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it's just a waste of time and money!(the good looking culture).when I first got into the k culture I was like that! I have to be beautiful,I should not go outside since it is so sunny,always putting on makeup thinking people won't like me! actually I was so wrong. the good looking culture is a never ending process it will never make u happy.
we all live once so think its important to invest the money in important Areas(,like science research, global education, poverty etc) just look at zuckerberg,bill gates.I've never seen them wearing fancy dresses .but people respect them because they r solving the world problems.
I am not even korean, but after getting into kpop / kdrama, i have actualy started paying more attention to how i look, the condition of my skin, the clothes i wear, etc. Initially, i did not realise it( first 2 years.) one day while i was doing the oil cleanse, i started thinking if i would be doing this if i never got into korean culture? obviously, i try not to get affected by the beauty standard of any kind, (no one should) but some things do get stuck in your head. The media is indeed a very powerful brain washing tool.
hold up This happened to me too. I started taking better care of my skin after getting into Kdrama and starting to learn the language. I don't see anything wrong with improved grooming habits. And to be completely honest, I don't think there is anything wrong with taking care of yourself as a result of watching people that take care of themselves. For me, the problem starts when people try to change/alter their features to conform to a certain standard of beauty because society has made them feel like their God given looks/features are not good enough. That's when things go overboard. No one else should make you feel like the face/body you were born with is inferior because it doesn't look like theirs or their idea of beauty. I just want everyone one to know that they are their own standard of beauty and being the best version of themselves is so much more valuable that trying to look like someone else. Oh gosh 🙈didn't mean to write this much. 😔
This is happening to me too! When I first got into Kpop, I didn't really pay attention to how I look, but these days, when I look in the mirror, I'm like, 'oh my god, why is my head so big, or like why is my shoulder so wide?' or 'why is my skin so bad' etc so it's definitely toxic :(
It's interesting when they keep saying getting plastic surgery is a personal choice and shouldn't be judged. But isn't the reason for getting plastic surgery because they were being judged on their looks?
I agree with you 100%. Somebody who is satisfied with their looks wouldn't get plastic surgery. And why aren't they satistied with themselves? Because of beauty standards and the need to be loved by others. Everybody keeps saying that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder...but beauty is very objective and influenced by media.
We shouldnt judge their personal opinion, they have the money, so they do it. Its usallu people who wants to fit in. Like ppl with jaw problem like me. I have gone through alot, but from some research, i heard that in korea, looks are EVERYTHING, ppl get judge in korea if they dont have small slim face, small lips, and bridged nose. But also ppl shouldn't say korea is the country of plastic surgery, or that they are hypocrites and beautifull wannabe, im tryin to say that america does it too, just look at the breast enlargements and butt enlargements, at,east korean arent going that far.😂
Koreans were naturally soft and always tryna be soft in casual conversations. They used to soften their tone so they won't hurt others feelings and that's what i really love about them.
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned an "arbitrary beauty standard". I think plastic surgery is a personal choice but the question is who is deciding what is considered beautiful? For instance why do many Koreans think they have to get double eyelid surgery? Who decided that was more beautiful? If an inherent trait of any race has to be erased in order for someone to be considered to be attractive - then that is truly sad.
Awhol LOtta Whopass I mean that people would naturally find it attractive even without media brainwashing people since big eyes makes someone look young, cute and innocent. Looking young is considered a good thing & it's desirable. Double eyelid just makes eyes look big compare to monolid eyes.
Yonji Lim unfortunately you are right, and I find it so sad that something that's an inherent and beautiful part of being Korean like mono lids, as an example, is being "erased" simply because someone has been influenced to believe it is not attractive. I'm sure that's not always the reason someone opts for plastic surgery but it is probably one of the more common things that play into it. I'm half Asian - predominately Korean and grew up wishing my eyes looked more "Asian" because I thought that would be prettier. I guess we are all influenced to some degree into thinking that what someone else has is better than what we have...human nature I suppose.
AyAReI00 generally they prefer double eyelid but sometimes they like monolid. The only time they like monolid is if it's a handsome guy with monolid(if he has nice nose, jawline and other features & it goes well with his monolid), they rarely think a girl with monolid is pretty(even if she has beautiful nose, lips and jaw. the standard of beauty for men & women is different) and/or if the monolid eyes is big, because those exist where a person has no double eyelid but their monolid eyes are still big. Asians think those eyes are also pretty so there is some exception but generally double eyelid > monolid.
That last lady's comment was a double edge sword. She says people don't have a right to judge others for getting plastic surgery, but it's that same judgement that are sending people to the surgeons. How about ignoring all judgement? Good video.
there are people who have self-esteem and yet want to have plastic surgery. You are the one who believes that those who undergo surgery care what others say ...
@@abi1 Although it may read as if that is what I'm implying, but it's not. Sure there are some who get plastic surgery caring nothing about what others think of them, I was just referring to the ones that do.
I think it's quite sad that most of them are aware of the social pressures to conform but can do nothing but to accept it. Imagine being rejected for a job that you're qualified for just because your looks aren't up to par, what a loss of potential that would be. This whole culture of lookism in Asia needs a replacement by something spiritual instead of promoting superficiality that turn their faces beautiful but their souls grotesque.
it's not just asia... let's not forget that american girls spend an hour every day doing hair and makeup. if you just look at the prices of makeup, youd understand that people are obsessed with looks in all countries
wujing吴晶 Yeah right on the money. It is really not worth it. Personally I believe most of the women are already beautiful. Inner beauty / outer beauty is just rubbish Unless with a serious genetic deformity, like stiff jaws, cleft lip and facial injuries, most people are already beautiful
👏👏👏👏 So true. I mean there is much more than physical appearance.. like at the end one day we all will get old nd the beauty will go away.. Like im into kpop nd i love it but sometimes i feel bad because everyone is just about looks looks
Sure , ' every country is obsessed with physical appearance ' but not so much as to put societal pressure on each and everyone of their citizens to undergo surgery which permanently alter their faces . Hell , even in some fields where ' physical appearances ' shouldn't ever be a problem IS a problem in Korea . Yeah , koreans sure are ' honest ' . pfft
Even Bapmoka and Haeppy said foreigners are blowing the Korean lookism out of proportion. Clearly OP and robert lee are kyopos. They like to undermine every single part of Korean culture because they're cool and live overseas. They often misunderstand Korean culture because they've never experienced it and are quick to criticize with their eurocentric lens. People only see Korea through pop culture, that's the main issue.
It's already happening. Most female idols in the kpop industry look soo similar. Most of them have that same V- shaped jawline, small faces, small nose and double eyelids.
So true. This why most of the non kpop fans say that they all look similar..you can't even say who is who.. This was a problem for me at first..but it gradually diminished.
It still baffles me how they like small faces so much. I find some of their celebs with small faces look weird since their faces aren't proportionate with their body like a really tall person w/ long limbs and a very small face. >
@above True. Most ppl who say "small face" doesn't actually literally mean smaller than the proportionate size. It actually means more or less the normal size in contrast with larger-than-normal faces. Those who prefer disproportionately small faces like the female Sudden Attack chars just have a quirk or have a twisted sense of beauty due to having too much faith in the typical beauty standards that they're being fed their entire lives.
Honestly, is it weird that I think males with monolids look quite attractive? Like even some of the guys in this vid... I guess it depends on the eye shape and stuff. But I've seen korean male idols / actors still look really good with monolids that clearly never bothered getting surgery. (eg., Jeon Wonwoo from Seventeen and actor: Ryu Junyeol.... And their eyes are actually my favourite feature of theirs)
I guess it's a different story for females tho ._. My chinese friend told me girls dont look good with monolids unlike many guys that can pull it off 🤔🤔
Rika B. Actually Koreans do find monolid guys attractive, that's why you see a lot of monolid actors and idols but it's different when it comes to girls.
Oh I see... Yeah makes sense, I think the same thing. But at the same time bunch of males do get double eyelid surgery. So it depends on the shape of eye and face. Not all guys look good with monolids (many do though, unlike most females I guess)
No it's not weird at all, just a personal preference, everyone has them. I also think monolids are attractive and don't get why so many Koreans are obsessed with double eyelids. I think girls look good with monolids too.
I really like to monolid look too. I guess it depends on the persons overall look. But as an American I have double lids, and it sucks because I can't wear upper lid eye liner or eye shadow, because it all basically rubs off or makes a line in the crease between my lids. Monolid is better suited for that...
this video make me speechless because it got me imagining how hard the pressure to live in south korea. gladly i'm indonesian, there are so many races, religions, languages in indonesia, we are different but we are okay about that, because diversity is awesome.
I am indonesian too. Sadly, with the popularity of K drama and K pop in our country, people start to grasp Korean beauty standard as new standard in our country now....
Everything people said in the video is true. But also(In my opinion), korean society has really high standard and is really competitive. Because everyone work hard, study hard...etc. So individual's ability is similar and high. As a company they have to hire people. So inevitably they also see people's look. So people inevitably get surgery. It's just my thought.
Korea isn't the only country that works hard & studies hard. Japan has a reputation for being a country of workaholics (karoshi=death by overwork) but they're not as obsessed with plastic surgery like Koreans. The reason you gave isn't a good one.
Milla Diaz I'm not saying that it is the 'only reason'. But it is one of the reason. I don't know how Japan is like. But every country is a diffrent and complex combination of something. Korea is quite similar to Japan but also diffrent from Japan. I'm korean and I live in Korea. And me and lot of others think like that. But, it is also just thought, not the truth.
쏭지 I was told similar things by other Koreans I met and also that there usually is a lot of social pressure on people which makes them do all kinds of things to get a job. That sort of social pressure is probably the worst factor and that everyone is kind of aware of it but at the same time submits to it. I still don't believe that so many Koreans get plastic surgery. But since I don't live there I can't know for sure . . .
Yes i do agree a part in your opinion but the thing is,in korea, the society is giving you a "beauty standard" in order to tell you that you are beautiful. Yes, I dont disagree with people getting their faces done but having the reason of doing that because there is a standard to comply is just so wrong...everyone is beautiful an unique in their own way. If being beautiful means having those typical WHITE WESTERN LOOK than wouldn't the earth be so dull and boring?
MediAevum Yes, it is really sad truth.🙁 Many korean define themself by social standard. Lot of students goes to university. Because it is social standard. Young students even don't know what is their dream. They just told by parents to go to university. But not all people do. And nowdays people's perception is changing.
Surprised to see that not all koreans have that perfect skin (some people in the video are struggling with acne in their faces, which is normal). Not everything that you watch in k-dramas is true,of course and like in every country, beautiful people (with surgery or not) are on tv, the rest is just normal people.
Hillary Loves BTS and Monsta X That’s bc most of them whitewashed their skin. Before surgery they always have some dull skin- and that’s not everyone but it’s true. After all they’re Asians, so what white skin???
Its true that in a general basis, Korean people have amazing skin. Korean skincare, skin products, etc are so advanced people all around the world use Korean brand specifically. That said, its their personal choice wether or not they want to have good skin or not. Some people just dont mind having some acne for a couple of months
The fact that most of them think that the issue with plastic surgery is some kind of personal insecurity rather than a pressure imposed by society is even more depressing💔
It's confuse. They said that a good appearance is very important not only for K-pop idols but to get any job. But they also said that the oversea's people are overeacting about plastic surgery, but actually in Korea it's kind normal. In other countrys plastic surgery is unusual, even with TV stars it doesn't sound really normal. Ahh I just think that they are so insecure and need the approval of society to "be happy" and that's so sad
Korean get plastic surgery just little more than USA. www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2271134/15million-people-plastic-surgery-world-just-year--SOUTH-KOREA-leading-way.html
Joohyun Moon Instead of comparing just recognize there is an issue if someone has to get surgery to get a job and whether they really want to change thier face or if they feel like society will accept them better if they do. All I see is a finger pointing game starting of who is worse it just needs to be addressed as a serious issue in quite a few countries including south korea. the list.
It's not about insecurity. It's more about securing a better position, being ahead of others in the competitive society. To give you another example, there even is a huge private tutoring market for pre-school students where they finish off elementary & middle school academic courses in a year. Asian societies are way more competitive than western ones. So it's hard for a lot of westerners to understand it. But it definitely is something that needs to disappear some time later.
Although getting ps is a thing everywhere, getting plastic surgery on your face is a much bigger deal than for example your but, why? Because your face is unique, that's what people most see that define you. Your body parts are mostly covered always but your face is always shown, you look at the mirror and what do you see? Your face, because that's you. I think it's a personal decision whether or not to get ps, but you shouldn't have to change yourself in a unnatural way in order to survive (get a job), also getting a ps on your face is kind of in a way changing your identity and who you are
I wish Koreans wouldn't change their appearance. Especially the eyes. I think monolids are beautiful and I wish I could just shake them and tell them to wake up and see how beautiful they all are! I totally understand enhancing what you already have, I think most of us can agree, but definitely not changing what you have unless it's genuinely making you depressed as a result.
You said it in a good sense and I understand you, but we have our own beauty standards.There is no need for Korea to meet the standards of "beautiful single eyelids Asians" that foreigners (Westerners) think.What you said is like an Asian telling a white man not to tan because his white skin is beautiful.
That girl from 5:35 mark nailed it. Korean entertainment industry is so big right now, that people just look at these pretty/good looking celebrities on tv and mags everyday, that they have set ridiculously high expectations/standards Hence, more people are getting plastic surgeries to look more like those celebs. Until the 90s, plastic surgeries weren't so common in Korea and it used to be frowned upon. But I think this one particular celebrity came out in early 2000s and admitted she had some procedures done, after that the taboo/shame associated with plastic surgeries have disappeared from Korea. I know for a fact that a lot of other ppl in other Asian countries (like China, Taiwan and Japan etc) get procedures done too, but they don't talk about it at all.
This is so sad . The message bred into the people from their youth is... "Without meeting our beauty ideals you are Less Than"...and wow that's a kicker
i think it's better to stay natural and i think that doing a plastic surgery would be good only for someone who has a real problem with his face like if people look at him in a wierd way or something if that thing is really making this person not at ease then making a plastic surgery can fix that and can make the person feel better about himself and feel more acceptable in his surround.
im korean. i lives here 17years and i have 7people(just like my age 6 friends and my 25old cousin) have plastic surgery (they all do double eyelids). two friends do plastic surgery when they were 15 i was shocked..
I'm glad that this video was made. You don't know what a country is really like unless you go there and are able to spend time with the people of that country. It's like people think they know Americans by the celebrities that are promoted. Most of us, people in general, are really different than what is hyped by media.
They say the west exaggerates Korea’s beauty complex then go on to say beauty is one of the most important things in their society, and that it’s casual for TEENS to get plastic surgery.
Great interview. Really appreciate the balanced views and opinions of the people who were interview. It is true that South Korea does have one of the highest rates per capita of plastic surgeries in the world but it is also a fact that most of the procedures are undergone by foreign nationals mostly from other Asian and Eastern European countries who travel to the country because plastic surgery is cheaper there.
Meh.... the beauty stigma is a global problem, it's just that Korea takes it to a whole new level. The media no matter which country is always displaying their own perspective of beauty. Compared to Korea I don't think most around the "World" or "Western" countries will casually talk so freely of plastic surgery as the population in Korea will. Sure plastic surgery happens around the world but Korea has earned the title as the "Capital" of plastic surgery from all around the globe following the K-POP hype. I do think it's a problem because Korean social media have a ruthless reputation for calling out or starting rumors over Korean celebrities having had plastic surgery or not despite being a "Pro" plastic surgery culture. From the perspective of a resident in the US I don't mind plastic surgery as long as the person doesn't become unrecognizable. I certainly wouldn't recommend plastic surgery unless it involves a health issue or due to an accident of some sort.
한국에 성형인구가 많은것을 문제시 하면서 가져오는 주장들이 '너의 몸을 사랑해라' '사람을 판단할 때는 얼굴이 아닌 영혼은 봐라' 뭐 이런건데 지들딴에 성형 덜 한다는 외국인들 댓글만 보더라도 몇번째 뭐 입은사람 잘생겼네 여자애 얼굴 웃기네 어쩌네 저쩌네... 좋아요 얼마나 찍혔는가 보세요
그니까 그 정도가 너무 심하다고 생각하니까 비판적인 시각이 있는거지, 외모 가꾸려고 화장하고 운동하는건 별 생각 없는데 수술까지 한다하니까 너무 지나친거 아니냐, 이게 성형 비판하는 사람들 생각. 외모를 아예 안 따지는게 아니라 수술까지 하는건 그 정도가 너무 심한거 아니냐 이 소리라는거. 걍 의견 차이라 생각할거면 계속 한국은 성형으로 욕 먹고 사는거지 뭐 별수 없는거
It's interesting how they keep saying it's their choice when later questions revealed that it is in fact societal pressure after all... just shows how prevalent this beauty pressure really is there
I think Koreans go overboard. I'm Korean but grew up in the west. Some people aren't like that. That's what I appreciate. Even the most perfect in people's eyes feel uncomfortable in Korea because of Korean mentality. Sometimes I see these people who react to only looks as trash.
I don't know how you guys keep finding interesting questions to ask, but I keep coming back to watch more because the answers people give are so thoughtful.
Nice video as always, Asian Boss-- thank you! I may have an unpopular opinion (and I don't disdain other points of view), but I just find it really depressing how accepting [Korean] society is of plastic surgery. We're all brainwashed to some extent, but witnessing its effects on this level is pretty disturbing. It's amazing how "modifying" your features based on media influence is readily encouraged. Getting plastic surgery for reasons outside of injuries and birth defects is a blatant statement to low self-esteem; it bothers me that body dysmorphia is cured with artificial procedures such as this.
But it's not that big of a deal if you have or don't have double eyelids, it's not something to obsess over, I think some Koreans should be more confident in having mono eyelids ( I know a lot Koreans are confident) and sometimes when Koreans get double eyelid surgery they don't look any different/ anymore pretty......But it is their decision :)
I have to disagree, It seems like quite a few Koreans are influenced by western looks, even some Koreans have said it themselves. It probably just adds to the pressure ( Maybe it isn't pressure for some people) to see all of the Korean celebrities who look like that.
This whole video/comment section is very interesting to me: as someone from the Midwest US who's never met or known anyone with PS or cosmetic surgery aside from what's needed after an injury(most of the girls I know don't even wear makeup except for a date or job interviews lol) it's hard to get enough perspective on it to form an opinion. I know PS is VERY much looked down on here, but this is just one small part of a very large country so.......I guess it just all comes down to whether it's societal pressure or if somebody is actually doing for THEM, not just to fit someone else's standards? If that's the case I see nothing wrong with tweaking yourself a bit. But then I've always hated my nose lol😖😂 BTW it's kind of hilarious reading people from around the world's ideas your culture, some are so off! But then I'm pretty sure we're all thinking that at some of these comments, wherever we happen to be from.😊
Omg, hi ARMY!🙋 Oops that makes some ppl mad but whatever. Into guess we really are everywhere! Ikr? I guess that's what this vid s about, stereotypes. I'm from us too! Toledo. I've seen a few ppl with PS, all breast enhancements, but not many. It's a lot of $$, and then some ppl call you fake........😟 I think your right abt iit, tho, if it's for yourself not overboard, why not? But maybe I feel that way cause where I'm starting college-bye middle of nowhere town!-one of my friends got iit and she's a lot happier with herself! Ppl should mind there own business! I always click vids like these tho, they're fascination for some reason......BTW, I'm sure your nose is just fine, fam.😘
Btw are you going to college too? What major? JUst a hunch😉 Mine's business(hospitality), but sort of wish I went with Physical Therapy? If you don't wanna answer you can ignore me haha
Hey there lol! Another Yoongi-bias from the Midwest US (that's Toledo, Oh right?), awesome!! I don't even know any other girls who listen to kpop here, it's that backwoods lol! I've done 2 semesters, hadn't picked a major yet..........but, well.....then "life" happened back home, and I'm working towards, hopefully going back next year. 💩😟 Trying be positive, but it's a little hard sometimes. I'm seriously considering Psychology, I think. It's so fascinating, and I could hopefully help people along the way. You know, it sounds like you still have plenty of time to switch, do Physical Therapy if that's what you REALLY want. Do you, boo.👌 Hey, but this isn't really anything to do with the video anymore lol! If you want you can hit me up on Twt, I'd love to chat more with a fellow Army from my area! My handle: @nshade4ever. :-)
Wow, I don't what it was, maybe the questions you asked or the people you interviewed, but this video really gives a good insight about this. I really enjoyed this one.
I just realized how most people on the background hide their face or go the other direction to not be caught by the camera, like I mean idk the reason for that but if it was to be me I'd pose for it or like photobomb it unlike being ashamed of myself and hide my self, ik it's not that related but still...
I would like to see more videos on beauty standards, specifically skin color (like koreans w/ tan skin) and how they are treated. Also would be interested to see some videos about how half koreans(specifically mixed with something other than asian) are treated in terms of school and by others around them.
Every standard is different, having a standard in a specific country is fine but judging someone physically and taking all those standards in you seems to be so much. Changing your self just to fit to that standard, just so that you could get a job, just so you could be respected? No that's to much. Who the hell invented standards anyway?
First, and God knows I have no idea why I wrote this much, thanks so much for giving light to these people's perspectives and thoughts on such a complex issue. It, like every other vid I've checked on your channel, was super insightful and interesting. Now, for my thoughts. Another aspect to this that's really interesting to me is that there is certainly a culture/presence of plastic surgery in the West, so while South Korea regularly gets attention for it, I want people from the West who express judgment, pity, or otherwise look down on it to remember that. When Kylie Jenner can shoot to her current fame and mass exposure ONLY after getting enough procedures in her teenage years to look like an entirely different person (literally new face and basically new body) + scandals made possible and relevant BY that transformation (and her relationships), we have to admit to ourselves that if it's a problem, it's our problem too, just a different country and cultural context. Attraction is powerful, beauty is powerful, being treated well and advancing in society because you /look/ the part enough is powerful. Whether we like it or not, I 100% understand the push factors toward getting them. I would love for people to love the way they already look, but even makeup provides a slightly different look than our natural selves to enhance our features, so I can understand trying to make those enhancements and all the benefits that CAN come from it more permanent. Furthermore, I believe in the right to choice, so ultimately, my opinion feels like that of the girl with the red jacket and pink sweater, or the guy with the glasses and hoodie, plus or minus some extra considerations. I don't think any group of people's natural and more distinctive features that become racialized on the global stage (like monolids for certain Asian groups, tall nose bridges for white people, or full lips, noses and figures in the black diaspora) SHOULD be treated like problems, because in reality if it's not harming your life and it's natural, nothing's genuinely wrong with it, and I personally think all peoples and features can be plenty beautiful in all their variety and combinations. Unfortunately, we're far far removed from societies that run their beauty standards on what's truly natural as a rule. People in mass numbers DO subscribe to various beauty biases, and it DOES affect people's lives. Attractive people are treated better and "unattractive", with some exceptions, are not. With that in mind, plastic surgery or beauty enhancement procedures are almost like an investment in your own social standing and personal confidence in your body image. Actually, many times they flat out are. So again, I defend that it's a personal choice and I can understand why others do it, but my hope is for a world where we aren't so strict on our guidelines for what can be beautiful or attractive, that we can all, regardless of what we look like naturally, navigate throughout the world feeling comfortable in our physical form, therefore helping out our mental too. Not everyone has the option to get this stuff done, or even wants to, so should they just...hate themselves for not having the body enhancements of an instagram model or the face of an idol? My hope is a future where the answer is no. Alright, if anyone read to the end of this, you're the goat.
I wonder how they recognize each other Like 6 bomb grp they all look same to me After knowing that many korean undergo plastic surgery I stopped watching kdramas even chinese Dramas Because they made me feel uncomfortable about my looks And even same things happen again and again So started watching bollywood movies and (serial like tmkoc) They represent many social problems, moral values, comedy , dance , music India is just awesome I hope in my second life also I want to be in india I can recommend you many movies like 3 idiots, dangal , 102 not out , secret superstar, padman etc
Differences in cultures and features in our faces is what makes this world beautiful like how Asian people have mono lids I honestly as a non Asian think it's such a beautiful feature or how black people have darker skin imagine if we all looked the same? How boring would that be? Let's just learn to love how we look...
Im admiring those people who secure enough with their face without plastic surgery eventhough it might not meeting up the korean standars. There lots of kpop idols and artist that are not open about the plastic surgery they had...meaning there is a distinct in korean society itself.
wow! this is just so surprising. I've always grew up believing to cherish and love what the mighty above has given you. Of course there was a point in your life most especially when you are in high school thinking how you look. but other than not to the extent that it would affect your work, friends how society would look at you and etc. the root of this mentality is insecurities, bullying. my friends would always bully each other that "you're so ugly", 'what the heck are you wearing?" "you're so black i can't see you in the dark" "you're so pale did you eat?" and stuff like that but it doesn't really bother us. I guess loving yourself and knowing yourself makes you to be able to deal with these kind of things..
it's not that we think all koreans do plastic surgery, but we assume all korean celebrities do it, which creates an unrealistic beauty standard for viewers and I think for many korean teenagers too. Another thing that also bothers me is they always use brightening filter to edit or white wash faces in dramas, or pictures of kpop idols taken by fans
Your comment is so wrong. Even when they hadn't ps, would you call them ugly? O.o I know what you mean but to use 'ugly' on people without plastic surgery..
Min Suga the Genius Turtle but it's the truth though. their children would just have to end up getting plastic surgery, and this will go on forever, which is plain sad. hopefully they won't and stop this whole plastic surgery thing.
getting ps to achieve your dreams? isnt that kind of just "the easy way out". If you're feeling insecure because of certain PERSONAL reasons, and if getting PS is something you want then do it for YOU and not anyone else, but if its just to be a kpop star/to get a job..... then i personally wouldnt do it. I would want to be true to myself. I would want to for example become a idol for my TALENTS not because of my looks. At the end of the day, when i plug my earplugs in and listen to a song, i dont think about the face of the person who sings that song, but the actual voice. Kind of sad how this kpop culture makes someone think that they have to get PS to be a star???.. and the "medical technology exicts so why not?" argument really triggered me.. lol. Just because you can, doesnt mean you always should. Also the thing I find weird is that in Europe, people usually get PS for themselves, to make themselves feel better, not because they feel like they HAVE to because of a certain job/ just to get a certain job. It ain't that normal here to hear someone say "oh I got PS because I wanted to get this or that job".. sounds a little bit odd to be honest, but hey- cultural differences:) Listen to Pretty Hurts- Beyonce, and then you may understand what i'm saying better-> "its the soul that needs surgery"
I see what you are saying, but I love the honesty in this video. I would like yo say that I wouldn't do it, but if I was insanely talented and the only thing holding me back was thay my nose was too round or my eye's were not big enough... I really don't know what I would do.
"Easy way out" sounds pretty good to me. But plastic surgery is not the easy way out. It's so common that it's not even regarded as an easy way out. It's literally a beauty staple like makeup and fashion. My idea of "easy way out" is the way out of the herd mentality. The idol entertainment is not just auditory but also a visual entertainment. Not expecting looks to dominate one's music career is your own standard for a music industry. The reality is that the visual aspect is just as important as the auditory aspect. And looks is part of the visual entertainment, along with fashion, music video, choreo, etc.. That's what K-pop is right now.
I'm sooo glad you as a Korean RU-vidr spoke up about this. This misconception that every Korean has received plastic surgery bothers me so much. It is blown way out of proportion.
south koreans really dont want to be judge abt their plastic thing or their choice, in simple words they want respect but on the other part they hate black or brown complexion xd!! esp southeast asian countries. they r really looking down on the ppl of that countries. even the accents, way of life, etc. they think they r superior now as kpop goes bigger n bigger. little they did now they also have a lot disappointments and flaws, im not gonna talk abt that cause i know u know.
좁은 땅덩어리에, 자본도 없는 나라에서 살아남으려면 어떻게 해야겠나? 간단한 결론아닌가? 모든게 경쟁화 되는거다 학력부터 시작해서 , 집안, 자본, 성격, 행동 , 직업 하나하나 모든게 비교를 위한 수단이다 여기는 상위권이 아니라면 '낙오자' 라고 낙인찍히는 나라다 따라오지 못하면 '다르다' 라고 하는게 아니라' 틀렸다' 라고 말한다. 모든게 경쟁화 되면서 자연스레 '외모' 라는것도 상위권이 아니면 국내에서 살아남을수가 없기 때문이다 모든게 경쟁이고 이미 경쟁에 물들여져있어서 경쟁이 일상화 되어있다 그래서 빨리빨리 행동할수밖에 없고, 야근이 당연시되고, 스낵컬쳐가 흥행하는것이다 요즘 사람들은 서로 내면을 알아갈만큼 오랜 관계를 만들지 않는다. 그냥 바쁘기 때문이다. 길게 대화를 하지 않는다. 그러니 자연스럽게, 부각되는건 외모다 외모가 예쁘면 대부분의 것들은 해결된다 외모가 예쁘면 50%는 성공했다고 봐도 무방하다.
Although I agree that it's one people's choice to get surgery, as said later in the video, it cannot be called an "individual choice", since it's highly influenced by the media and the pressure on appearence in the society. That's what always make me unconfortable with plastic surgery in Korea. It cannot be compared with plastic surgery in other countries, especially when double eyelid surgery is not considered as plastic surgery by highschoolers (!). And that also means mono eyelids are not considered beautiful in Korean society, which I think is a shame. Even though appearance may always be important in Korean society, I hope someday it goes out of fashion.
the fact that they actually acknowledge how the society judge them by their looks, and they just play along with it.. eventually if they are offered to get plastic surgery, they would agree just to be in their dream (idol group)
@Miranda lambert the person who is undergoing surgery will pay obviously but y do they look down on coloured race , even I'm indian nd a person with dusky complexion . U go and under the knife r not ur choice
@@anaidaarun8833 Don't feel bad if you are indian, you are the prettiest in the Asian community. They may insult you guys but the rest of the world prefers you
I like Indian people, too. Even if Koreans want to make their skin white, it is medically impossible. It's just your natural skin tone when you're born. In Korea, there are people with white skin and people with dark skin. Basically, East Asian skin color is brighter than yellow. Some of my friends have very white skin color, and if people think it's artificial, my friend will be sad. I have a pretty dark skin color for a Korean, but I've never heard that from my friends or people around me, 'How about making your skin color white?' Just as some K-pop idols have exceptionally white skin, some Koreans have exceptionally white skin and others don't.
Plastic surgery is fine, but to erase ethnic features is weird.. because plastic surgery won't change the genes of those ethnic features and if you have Children, they'll be passed on.
What a frank and insightful discussion. It's great to have these voices out there. I like how most of them brought it back to diplomatic reasoning : it's a personal choice, who are we to judge others? That's refreshing seeing as what the media tends to circle when it comes to Koreans is overzealous K-netz and society. Seems like the younger generation are opening up to being less reserved and judgemental.
I guess the key word is survival. In a society where your looks give you a job and better opportunities , there is no choice but use plastic surgery. It is sad, that the value of a human being is based only in your looks. thanks asian boss to talk about a reality that is around us.
1) i could never see how they consider small face as one of the beauty mark 2) i don't care if they do plastic surgery but if they're confident about it why hide it ?
AlmightyM hence no confidence..... Jessie of lucky J said it proudly.... if someone did it to please the public opinion of beauty then they'll fear judgment....
keira jacob in Asian countries, where they have typically shorter or smaller bodies, the head appears larger in proportion to the rest of the body. And in Korea especially, after having been there, I can understand it is truly a concern for some people... because the large head thing I think is genetic, and it's a legitimate concern I think for some people because it really makes them stand out. I'm not saying that to be mean, but genetically you can see the difference in certain groups, sothere's a reason they tend to see themselves or feel that way. And while I was there, there were quite a few Koreans that I saw that really do have a larger head in proportion to the rest of the body. Of course it's not all Koreans. You don't typically see those people, or the much larger built Koreans on TV and in interviews like this. But if you were to go, it is noticeable, those who seem to have that difference in their genetics. Kind of like the difference between seeing a child with Down Syndrome verses a child without Down syndrome. It's got to be something genetically different. Because in the facial structure as well, not just the size of the head, there are similarities, that must link them to a specific genetic group or something.
Ayyyyy playing with fire playing in the background at around 3:40 🙌🏼 I noticed that after getting a bit into kpop, I started being much more concerned with my skin and have subscribed to Korean beauty boxes, purchased Korean bursts products, watched Korean beauty videos, etc and while my skin has improved I don't think I would've gotten into any of this if it weren't for my interest into kpop. I'll even look at myself and be like "I need a smaller nose" "I want a more v like shaped face" "I'm okay with my pale skin but it could be a bit more whiter (even though 2-3 months ago I wanted to be much more tan)" "I need to really really really slim down maybe I'll try a kpop diet to lose weight like some celebs" and it's definitely not completely healthy and as for the plastic surgery I feel like most, if not every country has something like that in the United States instead of plastic surgery we pile on makeup and has all of these makeup trends going on with the instagram brows, highlighting, Kylie Jenner lips, cut crease eyeshadow, etc like makeup in the United States is to plastic surgery in Korea at least that's how I currently see it
I'm Filipina and my siblings and relatives have pretty eyes..double eyelids and thick eyelashes. I also don't find smaller eyes attractive. But after watching Korean drama, I was so obsessed with their beauty especially the men... Now iI find their eyes are really attractive..
I'm not against plastic surgeries cause I want to have plastic surgeries myself because I'm insecure of how I look... It depends on the person and if that person has money for it then go for it.
If you're even looking into ps in the first place, please do yourself a favor and do some intensive, thorough research before foolishly altering anything on your face permanently. Money is not the critical factor. Some of the wealthiest people in the world hasn't gotten any cosmetic surgery, while some people go to extents to borrowing money to get something done. I used to be insecure, too, about a lot of things in life. It was only later that I realized that it doesn't actually affect my life in any apparent way if I stop being dramatic and emo about it. Humans strive for improvements. It's natural to be insecure. It is what fuels our anxiety. And that anxiety is the sense of fear that drives us to change. But be on the lookout for deception. By cynical of that fear. Each individuals have their own ideas of improvement. So don't be so easily convinced by other people's opinions and standards, be it the opinions of the netizens or the entertainment trends, as their opinions might not be as superior as you might think they are.
To all Asian people and Koreans : I think that you all are unique and you don’t need for example double-eyelid or whatever surgery , cause men , you are really beautiful race as you are )))))) And to everybody: value your distinctive features and have a good day 👍😏❤️❤️❤️
I just hate how people diss you for certain parts of your body and then diss you if you try to cover or "fix" those flaws. It's even worse when It's with something that people can't change or would suffer a lot to change, like the size of your legs, the width of your shoulders, your lip shape or how big is your skull. Like, If you're not willing to give me a way and the money to fckn reshape myself just to please your eyes, then shut your mouth and go do something else with the rest of your life span
A lot of Asians and Westerners including hollywood stars are getting plastic surgery like nose job, boobs and hip etc.. I dont understand why only korea is blamed for plastic surgery. It happens all over the world. Also I have to mention that there are tons of people who do not getting plastic surgery in Korea. And a majority people who called "star" in every countries get PS because appealing appearance can make stars famous. And i want to ask that will you blame westerners who done PS their boobs for they have same feature of boobs? Every kpop girl or boy groups have a very different face feature even thought they might get a PS. if you cant tell apart them by their looks, it means that your eyes have problems. They dont want to look same, they just wanna look pretty/hansome
i think, the focus is less on the stars, but mainly on the average korean citizien, who feels insecure and gets surgery. as you should know, the west is a country that at least idealistically differenciates from other parts of the world by praising individuality. so, south korea on the flipchart, if we narrow it down to plastic surgery, is decreasing the physical individuality. maybe it sounds not proper to you, but thats pretty much the core.
smart water, the US has the highest number because they have more people, statically it's going to be more likely here. But south Korea has a higher percentage of citizens that have had plastic surgery.
Michael Kimble No shit south korea is like size of Hawaii more rich people are populated in one area it just that they're many poor people who cant afford it and again US still surpasses korea in total number it still proves my point
I would like to hear these questions being answered by the few that have gotten plastic surgery. I want to know where they stand. But this video was awesome. I love this channel!
3:53 "I happen to think it's an individual choice that shouldn't be controversial." This is such a peaceful answer. If everyone thought like that ("its everyone own choice, and does not harm me, so its not my business") the world would be a bit more safe to life.
The competitiveness there is huge. So many people receive good education, so the only thing setting them apart from other candidates when applying for a job is their appearance...
