What Makes Steve So Difficult? 

Steve really shines when he is played aggressively, it's a very important thing to note when discussing how difficult he is because playing an aggressive style and playing a SMART aggressive style are 2 very different things. You gotta know when to go in and you gotta know when to lay off and bait the panic hopkick, it's a skill on it's own.

I love playing against Steve players. As a Yoshi loyalist I’ve never really tried playing him, but whenever I lose to a Steve I know they actually earned it, and will never get salty.

First character I learnt, and now every other character just isn’t nearly as satisfying to play

As a Steve main I thank you for finally explaining why Steve is so hard to play. People often have no idea and call him easy or cheap, but they never even tried him out. Very good video, you mentioned all the important points. For me it's what makes me keep playing this character: his difficulty. He is very demanding, but damn, it's so rewarding and satisfying when you do win.

Why all of the interesting characters are so hard :(

Being a fan of boxing and watching Steves animations is just fantastic, he pays homage to Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson with his two stances, peekaboo and flicker. The developers really put a lot of love and care into him.

Thats a good way of describing steve honestly, he's more of a hound character that tries to fog the flow chart of the opponent with pokes and then gets rewarded with safe counter hit launchers once the opponent gets impatient enough.

Bro I’m a pretty new tekken player, i have been playing since August 2017. I picked Steve and went from literally no tekken experience to seiryu. And I still get all the hate from tekken PS4 community. Damn katarina,noctis players telling me how I am cheap.

As a guy who loves boxing and combat sports. Steve is programmed soooo welllll. I have never played this game and all of a sudden i was demolishing my friend who has over 1000+ games with steve vs steve. It was my boxing instinct that helped me. Like use the jab more etcetera. I love steve and i have bought the game myself now

Picking up the more technical characters brings out the best of my abilities in a fighting game. Same goes for Akira in VF. I will always be a Steve and Akira main. They are both incredibly satisfying

2:25 it’s so weird seeing Steve kick

What makes steve so difficult? deciding whether or not to b1

Steve is one of my absolute favorite characters in all of fighting games, and learning hin since the days of Tekken 5 has been rewarding. He's such an eccentric character to play and it feels so rewarding to even just land his EXT FDCK2 unblockable.

Steve is difficult if you can’t mix-up for different play styles. Coming up against characters that primarily have low aggressive play styles and punishing launches are the bane of my very existence.

In my opinion you have to play mind games with the opponent and be aggressive in order to win with Steve. In most matches I find that if you counter hit quite a few of your opponents moves this leads them to turtle more because they don't want to eat a combo. When this happens I put pressure with peek a boo and flicker. Also thing to note is if you're in peek a boo and you feel like they re about to press a button pressing 2 will punish them

I think every Tekken character should be designed in the same fashion as Steve, in the sense that he's very unique without generic stuff shared by other characters. I say this because I really want them to do away with generic hopkicks and df2 uppercut launchers. I think launchers shouldn't be so abusable like hopkicks. Just look at Steve, Bryan, Dragunov, Kaz, Heihachi etc. Great characters that rely solely on their own unique tools. I think hopkicks are antiquated and should be replaced, especially because they can lead to massive damage at the cost of what? A 12 frame punish? Not to mention they look awkward and janky aesthetic wise. And it'll also mitigate the juggle fest that Tekken has become and turns many newer players off. We'll see far more footsies and neutral play. Every character should have their own unique answers to 15f punish. Launchers would be slower, requiring you to either telegraph or anticipate in using them, making those reads and the follow up combo actually rare but also impressive for once. Some combos are tuff sure, but they get old real fast, Tekken should be "toe to toe" not "who can dribble a basketball better".

Steve kazama

Imo, Steve Fox and Lee Chaolan are harder and tougher characters to master compared to Hwoarang.

That's so true I'm Genbu with Steve you have to rely a lot on counter hit and if the openent don't come at you you have to poke him but Steve is not god tier at poking

i asked you yesterday for steve, and on top of that you said it "you need the opponent to dance with you" and THAT'S IT! im from Argentina, Buenos Aires, the place in which Tango was created!!! and as you said "it takes 2 to dance tango" PERFECT COMMENT FROM YOU!

Steve lost his "advantage" in Tekken 7 due to the nerfed general movement in the game. I'll still relearn him eventually...

While Steve does not have the frames to really launch punish that well, it is pretty easy to sneak in launches with counter hits and with his 4,1,2. I find that the most difficult part of Steve is learning how to mix up everything with his duck game. Albatros into Peekaboo is pretty straight forward for when you need to close the distance and still mix things up. I will say that Steve is probably the most range dependent character in the game next to Hwoarang. He needs to be right up close to really be a threat with his duck game and Peekaboo. Albatross is fancy but its easy to see the mix ups from it. If you keep Steve at mid range with lots of mids and you never side step, its pretty hard for the Steve player make things happen. He is pretty much waiting for counter hits at that point.

Is it because he can't kick :(

Steve's been my main since T5. I was blown away how unique he was and haven't dropped him since. Hopefully you do a Nina video at some point. She's my other main as well and she is SO hard to play.

why steve is so difficult? easy, he has too many stances for me to memorize and utilize. i give props to all players who can play him

Im a steve player and I really just have 1 combo but I mastered how to dodge thus making this character very satisfying dodging like 70-90% off the opponents attack is damn satisfying for your end and very mentally exhausting for the opponent

I remember starting off in tekken last year and not knowing who to really focus on. At first i chose Paul because he just looked cool, that was it, then I learned how OP he was at times and it soured me from playing him, (i saw the damage from death fist) and then I looked around and I saw a boxer was a character I could play and I really enjoyed boxing so I figured he’d be cool. I had no idea what I got myself into but now my execution with Steve is great and I’m really happy with my choice.

Nice. Steve is my main favorite character, and it pretty much touches the basics of why he is a difficult character

I played a lot of tekken back in the day (never got good), stopped after 5, started picking up boxing recently, remembered Steve, bought tekken 7 (great decision). I am bad at fighting games, so this might be a bad decision. But I really want to learn Steve to the best of my abilities. He is so much fun to play as.

0:20 *Mr Steve Fox*

May as well just make a "What makes Tekken so hard" video (except Noctis???).

I think these videos are helping a lot TMM, thank you for covering Steve. You know often time people that play gimmicky characters that have a lot of bullshit think that people like me are being hateful when I refuse to give them the same respect as people that use some of these challenging characters. I'm not saying that people that use those characters cannot be skilled in their own right, but I'm just not going to say that those characters are just as challenging as my character if it's a lie. Use whatever character you like, but be willing to admit an easier character is easier. That's why easy and difficult characters exist. I don't believe in using the difficulty as an excuse or crutch for when you lose, because you take that on when you choose them, however don't disrespect the fact that the effort we both put in is not equal. Some characters are easier than others and some characters have more tools.

Steve is awesome

Thanks for the recognish TMM. Can’t tell you how much shit I catch for playing Steve and it’s nice to hear somebody actually explain the difficulty of the character.

I feel like a few of Steve’s tools are quite similar to King’s. B1 CH launcher, slow while rising launcher, df2 not a classic launcher, not the best lows. You really have to be smart with your offense for both characters. I’d be curious to hear TMM’s thing for King

The way steve fights puts horror on opponents face i am a lee and steve player btw both are my first characters and boy i am dumb choosing them at first but nothing gives me more satisfaction than winning with steve and lee chaolan their difficulty is what i love.

he was complicated and had high reward in return that was amazing

im gonna be the best steve in the world , remember my name

You know that you’re fucked up when Steve launches a whiff punish SHURYUUKEN

Been a Steve main since tekken 5. He took a while to get used to and he was a major go to in 6 along with baek. However his sways come in handy, along with his power hits. It’s good to know his entire movelist. My friends hate when I play him or King. That peek a boo stance shouldn’t be taken lightly when pros know how to utilize it. But the way you play him on top of his speed, really kicks ass. I read player movements. I haven’t played in months but I had always wanted to go into a tournament.

As a boxer in real life, playing Steve I rely on intuition on the opponent's next move. By being aggressive then when you sense there counter attack you can duck or move based off your matchup knowledge

i fell in love with this channel man wow

Waiting on that "What Makes Nina so Difficult"

4:08 - Facts. As a Steve main I approve, it's always a pleasant surprise to bump into another Steve and see much different strats and play-style. May the best Steve win :)

one amazing advantage steve has is the side step to side sway combo, immediately puts you behind opponents on big whiffs faster than any normal sidestep, its a guaranteed PAB combo from there.. some things i dont like about steve now is they removed some stuns from counterhits (albatross + 2(mid), and also the ff2 str8 cross punch(high). b2 is great for counterhits but its only high. also before you can pull off an albatross from a 121 combo, there's a slight delay now.

I remember taisei now An Amazing Steve Player

He’s my favourite character used him since tekken 4 the truck for me is ALWAYS close the distance it works well for me and mix it up ALOT try not to do the same thing twice and be patient don’t mash the buttons if your up against the wall because he is the worst character to do that with you need to know exactly what your doing with him don’t try massive combos just keep chipping away and work on your defence

One thing thats Missing is you can Make a Lot of his save With f3 or 4 and cancel it With db its also is great for pressure because you can easily switch into peek-a-boo With a df2 like that or to a whilst standing 1 or 1,2

I've played Steve for at least a week now, so ask me anything you want to know about him

I'm terrible at Steve and can play much better with Drag and Paul, but something about steve is rewarding

The thing with Steve is that he has too many high moves and no fast and damaging mids His execution is tough and I am okay with that, but not having any decent fast launchers and only having to rely on b1 and df2, makes it disappointing to play him. And then they nerfed df2 LOL

Been a Tekken OG since T3! Eddy, Lei, and Hworang were my guys, but then T4 came out and I’ve been using Steve ever since 🔥💯

I love playing against Steve. I feel he is easy as hell to beat. I use feng and king and both are vanquishers so those Steve’s must be good as well but he is really easy to beat by not being aggressive

As a Steve main, I don't actually find him all that hard. He's just unorthodox. I started off with Drag, a very generic pressure character, but I was truly raised with Steve. When I say he's not hard, I basically just mean execution... I have a harder time deciding whether or not to df2 than doing his extdck1 combo... Whatever, roast my elitist ass proudly.

Steve has that drop kick And his moves are designed to combo and run together. Beat up you opponent like in boxing

Loving this series Mainman!

90% of the twitch chat "hi youtube". Hehehe I'm so smart I can use my historical logic to predict when a clip will be on youtube.

Replying to an old-ass video but, Steve is extremly situational.. you can rush but at the same time you have to switch to defense simultaniously. THE hardest character in the game IMO..

Boxing is difficult But worth it

2:16 this is much shlower xD

You should do one of Eliza. Lol. I’ll donate $20 if you do. Eliza is kind of trash and depends on a players knowledge of the cast to punish. Instant Dive kicks are important for wake up pressure. 1, dp2 is crucial for punishing -10 thru -13 frame moves. I could say more but we all know how you feel about the character. Lol

Jeeeeez the haircut xD

**shh shh one two intensifes**

As a noob Steve I can confirm that he excels at pressure. The only things I need for steve is counter hit combos and stop pressing so many buttons. I actually get counter hit a lot lmao

Wow I have tekken 5 and his df2 is a launcher

Who would’ve thought a character that only punches in Tekken would be so difficult to learn? 🤔

Hmm tbh hearing this He is a save characters makes me want to learn something :g. Usually when playing Lee it takes not counter hit launchers to beat me out of HMS. Yet while play against Steve every single down 3 makes him Fall down if He is in PKB stance. Or Just as I recon it. Do not See him that often. Does getting a hit during a stance with counter hit moves count as they hit you during an attack?

The besst charecter

if you're on your journey to play steve, prepare to have sore hands haha especially on pad

More steve please 😁

Where is all this great music coming from?!? I can’t find it at all. BTW huge fan been loving all the content for so long!!!!

He’s a boxer of course he doesn’t kick.

I'm trying to learn how to play Steve. But i don't really play Tekken 7. I'm practicing on a Tekken 6 Emulator. But i don't think Steve will be not to hard to master. But i don't know how to combo yet

Fuck.... I want subs and cheeseburgers after watching this

Steve is difficult to use? I thought I was getting the hang of him pretty easily. Good thing I know before going online.

When we gonna see TheMainBaby?

Awesome series

I dont cate if steve is really difficult. What made want to play him is because of how satisfying it is to play him especially everytime i hit b+1 i orgasm

i dropped steve due to the fact that i feel he used his left too much

@themainmanswe hey bro love your vid . btw can u teach me how to do the steve dash?? and also how to do the instant FC df+1.. mine was slower can u put the correct notation?

Maybe Yoshi next time?

I think the technical executions isn't a problem for Steve you just have to get used to it. Even with 3 or below bars most of the time it's still manageable unlike Lee. The most difficult part is probably utilizing all of his stances for good pressure and not only PAB stance.

I'm pretty average, but in my opinion it's his tool box. Bad lows, no reliable launchers, mediocre range. Smart pressure and counter hits are his main weapons. His mix up is very easily interrupted with mid pokes. I am big fan of Steve and his boxing oriented style, but he could use more tools.

steve is the hardest by far!

steve may be hard but b1 into flicker is a safe, -1 on block ch launcher at i13 frames. even if you duck that move you can’t punish him and dont even try it on whiff. that move is just cheap

I get why he's hard I just wanna know why everyone puts him at the top of the tier list. I want a video on why steve is so good

Geese maybe? Or gigas?

I really wish steve was like hwo, a poke heavy character where you dont want them to get their offense going so you constantly hopkick

what is the music in the background?

I'm a steve player, thank you 4 the respect

Steve difficult ? He is one of the most rewarding character to learn, which is why I have been using him since T5. His b+1 and DCK cancel is so fun to abuse..LOL

As a Nina player, I would think we should be given credit as well. We would appreciate it.

The fact that steves d21 high crushes is one of the dumbest things on any character ever. Dude is still sooooo overpowered

Doesnt steve have a while rising 1+2 launcher

Do Yoshi

Thanks, man.

Memorization and Execution. Its overwhelming to learn him but hes one of the most fun characters to play. Everybody can play and mash buttons with him but only a rare percentage can pull out a full combo or avoid mashing punches in a round.

Great. Do Master Raven next

Nothing is more awkward than a Steve player turtling, like they are setting themselves up for failure lol.

Hes completely forgotten that back 2 launches and isnt that slow