdown of this fun but difficult chapter. You all did not disappoint!
This was so helpful! I will definitely have to reread this chapter. This is the first video I watch, but in my opinion, the video would be better without the second host. The guy in glasses gives a fantastic explanation.
Thanks and I hope you enjoy. There are talks where I talk more and times where he does. A lot just depends on the subject matter and Faulkner tends to me my area of interest -Una aka guy with the glasses
No, that's unfortunately not out yet. We had a bit of a scheduling challenge and we have been very busy the past week so there was a delay in the release. We will hopefully have that out soon. Apologies for the order confusion.
This sounds confusing as craaap. I'm having a hard time from the outside understanding how the stream of consciousness time jumping might add more value to the presentation than the confusion in dissecting it to get there.
I think it’s partially about imitating Benjy’s experience...? Maybe? Lol. And also promoting sensational journalism by following Benjy’s associative thinking? (But this is too deep for me, so don’t quote me 😅)
Michael Knipp the layering of events meaning something to the individual is so subtle that rearranging them to be connected on sensation would be lost to me if it wasn’t organized next to each other. It’s strange for sure...
It's easier upon rereading (I.e., Section One) and, like Una said, "Benjy's Section" just as well could have been used as an epilogue, as it is now as introduction.
Dilsey's section is told from an angelic POV remembering the Compson decline. Benjy is pretty near the final chapter, since it encapsulates Dilsey's spiritual explanation, but it is not organized at all, presenting the Compson history all at once. Read it again when you're at the end.
I'm curious why y'all call Faulkner "Mr. Faulkner" but called Flannery O'Connor "Flannery." Do you guys know her better? ;) Or maybe after this in-depth analysis we can move up to calling him Bill. Hahaha. In all seriousness though, I do think this is my favorite Faulkner that I've read so far and I like to think that he gets a little kick out of slapping you in the face with a difficult chapter right off the bat, and making things confusing. That's kinda his thing, right? Krypto if you haven't read it, Flowers For Algernon is another book written from the perspective of a mentally challenged person and that book is short (I think it might be considered YA - I read it in junior high) and it's very, very good, although it will rip your heart out and stomp on it. Love the analysis here, LOVE the graphics and pictures you made - those were very cool, and the timeline was super helpful. I've read the book a couple of times but I'm going to re-read. PS have either of you read House of Leaves? I just read it this weekend and I think you would enjoy it (and I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on it... I hopefully looked thru your old videos to see if you had done a previous review). I heard someone use the term "book hangover" recently and at that point I didn't know what that was, but House of Leaves definitely gave me a book hangover. OH, and one more recommendation - short stories called The Conjure Woman by Charles Chesnutt (available for free on Gutenberg Project). They go along with the recent theme of "country smarts" and Chesnutt was a very light-skinned Black author who could pass for white (but didn't). It's a super quick read but if you wanted to check out just one, I think either of the first 2 stories in the collection are the best to start with. :)
Remarkable timing. I have an active Voxer conversation with a friend who's recommending Charles Chestnutt's short stories to me right now. I'll have to work that in. I've read Flowers for Algernon and agree that's a tearjerker. I haven't read House of Leaves.
