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What Materials Should You Use For Filling Steps? - Landscaping Stair Boxes 

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www.homebuildin... Click on this link for more information about landscaping stairs and other stair construction projects. Here's another problem I've noticed and that's whether or not an exterior landscaping type stairway built out of individual wood boxes should be filled with soil, gravel or concrete. Again, don't forget to visit the website for more ideas.

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@mattuf22
@mattuf22 2 года назад
Just what I needed to watch for my project
@ghshomeimprovements
@ghshomeimprovements 5 лет назад
This video is very good thank you very much. I have been remodeling homes for such a long time but never in my life had to build outdoor stairs towards lake. I own cabin in Vermont and now it time I definitely will use this method with concrete plus a rebar. Again thank you
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 5 лет назад
You are more than welcome glad you got to learn something new.
@gmcjetpilot
@gmcjetpilot 3 года назад
Here is an idea.... Gravel is fine. Wear shoes and don't run up them. Another thought go ALL concrete and forget the wood (except forms). Or just make it all from wood...
@lynnreid9739
@lynnreid9739 4 года назад
I also don’t want a steep rise on each step because I bring stuff out of my shed like wheelbarrows and such.
@JulieHaege
@JulieHaege 4 месяца назад
I have a question. I want to build stairs into the side of a sloping hill. Do you know if I use anything underneath the stair box? Also, would it be possible to add rock, soil, and ground cover for a living type step?
@wskripka1
@wskripka1 5 дней назад
Put the wood treds on top of the boxes ?
@captaincoyote1792
@captaincoyote1792 Год назад
How many years would you get out of “wooden boxes”. Eventually, they’ll rot….maybe that’s a stupid thought. But while I can see doing this once…a lot of work…I’d rather not do it twice! Great video, though…your explanation and graphics? Bravo-Zulu, excellent! Well done!
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
It will depend on your weather, more rain and snow, could make the wood rot faster.
@louisdanes3662
@louisdanes3662 3 года назад
What is the best fill for freezing weather with snow and ice? Thanks for your presentations!
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 года назад
If I was to guess and keep in mind that I'm only guessing, because I don't have a lot of experience with freezing ground temperatures that will move most of these materials, I would pick gravel, with an understanding that the stairway might require yearly maintenance.
@nickwit21
@nickwit21 5 лет назад
This along with the rise and run video was very helpful. I'm attempting to build a dry stack walkway down to a customers dock. Thinking of using 4x8x16 concrete blocks as the base, backfilled with paver base then finally topped with paver sand and a 2ft x 2ft slate stepping stone. Do you have any suggestion. Customer wants it cheap and quick! Its a rebuild of existing stepping stones layed in dirt. Thanks again!
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 5 лет назад
I would probably need to see a picture of what you're trying to do, before commenting. However, if everything you are going to assemble will remain stable and create a flat surface for the steps, then you should be okay. Filling steps with gravel or other materials that can move aren't always going to be the safest stairs.
@amjadjaki
@amjadjaki Год назад
I am using 6x 6 pressure treated wood. Only concern about risers hights. As 6” will be enough for building code or what should I do?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
Most building codes allow for between 4 and 7 inches for risers.
@bus6503
@bus6503 5 лет назад
I've walked on stairs like this and I'm not a fan. One set with sand and another w/ gravel. Generally, I'm not a fan of this style because of the potential for a 'lip' developing on a step and that seems like a major safety hazard. I found myself walking up and down the steps like I would stones across a stream...asking myself "where's the stable footing?" Thanks for the videos!
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 5 лет назад
Excellent points
@michaelking42
@michaelking42 5 лет назад
Excellent video thank you! Would you lay the wood directly on the soil, or put plastic sheet down first? Or use ground contact PT wood?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 5 лет назад
For something like this ground rated pressure treated lumber would work best. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TheW4lynSkk.html
@sarahfisher5304
@sarahfisher5304 3 года назад
Could you elaborate more on how to make a drainage system for the bottom stair? I was thinking I could put stones underneath the bottom plant to act as "weep holes" for the stair, but I wasn't sure if there was a better way.
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 года назад
A drain at the bottom could create a soil erosion problem, but I will add your suggestion to our future videos.
@duncan359
@duncan359 Год назад
should you put weeping holse in the bottom of the bottom stair? Or would the gravel underneath be enough drainage?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
A site drainage system might be better.
@jokayehighstrete4091
@jokayehighstrete4091 2 года назад
I am interested in the stair boxes using wood frames and concrete. We have a rather steep hill down to the water where we keep a boat in the summer. I need to find something simple and rustic like the wood frames and concrete. Due to the grade do we need to anchor it using poles sunk in concrete. Or your suggestion for keeping it in place. I need this info to show to a handy man to build for me. I will need a rail also and thought a metal pole rail would probably work the best and just sink it into concrete. Any thoughts
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 2 года назад
Email me a picture of the problem area where stairs need to be built.
@vinhgolf
@vinhgolf Год назад
great video. very easy to follow. I am wondering about stack these boxes, do you anchor it at each step on the edge so make more secure? thank you
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
Yes, anchor and secure.
@vinhgolf
@vinhgolf Год назад
@@stairbuilding do you have a video that show to anchor it? i see people drill a hole and hammer a re-bar to connect the step together
@tammypetrick5468
@tammypetrick5468 4 года назад
Thanks for the great videos. The question I have is we had a retaining wall built on a slope, my husband decided he wants a ramp instead of stairs. our garden supply shed will be the bottom. I can find no videos on an outdoor ramp. Is it even possible? right with nothing there we are losing all the dirt right down this open space. Thanks for any advice!!!
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
You can email me some pictures of your project and I'll see if I can provide you with any information. You can get our email address at our website.
@radarriau
@radarriau 4 года назад
Most landscape architects prefer 6 foot rise or less because peoples eyes wander outside the run depends on stride & should be more than 11 for a 6 inch rise. Decomposed granite compressed properly perks well enough for residential traffic.
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
I'm guessing that you meant a 6 inch individual riser height and I've actually slipped on wet decomposed granite.
@WayneDuggan
@WayneDuggan 2 года назад
Thank you very much.great info
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 2 года назад
Very welcome
@katrinawright7590
@katrinawright7590 3 года назад
What would something like this cost?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 года назад
You would need to contact a contractor in your area for that information.
@gslife1
@gslife1 4 года назад
Love this video. Thanks
@user-fe1db9xt2f
@user-fe1db9xt2f Год назад
i want your opinion on step by step to build steps. I'm always trying DIY
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
It might be easier than doing all of the math and if you don't need to end the stairs at a specific level or height.
@atomsapple1
@atomsapple1 Год назад
What about filling them with dirt and soil and planting a high traffic grass seed? That’s what I thought of doing next year on the side of my house.
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
I don't really like the idea of watering the stairs to get the grass to grow, but don't see why your suggestion would not provide another possibility.
@suzannewatson4101
@suzannewatson4101 Год назад
If doing this in Canada does the cement still work or are we concerned for the frost line ?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding Год назад
Concrete might not work in cold climates.
@shizzydeep6867
@shizzydeep6867 5 лет назад
Do you have any information / videos on building natural stone steps into a slope like this? I can't find any videos that show how to lay the gravel or crushed stone base the stones sit on and how to integrate them into the slope. I know how to calculate the number of steps I would need but I cant find info on actually laying the stones on the slope itself.
@KiranKumarBostonian
@KiranKumarBostonian 5 лет назад
Am looking for videos as you
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 5 лет назад
I can put your video on a list of videos to be made in the future, but would need to see a picture of what you're trying to build. Most stairs using natural stone have some type of concrete base. You can get our email address at our website to send pictures or drawings.
@haleymalec2416
@haleymalec2416 3 года назад
What kind of building material would you suggest for a staircase going down to a lake, that would be submerged underwater for a few months of the year?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 года назад
Possibly concrete or some type of treated lumber that won't be affected by water and you might be able to find that at a local lumberyard. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TheW4lynSkk.html
@Extremebananalover
@Extremebananalover 4 года назад
Would this work for a steep hill? Are there better methods? Currently the stairs down the hill of my house are piece of rotting wood with rebar nailed through them installed by the previous owner
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
I think I would use conventional stair building methods out of concrete or lumber for steep stairways.
@lynnreid9739
@lynnreid9739 4 года назад
Do you have a video on actually building the steps. There were steps there originally that were infested with weeds because they were made with landscape ties and rebar, the ties mostly rotted and pieces of slate rock. I pulled some of that out. The step rise was also too steep. Should,I pull the whole thing out and the rebar and start again. I’m trying to do this as simple and easily as possible. It’s just steps from my garden shed, so not a very visible or seen area. I like the idea of the squares and cement. So no weed problem. Thank you.
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
No, I do not have a video and probably won't be able to advise you on whether or not you should remove and replace your stairs. However, can suggest that you consider rebuilding them if they are too steep.
@cristosmagillio1950
@cristosmagillio1950 2 года назад
How does the step fill material behave on really gentle slope vs very steep slopes? Is there better material for certain steepness?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 2 года назад
I don't think it would be much difference. The main goal would be to build it in way to reduce or eliminate material movement and on a steep slope, you might be better off building a different stairway, maybe one out of concrete or wood without any materials that could move.
@cristosmagillio1950
@cristosmagillio1950 2 года назад
@@stairbuilding my next question is would It need to be below the frost line? It is 36" in my area
@neiljennings1556
@neiljennings1556 4 года назад
if using concrete finish with a 'brush finish'
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
The reason for using a brushed finish would be to create a slip resistant texture on the surface. Great idea thanks for sharing.
@productzen
@productzen 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. Any idea what kind of stairs you would want to build on a steeper hill?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
I think I would use wood or concrete. It would need to be a secure and stable stairway, so something solid or something that would make it solid.
@patrickposey623
@patrickposey623 4 года назад
We have steps like this and we used pavers. I live in NH. Every year the pavers sink down. Any suggestions for what to use under the pavers? We mostly use stone dust. Maybe that's where we went wrong.
@marcgiosaRE
@marcgiosaRE 4 года назад
Patrick Posey you need to use 6” of 3/4 crushed stone. Compact that then use 3” of sand. Compact that to the correctable last to make the pavers level. Fill the grooves in between the pavers with sand.
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
I like Marc's idea, but I can't provide you with something that would work 100% all the time. If you don't want them to move at all, then you might need to pour concrete underneath them, but that's a lot of work. Freezing ground temperatures create a lot of problems for stairs with pavers and you might be better off repairing them every once in a while.
@lynnreid9739
@lynnreid9739 4 года назад
Thank you
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
You're welcome.
@rodlrfilmmakercreator1460
@rodlrfilmmakercreator1460 4 года назад
Very good informative video. Question, I have a flagstone 1in thick and I don't want use a box wood. Can I use bricks or something like that? If so, how can do that, how many pieces of bricks I need? Thank you
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
Yes, you can use bricks for treads and risers and bricks would work fine for filling in steps like these, but they could end up cracking or separating if there is any movement in the soil from erosion or soil settling that wasn't compacted correctly.
@rodlrfilmmakercreator1460
@rodlrfilmmakercreator1460 4 года назад
@@stairbuilding OK, if I use wood, how long can be in good condition, because will be outside under rain and hot sun?
@jackcampbell1447
@jackcampbell1447 3 месяца назад
How do you attach one box to the next ?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 месяца назад
With framing hardware, screws or nails.
@nathanbrooks8040
@nathanbrooks8040 4 года назад
I am a littel confused I leave 3.5 to 4 inches for the concreate or is that how much gravel in the bottom?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
If you're going to pour concrete into each individual step, then I would suggest having a minimum of 4 inches for the concrete. You can install gravel underneath the concrete, but it might not be necessary. Let me know if this didn't answer your question.
@syeedashaik6035
@syeedashaik6035 4 года назад
Hi that was an great explanation.I would like to know if you have any recommendations for actual building of the steps. thank you
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
No, but I will put it on my list of videos to be made in the future, if it isn't on there already. Keep in mind that it's already a long list and this video might not be made for quite some time.
@Eiffel13000
@Eiffel13000 4 года назад
I've seen other videos that suggest building "U"s rather than boxes and stacking those... Is that design problematic?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 4 года назад
I would probably need an example of what type of stairway with U's your talking about. Feel free to email me a picture of what you're referring to or trying provide me with more details.
@dwoodog
@dwoodog 3 года назад
I know what you mean by the "U" shape. Would save wood and some time. No biggie if you have less than 10 stairs, but say 20. I'd try the "U"
@lynnreid9739
@lynnreid9739 3 года назад
Thank you!
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 года назад
You're welcome!
@michaelshuler5295
@michaelshuler5295 5 лет назад
What about if you was building stairs to a decent size creek?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 5 лет назад
I'm sure you could use these methods, if that's what you're asking, if not feel free to ask another question.
@shahzadhabib6929
@shahzadhabib6929 2 года назад
How to calculate the # of steps need on slopes please?
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 2 года назад
See if this link helps. www.homebuildingandrepairs.com/stairs/landscaping/index.html
@petkuscinta9797
@petkuscinta9797 Год назад
I would fill it with cobbles stones. 40 D x 40 W x 60 H One colour or even something like a chess
@robertwenzel9936
@robertwenzel9936 3 года назад
1.5" modified + bluestone pavers on top
@mannypisani751
@mannypisani751 2 года назад
Filling those steps with concreted is the best
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 2 года назад
As long as wood doesn't rot.
@ice4142
@ice4142 3 года назад
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but if you are building steps out of wood then for the aesthetic why would you fill it with concrete? I think it should be something more natural like gravel or crushed stone.
@stairbuilding
@stairbuilding 3 года назад
And thanks for you're opinion.
@deemontague3559
@deemontague3559 2 года назад
Because massive growth of weeds, harder to maintain.
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